Can you beat outer wilds without starting the loop?

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[@HackedUpForBarbeque]

The comedy was all miss

[@rattmanthestupid]

Well, that sucks. I hope you find some content you enjoy more than mine. Bye now.

[@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529]

@@rattmanthestupid and THATS how you deal with assholes. Bravo. Also your comedy is great,

[@BushFries]

@@rattmanthestupid bye!

[@rattmanthestupid]

I wouldn't call the commenter an asshole necessarily. He just has a different sense of humor than my own. I mean, going back to this video I find that the jokes are a bit too repetitive imo and that's something I've tried working on in my more recent videos. But, plenty of people have found this video funny and interesting so it doesn't really matter what I or anyone else thinks as long as someone enjoys it.

[@HackedUpForBarbeque]

@rattmanthestupid I'll be the first to admit my comment was less 'constructive' and more 'criticism'. But you're doing something I never could, so yeah.

[@testedhawk]

There's two ends of the Outer Wilds KZbinr spectrum There's The Lore Explorer being Lawful Good on one side Then Rattman the Stupid being Chaotic Evil on the polar opposite side

[@rattmanthestupid]

The Lore Explorer is the homie frfr. He's the reason I even thought of doing these challenges (him and mitten squad of course).

[@testedhawk]

@@rattmanthestupid Keep it up my guy, you got the Charisma for it

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

Are you familiar with Nerbit? You might like his content. @@rattmanthestupid

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@hllyenaylleth9576 I have not, but I will be checking out their content. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@Baphelon]

"Ratfuck the Orgasm Denier" made me laugh way harder than it should have lmfao

[@LorgeDelta]

I'm so glad I randomly found this absolute treasure of a video.

[@rattmanthestupid]

glad you enjoyed the video. I have another "can you beat outer wilds" video and one for Call Of Duty World ay War if you want some more of this.

[@SkunkfapGaming]

Glad I wasn't the only one who forgot the signal scope was also a telescope. I spent like 5 minutes trying different ways of getting to those damn drums

[@Gordon_Freeman484]

The Lore Explorer is shivering in fear. It literally isnt possible to beat Outer Wilds without starting the loop, yet this guy did it anyways.

[@rattmanthestupid]

I still half failed. Although, I know of a way that is theoretically possible without needing to cheat. It would just take an absurdly stupid amount of time.

[@Dacronhai]

@@rattmanthestupidnow I'm curious

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@Dacronhai go fast through planet Zoom zoom

[@SethbotStar]

Part of the point of the video is that he literally didn't. He says it isn't possible at least twice.

[@sloppyjoe148]

I actually couldn’t finish the video because of how shit the jokes were

[@rattmanthestupid]

you just mad that you get pussy and I don't

[@elliottday5014]

@@rattmanthestupidlmao

[@adam-hx5vl]

can't believe this is the video that introduced me to outer wilds, it had gotten recommended to me and i watched only like 10 seconds of it (not overexaggerating) and i looked it up, bought the game despite knowing nothing about it (pretty compulsive, i know), finished it + the dlc and the video got recommended to me again and it's probably one of the best games i've ever played good video dude, i love the sarcasm, it's rare in this maybe-too-serious-at-times community outer wilds has

[@rattmanthestupid]

I'm happy that you played Outer Wilds! It's possibly my favorite game ever so anytime I'm able to get someone else to play it as an absolute win for me. I glad you enjoyed my video as well.

[@Alkaide]

this video was personal 💀

[@arce5473]

Thanks for sharing your emotions, my wife also cheated but at least we can cheat in videogames that's my revenge... Man i miss her so much

[@SethbotStar]

These jokes were bad, but the fact that the bad jokes are consistently committed to is what makes them good. I think part of what makes this video so good is that you begin a challenge that you cannot do, and then proceed to do everything else if you could do it, so it's still interesting. And at the end it's like 'So, is it possible to do this challenge to which this entire video is dedicated? No.' and then the video ends not long after. It's like hearing a story that seems like it's going somewhere but actually isn't, and I feel like that is a fairly unique experience. Not quite what was done here, but it's like rambling about some story as if it's important but nothing of interest happens, and then you get distracted by the game, thus abruptly ending the strange story, and then a little bit later you start telling another story. I don't really know how to describe how it feels other than successfully making me mildly anticipate a lettuce sandwich. And that's a talent.

[@rattmanthestupid]

"making me mildly anticipate a lettuce sandwich" is going to be my new saying.

[@thatfrancisguy44]

This video is a gem! I understand the criticism, but I think you did a great job. I laughed all the way to the end. Anyway, Brad sounds like a nice guy

[@alanmauricio6301]

This guy couln't be less funny even if he tried

[@rattmanthestupid]

True. Fucking hate this guy.

