Can You Beat Final Fantasy 5 Using Only Monks?

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[@XynoYaBoi]

The great Gilgamesh, a Dragoon? What's next, he'll have to use a pot of gold for some extra luck?

[@sertiana2512]

A slight correction, Chakra *does* scale. It uses the same formula as other healing skills/spells. But Monk's Magic stat is so abysmal you wouldn't see much increase of their healing power.

[@DiogoJ1]

Yeah. For a Monk only run, that's a bad skill. In a normal run, something like Mystic Knight might make good use of it, at least until Drain Sword is available.

[@sertiana2512]

​@DiogoJ1 Mystic Knight only offers +1 to their Magic stat. At least it's still better than Monk's -23 penalty to it though.

[@cashnelson2306]

Starting with the best job? Alright king

[@EvilPichu]

Found this video randomly in my feed, loved it & subbed🎉🎉🎉 cannot wait for other job runs. I played FF5 PR beginning of the year on 100% on PS5 and it was so much fun 😁 lots of greetings from Germany!

[@ry2950]

Love this video. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Earned a subscription. Great job with the creative editing and commentary.

[@dextervepps8794]

I recently started working my way through the Pixel Remasters, I finished 5 for the first time last week. Wow, did I miss a ton of optional content. When the ship got pulled into the final dungeon, I didn't even try to leave. Gonna have to replay it when I finish 6.

[@soichironagi9993]

You earned a subscriber just for the Parappa The Rapper reference, And, yeah, the challenge and the video editing too. XD

[@daddysnake5250]

a fellow tuber of culture

[@SamuriX2010]

Hey man, great video, great editing, great audio mixing. Aubbed and I cant wait for the rest of this series

[@cocomunga]

I’ve done 4 Bards, Blue Mages, Thieves, Berserkers. Berserker was grueling, requiring level 45 for Sandworm and level 96 to beat Exdeath. Bard is really hard in world 1, especially the Adamantoise, then it’s easy. Thief can just steal Elixers and High Potions. I’d love to see another video with Bard and Berserker! Edit: I actually beat Omniscient with Berserkers. I think I had two with mage mashers to silence and another with…I think the chicken knife? I left the game on while I went to work. At some point, they beat him. I had tried 3 Mage Mashers for 8 hours and they were not able to win. One Berserker fights the Minotaur.

[@Skajaw]

Great video so far, nice commentary! What I do miss though is background music. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@Kozanik]

Wes, I remember when you said that it can be super disappointing to have a video you spend hours on (or days, with the pokemon one) not be received too well. That said, I'm glad this one is performing so well as you kindly remind us that you're not a Dark Souls youtuber. Keep up the brilliant work. I'll put FF5 on my list of games to check out before I die of old age.

[@MrKeyblademaster1992]

We could call this one the "One-Punch Man" challenge

[@thatstarlad1606]

Loved these ever since the dead rising ones way back in the day!

[@MatthewKerr-wv8py]

Loved the one punchman reference haha

[@ThePageofRage]

I think the answer to this series is simple. Berserker: No. Every other class: Yes.

[@BacklogBuster]

Well you'd be wrong there bucko.

[@ThePageofRage]

@@BacklogBuster Oh! Oh.

[@drastic6411]

I loved the video! FF is one of the best series' out there but the early games never get any love so I appreciate the walk down memory lane!

[@BacklogBuster]

Thats pretty funny because I feel like its only the early FFs that get any love. I hear nothing but awful things from 13 onwards.

[@Jikkuryuu]

I've done Four Job Fiesta runs with multiple Berserkers and yeah, Byblos is a grind-wall for damage-dealers. So is Liquid Flame, for Berserkers anyway, so I often come out of the fire-powered ship around level 19 :/ I think !Chakra is based on your Stamina stat? And since stats don't increase in FF5 and Monk has the best Stamina in the game anyway, it'll never scale. I'm sure you know what's what, but I always take advantage of Butz's hometown discount to buy a fat stack of tents. Not as strong as cottages, but 1000hp and 100mp per tent isn't bad for the price. Weird, my brain was sure there was a Kaiser Knuckles in the pyramid. Turns out they're a drop from a monster-in-a-box only encounter. Not really something you can farm in this challenge run. The choice between Kaiser Knuckles and Hermes' Sandals is one of the meanest things FF5 ever does. I've run Omniscient out of MP once, but only with an emulators turbo-speed. I'm not recommending it, because single-class challenges are already grindy enough. Just pointing out that there's an enemy in the Wind Shrine that drops elixirs. Sorry for any/everything you already know and just didn't mention. Thanks for making this thing happen, it's not an easy run!

[@etuheu]

Wes doggy dogg needs to get 22 jobby jobs

[@matttrent946]

"despite Leena getting sucked to death" 🤣🤣🤣

[@braveherogreenleaf6256]

Parappa reference earned a sub.

[@dextervepps8794]

Was not expecting the PaRappa reference. Nice

[@medicami]

puncc kicc its all in the mind

[@crossjmail]

Parrappa the rapper!

