Can you Beat Final Fantasy 10 WITHOUT ANY HEALING?

Yes its ANOTHER Final Fantasy X Challenge video! at your request though! we've done alot of challenges for 10 now but, can we beat the game without healing?
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Man i love Yuna, but this run of Final fantasy 10-2 where we see if we can beat the whole game using only yuna was really something else, there were so many difficulties and problems its unreal, not to mention we had to "nearly" 100% the entire game!
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[@Zorothegallade-gg7zg]

FFX but it runs the American healthcare system

[@thepianomatro]

@@Zorothegallade-gg7zg massively underrated comment 🤣

[@Dark_Adonis_Vyers]

Genuinely impressive - i like going for it and just counting the heals (quote unquote fails) rather than killing the challenge outright. Between that and the fact you *probably* could try and get that RNG to get through that one fight, i consider this a huge win.

[@Primalliquid92]

yea it was hella difficult on the planning side

[@enoyna1001]

He definitely could have. There is a NI (No Items) challenge category which forces you to reset until you to get the right RNG. (I'm not saying he should have done that.)

[@Jotari]

@@enoyna1001 I think getting six consecutive dodges is going to be a hell of a lot more rng rigging than anything a no items run has. He said in the video it's a lower chance than winning the lottery.

[@PatrickMettchen]

@@enoyna1001 remember that a No Items run allows you to use the save sphere to heal. He starts the fight with 11 HP = one hit. With full life he would have done it I guess

[@enoyna1001]

@@PatrickMettchen Yes, you are correct. I forgot about that vital difference!

[@seankuchenbecker5436]

0:47 Based on yuna's overdrive gauge healer mode not counting spells like esuna, status condition cleansing moves and spells don't count for challenge as far as i'm concerned

[@Primalliquid92]

woo somebody took my side!

[@Zer0_Ph34r]

This has got to be one of the most insane challenges of a Final Fantasy game I've ever seen. Most challenge runners do challenges where they are limited in what they can do, but any action they don't take doesn't count (i.e. you could use save spheres and absorb elements to keep your health topped up). The fact that you set the rules as no heals period, and managed the whole game minus a tutorial fight with those rules is insane. Congratulations on making this work so well; also, turning a "no ****" run into a "minimum ****" run is always a great idea. Hopefully you or someone else manages to get past the first heal and prove that it's possible to complete the entire game without healing, that would be insane.

[@t.v.rockwell4504]

The fact that you only had to manually heal 1 time is impressive. I thought there'd be a few more. Great job.

[@MoogleKnightt]

This guy....is criminally underrated....Brilliant Run.

[@jarankennedy762]

Had to shout out the edits from the editor. “No noo nooo nooo YES nooo nooo nooo nooo YES” was hilarious to see. Thanks for being Bahamut fan, I’ve accepted you as one of us

[@TrueChaoSclx]

He is beauty He is grace He smacks your Valefor's face

[@nuclearcrayons3511]

FFX challenges are my favorites of all your videos.

[@Primalliquid92]

glad to hear it!

[@Yusei255]

he failed the challenge though.

[@tantacles]

If you think I missed the fact that you beat Seymour with 3 hot girls . . . you'd be wrong.

[@jupiter2815]

Hot girls really are the way to go

[@HeavenOnHigh]

i just have seen someone finishing the game 98% completely hitless there are scenarios where you can't, first is the complete intro from the BEST MUSIC IN THE GAME (intro) to the point were you team up with rikku (you can't level up until then) and the yunalesca fight, she starts Phase 2 with a raidwide AOE and zombies everyone, you can't avoid it (eons getting it are still hits) he worked around it with the rule saying "if HP% is lower after the fight, its reset" meaning, HP% armor before the fight, and swap back to normal armor after the AOE, after the fight, everyone is on max HP technically not getting hurt so yea, im pretty sure you can. gona watch it anyway :D

[@wizardgreen6154]

Eeek. Just started watching this run, no heals?! Nor MP restoring?! Dude you go freaking hardcore with these runs like they are going out of style.

[@Primalliquid92]

they eventually will haha so have to get my fair share in! and besides it gives hundreds of new ways to play these games so its a huge win!

