Can You Beat Payday 2 As The Demoman?

[@can-xe5ub]

“What makes me a good challenge runner? If I were a bad challenge runner, I wouldn’t be sitting here discussing it with you, now would I?” - TheKknowley

[@nobleradical2158]

-Yelwonk

[@can-xe5ub]

@@nobleradical2158 I should’ve done that

[@dartflavor]

It would be cool if you did this with the other tf2 mercs, such as scout utilizing a dodge build or heavy being an 800 pound gorilla.

[@scarymeunster9095]

Heavy with 800 Pound Gorilla, Vulcan and Shotgun secondary? That’s actually pretty good.

[@thejuggercat]

@@scarymeunster9095 but you need to use the medic bags no matter what. Not only does It represent the sandvich but It also adds some chalenge, because aint no way a minigun is that ammo efficient.

[@manologamerss5801]

Or the Spy, who always has to try to stealth and can only attack with a knife (Preferably the Kunai since it's the same as the Conniver's Kuna) and a Revolver (Preferably one that has similitudes with one of Spy's revolvers, I think the Enforcer is a revolver in PD2?) and must have a suit and no armor at all times.

[@Glue_Eater06]

@@thejuggercat Jack Of All Trades aced will allow Ammo Bags

[@kobban63]

@@Glue_Eater06 ban that

[@Techhunter_Talon]

1:40 If there are any sword melee weapons, whether it be a one handed or two handed, those also fit the Demoman because he does have that whole 'Demoknight' subclass.

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

@EldritchJesus thats a good point

[@Glue_Eater06]

Or the shield melee

[@thealternative6658]

Well then it's demoknight not demoman

[@Lukisquez]

bro y'all forgetting the great sword itself 🗿

[@TheKknowley]

Spot on. Sometimes I have to lose the themeing slightly to make the run more unique.

[@beefjerky007]

This challenge enlightened me to the existence of what is possibly the worst weapon I have ever seen in an FPS… the HE round Reinfeld.

[@ComissarYarrick]

Try HE grimm 12g without crits and shotgun skills :P . 21 damage per shot XD. 4 shots to kill light Swat on NORMAL

[@SakuyalzayoiTheMaid]

double barrel slug, cripples the damn thing from 1800 damage in a shot to 286 damage per shot, honestly its just sad

[@Blucario90]

@@ComissarYarrick thats absolutely hilarious that a weapon which is one of the best can become one of the worst through just weapon mods

[@ditto-w]

@@ComissarYarrick it's a great civilian killer! not good at anything else though

[@bencegaming1716]

yeah the only use for HE rounds on shotguns is to activate yakuza and sw

[@cipherxi8513]

“IF I WERE A BAD DEMOMAN, I WOULDN’T BE SITTING HERE, NOW WOULD I?!” -Demoman

[@ManicObsevations]

que drunken pipe bomb music*

[@SFH_Jenkins]

"What makes me a good Demoman? IF I WERE A BAD DEMOMAN, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE DISCUSSIN' IT WITH YA', NOW WOULD I?!" *insert demoman shield charge scream*

[@MagicSchoolBusDropout4]

NOT ONE OF YA IS GONNA SURVIVE THIS!

[@lemonduck4378]

@@MagicSchoolBusDropout4one crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chloride one errand TWITCH, AND KABLOOEY

[@randomtexanguy9563]

@@lemonduck4378 They got more fecking sea monsters in the great Lochett Ness than they got the likes of me...

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

Fun fact: The "blackbox" was a "flamethrower" irl with the sole intent of launching incendiary rockets at enemy formations, that's why it has 4 tubes too. Now imagine TF2 pyro with this.

[@nepi7847]

the heavy update introduces the black box as a flare gun replacement

[@nadroji6549]

Hudda >8 O )

[@IsM1ku]

Yup, the M202 FLASH, the US army and... South Korea of everyone still has em. Oh and the M202 was apparently in the inventory list for the whole Afghanistan situation so there's a chance that some Taliban bois got sacrificed for extra health

[@KoalaTContent]

The Pyro update added a weapon similar in function, I think it's called the Dragon's Breath

[@sud1881]

@@KoalaTContent yeah but those are limited range and they are not rockets.