[@mauriciomadridprado2050]

OH MY GOD!!!!!! PARAPPA THE RAPPER!!!!!!!

[@walrusmayonaisesandw]

imagine the power of high level monks with kaiser knuckles and rapid fire from archer. :D perhaps that setup on "bare" is good because of all the stacked stat buff's from mastered jobs.

[@veghesther3204]

About that I'm sure Rapid fire doesn't work BAREFISTED IE useless on the Monk job and Rods/Staffs it won't work either.

[@BacklogBuster]

Rapid Fire absolutely works bare fisted. Its just the attack command 4x with randomized targeting.

[@walrusmayonaisesandw]

@@BacklogBuster true if you half your damage by accidentally attacking back row enemies its all good. when they are dead from the damage the front row enemies fall really fast. I noticed the power of this strat when comparing the damage output to duel-wielding and rapidfiring the maxed out brave blade and ragnarok which is the strongest swords. in short monk is essentially for being the DPS king.

[@SleepyOmel]

I can't wait untill you do Dragoon's or Samurai's only, I think that'll be fun

[@deazee2288]

My brainless child self never used this class because it had no cool weapons or magic that comes with it This was nostalgic

[@marcosdheleno]

its funny because ever since i first played, monk has been one of my favorite classes in final fantasy v(and later, tactics). it gets some really fun support abilities. bare handed on a caster is probably one of the most usefull abilities for them, as it lets them deal some damage without the need for investing much. and chakra is very good on classes that do have some amount of magic in them. hp+30% is ALWAYS amazing as well.

[@bobsmith8510]

He finally do it

[@derekminna]

FF5 is my favorite game. Slay the Spire is near the top as well.

[@fluffyycactus2396]

i like the way you say monk

[@toddb7947]

Any chance you'll do the Four Job Fiesta next month?

[@BacklogBuster]

Im kind of over it, for various reasons. I'm more interested in focusing on the individual job challenges. I'll probably post a few over that timeframe thouugh.

[@ClintonKE]

kaiser knuckles really should have been a weapon. Really would have helped out the monk's late game some. Also unfair they don't get a legendary weapon because of it.

[@BacklogBuster]

Yup, especially coming off FF4 with Yangs claws. Heck, even Nunchucks from FF1 would've worked too.

[@nekochiyu5060]

For future runs, could you use the elemental rods as attack items for the mage tower boss? They cast 3rd tier magic. I don't think you have to equip them either, but they do break after being used that way

[@BacklogBuster]

At least in the pixel remaster Omnicient counters smashed rods with return iirc.

[@veghesther3204]

Sadly if as Job class can't equip rods normally the game itself won't allow YOU to break any so no for Monks you can't break the rods against the magic side boss and even on the PS1 version IT would still COUNTER it WITH return.

[@ShinMajin]

Oh hell yes, FFV!

[@Qvmmy]

nice concept, would have better with if you unlock other classes passives

[@BacklogBuster]

Yeah but then its not a single job challenge, you're just playing the game casually.

[@Qvmmy]

@@BacklogBuster fundamentally you still beat important part of the game in that regard tho you know the best

[@joeshadowman]

I feel like this is the one FF that no one talks about. Idk how to feel about that.

[@DS342]

Surprised to see nobody pointed out that the solution for Omniscient is Bone Mail. A character wearing a Reflect Ring and Bone Mail is completely immune to omniscient and will kill him with his own reversed drains well before his MP runs out. Nearly any class can do it,this boss is free outside of robe-only classes.

[@BacklogBuster]

Reflect and Regen are in Omnicients magic rotation. He'll hit himself, and your party with regen eventually. I've done Omnicient like 3 or 4 times running himself out of MP. He never comes close to taking himself out.

[@DS342]

@@BacklogBuster Regen may have slipped my mind,so it's not pure immunity,but it's been my experience that it never stands up to the healing you get from the drain reversal. The one-man Reflect Mail is my go-to strategy for running this in Four Job Fiesta without magic,but the correct strategy is whichever one that gets you there in the end.

[@kbowman772]

So, how will you handle Blue Mage only given how many of their best spells require Control from a Beastmaster?

[@BacklogBuster]

Not that many require control. You cant even get Big Guard until world 3 post-Pyramid so most of the game you're going without. It'll be fine.

[@veghesther3204]

But WHITE WIND the ONLY way to heal the entire party NO monster uses IT on their own so control IS a must for that one.

[@kbowman772]

@@BacklogBuster White Wind is a World 1 spell that requires control.

[@BacklogBuster]

I know, but most jobs dont get access to healing anyways. Blue Mage has some alternative way s to heal.

[@veghesther3204]

Without WHITE wind the ONLY way to heal is still costly spend 200,000 on 4 Flame rings Fire rod the entire 4x Blue mages and ATTACK yourself with it but White Wind would still restore MORE HP without having to use 4x Fire ring users. Vampire can't really heal for area's FULL of undead enemies since you can't drain undead targets of their own HP.

