Can You Beat Persona 5 Royal with a Nuzlocke Ruleset?

[@realmapled]

I love how he calls everyone „best girl” and ohya is just, ohya xD

[@Supernova4297]

It’s the law!

[@JolteOnWisconsin]

Makoto and Takemi are best girls

[@trueNordVPN]

@@JolteOnWisconsin you misspelled Haru

[@toma01001]

Who is Ohya?

[@Streetcleanergaming]

And its constant!

[@Laurcus]

The paths in Mementos are named after the Qliphoth, the Tree of Evil, which is the inverted version of the Sefirot, with Adam Kadmon representing transcendence of the Sefirot. This is why you go up the paths instead of down them in the third semester as you're quite literally walking the path towards Adam Kadmon.

[@michaeluwuowo]

Damn I hate that aqliport towers. High attack beat stick unaffected and has negates. To damn good. uwu

[@Poppipower]

@@michaeluwuowo Booting in Replica Mode… An error has occurred while executing C:\sophia\zefra.exe Unknown publisher. Allow C:\tierra\qliphort.exe ? …[Y] Booting in Autonomy Mode…

[@catalyst539]

With the final area before Yaldabaoth being named Qliphoth World.

[@Jaeger460]

@@michaeluwuowo God bless the release of borreload resulting in it being power crept forever

[@michaeluwuowo]

@@Jaeger460 how? Borrelload is good but not that good

[@Linkforlife199]

Ann's Sexy Technique confidant ability would be almost essential on this style of run, being able to completely stop an enemy from attacking could be a literal lifesaver. Nicely done clearing through this challenge, was interesting to watch.

[@big_pip_energy_tt]

Isn't sexy technique the one that helps with negotiating?

[@Linkforlife199]

@@big_pip_energy_tt It worked differently in P5 than in Royal. In P5, it helps with negotiating and it was her rank 7 ability. In Royal, it was changed to allow Ann to have a chance to cancel an enemy's turn and it is her rank 4 ability. You might have been thinking of the P5 version instead of Royal.

[@C4lmaria]

@@big_pip_energy_ttnah, that's girl talk

[@Cozy_Colin]

yeah no, my first run of P5R, I played on hard (not realizing merciless was slightly better) and that singular ability has downright saved me from getting mopped a few times (and led to me cheesing a *lot* of red shadows)

[@DrunkMoblin]

@@Cozy_Colin Better? How so?

[@YozoraHeart]

I'm glad everyone agrees the Ryuji/Morgana fight is the worst part of the game

[@pftheswaglord]

it could have been written SO much better 😭 like i understand why morgana was mad but they should have done more to convey that

[@tysej4]

@@pftheswaglord And smack it right in the middle of what people for.. Decent reasons argue is the worst palace and it's a perfectly terrible combination

[@pftheswaglord]

@tysej4 nothing can repair okumuras palace unfortunately

[@Nervarel]

Great video as usual and I appreciate you sticking with the plot by killing off the only character who actually dies.

[@catalyst539]

He literally doesn’t die though. His fate is unknown unless you maxed out his confidant and got the true ending.

[@JonasNybacka]

@@catalyst539 He literally does die though.

[@DevilSurvivorsBiggestGlazer]

​@@JonasNybackayou see him in the ending cutscene

[@switchman368]

@@DevilSurvivorsBiggestGlazer we also see joker in his phantom suit in real world immediately after that scene, implying joker just seeing thing.

[@catalyst539]

@@switchman368 That happens regardless of whether or not you maxed out Akechi’s confidant, which is the trigger for him walking past the train.

[@ShursGarden]

Well, Ann actually can't do the Crown one. I think it's the only case where a party member can fail it just for being a party member. Kamoshida won't take his eyes off of Ann.

[@ShursGarden]

Yeah that's the point. His lick attack also only targets her.@randomusername1735

[@cooltwittertag]

@randomusername1735 Oh wow, gross

[@Blarglesnarfe]

Oh wow, gross

[@wildhooman6475]

Oh wow, gross

[@burningrain1496]

Oh wow, gross

[@marshall7439]

it's hilarious that the only casualty of this run is Akechi.

[@corsola9907]

52:57 I'm sure it was just a mistake but "3rd trimester" instead of "3rd semester" is hilarious.