[@tumultuousv]

Nice comment, did your mother make it for you?

[@SirBladewind]

Yeah he needs to cool it. Like some jokes hit but he fired *so many* and it kinda overwhelmed.

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@SirBladewind yeah, I agree. I was trying a bit too hard to make every second of it funny which is something I've been working on. Thank you for the feedback.

[@SirBladewind]

@@rattmanthestupid my dude, you just gotta love what you're talking about. End of the day the passion for what you're speaking about helps, even when jokes fail. That's why people love dumbass jokesters like Maxor or the Internet Historian. Max makes jokes almost as much as you do but that mfer *loves* the topic of which he speaks and that makes others love it too. Fr bro, check out your top 3 creators you follow and I bet you can see that in all their videos.

[@xbloodkiss.]

this may be some of the most interesting writing I've heard in a long long time please don't stop

[@rattmanthestupid]

Thanks for watching the video. I personally feel like my jokes got a little repetitive in this one (which is something I'm trying to work on) but I'm glad you enjoyed it. Also, I'd recommend watching Mitten Squad and ambiguousamphibian if you want similar (but better) writing and better production.

[@OlOleander]

I am so glad the algorithm brought me this. Broke and actually laughed out loud twice.

[@OlOleander]

I am sub 206.

[@rycftxdhfsdyftgdxuuhgjfgzx1925]

Amen brother glad one of us laughed

[@Mad77max77]

Why not ? You showed all that... so why not ? Did I miss something ?

[@rattmanthestupid]

I explained that the game (when starting a new save) places the player the a version of the solar system where 90% of the events don't happen. Including the sun going super-nova and the sand not moving. So I had to use cheats in order to get the warp-core.

[@gh0stqu4rtz]

ok we get it man

[@IsAStormComing]

If this was a video without the stupid jokes I would have finished it.

[@sandbox6347]

The comedy was all so natural. Came from the stomach. Passed as naturally as the wind through a mountain valley. Makes grass fed bovine look like McDonalds. Constant and flowing like a stream

[@lonelyone]

This might be more depressing than the actual game itself. And my imaginary wife’s boyfriend, Brad.

[@LowProfile0247]

1:02 :flushed: anyways theres a consistent set up for the guyser skip now if u care at all abt it :)

[@MrMelonsz]

“I started flashing, and then a campfire appeared. Weird flex but ok.” Ok, I’ll give you that one. That line was actually pretty funny.

[@dabmaster9642]

This is a great video. It's hell

[@rafaelvieira7265]

bro... wanna a hug?

[@knightmare6229]

Technicaly you cant beat the game without initiating the statue because... you already did it in order to know what to do?? Its a bit meta tho...

[@ASSE_VITA]

I've just done the game + the DLC... Such a great great great game, emotion was here at the end

[@rattmanthestupid]

DLC is what made this game perfect imo. I'm so glad you enjoy OW just as much as I do.

[@bradcogan8588]

I have your latest batch of cookies 🍪

[@svis6888]

I couldn't understand half the things you said, especially the beginning with the and and dead bodies with book covering and orgasm denier :'(

[@rattmanthestupid]

Yeah, I'm trying to work on slowing down how fast I read my scripts when recording them. Thanks for watching the video and giving some feedback!

[@jongross6177]

Woah, an Into the Woods reference? That’s a deep cut dog

[@PolterDev]

There is technically a way to glitch under the sand i think? Im not sure tho, nor am i sure if it does exist that its possible todo it before starting the loop

[@rattmanthestupid]

Yeah, I've been looking into it more recently after accidentally glitching through Ember Twins surface and into the cave (happens at 3:30 in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWeTpamrorqmoK8). I also have made games in Unity and know a little bit on how the Unity physics system works (and how all video games have to work). Basically, all games are constricted by your computers frames per second (FPS) when running updates. So, the fastest a game can calculate the physics is dependent on your frame rate. So, if I'm moving 20 m/s with a wall that is that is 10 meters away from me, I can phase through a wall in a game by lowering my frame rate. Pretty much, if in less than 1 frame I go from being on one side of the wall to the other due to my speed out pacing my frame rate, the game cannot calculate that I hit the wall since there is no frame of me actually hitting said wall. So I could theoretically slow down Outer Wilds by so much that I meet this requirement. Now, this all sounds good and easy on paper, but it's an entirely different problem in practice. The problem truly arises with how thick the sand volume is on Ash Twin. The reason I was able to glitch through Ember Twin is because the surface was pretty thin, I was moving fast and the surface needed time to load in. All of these created a long enough buffer window for the physics update to fail, but the same cannot be said for ash twin. Ash twin only has a texture LOD (Level of Detail) for the the sand volume. The sand volume cannot be unload due to it being a non-static (moving) object. So the physics update happens far sooner than it does on Ember Twin and the thickness of the sand volume means my frame rate would have to be agonizingly low for even a hope that I make it through. This isn't even mentioning how the fact I'd have to find a malware free external FPS limiter app that would work with Outer Wilds. So, is it doable? probably. Will I do it? maybe. Will it take a long time? oh most definitely.