[@wizardgreen6154]

@Primalliquid92 lies and slander!! Your challenge runs are lifesblood! Just finishing the run too, congrats on the run with one heal

[@jamesmayo9533]

It always cracked me up how in FF7, Barrett gets a limit called "Angermax" which shoots the enemy 18 times for some major damage with actual bullets. Wakka's attack reels do the same thing... with a blitzball.

[@perfectworldbeholder]

I've been listening to your challenges on loop this morning as I dig a hole and then this conveniently pops up, you have good timing

[@Primalliquid92]

im just secretly spying on you, dont worry about it

[@TheBurningHeart4927]

I just got home from digging a hole to find this video

[@ThundagaT2]

You can put Wendigo to sleep, so that boss will never be a problem in any run unless you either cant use status ailments, or cant use Sleep Attack or Sleep Powder for whatever reason

[@Primalliquid92]

huh ive never actually tried sleep in that fight, i always go for dark!, learn something new every day

[@Azshiris]

Seriously impressive work getting through with just 1 save. I like the idea of pushing ahead to see what the minimum is with respect to the challenge. Kind of like Mythbusters looking at what it would actually take to replicate a myth when it's busted.

[@ThatColorBlue]

Love your videos! My favorite was how overpowered can you get early in FF12, that one was wild. All your extremely hard work is appreciated!

[@finalfantasy33x]

I thought no sphere grid was crazy but man this is different. gotta try one day

[@lucasthurman7382]

It takes you 4 attempts at the chocobo race, but it takes me like 4 hours 😂😂

[@Primalliquid92]

just lots of practice

[@SBaby]

The minigames in this game were really annoying, but the worst one in my opinion was dodging the lightning bolts. It is one of the worst things in the game, and also one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a video game, right up there with the 12 hour game time limit for getting Excalibur 2 in FFIX (but in that case, that was hardcoded by someone who was fed up with Square and did it to get back at them). I have no idea what dodging lightning bolts would even have to do with unlocking the true power of an ultimate weapon. I'd think that you would actually HAVE to get hit to power it up. Zhane had to get hit in Power Rangers in Space to power up his morpher. So it isn't really all that weird. Plus, if I was making the game, I'd give an automatic Game Over for getting struck by lightning in that area, in order to scare the player away from getting hit, but then once you get Lulu's weapon, only THEN do you go back and deliberately get hit to power it up. I think that would have been just as good, because few people would guess to do it.

[@thpl2141]

@@SBaby the fact that Excalibur II was hardcoded is super interesting. I’d like to read up on that. Can you give me a hint on what to google? I can‘t find anything about that.

[@SBaby]

@@thpl2141 I don't remember where I saw it (this was early 2000s internet), but the fact that it's on a separate timer from the in-game clock is why there isn't a Gameshark or Codebreaker code out there that can reliably override the time limit. Codes that claim to do this only end up freezing the in-game timer, but not that timer for the sword.

[@user-uh3mp8ry4z]

It took me 4 nervous breakdowns -_-

[@Ternalin]

I like how you turned Yuna into a thief on this run, I dunno why I find that funny with her personality. I imagine her telling the monsters "I'm sorry" while she steals stuff from them.

[@TheDragonhawkKnights]

Hey primal, you should have bought some capture weapons because when you capture all the mobs in calm lands you get the chest with yuna's celestial weapons, and since you get the moon crest at the beginning you can have her weapon upgraded once BEFORE Seymour on the mountain which means your valefor can then hit for 85,000 damage and one shot that fight...... Capture weapons are the silent heavy lifter. When I do my playthrough I'll be doing that and show how op you are with it! Love your vids bud, hope you're well!

[@rustybreville95]

You can access the airship without using a save sphere, just head back to Kilika from wherever you are and take the right hand branching path from where you get off the boat

[@OneWithoutClues]

@@rustybreville95 I thought the exact same thing as well, but after giving it two attempts, once with the airship parked at Besaid (because it was a close area and I didn’t want to have to run all the way back from the Calm Lands) and once with it parked in Kilika itself, neither would let me. There’s an invisible wall in the way that prevents you even though it totally looks like it should work.

[@carltaylor2975]

I'm gonna guess you'll have to heal 13 times. I have no idea if that's way too much or way too little, but if I tried this I think I would be well above that lol. By the way, I absolutely LOVE your videos man. And I love this long form content. Every time one of your videos come out I always get excited.

