Can You Beat Skyrim WITHOUT Breaking The Ten Commandments?

[@backfisch773]

Technically, with the draugr deceased, if there is no one to claim the inheritance, the property will go over to the state. In this case the Jarl of Whiterun, since Bleakfalls lies within his administration. Set Jarl gave you explicit permission to retrieve the stone. And as the draugr can’t make a legal claim to property, once deceased, even his „resurrection“ wouldn’t restore ownership. So you’re fully within your right to take the dragonstone.

[@kabob0077]

Plus, we can also argue that the draugr, being a corpse reanimated by magic, is an abomination unto God and killing it is doing God's Will and removing an abomination from the world.

[@ArcAngle1117]

Except those are family crypts, people's ancestors are buried there. There's actually a quest where you help someone clear out their family crypt and he complains about you stealing his family's stuff(Although the game doesn't consider it stealing)

[@killianramsey4805]

Additionally, it's possible to consider this archeology, which I don't believe is considered stealing

[@NaughtiusMaximmus]

@@killianramsey4805 now this makes me wonder if archeology could be considered some sort of organized crime

[@JosephSmith-lm4ri]

@@NaughtiusMaximmus depends on what angle you look at it from.

[@idontknoq4813]

"The command says thou shalt not kill, it does not say thou shalt not beat the living crap out of someone" ah, yes, just as the founding fathers intended.

[@rockerattribute]

FOUR RUFFIANS BREAK INTO MY HOUSE, "WHAT THE DEVIL?" AS I PULL OUT MY POWDERED WIG AND KENTUCKY RIFLE. I BLOW A GOLF BALL SIZED HOLE THROUGH THE FIRST MAN, HE'S DEAD ON THE SPOT, DRAW MY PISTOL ON THE SECOND MAN, MISSES HIM ENTIRELY BECAUSE ITS SMOOTHBORE AND NAILS THE NEIGHBOR'S DOG. I HAVE TO RESORT TO THE CANNON MOUNTED AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS LOADED WITH GRAPE SHOT, "TALLY HO, LADS!" GRAPE SHOT SHREDS 2 MEN IN THE BLAST, THE SOUND AND EXTRA SHRAPNEL SET OFF CAR ALARMS. FIX THE BAYONET AND CHARGE THE LAST TERRIFIED RAPSCALLION, BLEEDS OUT WAITING FOR THE POLICE TO ARRIVE BECAUSE TRIANGULAR BAYONET WOUNDS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO STITCH UP. Just as the founding fathers intended.

[@beecherry3943]

,,,, I mean they were p into beating their slaves to almost but not quite death so like ,,, ur not wrong 😬

[@nathaniel5157]

I would have used the dragonsreach afk into a pillar for that sneak level, but bludgeoning a greybeard is technically grey area so...

[@maninthecamohat2735]

"You were talking a little crazy earlier I had to put my hands on you. I guess you forgot that Christian don't make me soft and this Bible don't make me sweet we're from the South side of heaven. Now get on up let's get a Gatorade."

[@Софија-крафт]

@@beecherry3943 what Jews freed their slaves every 7 yrs

[@namae6637]

I would consider Hadvar telling you to take the gear from the chest not to be stealing. As far as the Dragonborn is concerned, in that moment Hadvar is the highest ranking officer currently alive and thus holds the authority to delegate the empire’s munitions as he sees fit. He has acting authority and can authorise the provision of armour from the warden’s armour chest, after all it’s the empire’s armour.

[@fruitsnacks155]

this is a great point.

[@buzzsawwyrm1595]

Excellent point

[@rustyjones7908]

Yeah, it wasn't the soldier's gear, it was the empire/stormcloak's gear

[@Techhunter_Talon]

Plus he's doing his best to protect a civilian, even though they were a criminal about to sentenced to the chopping block for execution. Granted, he does recognize that executing you would have been wrong and likely wasn't a suiting punishment for your possible crime of illegal border hopping. Also, of course, wearing Stormcloak or Imperial gear realistically might cause further trouble but that could be circumvented by just switching back to your rags and ditching the gear once out of the cave.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And the same with Ralof. They might be rebels, but he gives the Dragonborn explicit permission to take the gear from his brother-in-arms. Both of you make it out alive, so the Dragonborn could just return the stuff on the next possible occasion. If you leave the stuff there, it will either be destroyed or falls into the enemy's hands. So borrowing the stuff feels closer to the rules than leaving it there. Obviously you take it off once out of the situation, wash it (just dip it in a river), and then return it to the rightful owner (throw it at Ulfric or Tullius).