[@Psconners]

Instead of black mages with Omniscient, could you spam Magic Lamp?

[@BacklogBuster]

Im like 99% sure he uses return after using the lamp. Most melee jobs also have a terrible magic stat so even if it worked, you probably wouldnt kill him before you're out of lamp charges,

[@AxelRyman]

Honestly love FFV since it's so open for Challenge Run options. Best part of the job system? All jobs can complete the game, granted at varying level of difficulties. Even with only 1 character being used. Well...except for 1 job.

[@BacklogBuster]

Mhmm. Berserker is long but doable. The worst one is going to be white mage only I just know it. Right up until the Fork Tower, but until then its nightmare fuel.

[@veghesther3204]

I thought 4x Berserkers is impossible even AT LV 99.

[@AxelRyman]

@@veghesther3204 Nope it's possible, just very rng heavy. Can be done on every version of the game.

[@leargamma4912]

Some dude beat the game with a single level 99 beserker​@@veghesther3204

[@FlanMesh]

Zan - te - tsu - ken

[@BacklogBuster]

wee-a-booooooooo

[@FlanMesh]

Oh so you can spell

[@masterjoda999]

Could also use chemist to inflict berserk on Omniscient to stop him casting return, could you not?

[@BacklogBuster]

You really dont want to be Berserking Omnicnent. He's a muscle wizard.

[@veghesther3204]

That I'm not sure it may end up using return similar to how FF6's Magic Master Boss KILLS you with Ultima upon ITS DEATH which triggers in FF6 even if you berserk that boss as well.

[@redclover5460]

I did inflict Berserk on Omniscient to make him stop using magic (my red mage hit him with the Power Staff), but I can't remember if it stopped him from casting Return in response to my geomancer's attacks. By way of explanation: I was trying a challenge run with a deliberately weak team, consisting of a monk, red mage, geomancer, and dancer. The monk and dancer, Bartz and Faris, did the physical side of Fork Tower, leaving the other two on the magic side. I was very disappointed that !Terrain classifies as a physical move; Krile was pretty much useless there.

[@honella7146]

Can ypu finish FF4 with only pigs? Please!

[@marcosdheleno]

you know a cool idea would be to be 1 job, BUT, you can level another job for its ability.

[@BacklogBuster]

Kind of against the spirit of the challenge. Most jobs are made way more powerful with a supplemental ability from another job, its kind of the nature of the whole job system.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@BacklogBuster but that's the idea. how powerfull can each job get, when it has everything it need. as a side note, i wish ff5 had ng+ so we could replay the game with the jobs unlocked and leveled from the start.

[@Silvitewolf]

might be worth modding the game so later jobs open sooner otherwise a few videos are going to be half freelancer imo

[@BacklogBuster]

I prefer to play without mods. Earth Crystal jobs are far away but that means I can try some other interesting stuff Freelancer only.

[@veghesther3204]

Yes but the Magic side of the Forking tower can't BUT its NOT a required dungeon too bad in FF5 the class is PURE CRAP and is the ONLY ONE NOT worth mastering when using 4x Free Lancers/Mimes with every OTHER job mastered. I also didn't HAVE 2 reflect rings to use for the MAGIC side boss.

[@stickyrick1939]

wheres the leprechaun job?

[@BacklogBuster]

Trapped behind running Omnicient out of MP.

[@NemesisMKIII]

Your save data says you did this 2 years ago?

[@BacklogBuster]

Yeah and?

[@NemesisMKIII]

@@BacklogBuster I was just curious if you shot this content two years ago. Like maybe over the course of two years you completed the challenge and now are just posting them back to back?

[@BacklogBuster]

Yes thats whats happening. I didn't think they'd be good videos so I put them on the backburner.

[@jesseiles3414]

25 jobs, 3 more on the gba

[@BacklogBuster]

You wont catch me playing the Advance version in THIS lifetime bucko.

[@veghesther3204]

That and they only unlock AFTER you UNSEAL all 12 weapons so that you can ONLY use them In the final dungeon Necromancer SUCKS in the GBA version since its POST game only.

[@sozaj]

I don't know... but Final Fantasy Tactics can beat YOU using only monks!

[@BacklogBuster]

Nah I'd win. In fact, I did win. I have the footage for it and everything. Monks in FFT are carried by Punch Art being super good.

[@sozaj]

@@BacklogBuster nice! I had recently seen a video of difficult random battles in the series which included the 11 monks battle and, having seen the title of this video, thought that the opportunity to say that was too funny to pass up. :)

[@Kiaxiou]

Omg grog hills monk sucks

[@marcosdheleno]

dont forget, bare hand mages is great. as it give them a solid damage option. specially for white mages.

[@wjamesmci]

My first thought for onmisecent is "magic lamp spam?" But i guess the damage tapers off massively when it just summons chocobo after a bit

[@BacklogBuster]

iirc Omnicient counters magic lamp with return. Im sure I tried it.