[@moldilocks2904]

There cant be a third semester since it means half. If a time frame is cut in half, its semesters, and if its in thirds its trimesters. Like how when a woman is pregnant, each trimester is 3 out of the 9 months

[@miralyth3088]

​@moldilocks2904 actually third semester is correct in this case, since it's not actually one whole being cut into three parts the first and second semesters refer to the school year that the base game takes place in, so the third semester is the first semester of the following school year

[@TicTacToeCraft]

The German translation actually uses the term "Trimester" instead of "Semester", which may be the cause of the confusion.

[@hixum4079]

Well aware that i’m very late to this, but i believe that trimester is quite right…? I mean, trimester quite literally means 3 months (and semester 6 months); due to how japanese school works (they begin their terms in late march i believe…?) they have one trimester before summer break, then they get a term before winter break and then one until march Idk tho, english isn’t my first language and i might have got something wrong

[@corsola9907]

@hixum4079 Japanese schools do semesters. The breaks are factored in. Even though the game ends before the 3rd semester is complete, doesn't mean that it would turn into a trimester (at least in my opinion). The time inside the P5 world would continue on even after the game ends.

[@spicy_shumai]

I find it hilarious that Akechi often rants about the PT being babies that don't know shit about the Metaverse.. and he was the only one who died in the run.

[@zubadub6700]

For those unaware merciless mode makes you do less damage against enemies however it drastically increases your exp, money, and weakness striking damage unlike hard mode which has normal exp and money and you don't get the massive weakness strike bonus so in a lot of cases hard mode is harder than merciless unless you are facing an enemy with no weaknesses. So if you want to do this and have an easier time while not making it that much easier merciless mode is pretty close.

[@pixel6894]

Fun fact - in every version of Royal if you rewatch Mona and Ann’s showtime attack exclusively in the thieves den, in the top left of the screen during the whole thing is a Mac mouse cursor. It’s still in the game. Never patched. Funnily enough, a Mac version doesn’t exist at all.

[@TheTrains13]

Well it's because they are Macintosh computers in disguise

[@Eternalwarpuppy]

I think for a challenge like this, Merciless would actually be more difficult. Crits will randomly kill people sometimes when they do triple damage.

[@monarchy028]

I’m currently playing one on merciless, and I assure you sleep + technical with phys makes it significantly easier.

[@chillnagasden6190]

@@monarchy028This. Recently did this run and it is *hard required* to even get past one or two enemies in Kamoshida's palace that just lol you in 1 hit or damn close to it. Without a crit.

[@mrcat4508]

When I fight akechi I always make the rest of my party leave my team because he is my rival and it feels like cheating winning with a full team

[@dangerdare4114]

I do it because I get mad everytime my teammates say “We only won against you because we were working as a team” 💀

[@mrcat4508]

@@dangerdare4114 if only it was possible to also turn off futaba support

[@chiffoncakeandtea]

Tbh, I feel like since it helps the whole "The reason Akechi failed is because he was all alone since he never had any meaningful relationships, while joker bonded with his friends and had a strong relation with them" I don't really mind ganging up on him lol

[@jcs3146]

@@chiffoncakeandtea Level Diff tbh, He planned to fight the whole party but wasn't even at max level?

[@MrThisucks]

Nah me and the boys are running up on him

[@animeproblem1070]

I honestly would prefer SMT nuzlockes to include fusion as it a core mechanic that makes it a dance of trying to recurit worse personas/demons for better fusions later or recruiting the best demon in every palace/dungeon with the knowledge that you'll have worse fusion options

[@Zer0Main43]

Shiki and Girimekhala carrying the Persona 5 challenge run yet again

[@monokuma7746]

the fact only akechi dies is ironic since he dies in the story

[@bwycb]

No random memes, no annoying sfx, just your commentary and footage. Best challenge channel yet.

[@Rocketlauncha69]

"Here one persona sticks out" JACK FROST JACK FROS- "Shiki-Ouji" FUCK

[@Mr-Trox]

It wasn't very Hee Ho of him.