[@stellaflowers301]

If you talk to the Greybeards after beating Alduin, they make it clear that Alduin isn't dead, just banished. You could use that as an argument to say you still haven't killed anything by the end of the game

[@kudzufarmer5431]

The only comment I was looking for.

[@BrodyKramer]

No they do not, they state that they are unsure if he is dead or not. A lot of ambiguity

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@BrodyKramer Paarthanax however does explicitly state this.

[@thegingerbreadmaninyouroven]

He's dead, think of it as a rebirth. Like a phoenix, it dies but comes back virtually the same. So honestly its kinda grey area. Plus its for a good cause though. I think it's in the green

[@joshclark756]

im pretty sure the ten commandments inly stops you from killing people

[@maninthecamohat2735]

When your mom says you can play the game as long as you don't do anything against our religion in it:

[@EnderGoku9001]

meanwhile doom players contemplating if they can kill

[@Galaxy-rj1kj]

@@EnderGoku9001 i mean its demons so ofc?

[@EnderGoku9001]

@@Galaxy-rj1kj interacting with demons tho

[@JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms]

@@EnderGoku9001 don't we kill angel in doom eternal?

[@hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148]

@@JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms they're fallen angels which is a fancy word for demons

[@ClaireNighten]

"I'm sorry saint peter, I took the dragon stone." "Taking a rock from a homicidal zombie isn't what I'm worried about. I'm more concerned about how you shoved someone out from cover into the line of fire of a dragon later that day."

[@ParadigmShiftInc]

20:09 Bruh that’s Berserk levels of trauma. Imagine fighting powerful demonic enemies, deep down in the depths of a long forgotten tomb, only for your best friend to appear out of nowhere to save you in your moments of most need, only for him to be murdered in front of you then brought back to life by a witch, you’re then forced to fight and kill him again, while the guy who brought you down there to begin with, is hiding behind a rock, just watching.

[@alessandropereira4976]

And laughing

[@kameronkrazy1092]

Was like a wwe Scene when dude came down stairs

[@thehunter_3414]

GRITHIIIIIIIIIIIITHH

[@Maukustus]

villain backstory

[@gryphonprovenzano3156]

This I like

[@the_soggster3464]

imagine some mom googling "is skyrim Christian safe for my kid?" and then she gets reccomend this video lmao

[@ProtomanWasTaken]

Dude dances around all religions in the opening rules and covers all his bases in a completely intense and flawless way. I'm impressed!!!

[@cailemkostiuk377]

Hadvar is an imperial officer so is allowed to let you use imperial equipment, therefore the chest is fine.

[@thorhollingsworth4415]

I don't think he's an officer when he lets you take from the Legion.

[@overlorddante]

My thoughts exactly.

[@nordvestgaming1238]

@@thorhollingsworth4415 True, but at that moment he is the commanding figure, considering he is the only Imperial soldier present in the room. So I would argue it is still okay since you were explicitly told to take the items by someone who has the authority to give permission to take said items.

[@VannahSavage]

He's also the better choice when it comes to early game finances, as his uncle is the Riverwood blacksmith and will let you take the (respawning) ingots from his forge when you follow Hadvar. Considering he also tells you to "help yourself to whatever you need, within reason", and that the weapons and armor near his forge are still off-limits, I would think the ingots count the same as the supplies you can take from him initially.

[@michael9433]

@@thorhollingsworth4415 Still the highest ranking imperial representative

[@jaredwishart3403]

You know, technically you can look at killing Alduin in more than one way. In a way, he's a false god in and of himself. So defeating him could be considered akin to destroying an idol or graven image. Plus, it's ambiguous as to if he actually does, or is merely banished until a later time. Great video!