[@ryderblouin9079]

I love how in a tf2 themed challenge kknowley was saying that the snipers were hacking... almost like in tf2...

[@scarymeunster9095]

*NICE SHOT*

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

@@scarymeunster9095 good shot mate!

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

probably on purpose lol

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 all your heads are bloody twelve feet tall!

[@garagara4849]

@@sydssolanumsamsys wave g'bye to your head, wanka!

[@2kkl4wz]

Okay, being the engineer with shotgun primary and pistol secondary along with sentries would be awesome.

[@manologamerss5801]

Did you seriously reach death wish without even using the Piglet once? C'mon that's THE Payday 2 Demoman weapon.

[@TheKknowley]

I honestly thought it was going to be an inferior option within this rule set. I was completely wrong...

[@manologamerss5801]

@@TheKknowley You saw the 6 loaded grenades and thought that was weak? Even Valve nerfed that! And these are the people that thought the Wrangler was balanced. Also, I don't remember the other grenade launcher that wasn't added this update, but I remember it was worse in every regard than the Piglet. Plus if you use the no grip + a paint job it will straight up look like Demo's.

[@tonyshum5569]

Piglet even has a mod that turns into the default demoman grenade launcher

[@isaacmayer-splain8974]

@@manologamerss5801 the reload is something like 20 seconds from an empty mag so I think that's why he avoided it

[@manologamerss5801]

@@isaacmayer-splain8974 Except it loads faster per pill, and can just be stopped from reloading at any point, making it always faster than the other rocket launcher, along with a higher damage and fire rate.

[@cake_53_5]

Challenge idea: “Can a best payday 2 as a true hardcore heister?” Rules: max difficulty available (Death Wish), No skills, 2 piece suit, Any Assault Rifle and Pistol (or SMG) with attachments of your choice, any throwable, any melee, and you are allowed to use a perk deck. Lifelines: Use AI crew for one mission, Skip ONE heist if you think it would be impossible, Use skills for one heist (includes resets for that heist but you have to reset after that heist is done), phone a friend, and finally use stronger armor.

[@thelonelyregigigas6126]

Let them have an smg so they can do that one achievement

[@anon9469]

On Death Sentence, stronger armor would probably be a drawback.

[@cake_53_5]

@@anon9469 It’s a option for lower difficulties and when mayhem is the highest.

[@chadbroski7134]

funny suit anarchist

[@Fruggggg]

highest difficulty is death sentence, and this would be impossible except for stealth heists, because you tend to not get shot in those

[@SFH_Jenkins]

This man just made a crossover between my two favorite FPS games, I beg you to make videos for the other classes too. In general all your Challenge runs are so good and high quality, I binge watched them the moment I knew about their existense. I also do have a concept for a Spy playthrough, I hope it is helpful to you (If I explain too much I'm really sorry, I simply don't know how well you know Team Fortress 2 so I want to help with the research and every tiny bit of information): - Revolver only (let's allow akimbo). - No Judge shotgun, because spy doesnt have a shotgun revolver type weapon. - Melee weapon has to be some sort of small knife (Butterfly knife, Switchblade, Kunai, etc...) - Suit Only. - Every heist that can be stealthed has to be completed in stealth. *Some tips:* - "Running from Death" and "Feign Death"-Skill aced in tandem basically work like the Deadringer pocket watch that let's you fake a death and escape easier (Less damage, speed boost and invisibility). Since there is nothing that makes you invisible to cops or keep their focus off you when you Solo a heist, this would be your only option in terms of watches. Let's just re-write the invisability part a bit and make it into dodge. - The Spy has two revolvers that rely on Crits being 1st The Ambasador granting you crits on every headshot and 2nd The Diamondback giving you a free crit shot for every backstab you land. So, again, speaking for a dodge-crit build. - You can simulate backstabs with bloodthirst. - As throwable you could use the the X1-ZAPper since the Spy uses his Sapper to disable and destroy Engineer buildings, basically you zap people instead of buildings. Hope this could come in handy, just in case you want to do a challenge run like this in the future. No pressure though, it's your channel so only make the content you enjoy. Love ya

[@TheKknowley]

Spy concept sounds great! Definately and interesting one to try out.