[@QuanNguyen-bk4pn]

3:32 that made me laugh real hard

[@vilvillainsly]

I think this challenge would be really cool in SMT 5

[@zoruasnivy]

This is a really neat idea but also sounds hellish 😂

[@hugojimenez9693]

Man, I rather smash my switch then ever do a run like that.

[@Hymn_]

oh god, it's going to be a massacare

[@gamer-san8923]

It would be an absolute nightmare in SMT V 💀

[@litessbu]

There are only four areas(provided you don’t count dungeons like the Demon King’s Castle and the like), that’s one over the amount you need to create a full party. That sounds like Hell.

[@colgatetoofpaste]

I love this ruleset from Pokémon, so I'm excited to see how well you can do with it in this game! Seems way more difficult with only a few party members.

[@NitsuaGamer]

Even though people have done this run, it's nice to see a video of the Nuzlocke done on this game.

[@cafequente8252]

Honestly, one of your most interesting videos, together with the no random encounters challenge. Only complaint is that, in this specific setup, I believe merciless difficult would actually be more dangerous, considering that a random technical or weak hit could suddenly kill a teammate, which again, in this specific setup, could be very problematic Best part was seeing you use royal mechanics to get through, such as alarm skill carfs and acessories, but I would also love to see how you would fare without them if you were to try this challenge in an older persona game

[@Infinitrack_YGO]

Great video! I did something similar where I did an "Only Arsene, Merciless, No Velvet Room" run. The key to making the run smoother was utilizing obtaining skill cards from shadow negotiations. There's actually a lot of good skills able to be required as you progress through the run.

[@Recluset]

Can I Try this Only Arsene, Merciless, No Velvet Room run for a video idea?

[@Infinitrack_YGO]

@@Recluset go for it! There's a spreadsheet online somewhere that outlines all the shadow negotiation cards if you can find it. Good luck with your run!

[@BlazingDiancie]

23:54 IIRC, that mini-boss Sui-Ki has Freeze Boost 47:07 And I know for a fact that that Forneus mini-boss has Fast Heal

[@joshburt8145]

"best girl ann, best girl kawakami, best girl kasumi, and ohya."

[@matheusjosesilveira7050]

This is a actually good content to show about persona 5. The only thing that make me tilt my head is about the nuzzlocke rule of catch the fist pokémon that appear on grass. Here on Persona you should translate to encounter the first shadow on each palace/memento, but that make the option to get Personas very shot and I undertand that. Nice work here, you deserve all praise!

[@shungite8240]

The whole “catch the first thing you see” isn’t something every nuzlocke has

[@furiouscorgi6614]

​@shungite8240 its a pretty standard rule in almost every Nuzlocke

[@nosleepforme2242]

He also uses items which I don’t think you’re allowed to do in most nuzlockes. At least not doing the battle, only in between.

[@brimfire7536]

@@nosleepforme2242 that's actually a hardcore rule, same as the level cap.

[@nosleepforme2242]

@@brimfire7536 ah okay makes sense.

[@wildcaffeine8906]

just came across this video! honestly makes me wanna do and actually finish a P5R playthrough with nuzlocke rules, great video!!

[@obliveousemoon]

I've done a nuzlock with SMT4. Do recommend. 3 demons per area, when they die you can fuse corpses with others to get stronger demons.

[@vicola1235]

That was an awesome run, well done!

[@SongokuJidai]

This is an interesting concept but I feel for it to be a true nuzlocke, you can pick unless Futaba position hacks you an "all downed" before you get your desired persona. Then you have to take or leave what you get as your encounter. That said, I wouldn't do that kind of run, so ignore me. Fantastic video all around.

[@bigl56]

Good shit bro. If you want a harder challenge you could try itemless. Love persona but I'm more of a pokemon challenge player. Seems like this run went like a lot of nuzlockes where it's very tricky early but once you have more resources at your disposal it becomes much simpler. Not diminishing the accomplishment whatsoever though!! Very well played!!

[@ruben0222]

At this point you’d practically just make this a deathless run but with extra restrictions.

[@Arluq-e6l]

man you might be the last stand of p5 chalenge runs, you the GOAT

[@Sk801Erik]

The pronunciation for every demon is in the game lol

[@ParakeetDSi]

40:54 Sae will be pissed off

[@efhancock9797]

First video of yours I've seen and I enjoyed it a lot! Subbed and about to go down the "Persona challenge run video" rabbit hole.