[@jaredwishart3403]

*dies

[@ovidiufarcau243]

Agree here and also any daedric quest that you want to do to foil the deadra request could also be consider into this topic: I am thinking here of Clavicus vile and saving Barbas ! vermina`s quest, to get Erandur. category

[@folksyoxytocin]

He is a God, pretty sure he doesn't actually die since you don't absorb his soul like you do other dragons

[@ferea_896]

He is actually destroyed for good In the lore the dragonborn is the one who destroys him for good He was banished before by the three heroes. Then he returned and the dragonborn destroyed him

[@Kjalarrr]

@@ferea_896 It's debatable if he was destroyed, since technically Alduin is Akatosh/Auriel. Really a dragonborn is a chosen of Akatosh that's required to defeat a manifestation/interpretation of himself that wasn't doing it's job of factory resetting the world. Lol

[@patrickbuckley7259]

As someone who usually tries to play this game as a good guy, I can attest to how hard it is not to get caught in a scenario where you need to do something messed up just to progress. So I can only imagine how hard this is.

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

It's annoying how many "good" actions add some kind of criminal record (eg trespassing, stealing, or assault) that force your Divine Crusader wearing hero to go on a journey of penance 😔

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@LibraritheWizardOfficial If it where only that it would not be so bad. There are so many quests you can get where you have to do blatantly evil things, like murder innocence to complete them. One outright baits you with the prospect of helping a Vigilant of Stendarr fight Daeda. Only to give you a really linier Daedric quest. So at best you end up with a list of uncompleted quests, or worse you end up in a situation where you literally cannot move forward without doing something your character would never do.

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

@@patrickbuckley7259 Yep the Daedric quests are just really awful. They wouldn't be half as bad if they didn't railroad you.

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@LibraritheWizardOfficial The Star of Azura and the Skull of Corruption are both solid. Both give you options. A Night To Remember isn't too bad, as if your character is a tea-totaled you won't take it, and I think the drinking contest is only a bullet point quest. A couple of the others at least give you options, but don't give you an option to completely rebuke the Daedra. Hircine's and Clavicus Vile's quests for example. Neither of which have the delema associated with Azura's Star (Which actually presents an interesting conundrum for a holy crusader.) Nocturnal is locked behind the thieves guild so it's not obstructive, though they try to force you to do the Thieves Guild quest line itself. Mehrunes Dagon's at least let's you do the right thing, but it's just really boring. A lot of the others are just annoying. Meridia gives you a great sword, and she's chill, but most crusaders in universe are not going to see her as a good entity, and her quest is still very linear, and kind of unavoidable, unless you want to put up with pure annoyance. Molag Bal's quest-line made me reboot a run. I was hoping at the end I could do something to spite the prince, but no dice. It literally baits you. Hermaeus Mora's being tied up in the main quest line combined with him being all "I own you" skyrocketed him from being my least favorite Deadric Prince to an entity I absolutely loath, and not in a love to hate kinda wa like Clavicus VIle. Then they force you to become a werewolf in the Champions quest-line. The factional quest line a Crusader style character is most likely to do in the absence of a Religious Faction (Which stings as the Vigilant of Stendarr are right there, then we get these watered down edgelords in Dawnguard). Then you slaughter werewolf hunters on the behalf of werewolves... It get's excessive. Sorry for the wall of text... I am actually stressed right now and getting to nerd out was actually really cathartic.

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

@@patrickbuckley7259 Only problem with Azura's Star is that you have to kill Malyn, regardless of which choice you intend for the star. For as strict of an interpretation as this video took, that's a hard block. Trapped inside the star as he is, Malyn can't somehow be tricked onto committing sudoku by bear or dragon. You could use something like the spiders from Dragonborn DLC to avoid a player kill on the stats page, but that just seems worse. It's better to break a commandment and own it than to try to get by on a loophole.

[@SirFrankoman]

9:50 "She will do all the killing for me, so I won't end up breaking the commandment!" Ah yes, delegation, the greatest loophole in the 10 commandments.

[@Justii218]

Well actually in terms if you tell someone "Murder this person" and they do your still responsible in your own way for there Killing So the Commandment is broken as you still basically ordered a Killing, this you indirectly killed someone

[@moddable6921]

@@Justii218 History never saw it that way, and is exactly why kings/leaders were able to get away with getting people killed / stealing things / etc. via delegation for hundreds of years

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@Justii218 Yep exactly, otherwise God would not have punished David for sending that man to the frontlines to die, so he could sleep with his wife.

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@moddable6921 Not exactly. Legally speaking they where protected. However, in regards to religious law, Kings where expected either to have a just reason for their actions or to seek penance for such crimes. In the Bible several kings are punished by God for such actions. King David for example.