[@Harmerock_YT]

These are my type of videos before going to sleep. Awesome as always. Can't wait til the next ff challenge

[@Delsus89]

Quick someone made a mod that's only cloisters to mess with Primal

[@niXonc0x]

Thanks, that made me laugh like a crazy person in public 😅

[@moopert86]

Great idea... I would do it if I knew the first thing about modding

[@craigsands2567]

I wish I could do that but I'm too dumb to make mods

[@mesothelimoa341]

The entire game is filled with increasingly complex orb puzzles on every screen. With random encounters.

[@Delsus89]

@@mesothelimoa341 it wouldn't even need random encounters, even reskins of Bevelle trials would work

[@flareinc7413]

Knew you were epic,didn't know you were this epic! Well done

[@junde3073]

That is legitimately one of the most impressive runs of FFX I've ever seen. We'll done man. I can't believe you managed that.

[@cedric7751]

Bahamut can one shot Seimour (and most bosses after) if Yuna has enough strength stat. I believe you need 70str to guarantee a 1 shot on every boss with less than 99.999hp, you can check speedrunning guides for the exact value. Doing this would make this challenge quite boring tho

[@XeonesLinqos]

I remember when this game first came out loved it Imma go play it again.

[@WandererEris]

"Grind a little so that I'm strong but not overpowered." Proceeds to destroy game with many enemies getting no turns at all.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

That happens naturally anyway. Most standard battles are meant to be beaten by one turn of specific party members each.

[@undyingsoul3949]

He definitely got himself overpowered. Even I who still play the game blind without any forced grinding feel overpowered. I'm past Seymour Flux without a single Game Over yet.

[@mrman6035]

like it's shown in the video but gil throw giving you 9999 damage for 100k means you can pretty much one shot every enemy until they get phases or upgrading Yuna's strength for Bahamut to do over 10k early

[@feircy]

The 0 second chocobo race is one of those things that every tike I do it I tell myself "never again" 😂

[@TheRealKamizura]

probably one of the most insane challenge runs you've done.. it was so unfortunate to see that you had to heal at baaj temple to even stand a chance at the fight. i really enjoyed seeing how you'd defeat each boss, i can also only imagine how many game overs you got from random encounters.

[@Primalliquid92]

yea abusing auto saves and hoping for no ambushes slowed me down so much, once i got to guadosalam though and could get first strike it wasnt to bad on the random encounter front

[@JATGPisGOD]

"oh ne hes up to shenanigans again" *microwaves popcorn*

[@virtualbunksie5117]

3 weeks late, seen the thumbnail, my initial rhought, " Oooooooh " Hearing i may try the dark aeons, My sexond thought " Oooooooh lala "

[@Taislinmaosdela]

Best challenge channel on KZbin! Outside of inane RNG farming, I consider this run a success. It can effectively be done, it just would be more worth it to go and play the lottery instead!

[@ollyrowe5445]

Cool video and I like how the answer to the title is actually no, so many of these challenge vids you see just end up being an obvious yes 😂

[@jamesmayo9533]

Im one who would argue that curing status ailments and healing hp are two different things.

[@tylerbrown9631]

I like the counter and minimum heal goal as a result of failing the original challenge. I predict 3 heals before Besaid, and 3 after.

[@EJmaw]

I’m loving your editor’s hijacks. Can’t help but to root for BahaChan. Amazing vid bro as always

[@steffencolberg400]

The ff10 challenges are always great to watch.

[@orangetuxedoman]

Feedback: I like this new approach as a challenge fail compromise, I look forward to these videos, the incredible amount of sheer thinking you do for these is wow! And even when I know the outcome like the recent FFIV run, seeing how far you're willing to take it is always fun, and I find your videos genuinely entertaining. I don't have any specific challenge suggestions, but I'd like to see a XII or XIII challenge in the future.

[@Primalliquid92]

Glad you like them!

[@Br0oham]

Whenever you use Yojimbo, I highly recommend always paying 8,192 gil, as that gives the highest effective chance for Zanmato at all times for gil spent

[@doyistdoy]

Hey yo! Just found the channel. FF games were my jam growing up. Banger videos mate, good job!