[@dond2377]

Thanks to your comment on the last video, I finally found someone completing this challenge! Cudos to you!!

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

I'm late, but Reaper was lv85 so the 3rd semester cap being about that high makes sense in that way too. Also, level cap prevents you from the increased damage multipliers for enemies being much weaker than you so that did make things tougher. Joker with 80 St would still deal extra damage at lv80 compared to lv70 if he fought a lv70 enemy

[@Evanz111]

11 out of 11 video length, great number

[@zwataketa]

I feel like a lighter difficulty can be to have it where you can get one Persona per "chapter" of each Palace. Thinking about when you're booted out to get a new party member or unlock a door through the real world.

[@matthugenberg8869]

Huh, flavorful run. Only akechi died. Seems lore accurate. XD

[@ntrg3248]

i did a no fusion run last year, it was pretty similar to this but not as extreme on rules. the only things I would do differently would be going to the gym early to get 999 hp on joker, and using haru more. (because makoto's makajama + haru technical damage is busted) This seems like a lot of fun to do

[@SuperAmaton]

Well done, though I will never do a nuzlocke. Half the fun for me is fusing, so this is a nogo for me.

[@cobybyers]

Yknow I've happened across multiple videos of yours now, I should just sub at this point since I just keep getting recommended your solid content. Always have a great time watching, love your energy and voice, dude!

[@acaldwell64]

My friend, I did not know that Joey Wheeler played Persona 5 Royal. Haha That's an advanced Brooklyn accent. Awesome vid, man.

[@noisepollution4473]

I started watching because the last video I watched from you was amazing, then remembered partway through that I never actually finished P5 and do plan to one day so I can't finish the video without spoiling myself. I'll be back! It'll be... a while, though.

[@theminiexplosionsjr.3008]

I like how bro is casually running this on 200 fps

[@jayriot3991]

Awesome video. Really enjoyed it 👍

[@catalyst539]

Isn’t Maruki a higher level than Fafnir? I’m pretty sure the game intends for you to be level 99 to fight him, as at level 86 there’s a chance you could lose to him using a Megidolaon with unfair damage, which only happens if you take too long.

[@xXSamir44Xx]

If it only happens when you take too long it's meant to be a time limit. Not something you can just shrug off. You're definitively not meant to be level 99 for anything in the game. Unless you want 0 challenge.

[@agatha6999]

@@xXSamir44XxLavenza:

[@billylewis1585]

The Irish pronunciations weren’t too bad actually! The reason why it’s go weird to pronounce is because we’re using English letters for a language that doesn’t match, so for our sounds we have certain letter combinations for the sounds we make while speaking. It’s not a rule, but for example ch usually makes the “wh” sound, like in “who”. The pronunciation is “Cu-Who-lin”, but usually regional dialects differ

[@murillodaniel9208]

One thing I noticed that could be interesting in a second try of this challenge is that instead of choosing which shadow to pick per location, you do like most nuzlockes and only pick the first one you fight, and if you lose this one you can't pick another in that place.

[@Xthefirepheonix]

The second part wouldn't work since if you loose the Persona it means it died, which means you blacked out (Game Over) which is an instant reset. But it would be interesting to see someone attempt the "First Encounter Only" rule

[@chrisjfinlay]

The main thing I’m taking from this is that the PlayStation version has much, much smoother animations (and even extra ones, like the jazz club barman actually serving you instead of the drinks just appearing after a black screen) than the switch version. I don’t regret getting the switch version cos I travelled a lot while playing but wow. Night and day!

[@rhodrigoyamamoto3563]

Me: Wow this dude must be a god at this game for trying this. **Proceeds to reset in 2 minutes**

[@shslmood2890]

F in the chat for Akechi. I mean he was gonna die anyway so I guess it’s fine lol

[@Monochr_ome]

i swear im not here to find a way to beat okumura

[@jacobchesley5375]

That rainy day music brings back memories

[@the_maker1841]

when the solo merciless run wasn't enough for people

[@AdjustedDisparity]

ah masochism. My favorite okay at least you didn't play on merciless. It may be technically easier than hard, but realistically if you got ambushed on merciless you would lose at least 1 party member. Now I know getting ambushed is very rare, but in 100 hours it will happen

[@ahmarigittens5823]

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[@devinport.]