[@moddable6921]

@@patrickbuckley7259 Yeah but a sufficient "just reason" at least in the eyes of the average citizen or the church was "God wants me to do it" even if it's a pretty horrific act. That was their excuse and for the most part it worked

[@orphanofkosishot3940]

Technically being a dragonborn is a gift from Akatosh. The challenge was lost before it even began. Alright, if anyone else beyond the 140 has something to say about my comment, I suggest reading the replies. Chances are someone else has said your exact thoughts, and I have addressed 'your' reply already. Thank you for reading.

[@progoof9148]

I thought it was a gift from Akatosh...

[@orphanofkosishot3940]

@@progoof9148 It seems like it's up for speculation. It could realistically be either Akatosh or Kyne because they've both blessed people with dragon born powers multiple times.

[@ink4852]

@@orphanofkosishot3940 Elder Scrolls lore can get really weird, but it's generally accepted that Kyne (and Paarthurnax) taught men how to Shout, and Akatosh bestows the gift of the dragonblood as he did with St. Alessia in the 1st Era. The only one I know that could be linked directly to Kyne would be Ysmir, who was not a Dragonborn, but was an aspect of Shor. Like a god reincarnated into a mortal. And who is Shor's wife? Yes, Kyne. Though it is also theorized that your own character is an aspect of Shor which is partly why Shor is not present on his thrown in Sovngarde. To be fair, this is from memory. It's been a long time since I've done any deep lore dives. That first bit is taken from Skyrim the game though.

[@orphanofkosishot3940]

@@ink4852 I suppose it then depends on what theories you subscribe to regarding the dragonborn. A question that might come if it's truly Akatosh who blesses the dragonborn is, why would he want Alduin dead? I always thought of Akatosh sort of like Peryite if you know what I'm saying. Would he really interfere to such a degree as to stall the end of time?

[@Zankaras]

As I understand it, Dragonborn come from Akatosh like all other dragon souls and Kyne gave non-Dragonborn the ability to learn how to shout like Dragonborn with years of training and practice.

[@flamebrindger3984]

I have NEVER heard of a challenge run like this before, lmao. My mind is blown at how genius it is.

[@Jboy2000000]

You can actually commit adultery, you need to be married and then start Sanguine's quest where you will marry a Hagraven. What's funny is, one of the potentional spouses is involved in the quest. So you can go to your wife, and she'll gush about how in love you are were with your wife, and that's why she gave you a wedding ring for a reduced price.

[@khajiitimanus7432]

Oh gods, I never thought about that!

[@TheDestructiveGiant]

This happened to me on my first playthrough

[@ittylink]

By Ysgramor's beard!

[@lefrinj]

Yup this happened to me too, or maybe it was before I married her, but it was an interesting twist. It worked out pretty nicely though because when I returned home with the amulet of Mara, she came around the corner carrying a basket of flowers. Nice :-)

[@SamFromSolitude]

Really cool vid!! For the “Thou shalt honour mother and father” commandment, there actually is an optional dialogue with Serana during Dawnguard where she asks what the player’s parent were like, and you can respond positively. So I think that counts as upholding that commandment.

[@holaiamdevil]

sure that would count but he doesnt do dawnguard in this vid

[@diegopugaquintanilla4344]

doing dawnguard would be pretty hard while following the ten commandments

[@fuju7871]

Could that potentially be lying though?

[@SamFromSolitude]

@@fuju7871 all depends on whether you the player think it’s truthful. It’s up to you to make up the backstory for your character

[@Eira_]

I think you could make an exception to the "no killing" rule for things like vampires, werewolves, undead, and daedra since they would all be considered "unholy". You could also get away with killing Dwemer wutomatons since they're machines and aren't alive to begin with.

[@knotlock]

You could also get around that rule by just *killing everyone* who doesn’t worship YHWH, (with the exception of the virgin daughters of those people because they can be kept as sex slaves or wives,) just. like. Moses!

[@GhostzinZ]

Actually killing is """ok"""" as long is self defense

[@TheUlimade]

Goddamitt, no don't kill just because they are unholy, don't make us relieve the crusade, those are still poor souls

[@adrianmcbride1666]

Well you can't really kill that which is already dead, just free it's soul from it's physical cage.

[@GhostzinZ]

@@adrianmcbride1666 and there's the thing that in cristianity if the thing came back from the dead and it was not by God's hand, it's either magic or demonic related so it would be a good thing to destroy it

[@LasherTimora]

"Thou shalt not steal." Welp, there goes my go to playstyle out the window.