[@metalsonic8888]

So this challenge quickly devolves into cheese strats if you really want to go after even endgame bosses. As shown in the video, infinite gil is easily achievable even in the early game. Between the time when you have access to Spare Change and when you can get the Wings to Discovery at Remiem Temple every boss goes down to 2 max damage hits of Spare Change except Evrae and Seymour Natus who take 3. With 3 First Strike weapons, fairly trivial to obtain through Blitzball, this means that every boss during this period can be defeated damageless. Isaru's Aeons obviously are an exception to this, but this very video shows that isn't a problem and that they can be beaten damageless as well. Once you have access to Trio of 9999, you can use that and Attack Reels to defeat Defender X, and then do that again on Yojimbo. Now with your full health and infinite wealth, Yojimbo can Zanmato every boss in the game that Yuna can fight. I believe the only boss fights where this won't work are Biran and Yenke, each of whom should go down to a single Spare Change apiece (unless you have purposefully grinded Kimarhi's HP to 7500 or higher before fighting them, and as shown in the video it is perfectly reasonable to expect to get 2 turns to murder them before they can even act), and Shinryu in the Monster Arena since the fight is underwater. As long as you don't activate any HP spheres your health will stay at max and you can freely use the airship to explore Omega Ruins and capture monsters and get all the Celestial Weapons and whatever else you feel like doing. You could even grind up everyone's stats with Clear Spheres and Monster Arena sphere prizes to max out all their non-HP stats and make facing Shinryu without Yuna a feasible goal. Really the early game is the only part where this challenge is difficult, and unfortunately likely even impossible because of the tutorial at the start.

[@TepidCritic]

How. Literally how. What an absolute pro holy smokes

[@aironnocturnal5365]

Wow, I had no idea you could just use a petrify grenade to take out the guado guardians, TIL!

[@Primalliquid92]

theres always new things to pick up!

[@Bory-k1m]

Genuine impressed congrats

[@moopert86]

Calling you out.... Based on formula for evasion of enemy attacks, Tidus should have a 20% chance to dodge Klik's attack. .2 to the 7th power equals out to 128 in 10,000,000 or 1.28 in 100,000. Even if the formula has some wiggle room and it's only got a 10% chance to evade the attack, that still works out to 1 in 10,000,000. This is extremely unlikely to happen yes, but still much better chance than hitting the lottery. Euro Millions is 1 in 139,000,000 while the US Powerbball is 1 in 292,000,000 and US mega millions is 1 in 302,000,000.

[@Primalliquid92]

regular lottery in the uk i think is 1 in 26 million, so yea ok still less likely to win, but hey not super far off

[@dVaan]

18:48 Why is Tidus staring right into my soul?

[@zakatalmosen5984]

I remember as a kid I got stuck like 3 separate times (as in, having to restart the game because I was ignorant of certain aspects of gameplay). The last time I got so sick I grinded all the way to hell and back in Besaid. When I got to the Oblitzerator with thundara (yeah really) and found out it didn't work on the crane I remember feeling like I had transcended the limits of what the developers expected a stable and well adjusted human being to do. Btw as an aside, the reason why I kept getting stuck was because I only leveled strength, magic power and HP since I thought the other stats were a waste of time. I also almost exclusively used aeons since I was afraid of seeing my characters die. You've no idea how cursed a 8yo's sphere grid can be and for how many hours they can watch the Valefor cutscene before realizing short mode is a thing.

[@SquallLionhart409]

Regarding Sinspawn farming on the boat, you don't actually need haste. The first Sinspawn to act will always charge for Spines, so you can pretty easily get in to a sequence where you kill all but 1, it charges, you get 3 kills (the one charging and 2 new ones), leaving one alive, it charges, etc. Cheer is required for Kimahri (and realistically Tidus/Wakka) to oneshot, but not haste. Regarding needing First Strike on Tidus to avoid the misery of random ambushes forcing a reset, O'aka sells an Initiative weapon for Auron right before Sinspawn Gui, meaning Tidus just needs to be able to outspeed (which I'm certain he will based on the number of levels gained from the boat) to always be able to Flee.

[@Primalliquid92]

so specificly for the sinspawn, without haste there is a very very low chance that the sinspawn will be able to land a hit, granted its only like 1 every half an hour but haste means you can automate the grind and never have to worry about ever taking damage during it. as for the initiave weapon, i did get that but didnt think to use him with tidus

[@MrTylerWpg]

I like Daph's idea of a Baha solo run. Maybe whenever her birthday is as a treat if there's a mod to do that?

[@TJM052291]

Bro you never fail to amaze me with your challenges! Definitely always worth the wait.

