Can you beat Pokemon Platinum without using moves?

[@GrimmShane]

This run is truly the proof that shouting "Shut up, I have MONEY" is a viable way to reach the Hall of Fame and kill a godhead

[@DaveyGunface]

You don't get to be the Pokemon League Champion without knowing how to spam full restores, or in this case Fresh Water

[@johndavid1611]

Haha Pokemon golder red I love it

[@kevinmorad2563]

​@@DaveyGunface if you were to win like I did in BDSP it was hard! I remember being 70+ and 1-2 80+ members and guess what I had one Pokémon left on Cynthia, I used it as bait to revive which was my last revive max revive Dialga yes? after a few resets Garchomp uses that one dragon type move I think it's dragon rush or earthquake well guess what it legit wiped me out 3-4 times but this time I lived in the red and one shotted it with dragon pulse if I remember because I was out of roar of time and got the win. but it was so awful I had to grind in the elite for around an hour or two. XD

[@s.l.r.9407]

Ah, yes. The Kaiba strategy.

[@enricofischer1330]

Those pokemon are now adicts

[@ActualCatfish]

That premier ball, after having been thrown 12,708 times "I'm tired, boss"

[@rifttogo7108]

Constantly throwing the Master Ball at every trainer is such a power move

[@giuseppevgiordano]

While on pokemon attacks the other the 2 trainers are basically playing volleyball

[@justanothercommenterwithan9089]

gotta love davey showing us that you truly can't become champion of the pokemon league without spamming full restores

[@soulxria]

Goated ref

[@underrated1524]

Fun fact: You didn't have to kill Giratina - running away from Giratina allows you to progress the story. Cyrus even has unique dialogue for that situation.

[@denis2381]

GayAnalDildo

[@guiguipop3658]

@@denis2381 poggers, I have one too!

[@denis2381]

@@guiguipop3658 StretchingButthole

[@pokemonduck]

@@denis2381 meds

[@denis2381]

@@pokemonduck stop harassing me

[@boredhuman6512]

Monotone voice and random tangent about lord of the rings really gives you the full experience of watching work of a man who lost everything

[@user-he6wh3gl6n]

"I really like this pokemon but it's movepool is garbage. " Don't worry, I have a solution.

[@matticusthegreen6725]

Wow can't wait to try this recipe at home! Looks really good! Love the work with the grilling!

[@joejoemyo]

Seeing this as the top comment on a Pokémon challenge video... It scares me

[@monsterberger7728]

?!?!?!?

[@splendiferous_spaghetti]

The fact that I read this during an ad with someone grilling adds to the experience

[@justanoreo3928]

Fun fact: If pokemon can't you moves, they can't commit any war crimes.

[@SnakebitSTI]

Counterpoint: Weather manipulation abilities like Snow Warning.

[@Reece8u]

Giritina could have been a great pressure stall for any pokemon unaffected by snow warning and sandstorm, too bad you already passed the only one lol

[@DaveyGunface]

To be fair I think the only Pokemon we fight that had that quality is Mamoswine. I know there's a few abilities but I actually don't think we actually encounter any of those in this run.

[@Reece8u]

@@DaveyGunface Mamoswine was the one I was referring to lol, so yeah I agree

[@amazehub3644]

Revisited your war crime videos and come to find this masterpiece

[@ironicallypineapple]

The concept is intimidating but the fact you get access to intimidate and poison point very early makes Sinnoh a great region to do this

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

So, from the start, as long as you have a Snow Warning pokemon and a pokemon with Sandstorm for an ability, it's possible to beat everything sans a Mamoswine or something of the like... So from there you can Rocky Helmet or Rough Skin or something idk. It would be hard to start it off but you can spam out turns with berries and get working for the win.

[@melonmelon8241]

rocky helmet is gen 5. only carvanha and sharpedo had rough skin in gen 4.

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

@@melonmelon8241 Oh. Oh boy.