[@PolterDev]

@@rattmanthestupid yeah, might be a cool speedrun catagory if you find a consistent way todo it Loopless%

[@FluidExtractor]

The video was cool, but the commentary was really painful to listen to. Not my kind of humor I guess?

[@rattmanthestupid]

Yeah, I've been trying to work on having less repetitive and more interesting commentary cause even I go back to this and think "nah, this could've been better".

[@erisi3869]

I wish I could like this video more than once

[@waloki]

ah yes I too hate the concept of time progression

[@rattmanthestupid]

Don't worry. I'm working on something even worse now. Can You 100% complete the shiplog and beat outer wilds without dying? The answer is a theoretical yes. But it's going to be a painful journey making it a reality. And yes, the 100% completion includes the DLC stuff.

[@waloki]

@@rattmanthestupid here you are not only transcending time but space too lol

[@Mwnbeam]

“Fish filled holes of your mom”is crazy😂😂😂😂

[@tldoesntlikebread]

This might be SPOILER but does the sun still go supernova in 22 minutes in the distance (2:31) if you reach the eye without starting the loop?

[@rattmanthestupid]

This is a really cool question! The answer is yes. This is because when you warp to the eye, the game loads a new map (same thing happens when you activate the statue in the museum).

[@patiodoorman]

this is impossible because if the time loop hasnt been started the sun wont explode and the hourglass twin's sand wont fall

[@rattmanthestupid]

yeah, that's exactly what I said in the video. But it is possible with the help of mods. So at the end of the video I say it is impossible but the video is more about seeing how far I can get and how much I can break the game by saying "fuck your rules".

[@nose1787]

@@rattmanthestupid realy???

[@batmirin35]

No, that's wrong, very wrong, the player don't "start" the loop, the player "notice" the loop, before game begins the loop already happened. The loop don't explode the sun, sun naturally explode and then the loop begins. But the video is still impossible because if player destroy loop without notice it, how does the loop happens before?

[@Dan0RG]

@@batmirin35 Looking at the statue is what starts the 22-minute timer in-game. You get infinite time to explore otherwise, it's like that so that you don't have the sun explode on you while you're exploring the tutorial area. Obviously that's not how it should work story-wise, it's just bending the rules a little since it can't affect anything outside the beginning of your very first loop unless you use exploits or cheats like in the video.

[@Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.]

I’m not tryna be a hater, but I agree with the guy on the pinned comment. You’ll get better at it, I’m sure

[@rattmanthestupid]

It's not being a hater when you have genuine criticism like the pinned comment. I over-did some jokes, used jokes that wouldn't age well (because they were funny memes at the time) and so-on. I've tried fixing that issue in my more recent uploads and it's only thanks to the pinned comment that I noticed some of those issues.

[@AnnihilatorCZ]

WYM the Ash Twin was doing nothing? It takes a minute or two for the sand column to start.

[@rattmanthestupid]

I wasn't going to include the full 5 minutes of me hoping the ash twin sand moving service would start. not to mention that you start in a version of the solar system that doesn't actually simulate anything other than orbits.

[@AnnihilatorCZ]

@@rattmanthestupid Fair enough.

[@minerman60101]

@@rattmanthestupid actually a time lapse of you standing on Ash Twin's equator as the Sun and Ember Twin circle around you dozens of times with zero sandflow could've been hilarious

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@minerman60101 that's a great idea! mods, ban this guy.