[@Bacon-ys2xi]

I might try that myself lol

[@fei5649]

8:50 A demoman run starts thanks to a random crit. Amazing storytelling

[@MostAverage]

With the bot situation in TF2, Kknowley going through sniper hell in Payday 2 is very fitting.

[@driftiboi2266]

What makes Kknowley a good demoman IF HE WERE A BAD DEMOMAN HE WOULDNT BE SITTIN HERE DOING THIS CHALLENGE NOW WOULD HE

[@Trash_Enthusiast]

*LÊEEEEEES DŒOOO ITTT*

[@quentin5368]

"There's nothing stronger than love except an M32 rotary grenade launcher" -TheRussianBadger

[@Roxx_16]

all the merc ideas: Scout: Dodge Build (Rogue, Shotgun and Pistol) Soldier: Rocket Launcher (Shotgun, Rocket Launcher and any explosives-based perk deck?) Pyro: Dragons Breath and Flamethrowers Heavy: Minigun, Shotgun and Medbags Engineer: Sentries ONLY Sniper: Self Explanatory Spy: Melee Build with Butterfly Knife

[@randomtexanguy9563]

engineer can have shotgun and wrench though

[@theorangegremlin334]

You could use compact 40 to make a flare gun

[@benbot0733]

Spy should also get a revolver and pocket ECM for the sapper

[@Ezezetayin]

1:Scout has the Sandman and Iron Guillotine which resemble the Payday 2 bat (I can't remember the name) and the Dragan's Cleaver Knife. 2:Heavy uses Fists so any Fist related weapons allowed like the OVERKILL Boxing Gloves or just the Fists which resemble the Killing Gloves of Boxing and... well, Fists. And since his Sandvich, Second Banana, Dalokoh's Bar and Buffalo Steak Sandvich (why is it called Sandvich if it's a Steak?) All can be shared too other people, he should be able to bring doctor bags 3:All of Engineer's primaries are Shotguns, all of his melees are Wrenches (not counting the Gunslinger) and he has a Pistol. He should also be able to carry Doctor and Ammo bags since Dispenser 4:Sniper has SMG'S, Bows, Machetes and Jarate which, in my opinion, can be recreated with Concussion Grenades and 5:One wise man once said: S P Y H A S A G U N So he can use many knife shaped weapons and all Revolvers. (And the pocket ECM/ECM Jammer which both resemble the Sapper)

[@agpiplup288]

These "Can you beat" episodes are really entertaining to watch. shows you really where a build can go wrong (in this one you had to dedicate your secondary to dozers or snipers, not both) Cant wait to see the next idea!

[@Xylaite]

9:08, you see that was just the game giving you an even closer experience to tf2 by adding the totally fair and balanced random crits As long as we ignore the damage was only doubled and not tripled

[@RavenStory71123]

14:56 Twitch: *dies tragically in the getaway car in a pipe bomb explosion* Kknowley: Huh, wonder why he won’t talk anymore.

[@pavluck127]

*drinks stoic flask* (in calm voice) "If I were a bad heister, I wouldn't be sitting here, discussing it with you, now would I?"

[@gnomeman5808]

“What makes me a good demoman?”

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

"If I were a bad demoman, I wouldn't have made this video now would I?" -The kknowley

[@placeholder4107]

"If I were a bad demoman, I wouldn't be sittin' here discussin' it with you, now would I?"

[@piyo744]

@@placeholder4107 "Leeeeeet's do iiiiit!"

[@demo160]

hell ýe

[@hoxton4]

@@piyo744 *explosions* not one of you's gonna survive this!

[@vivien221003]

9:37 > TF2-themed challenge > Hacking Snipers They will never leave us alone, will they....

[@scarymeunster9095]

6:52 *_”I’M THE PRETTY PINK UNICORN FROM HELL, AND I’M COMING FOR YA!”_* - _Tavish Finnegan DeGroot, Drunken Black Scottish Cyclops_

[@dannybeane2069]

Idea I had for a challenge run, single use weapons. AKA: The glass cannon run. Whenever you do a heist, you must select a new primary and secondary you never used previously during the challenge. Hard mode: you must select a new primary and secondary for each new heist AND for each reset you do. New lifeline for this challenge: weapon dupe glitch (just a name not an actual glitch): you get the chance to re-use any primary or secondary you used previously in the challenge. Will make money actually matter during your run

[@Shiorevi]

Technically, you could run yakuza for speed alongside long melee weapons. Demoknight is quite powerful option for stealth.