[@DaveyGunface]

@@kirbyfreakyt4695 Yeah in Gen 3 I had a lot of problems with Pokemon abilities. Sharpedo being my only rough skin Pokemon, Magcargo being my only Flame Body Pokemon and Roserade/Seadra being my only Poison Point made that run a lot more fucky. Generally from Gens 2-5 (6+ are actually painfully easy in almost every conceivable aspect), 4 is by far the easiest in collecting actually good Pokemon.

[@ZachCremisiSky]

@@melonmelon8241 sharpefo with rough skin is gen 3.

[@melonmelon8241]

@@ZachCremisiSky huuh.

[@leopardbunny]

In fairness to Giratina, it wouldn't be a terrible option to have as a backup. Its defenses are utterly titanic, referred to as the Great Wall for at least two whole generations, and Pressure would effectively double the speed at which you PP stall. Worth noting since it doesn't require contact and most late game moves have low PP.

[@artificial844]

First, also this makes my day. Also I love your monotone commentary it adds so much personality to the video! I just found out editing the comment removed the heart LOL

[@Chokblaar]

kek

[@DaveyGunface]

Yeah KZbin is kinda annoying with editing. It does that with pinned comments too. Like don't get me wrong I'm glad that it's a feature because we don't need a genuine comment to get pinned and then edited with copious amounts of slurs or whatever, but when I make a pinned comment going "hey look at this" and make a minor spelling mistake and have to edit it out my patience runs thin

[@justaperson8381]

Always a joy to see you upload

[@jakkuu]

This video needs more views. Like seriously, keep up the fantastic work man!

[@dwanedibly8129]

Loved this video! It was a little surreal to listen to you talk about how you passed the time spent grinding, since I'm watching this while grinding up my team in my Nuzlocke of Platinum (look - Fantina's Gym didn't go as planned).

[@fireflystudios123]

I cannot tell you how LONG it took me to figure out how you were going to win battles until I remembered struggle. I cannot explain myself, the amount of brain cells I seem to have lost recently is kind of terrfying me

[@isuckatgaming1873]

Ive never thought about a run like this Of course, it seems like a total pain

[@nbkarkat]

this vid deserves so many more views considering the time you spent for this challenge

[@765craven4]

Loved the run. I do think it would have been a great idea to sub out one of the Luxrays for a Gyarados though. Typing and bulk with Intimidate would have been very handy for swaps and stuff, probably would've made Bertha a touch easier.

[@DaveyGunface]

The problem is Gyarados has so much more weaknesses and the addition of a very prevalent 4x weakness, a lot of which are special moves. Compared to the much rarer special ground moves it’s just not worth it, you’d be trading off a weakness for one that’s so much worse it’d pretty much constantly result in one turn kills

[@765craven4]

@@DaveyGunface I see your point. I haven't done the challenge myself, so I can't say for sure how much more viable it would have been. Main reason I suggested it is because the Ground immunity would be handy for Intimidate swapping, especially with your Luxrays. And Gyarados is bulkier and has more resists than a Staraptor, which is the only other Flying Intimidate Mon in Sinnoh iirc.

[@DaveyGunface]

It would definitely be viable and in retrospect I should have prooobably swapped the second Luxray for a different wall, but honestly I just think comparatively Staraptor and Gyarados just struggle on the last gauntlets in particular. Probably would've actually been better off just getting a really decent wall or even Giratina for pressure tbh.

[@765craven4]

@@DaveyGunface Yeah, if you ended up PP stalling a lot some defensive Pressure Pokemon like Giratina could've been quite useful. For Intimidate strats I would typically say having two and pivoting between them is generally the best bet, and Luxray+Gyarados is a fairly good setup for that purpose, but I definitely see your point with Gyarados not being super useful for a lot of the E4 and Champ (though Gyarados could be good to setup with X Items for Flint and Bertha unless one of them has an Electric move I'm not aware of). Still, the Poison Point/Flame Body strat was probably your best bet for a lot of the end game fights outside of the Pokemon that they couldn't be used against, where a defensive Pressure Mon like Giratina would be very helpful. Though the weather strats probably would be preferable to preserve your sanity.