[@ValoriYT]

Although some of the jokes were funny, at least for me there were a lot more jokes that missed than jokes that landed. I want to be constructive though, so here is my feedback, in order of importance: -*Self-deprecating jokes aren't funny by default.* Being self-deprecating is funnier than the joke being on the audience, but that doesn't make it automatically land, especially when the same 5 jokes are made over and over. -*Creativity is essential.* To be honest, a lot of the humor felt super repetitive, and a lot of the time the punchline was predictable within the first few words. The jokes that were funny generally had some sort of subversion of expectation, whether it was in the direction that the joke went (like the dust joke at 3:01 or the "infinity instruments" at 4:33), or in the way that the joke was worded (like at 1:09, where you could've made a hip-hop song with more lines like that). None of these jokes were exceptionally funny, but they were the closest examples of replicable techniques for humor that I could find in the video. -*If you're going to make a recurring joke in a video, space out the joke so it's less slapstick and more unpredictable.* Subverting the expectations of an audience is key, which is what makes recurring jokes so much funnier when they manage to land. Think about making other jokes as a setup for the recurring joke. Make other jokes that are irrelevant to Brad and your wife. When 6 minutes later into the video, the same story about Brad is mentioned again, it is much funnier since we've (the audience) already forgotten about Brad 5 minutes ago* -*Stay relevant to the situation.* If you aren't doing or haven't already done something even closely related to denying an orgasm in the video, don't make a joke about it. If you aren't doing or haven't already done something even closely related to throwing bodies at a problem in the video, don't make a joke about it. Dying a lot doesn't count, because the viewer needs an experience to actually relate you dying a lot to the joke of throwing bodies at a problem. Think about how much funnier this would have been if you were playing a different game and had actually thrown bodies at something to solve the problem, like throwing poppers at the carnivorous plants in RainWorld, then you made a joke about how much you were dying by relating it to that previous experience. Make the joke work in the context of the video, because although the "orgasm-denier" joke made me chuckle, if you made it right after not giving a character in a game what they really badly wanted, like choosing to not give Hyetta a third shabriri grape or denying the enemy an ace in Valorant by hiding instead of trying to win** , it would have been much funnier. -*Use present-tense rather than past-tense.* The difference may seem subtle, but it makes a massive difference in the quality of commentary. For example, let's try changing the already pretty funny joke at 4:54, where you say "... and I swore I saw the end of the universe". I think it'd be a lot funnier if you said, "... and - HOLY SHIT!" *skip a beat for comedic timing* "I think I just saw the end of the universe." Listening to commentary in the present-tense immerses me in the experience, because I feel like it is happening right now. I think I see where you're trying to go with this style though. It seems somewhat similar to a League of Legends KZbinr called "Rav", with the identifier "@ravlol". I don't mean this in a rude way, but I think you may want to check out some of his most popular videos to get some new inspirations for jokes. Even if you don't play LoL, I think you'd get something out of watching his videos, as although a lot of the jokes relate to LoL, some can be understood even without the context of the game. The comments even tend to give away which jokes they found funniest, so after watching some of his popular videos, just scroll down to the comment section to get a better understanding of what people found funny and why. Hopefully you found some of this advice constructive! You seemed to have a growth mindset given how you responded to the pinned comment by HackedUpForBarbeque, and so I felt that I could offer some feedback from my perspective without offending you! *Just like how your wife forgets about you whenever she's with Brad. **The joke at the beginning of this video about being a pussy would have been 10x funnier if you had made the joke after doing something like this.

[@TheWayOfShawn]

Alternate title: Brad please choose me Great content

[@DoubleEffectx]

came here for a informative video, left with a sob story.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

Despite myself, I still found this quite humorous and was of course curious about the answer :P

[@R4izenn_]

That's cool, didn't know it's, almost possible, lol, so like, the sun can't explode without starting the loop or?

[@rattmanthestupid]

Yes, nothing is simulated besides orbits when you start the game for the first time. When you look at the nomai statue, the game loads a new version of the solar system with everything simulated. Pretty much, the solar system when first loading doesnt have an exploding sun, a brittle hollow that breaks apart, an hourglass twin that actually moves sand and an interloper that gets swallowed by the sun. I've actually played around in this version of the solar system for like 3 hours trying to map out a way to get all the ship logs without starting the loop. As for the "ship logs in zero loops" experiment, Gabbro works for the Time Variant Authority and makes this challenge completely impossible.

[@thepaqua846]

I have a strange suspicion that your comedy is inspired a lot by moist critical

[@rattmanthestupid]

Now that you mention it, the person I was inspired by was very similar to Mr. Moist. My biggest inspiration for my video style is definitely mittensquad. If you don't know who he was, he was a fantastic KZbinr and I loved his videos. He sadly died last year. As far as I know, his family has not said the cause of death, but he had been battling with alcoholism for a while. He was a great man though who inspired me to start this channel. I wish the best for his family.

[@DanzTheGB]

Moisty ahh jokes

[@Wezryx]

Sope videos 0:03

[@Unkraut]

just adding my "i thought it was pretty funny" comment

[@rebeccab1064]

Comedy is all about timing. I can't say the timing really landed for me, maybe flow is something to work on? As is, the commentary feels a bit monotone and the jokes don't stand out from the rest of what you're saying. I respect the effort though!