Dope channel , should have discovered it sooner but better late than never

[@Symptomatic315]

I haven’t finished the video, but 100% know Okumura might be one of the hardest.

[@nathanbrownlee9276]

I tried a different take on the Nuzlocke Run for Persona 5 Royal because I wanted to take advantage of the all of the different elements of the game. Also it’s hard to do a typical Nuzlocke since the Persona don’t have individual health bars so they can’t die or faint like Pokémon. I called it the Fool’s Journey Run where you can only use 1 Persona of each Arcana. The first Persona you obtain for an Arcana are the only ones you can use. Fusion is still restricted but you can still use it. If the first Persona you obtain for an Arcana is a Treasure Demon, you can fuse it with one of your other main Persona. So you’re essentially sacrificing the Arcana of the Treasure Demon to strengthen one of your other Persona. Now if you max out a Confidant, that unlocks the ability to fuse using the Persona of that Arcana. The other Persona being used needs to their Arcana to also have a maxed out Confidant. So you need to max out at least two Confidants before you can fuse your main Personas. After fusing them, the new Persona counts as the main Persona for both Arcana. So with this run, you can potentially use 24 Persona. But since there’s 9 Treasure Demons, the average number of Persona you’ll be using would be closer to 13. The main issues I had with this run is that I wasn’t sure if the starting Persona should count. We of course start out with Arsene but the game forces you to get certain Persona in the tutorial and even forces you to fuse. Also the Strength Confidant requires you to make specific Persona and I wasn’t sure if it should count if one of the Strength Confidant Persona ends up being the first Persona you get for an Arcana. If I make Seth to finish the Confidant and he ends up being the first Tower Persona I obtain, should that count? I had a lot of fun with the run but I wasn’t able to experiment enough to polish the rules.

[@Romalian]

I was 58 minutes into this video until it dawned on me he was saying Jazz Club I kept asking... Where the hell in this game is a Chess Club? What....? Lol

[@jcs3146]

3:33 I had to stop and comment for this WOW

[@ConFect99]

You only got 7k subs??? We have to get this up to at least 10k

[@drvofoka7033]

I lol'd at the fact you called all girls best girl except for Ohya.

[@The_Red_Scare]

Idea: Can you beat P5R without the hide mechanic? This means that you can't use prompts to jump into hide spots that make you invisible to all enemies. You're allowed to use the thief assist tools, so smokescreens are fine, and you can manually "hide" by putting a barrier between yourself and a shadows FOV so long as you don't use the actual hide button to become invisible, ambush, steal, or hop to different spots. I assume OHYA and Ryuji (instakill) will be very useful for the challenge.

[@mew2871]

honestly this is just inconvenient i’m sure it’s possible

[@lunathetrip3241]

i feel like that'd be too easy. might be tedious, but you'd be able to beat the game for sure.

[@buncythefrog]

I just started doing this by default near the end of my last playthrough. Just hung back and rushed them when they turned around. I found the hiding mechanic too clunky to do anything precise in after a while.

[@blitzcha0s308]

That's still very easy. I can hardly call it a challenge, since I can just unlock Ryuji's insta kill skill and just over level to the point where I can one shot everything in the game besides bosses.

[@ImNotDragoon]

Ohya is literally useless in Royal since the security meter doesn't kick you out at 100% how is she importsnt

[@DVD-dc9rj]

now try this with P3 lmao

[@madbrosheo1514]

I like how you have a level cap for each dungeon. It’s way too easy to overlevel in persona games, especially Royal.

[@14g0t7]

to be fair, you sort of have to try to be overleveled by grinding

[@Mr-Trox]

​@@14g0t7 Instakill makes it really easy to hit 99 in Royal.