[@WoobertAIO]

33:33 Fun fact - I don't know if it's a bug or something, but in every emulator I've tried, when you load a savestate, DS Pokemon games don't reset their ai behavior nor the ocurrence of something that happened immediately after the savestate. This means that, for example, if you use a savestate before throwing a pokeball, and you don't catch the pokemon, whenever you load that savestate and try again you will never be able to catch it (and viceversa). It's the same with critical hits. If you use a savestate before attacking, and the next attack comes out as a crit, that attack will always crit when you load that savestate, and viceversa.

[@leaffinite2001]

Is that not the case in most games? Save states literally freeze the games state, including whatever factors are used to determine rng

[@rocketpoweredgun2950]

The RNG seed is not reset, so the same actions will produce identical results.

[@sampfrost]

figured this would be a run entirely made of struggle since it’s technically not a move

[@centurosproductions8827]

The thing is, *you* can't use Struggle, because getting to it requires you using up your Moves.

[@featheredaurora7102]

I was introduced to your channel by a good friend of mine. I love your content and am always happy to watch. Thanks for what you do, and please keep it up

[@Chokblaar]

I've never played pokemon before so as far as I'm concerned this is just how it is.

[@bluevern904]

My favorite part of the video has to be the pile of Shinx in the team preview, every time I looked at it I couldn’t avoid to smile

[@borggeronimo7285]

These challenges are getting too insane. Next someone is going to beat pokemon without any pokemon.

[@SnakebitSTI]

Maybe a TAS?

[@firecult1]

Ugh he finds more shinies in a challenge run where hes ignoring wild pokemon that I have found in 20 years of playing the games

[@gabrielgirao2691]

Bruh I have hundreds of hours on pokemon games and I've never encountered a wild shiny (except in the wormholes in USUM)

[@flapjacki9579]

You call it a "backtrack fest", I call it "the way I used to play Pokemon as a kid"

[@Princetopher_]

this is an amazing challenge oml good stuff man

[@rajkanishu]

babe wake up new davey descent into madness dropped

[@SleepySeal121]

That’s a good question. Where IS Tom Bombadil?! We were robbed!

[@purplehaze2358]

"The Pokemon game series is a series that has Pokemon." I'm sure the materials that make up your house are house, as well.

[@StarshadowMelody]

"shinx" **instantly squeals and startles the cat that is currently forced to reside in my lap**

[@VaddyLemon]

Tom was in the movies but they couldn’t see him because he’s the master and his feet are faster. The camera man couldn’t keep up.

[@reviewbooth8686]

I did this in Sword and Shield, and there’s a lot more options at your disposal earlier (snover, ferroseed, rosella, etc). There’s also a lot of cool strategies you can implement with held items, like using lagging tail to make your weather come out second and whatnot. If you feel like putting yourself through hell again, I’d highly recommend doing it in Sw/Sh

[@DaveyGunface]

Yeah generally I don't want to touch 6/7/8 because the amount of Pokemon, abilities, items and ways to get money is so much higher that it's almost not even comparable. Specifically the part that tips it over the edge of "yeah this isn't too interesting" is how easy it is to infinitely farm money in those games (in Gen 6 I can literally get 3,000 dollars a minute with Citras speed-up), EXP Share, AND early game grinding is pointless since you can just catch Pokemon for experience.

[@reviewbooth8686]

@@DaveyGunface oh agreed, especially on the money part. I tried to run it so anything out of bag in battle other than pokeballs weren’t allowed so you could just potion spam. Abilities like regenerator is OP when items are involved, but without infinite potion stalling it was fun. Regardless, love the vid and the strats you used. Keep up the content!