[@Primalliquid92]

glad you enjoy them so much!

[@dorping_Wolf]

technically , being ko at 0hp. and being revived to 1 hp is an health increase that could have been prevented :)

[@YamiOnYouTube]

Great new video brother 💪🏼

[@pepperplz783]

This is amazing. One heal? At a tutorial fight? I’m sure you could have gamed the RNG or tweaked it, but either way, count it as a win!!

[@millieplaint4087]

Oh this should be a good one! Just starting. I tried the items only run but didn't have the patience to get through the initial grind lol

[@Primalliquid92]

items only can be a little brutal early on yea

[@millieplaint4087]

@@Primalliquid92 ya and I was playing my PS3 version so no speed boost. I think I got about 20ish hrs in before I just burned out 😅

[@Primalliquid92]

ouch yea the boosters are a god send for the speed up and a battle every other step

[@munchausen34]

Hey man greetings from Argentina! I really like your content and your voice for the videos! Keep up the good work!

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

If a character in active party has initiative you will never get ambushed except from great malboro in omega ruins and yojimbo dark aeon

[@leightonz9245]

I'm gonna say 6 heals are needed, as I've done something like this already! I'm watching to see how you faired on this challenge also!

[@tcrobot]

This'll be interesting 😁 Fantastic segway into the ko-fi plug btw.

[@Primalliquid92]

Haha hopefully it gave a good chuckle

[@moopert86]

Fun fact: You can just run away from the Zu in Bikanel. It doesn't matter as you did it with no damage, but as I learned in Ultimate Hardcore, you can just bugger off.

[@jamesworkshop9181]

Alt method for wendigo is to hit it with sleep powder then avoid physical hits

[@flamingmoomba5608]

Oh damn, i learned a new Blitzball hack. I've been struggling through resets to get the win for years 🤣😂😭😭

[@Terins917]

Still waiting for a Suikiden V 100%. I wasn't able to 100% after 7 NG+ Playthroughs

[@weevie_stilfat]

For blitzball, zalitz is so underrated. Dude for the first 60 levels is the best midfielder

[@xtreme3353]

Getting tidus's crest is the 1 biggest reason I don't like doing a new game.

[@ParanoeX]

so... the answer to the question: lol nope. always a fun answer to a video with such a question. but hmm, i'll say... 10 heals (so i wont be disappointed)

[@JonSmith-us1ss]

I believe you can play blitzball without using a save sphere by interacting in the aurochs changing room

[@pulsefel9210]

i knew a minimum counter would kinda be needed since using a save sphere is the only way to go back to the airship, and unless you plan to hoof it everywhere after landing once its kinda needed.

[@Primalliquid92]

thats actually what i thought aswell, turns out though that if you stick strictly to the story you dont need to interact with the save sphere for the required airship travels

[@QuintBlitz]

7:40 , I'll say around 30 times. There are many enemies that cast magic before you get -proof armors, and magic can't be avoided(?).

[@charliecaine9270]

Stay away from the summoner

[@dayriderBusking]

Too late now, but if an Aeon dies, it will regenerate after a set amount of battles (you can see this on the Aeon screen in the menu). Think justified ingame as the fayth regrouping/regenerating.

[@Primalliquid92]

i know but that felt a little to cheap to use to my advantage

[@Nevercomestoday]

“We’re not going to play around with semantics here” [immediately gets into semantics over healing HP vs. status effects] Jk jk, Great video and I love your channel! ❤

[@pulsefel9210]

ok im saving this just for the chocobo race maps. those will be handy!

[@ajevans8814]

I love this challenge idea. I'm looking forward to giving this challenge a try

[@Primalliquid92]

absolutely should!

[@ajevans8814]

@@Primalliquid92 I think I can do it, but I will need more heals as I don't think I can devote an 8 hour run on the kilika boat. Out of curiosity, was that 8 hours done in real time or was it using a speed up booster?

[@matthewlinguist]

Commenting before I see the end. Much hype though. FFX is my favorite

[@Ranemoraken]

Heh, I missed the clue, I guess. Good run. I'm slightly surprised you didn't go back to that silly billy in the tutorial fight out of curiosity.

[@moopert86]

It's not as bad as he says with better odds of winning the lottery, but still so low chance of it happening as to be impossible in practice.

[@BlitzballMania]

I'm a huge fan of FFX and challenge runs of it i'll have to try this out myself.