[@nobleradical2158]

_Silent, aggressive charging with a claymore_

[@grate9]

@@nobleradical2158 imagine seeing a black Scottish cyclops running at you in mach 3, aggressively gasping while doing so

[@ultrasword6453]

20:10 I can hear the dozer saying "Nope! Not fucking with that guy!"

[@starkoikyiv6406]

Scout - Double barrel shotgun with pistol and bat. Soldier - Shotgun, RPG, and K.L.A.S shovel. Pyro - Flamethrower, shotgun, axe Demo - Already done here. Heavy - Minigun, the secondary shotgun, and fists melee. Engineer - Shotgun, Pistol, Wrench, and sentry (need points tho) Medic - Crossbow, Medic Bag, Syringe, and Friendos to heal. Sniper - Sniper rifle, SMG, and machete Spy - No primary, only revolver, butterfly knife, and ecm. Just some fun ideas to try. If the demoman is possible then these might be good to try.

[@XA_Live]

I have a cool theory: The challenge was actually the easiest in the series, but he struggle through some parts of it because he has the blu team's gloves

[@5persondude]

I hope they add an explosive damage multiplier mutation as compensation for the double damage bug getting patched. Those sky-dives were magnificent 👌

[@Choppytehbear1337]

13:12 Nuclear warheads are actually very complex pieces of machinery. A very specific set of actions needs to happen in a very specific order at the exact right time, or they wont explode. All blowing one up with normal explosives would accomplish is spreading radioactive material in a small radius.

[@garagara4849]

SO. MANY. REFERENCES I can't even count the number of tf2 names you managed to get in there haha really well done! Oh and cool challenge too!

[@TheKknowley]

Hahaha, really glad someone picked up on them!

[@LightCrib2]

43:25 No wonder you died, you thought your grenade was a launcher. Don't drink and heist, kids.

[@redpanda4102]

i find it very funny that this run had so much trouble with snipers given whats happening with tf2 right now

[@Ginkami]

18:49 "the two most cowardly guards in DC" he says, while actively pointing a FUCKING GRENADE LAUNCHER at them both

[@cheesebucket142]

13:12 Actually, hitting nuclear warheads with explosives isn't gonna do much. Nukes have very specific ways to detonate them that have to be done just right to work at all, it's not like a block of explosive being set off by another explosion.

[@Palgineer]

49:35 Demogres is too stronk for Payday 2 I might've missed every heist, but it was beautiful hearing Demoman in the White House for like 10 minutes. Also, finally Sangres

[@ChristmasFlavoredJukebox]

What makes me a good demoman? If I were a bad demoman, I wouldn't be sittin' here discussin' it with you, now would I?

[@VIVIAN81]

Your commentary on this run in particular was absolutely hilarious I doubted I was gonna find this one all that interesting and you definitely made a fool of me, great video kknowley

[@IseeSandvich]

I'm surprised people didn't know about the gl40 sights being togglable. Such a useful feature.

[@EnochTheFox]

Damn I love all of knowley's tf2 references. I was afraid he'd just do a challenge video and leave it at that

[@badluck7286]

You've started it, it's a curse. Now it won't leave your head. You HAVE to complete Payday 2 as all classes. Demoman has been completed. Now Heavy, Scout, Pyro, Spy, Sniper, Soldier, Medic and Engineer. No balls

[@sev1120]

Another note on the demoman: You could have also used swords, battleaxes and the katana, as they're all weapons that Demoman uses (granted it's mostly when he goes some form of Demoknight, but it's still Demoman)

[@realmark8125]

Basically he had to use only melees with yakuza, doubt it’ll be a good idea

[@antipoison]

28:54 Inspire is for your teammates, not the police.

[@e.schroeder474]

I'm with Jello here, I'd love more of the mercs. Maybe even a Medic build where you're basically pacifist-ing the game with a crew of the other mercs, or something of the sort.