[@kayleighlehrman9566]

As a lifelong Kansas resident, you nailed all the key aspects of our state

[@digitalduken9973]

Imagine being the gym leaders and having a guy come in and constantly not do anything but let you hit his pokemon over and over while he constantly throws pokeballs at your own pokemon that you have to swat away like a ping pong player, only to lose to poison damage, and afterwards act like nothing wrong happened and say it was an honorable and close match.

[@exi_m7074]

This could maybe possibly be mildly more possible in Gen 6 or a later generation due to the fact that your Pokémon can level up from catching, so that’s a fun tidbit of info. Not gonna test that myself though.

[@DaveyGunface]

Gen 6 and 7 are actually so easy that I don't even want to do a video on them, despite it being free and easy content. With a surprisingly effect infinite money grind with super training, the ability to also max out your Pokemons defensive EVs exceptionally quickly, the ability to spam catch Pokemon for EXP, the EXP share, the sheer abundance of Pokemon and the abundance of Pokemon gaining damaging abilities (ala, more and more Pokemon gaining weather abilities)... Yeah it's trivial. Plus it's not like Gen 6 was remarkably difficult, and Gen 7 was a snoozefest.

[@biggyblunts5788]

Davey beating pokemon platinum without using any moves makes me moist

[@darkunicorn1748]

Giratina was actually a good pickup for Pressure+bulk though 😞 Would actually have helped for pp stalling instead of a second Luxray or something

[@DaveyGunface]

That implies we PP Stall though, the only use it would have is maybe thinning out specific moves which is a decent-ish usage, but not the best. Do agree second Luxray may have been replaced though.

[@nileprimewastaken]

*is level 50 against a level 60 team* this was the hardest gauntlet ever, but im glad i made it through because the alternative was overleveling you mean not underleveling?

[@INTRUDIC_H0ST]

Damn, he found a shiny without even needing to farm for it

[@rajkanishu]

two* 💀

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Given the amount of encounters he did, its no surprise

[@DaveyGunface]

Honestly it was actually a pretty low level of encounters. If anything I'm shocked it's the two encounters I did while getting to something more important rather then the literal hundreds if not thousands of encounters and double battle encounters with pickup grinding and the duo trainers.

[@xflame7556]

I'm thinking, would using a mon with Sand Veil/Snow cloak have helped?

[@decayluvr]

this is a special kind of hell to put yourself through, good job!

[@melodywawichi802]

Would buying Energy Roots for the Elite Four be better than buying Fresh Waters? They have the same PokeDollar-to-HP Recover ratio but Energy Roots heal 200 HP...

[@MkiSaskTheGlumpSod]

Man he really does sound like mitten squad putting on a deeper voice

[@dianauwu1312]

I love the image of a trainer with one tiny penguin and a horde of very scary kittens.

[@FireallyXTheories]

I see what you did there with Dawn Also finally someone that did a challenge run that remembered Xitems exist

[@scarlettffever7562]

How… how did he get through the mandatory trainers on route 1? He said they might be problematic, and then got to jubilife in 18 apparently?

[@DaveyGunface]

Struggle stalling, waiting until the opponent uses every move until it inevitably kills itself

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Man, Seeing how much you like to suffer with these, you should try and complete a Pikasprey soft lock picking

[@tannerray5014]

Funnily enough, I picked up an Audible account a few months ago specifically to make driving through Kansas more bearable. It is the perfect way to pass time on the highway.

[@crystalking2468]

Listening to Lord of The Rings to pass time is honestly a great idea seeing how the entire extended trilogy takes 12 hours to watch in a cinema ive been there

[@cobaltshrew2732]

yes, its here ! I'm more hyped than i ever was for anything !

[@wil.entity]

I appreciate these consist uploads :)

[@elphaadmystic-solislunaris8542]

18:20 Me. A college student. Sitting on my couch eating Ramen noodles.

[@ninnghhizziddha]

FINALLY a poke tuber who isn't completely censored and kid friendly

[@Ikxi]

I see Shinx in the video. Already a great video.