[@Yami_Industries]

dude I love these kinds of videos and would be willing to watch through the entire nuzlocke but after playing through p5 regular on the ps4 after watching trailers and letsplays of it and being like meh after the fact I wish to play through p5r without spoilers about what is extra added into p5r compared to p5 because of the story being much more complex and less predictable than your average pokemon game I will like the video and sub and put this in my watch later playlist for when I eventually beat p5r because this game needs to be experienced first hand and I don't want to take that away from myself but want to enjoy the experiences others do and how they make the game harder on themselves

[@zeKotako]

Funny enough the only death is actually canon

[@Vinn_Tree]

I didnt skip the fact you said best girl was the teacher

[@synth3441]

Very smart to call all the girls best girl to not anger there fans.

[@catalyst539]

Except Ohya of course.

[@blushchuu]

There are Ohya fans out there... you just can't find them

[@Clover4luck]

​@@blushchuuof course you can't, they don’t exist

[@bobthegamingtaco6073]

​@@catalyst539 ohya fans know they chose worst girl. It's just a fact

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Is all this Ohya hate just because her confidant skills are nearly worthless?

[@syamelkiller5804]

I like that you say best girl to everyone except ohya

[@TheatreKiller]

Great stuff man

[@stale2665]

I feel like P5 Royal has a serious power creep from vanilla P5. Would this challenge have been harder in the regular version of the game?

[@seanmacguire3324]

I can imagine the Okumara fight would be a nightmare lol

[@pre-violetmelain2984]

Not that different, i only have played the vanilla version and was pretty easy

[@fruitpunchsamuraidavid]

This was so much fun! Think you can do this with SMT V?

[@mistahjenkins4826]

In order to make things a bit easier, I would honestly suggest- for those wanting to try this challenge themselves- to instead limit it to 1 Persona per MAP rather than 1 Persona per PALACE. That would mean less risk of wiping nigh immediately, but would also mean you at least have something of a reserve. This of course would also extend to Mementos, with one layer equaling one Persona.

[@dylanh8163]

Layer like named layer, or numbered floor?

[@darkmatterpancake]

shiki-ouji getting picked for madarame makes me happy :)

[@TheFinalChapters]

1:03:45 Used Akechi for the showtime even though he's dead. Run invalid. Run it back on merciless :)

[@jorgexd8385]

Schizofrenia:

[@terransullivan5335]

Dude I’ve been thinking about doing this for like a month!

[@Summer_and_Rain]

Haru's dad fight took me over 2 hours to beat and I was on easy difficulty! My main issue was that I had not leveled up my baton pass at all and I had no backup save, so I just had to continue trying to get through... it was so painful!

[@jonathynmurray4890]

And finally the SMT nuzlockes shall become a full fledged challenge

[@Devisnull]

I actually did a run similar to this a year back. I did use fusions so this run is harder but damn is this a fun challenge to do

[@benabaxter]

I was able to do this on my first playthrough by telling Igor I didn't agree to his contract.

[@infiniteworld3981]

3:32 Nah, you did NOT do that!!! 😭😭😭

[@o1theunknown]

Futaba with the absolute CLUTCH at Sai

[@Lobotomy11037]

Shikiuchi was my GOAT in persona 5 not royal, so I’m sad I missed out on getting him early in Royal but it’s fine, he’s still cool in my book

[@nosleepforme2242]

This was pretty great though I’m still waiting to see someone do it without items.

[@vince8901]

now i really wanna try this challenge for myself, it looks really cool so far

[@MDCXCIIx]

love everyone being best girl. all my friends had sure fire answers but it's always a toss up for me

[@yeetdoggo07]

Man watching this video just makes me want to see an smt nuzlocke run

[@s0urp0wer5]

Damn no fusion or compendium sounds super hard. Thats also my personal favorite part of the game so idk if i could do this lol

[@sarko5989]

I think that if, for whatever god forsaken reason, you decided to do this run again, you should allow persona fusions. I think it would allow for a greater degree of strategy. Maybe there should be some restriction, like, if you fuse a persona for the palace, then that counts as catching one, or something.

[@joschuafieguth9151]

Thanks man I learned a lot

[@zlennii]

peak cinema is back

[@mkloven101]

I have over 250 hours in p5r and i haven’t played it in about 2 years. Now i want to replay it after i’m done with p3r.

[@Mufflin]

one persona per floor sounds waaay better.

[@codywhite6337]

Loved the video!

[@SMCheshire]

After i saw you do did this i did my own nuzlocke and i did it and crown is still alive