[@hellothereworld4401]

ha "IF I WERE A BAD DEMOMAN, I WOULDN'T BE SITTIN' HERE, DISCUSSIN' IT WITH YA', NOW WOULD I?" ha

[@MyUsersDark]

I really enjoyed the script on this one! The jokes about the death poses were on point

[@craftysmithkeith3653]

What makes me a good demo man? WELL IF I WAS A GOOD DEMOMAN I WOULD BE SITTING HERE DISCUSSIN’ IT WITH YA! **fades away slowly**

[@sevraj420]

Things go boom in this video.

[@jessegd6306]

I suspect the Sniper would be one of the more regular looking runs of Payday 2, what with using regular bolt-action sniper rifles, sub machineguns, and a large knoife. And for stealth, there's still suppressed sniper rifles and suppressed submachineguns. And the knoife.

[@drunkie3186]

If I were a bad demoman I wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with ya now i?

[@cirno9god]

idea for spy build: akimbo/regular revolvers, butterfly knife (obviously), ecm jammers for the sapper and so you have a pretty good supply of ecms, hacker build

[@dontaskquestions8721]

You could do this as Soldier, with your secondary limited to either rocket launcher, and your primary limited to certain shotguns. Your melees could be the shovel, pickaxe, and any other Melee Soldier has. And if you want added challenge, shotguns can't use Explosives, Slugs, or Dragons Breath. Pyro is an option as well if you want to limit your secondary to *just* the flamethrower. Also, the double damage with your grenade launcher was just a double-donk. XD

[@rakshacerberus8222]

I'm gonna take a drink every time you switch back to the commando.

[@crimsonorange6809]

You forgot to put on an eyepatch

[@wordze]

"Yer arses arse and I'm the grass man punk, ye Heaven's heathen." As a Demo main I am overjoyed to watch some of my favourite games combined together as we all embrace the joy of blowing stuff up! "Cheers mate!"

[@CarrotIsBad]

WOOOO COMMANDO YEAA

[@Mr.Critter4091]

You should complete Payday 2 as scout next, and it would be really awesome if you decide to make this a full series sometime in the future. Love your work btw!

[@kirajoo]

Pov: demo main trying to survive casual bots

[@TheOGmadlad]

what makes me a good demoman? WELL IF I WERE A BAD DEMOMAN I WOULDENT BE SITTING HERE DESCUSING IT WITH 'CHA NOW WOULD I?

[@vincentburlingame8646]

FINALLY, I've been waiting for this!

[@slyllamademon2652]

Swords and two handed battle axes should be allowed because demoman has those available as well.

[@northwestcottt]

Team fortress is like an unmotivated friend. Cool to be around and does something cool once in awhile, but doesn’t do much a lot of the time. Payday is like it’s brother. Also cool to be around, barely mentions them but when they do, it’s always something to try and motivate the brother.

[@LoneSarge]

I like all the little references and hints at things in TF2 scattered throughout the video, they add a nice touch.

[@BighairyAmericanwinningmachine]

will say, when payday 3 comes out I'm definitely gonna miss the physics of the diesel engine

[@TheKknowley]

Probably the reason why this was the most fun run for me to play through!

[@Irononyx]

"There gonna have to glue you back together!!!" -Demoman

[@ballinchief7299]

when you gonna speedrun payday 2 again

[@TheKknowley]

I plan to try some shorted categories over the next few weeks (Secret% and Infamy%) to get some practice in, then hit any% again over the summer.

[@ballinchief7299]

@@TheKknowley nice!

[@xerxstirb]

The Sniper Challenge: You're only allowed to shoot while scoped in with the following sights: Theia Magnified Scope, Box Buddy Sight, A5 Scope (Repeater 1874) and Barrel Sight 44 (Broomstick). If that sounds too easy, don't use Graze. Bonus points for always hiring Illja the Sniper whenever possible.

[@-thetellyou-1445]

Ima guess and say yes

[@JayHog1992]

If I recall, the reason why explosive ammo is so weak that takes more shots is because you're trading some damage with the ability to stun enemies. Useful when to fend off tasers or stopping a special such as a cloaker dead in their tracks.

[@emersonhowe3717]

good video

[@texasred4339]

18:48 would you do much resistance to a man with 2 grenade launchers?