[@InnesTahtinen]

I'm so proud of him, getting paid by Amazon, great job!

[@Kralich]

Here comes the Gantrithor!

[@arcturus64]

piplup's name sounds like something that would crash into the overmind.

[@turtlememes2334]

Lol

[@raindown6702]

the complete lack of enthusiasm matches the gameplay so well

[@dunbrevur8185]

“The Pokémon series is a series that has Pokémon” wise words

[@youtubecomments2740]

I love what you named the victory road floatzel.

[@Synchro-tq1mo]

Damn one of the most painfull pokemon challenges i ve seen

[@myramedchan4775]

I'm probably not the only one to suggest this but the starly line gets intimate and immunity to ground so it could have helped alot

[@DaveyGunface]

It could have, however in the late game it just gets absolutely fucking shredded. In the last 3 gyms literally every single Gym Leader Pokemon knows a super effective move against it. Similarly in the Pokemon League comparatively the amount of Pokemon who know ground type moves compared to Ice/Electric/Rock is actually still in favor of Luxray because even Bertha, the ground type elite four member, has 4/5 of her Pokemon with those moves. The flying type really just doesn't have a good time

[@myramedchan4775]

@@DaveyGunface that is where baiting comes into play. Swapping between luxury and staraptor encourages the ai to go for the super effective hit but miss both.

[@caseyleenb]

another option for lucian would’ve been to replace a luxray for a blissey, or gyrados. their better special bulk would’ve been useful. excellent vid though!

[@severren1095]

Being able to switch between 2 intimidate users back to back can really deal with the hard hitting physical attackers.

[@TheBlueWizzrobe]

@@severren1095 True, but just having one still gives you a decent enough safety net that it's probably worth the trade-off. It's better to have okay-ish answers for both special and physical attackers than have a really good answer to physical attackers but NO answer to special attackers. ...or at least that's what I would have said if Garchomp didn't exist.

[@severren1095]

That's one of the reasons I use Luxray and Starraptor. THAT GARCHOMP

[@DaveyGunface]

To kinda copy and paste what I said in another comment, Staraptor kind of just doesn't get to exist late game. Not only do the last 3 gyms completely counter it, but even with an entire ground type elite four member Electric still has an advantage over the flying type overall, with the only exception being predictably Cynthia, and even then it's relatively close. Actually pretty sure even Bertha has more super effective moves against Flying then fucking Electric.

[@prof.reuniclus21]

@@DaveyGunface Yup! 5 moves super effective against electric, 6 moves super effective against flying. Earth Power, Earthquake, Earthquake, Earthquake, Earthquake. As opposed to Ice Fang, Thunder Fang, Stone Edge, Thunder Punch, Rock Wrecker, Avalanche.

[@J3Puffin]

…My God, this is legendary

[@JumpinJew]

Sees Roark Me: oh look it's Roark every poketuber ever: "ROH-ark"

[@DarkPluggGodOfEvil]

was half asleep watching this cheers

[@eatan4682]

This is an awesome run man. Congrats!

[@avoiceofreason7]

D- dude? Why did you not use the underground?

[@McNeal22]

That eterna forest right at the beginning is chilling

[@nyx7694]

Perfect as I'm trying to go to bed at 5am

[@taiwanisacountry]

Ramen noodles? Eggs is the real poor food. Eggs, rice and a loaf of bread. A loaf of bread and 6 eggs can last you several days. 1 cup noodle does not last long to be honest. I am a college student, I am taking care of my unemployed wife, we just moved to Sweden, and I am fine, but I am also from Denmark, so I do not pay for university, and I am getting supported with 2000$ a month, for free. I wrote a thesis about LOTR with offset in the movies and the books, all the books. It was a long process. I was not even a LOTR fan.

[@kyaban5192]

Naming the Shinx "Pubbi" in the honor of Pubbi the Manetric? Is that what's happening here??