[@Primalliquid92]

good luck!

[@masterbud89]

When will you be doing the masters Run? would be cool to see you give it a go.

[@daddysnake5250]

Funny enough, i did a run with heavy grinding early, wanting to breeze through till the monster arena so i could beat Nemesis and Penance eventually, so i had thundara in Luca. Hasted Lulu got two gos a round and thundara did between 1200 and 1500 dmg, so it was quicker to just blast the boss down rather than using the crane at all. made me giggle when i did it like "hey Lulu, there is a crane you can...nvm it's dead'

[@ClLouID]

I think 4 heals, lets see where this ends - hopefully not 1!

[@user-uk2cy6yj1k]

Ive done no healing runs. Just use expert sphere grid. Take yuna down aurons path. Have OP aeons. One shot everything. Ofc post game is different but for the story its essy

[@fluffsquad8658]

Any thoughts on more character specific runs? Like only Yuna or Lulu?

[@kinsan89]

Fun fact: my first ever playthrough of FFX, I got the 0.0.0 chocobo race time on my SECOND ever attempt On my second playthrough, I spent over 10 hours of attempts

[@AngelOnerom]

It felt kinda cheesy to just Trio of 9999 pretty much all endgame, but I guess it's understandable with such a huge portion of the game providing no story heals.

[@Soumein]

Hey woah woah woah. It's been a long time since I played FFX, but I most definitely do not remember a Sinspawn fight on the Kilika boat ride (14:57). Was that added in the remasters or PAL versions, similar to the Dark Aeons, or am I horribly misremembering?

[@avocadocommando5215]

Do you use Expert Grid or Standard Grid for these challenges or in general?

[@wtfukme]

In bevelle why not use your grid spheres and just skip the HP nodes? You can complete the grid there and had a much easier later half with insane stats.

[@saw31489]

Not first... but second and here! Ngl could have sworn there were more story heals. Wow

[@xS3T0x]

Hello not first but second... hope your day/night is going well, let's enjoy a solid vid 😊

[@seanmurphy4077]

This was an amazing run!

[@Puremindgames]

You know, outside of the 'is this really a thing' look, I don't think I've ever used the 'hide behind the keeper bug' in Blitzball before, I just enjoy it too much, not enough to recruit good players, but enough to git gud, with the Aurochs.

[@moopert86]

Same, I just passed between my 2 defenders so they actually get experience instead of just the shooters.

[@Brian2]

Oh, idea! Doing challenges with a known mod. Nothing super grindy like PBird but more like New Threat - can you beat it with Aerith only. Or a random mod on any of them - can you beat it with just items? Technically as it is random someone somewhere could but can I? Etc.

[@Primalliquid92]

i do wanna bring some mod ideas into it eventually for sure

[@Jotari]

Does reviving your Aeons by fighting battles count (aka that one mechanic that no one has ever used ever since the number of battles required is so high you'll inevitable reach a save sphere earlier)?

[@charliecaine9270]

Will u an ff6 challenge soon not seen you do many of them

[@niXonc0x]

Yes

[@niXonc0x]

This

[@mattmajor6445]

Just commenting to help cos this nutter deserves

[@Anime-Doom]

Another great video and it made me wonder. In each Final Fantasy game are you able to beat them without ever actually taking damage and if not what's the fewest number of instances of damage/lowest amount that you are forced to take? Also, I agree with Daph, we NEED a Bahamut challenge, perhaps once she gets hired full-time you could reward/torment her with an overload of dragon goodness/cruelty.

[@undyingsoul3949]

I'm still in blind, but even I can tell you how crazy well you can avoid taking damage altogether. Zero times is impossible when I only think of Demi and that Geo beast, but someone really needs to test the counter for this sometime. Great idea for a challenge! 👏

[@shadowcloud1994]

Watching this literally one day after I watched someone's "Can you beat FFX without taking damage?" so yeah I have a guess.

[@Primalliquid92]

somebody did a run like that? i really dont see how taking no damage is possible, the run would fail in the tutorial, in besaid and very likely to some of the counter attacks

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

Should have zombied Yu Yevon and then killed with Phoenix Down. Since he is zombied, it wouldn't count as a heal or break the rules, and ending with a Phoenix Down would have been a fitting end to a no heal run

[@Hello_There57]

Yes Can you beat smt4 without healing?