[@SethbotStar]

For me, I feel like it is exactly this that makes it such a bizarre and unique experience to view, whilst simultaneously seeming like nothing special.

[@Gameboymug]

That was chaotic 😂

[@sudiousmine]

I'm sorry. -Brad

[@rattmanthestupid]

I forgive you. -rattfuck

[@salvadorsagrado8270]

Could you link to your wife's youtube channel? I would like to subscribe to her

[@rattmanthestupid]

She doesn't have one, but I'll give you her onlyfans.

[@Cruciblecoder]

What in the Christ fuck have I stumbled upon (not /neg)

[@miserablebrian9245]

Dude! You absolutely deserve more subs. You're commentary is some of the best I've ever heard. The bit about your wife's boyfriend, Brad picking her over you has me rolling, and I'm sure a lot of people not listening carefully may have missed that one. Spot on.

[@uncleschubert8083]

Interesting

[@Mabifield]

Even there's a lot of dislikes, I, spanish rat, sitting here watching your video I laughed a lot :D

[@sermuns]

rattman! finally

[@TavishMcEwen]

ok this was funny

[@captainjirk9564]

3:13 I understood that reference!

[@pandaqwanda]

so true

[@soalr_syztem]

You make more insults than anybody I know

[@DanzTheGB]

No

[@SlayMorro]

You sounds like ia

[@1337treeckolol]

I laughed so hard. This fucking running bit got to me and broke me down

[@saarakallunki1687]

Hi

[@saarakallunki1687]

Do you pin everyone just wanna know??

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@saarakallunki1687 I have zero clue how I missed this comment. However, no I do not pin every comment. KZbin doesn't allow for pining of multiple comments but I do heart and like every comment (if I don't, it's because I didn't see it).

[@phobos420]

this whole video feels like a slight attack on your ex wife

[@rattmanthestupid]

Nah, me, brad and her have come to an agreement.

[@oscartiong6649]

You try way too hard to be funny. It’s better to just be yourself and speak the way you actually would to another person. You make a joke in pretty much every sentence. There needs to be a way bigger break between each joke or have no jokes at all. And more video editing can help the jokes land better too

[@ThexVaultxTech]

Your humor is good but needs skme work, just a little too much lingering and family tumblr jokes

[@kawaiibats2822]

WHAT IS THIS SCRIPT

[@kawaiibats2822]

(This is complete gold holy shit)

[@kaethis]

This was really bad.

[@user-rv9ty9br3q]

Too much bad jokes, not enough actually trying to do stuff without cheats. Disappointing.

[@rattmanthestupid]

My guy, it's literally impossible without cheats. I'll agree on the bad jokes. But I spent many hours testing different ideas so don't tell me I didn't try.

[@user-rv9ty9br3q]

@@rattmanthestupid kinda weird that speedrunners still didn't find a way to clip through sand actually

[@rattmanthestupid]

@@user-rv9ty9br3q not that weird. Pretty sure the sand is a volume meaning it is a very thick sphere. Most clipping is done due to unloaded volumes or thin volumes. thin volumes can be clipped through by moving fast enough that unity's physics engine doesn't have time to calculate the fact that you're running into a solid object. unloaded objects need time to load so moving faster than the frame-update for unity will also allow for clipping through objects. the problem with the sand on ash twin is it's a thick volume that is always loaded. since the sand on ash twin moves, unity cannot unload it. so yeah, that's why it's nearly impossible to clip through the sand on ash twin.

[@alicairoclips]

Nice way to alienate any chance of a female audience and also annoy plenty of men with shitty repetitive jokes that never get funny

[@rattmanthestupid]

I'm gay anyways so I don't care for a female audience.

[@alicairoclips]

@@rattmanthestupidhoney the gays love us, being attracted to men doesn’t make you a raging misogynist unless ur already stupid

[@rattmanthestupid]

Look, I didn't mean the joke to be misogynistic. The joke was supposed to be self-depreciating (that's why the good man that is Brad gets with my wife instead of me). I wish you luck with streaming as your videos are fun to watch.

[@ashpotatoes94]

This "comedy" is not it, man. Jesus.

[@rattmanthestupid]

Thanks commenter #6455 for your incredible feedback. Your comment is the 1000th one to say the same thing. As a member of Rattman Inc. I'd like to refer your complaint to the 3000 comments that say they enjoyed the video and the comedy within. Have a Rattman day!

[@cpasket122]

@@rattmanthestupidignore them. I think you’re funny. If they don’t like it they can just leave and not comment