[@DaveyGunface]

I think there was an attempt

[@kyaban5192]

@@DaveyGunface I'm actually surprised that I remember Pubbi. They never really reached their full potential, so how the hell could I really remember?

[@DaveyGunface]

Honestly I think it was just because I had so much hope for so many Pokemon and a lot of them just died out way too quickly or didn't stick around long enough for their true potential to be shown. Lots of tragedy

[@RGC_animation]

So glad you decided to rescue the ill Zubat. Because normal Zubat aren't green. But then again, ill Zubats are weak because they're ill, so next time, maybe don't rescue ill Zubats.

[@cyberdragonzekrom6790]

Jesus, now that's a Pokemon challenge.

[@WhopsInc.]

First 5 seconds: Revolutionary

[@definitelysomeone6131]

As someone who lives in Kansas. Everything said was true.

[@DKforever24]

Approximately how many viewings of the LotR Extended trilogy did it take to complete this challenge? I'm asking because as a fellow American, it is our sworn duty to use anything else other than standard units for measuring things.

[@DaveyGunface]

Approximately a little under 2 and a half movies, so not quite a full one, but still a lot of Lord of the Rings.

[@funnycat9962]

Why is his voice halfway between Mitten Squad and Imported Cheese

[@thekhoifish0146]

As someone who started playing Platinum on the emulator a few weeks ago, God help me

[@wigglytuffenjoyer]

Not gonna lie I’ve never double taked harder at a video title and thumbnail

[@IsLeafOn]

babe wake up, davey dropped yet another banger !!!

[@coreypunch424]

Always good to see!

[@fatcats7727]

ur channel is gonna blow up btw

[@my_name_is_J_777]

the zoobat bit was really funny

[@LorGue0]

Keep up the good content

[@Ari.1460]

I feel like catching a blissey wouldve been helpful for special mons, no?

[@luckpup2766]

Amazing video, as usual.

[@blackscreen2319]

What about the starly in the beginning of the game and the rival battle

[@FearTheCaboose1337]

I appreciate the love for ol' Tom bombadil

[@focus1809]

Isn't the vs. Seeker available for easy money

[@ODISeth]

Kansas is amazing to drive through except for Topeka. Fuck driving through Topeka

[@DaveyGunface]

I am still forever thankful I have absolutely no reason to ever go to Topeka and instead live in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere.

[@ODISeth]

@@DaveyGunface Work and school brought me to hella east Kansas and I regret moving out here. I miss when the largest city I’d ever drive through was like Hutchinson or somethin

[@DaveyGunface]

​@@ODISeth The one time I drove through Hutchinson was to meet up with some one to go to the state fair and that was probably up there with one of the worst possible days to try and drive through Hutchinson. Drive to Wichita constantly though and although the inside of the city spikes my anxiety to oblivion, for the most part it's alright.

[@ODISeth]

@@DaveyGunface Yeahhh I try to avoid travel around state fair time in general. All the roads are hectic, and there’s a ton of pollen too

[@DaveyGunface]

@@ODISeth Allergy gang unite. And yeah honestly despite what my videos would probably portray I'm a pretty laid back and easy going guy, no depression, anxiety or anything like that. However when I drive in super packed places and I'M the person who has to take initiative because I'm the first at a light my heart rate reaches a solid and healthy 4 digit BPM.

[@TheBigCal]

Gotta love the ezio movement

[@WoobertAIO]

40:30 Can you beat Starcraft 2 with an Xbox Controller? WELL CAN YOU DAVEY?!

[@DaveyGunface]

It's not just Xbox Controller, but Xbox Controller upgradeless It's awful

[@WoobertAIO]

@@DaveyGunface what did you do to yourself to deserve such treatment

[@DaveyGunface]

I dunno, but All In is pain.

[@beeorsomething2230]

fellow lord of the rings extended watcher, my man

[@chopperbrosadvance9760]

The pokemon showdown experience