[@callme_v8789]

Do sniper...its fun trust me

[@merchantziro4285]

Now I just wanna see an Engineer run because the idea of you having to go out of your way to get the wrench melee is funny to me as well as watching you put 6 sentries up because you have to use more gun.

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

But can you beat it as lo Wang?

[@TheKknowley]

No we're talking

[@scarface406]

* grabs sword shield and launcher * do not worry lads you got a bloody demoman on youre team!

[@fiyahquacker2835]

This isn't really specific category for a challenge like "demoman" or any of the others but at some point you should try beating payday in whatever way you want but you have to always have these 2 mods installed: Full Speed Swarm and MoreCops. Separate neither are crazy with their settings maxed but together things will get insane even on overkill to put it lightly. For some more pain also install "always 4 players" which will make the spawns equal to if there is 4 players no matter what.

[@jkengland832]

23:57 ''Betrayed my rust''. Truly insane this run has made you

[@pixiemoortgat8989]

oh wow I'm early, hi there c:

[@Bacon-ys2xi]

Some of the only streams I could actually make it to, loved every second of the stream and video

[@Cheesemanlover]

First

[@darkonikolic5732]

day one of trying to prove to everyone that TheKknowly and Toofty are the same person on two different chanels and playing different games, also he has an multiple personality disorder. But now those personalities are in a state of shock and created this video.

[@Doktor_Glass]

try the no shooting run over again but with the life lines also on panic room for the snipers have jokers itll take them a lil while but it can be done or use throwables to hit the snipers and kill them

[@BR1SK33]

When the luck of demo man gave you the strength of random crits in the beginning half of the run

[@clanglois781]

I think a good expansion for the arsenal of the demoman would be the sword melee weapons to represent the demo knight subclass

[@cloak679]

demo man. man i love that character, use to main him alot.

[@matej___7___871]

Fuck yea, as a great man once said: ,,Another one"

[@spicymilk6725]

You should do an engineer run using pistols shot guns and most importantly turrets

[@nou8830]

Y'know watching this now, you could have also used the great sword as the demo man has a possessed sword that calls for heads.

[@Destifides]

I’ve had a weird idea for a challenge run bouncing around in my head (and I’m not sure if you can call it a challenge run): a challenge run where each heist would have you spin a wheel for a certain heister. You would have to pick their perk deck and weapons, playing as the character and building around it. You can otherwise build for what you like as long as you keep the weapons and perk deck.

[@Gerbally]

19:24 "i said, tell Mr Dozer goodbye." "Bye Mr Dozer"

[@LostLarz]

Man I just gotta give you some respect found your channel a little bit ago and man you’ve been on the grind for years keep it up chase the bag

[@obi_wanshinobi]

27:17 “a couple of war crimes” *the spiffing Brit would like to know your location*

[@arandomdog8586]

We need the TF2 mercs as official payday DLC.

[@IzzytheMelody]

Half the fun of this video is finding all the TF2 references. The weapon names, item names, and lore bits. Good stuff.

[@ahxb2550]

the grenade launcher going off and hitting twice is just what the loose cannon does the spirit of the demoman was with you

[@screamingcactus1753]

How about a "minions only" run, where you can only deal damage through Jokers and Sentries? Sentries are fun, and I'd love to see a challenge focused around them And as a potential recommendation for a special lifeline: Arm yourself: You are allowed to use any unmodified secondary weapon for one heist. You are not allowed to change your skills to compliment the weapon.

[@Danoid-1]

Jesus Christ the weapon puns are too intense. The 'tide turned' in your favour at 24:50 and many, many, many more puns to add earlier on and later

[@LavenderSystem69]

36:31 That's called Perfidy. It's literally a war crime. The Payday 2 AI literally committed a war crime against you lol

[@ztein9058]

Challenge idea for Spy: Run butterfly knife and revolver. For any heist that is stealthable, you have to do it in stealth. I feel like it could be easy but interesting. Or alternatively, you can copy an enemy build. For example, you can copy a green dozer with a reinfeld and ictv or for a cloaker use a compact five and lbv. I think both could be interesting

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

honorable mention for the dive competition at 32:42, poor dude got double donked lol