[@glassphoenix9095]

"thou shalt not have any gods before me. thou shalt not kill. thou shalt not steal." my khajiit spellsword character who has sworn her soul to like 8 different aedra/daedra and become the thieves guild master, the leader of the dark brotherhood, and a werewolf: this one thinks she may have failed step one

[@spidergames5640]

I’m surprised that he couldn’t just “borrow” and return the item later ya know

[@Art3mis28]

@@glassphoenix9095 A kitty that’s also a doggy-THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO PLAY!

[@Art3mis28]

@@glassphoenix9095 as someone who also plays as a werewolf khajit- “If the men find out we can shapeshift they are going to tell the church!”

[@glassphoenix9095]

@@Art3mis28 YOU GET IT

[@byunnybun]

While the game metrics count it as you "killing" Alduin, it is greatly alluded to Alduin not actually being killed in that battle in later dialogue with the Greybeards due to his lore. That means you technically can beat Skyrim without killing!

[@ghostsuru8429]

Right, I was surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video cause it's heavily hinted that Alduin will come back. But the metrics say it's a kill, so I guess he was going by that rather than by the lore.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Not exactly, you didnt absorbed his soul, but you dont absorb souls from humans, so killing humans isnt killing? Alduin was dead, like every other dragon before Alduin, its just that the gods can resurrect Alduin with his soul

[@joshbalzer9749]

@@ghostsuru8429 well, according to scripture Jesus was resurrected, but the Romans who crucified him still caused his death. Likewise, although it is hinted that Alduin will return, we certainly see his death. Besides, resurrection cannot happen unless said creature is dead.

[@Kjalarrr]

@@erichdegurechaff9515 Alduin is Akatosh though, so it's more like destroying a manifestation. But I suppose that is similar to how Jesus is supposed to be the son of God and God at the same time. Evil dragon Jesus

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

@@Kjalarrr Alduin is Akatosh? Where did you saw this? No, Alduin is a creation of Akatosh, if you think they are the same, then every dragon and the dragonborn are Akatosh too

[@SMJJproductions]

I feel like if you're getting inheritance from your partner's death, that qualifies you as the rightfull owner of their properties and you should be allowed to loot their body as long as you cover them in some garb and bring their body someplace sacred. I'd say the biggest sin here is just leaving uthgurds body in the field after the dragon fight rather than burying her lmao.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Bring the body to the graveyard in Falkreath. The city is open to the worldmap.

[@SaintGhost0794]

On a sour note, Shouts technically break one of your rules They may not be listed as magic but they are derived from Akatosh who is the Dragon God of Time and is the God who is in charge of the other of the Nine Divines

[@Stejers]

That is for the case if the dragonborn and dragons for normal people its a blessing of kynereth godess of wind and sky, either way you are breaking the commandment The whole way of the voice the greybeards preach about is that the th'um should be used as a way to worship kyne In many pantheons of the TES universe kyne is also the spouse of akatosh if im not mistaken And by going to sovengard that is heaven of another God (shor in this case) you could argue you are adoring a false god

[@TheOtherChosenOnes]

He’s performing miracles obvi

[@cosmicfails2053]

@@Stejers Kyne is DEFINITELY NOT akatosh's spouse Akatosh KILLED their spouse, Lorhkan, or Shor as he is known, (aka the god of mortality and man)

[@Stejers]

@@cosmicfails2053 yeah that! I confused akatosh with lorkhan

[@cosmicfails2053]

@@Stejers to be fair they are both significant racial patrons and also the most referenced gods (well Lorkhan is only referenced a lot in Morrowind but shhh) (but for real they barely mention shor in skyrim and it's. Very upsetting)

[@birisuandrei1551]

You really don't have to go to the Inn at the start of the game... Ralof's sister in Riverwood literally offers you to stay at her house and "take anything else you might need" she says.

[@toe_sucker_4165]

That's coveting. New commandment came up.

[@dennysoto1236]

@@toe_sucker_4165 But selling off his follower's belongings (equally freely given) is ok?

[@morrigankasa570]

Similar to Hadvor's Uncle.

[@hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148]

@@toe_sucker_4165 that's not how coveting works I want some chips rn that doesn't mean I'm coveting chips coveting is essentially jealousy or envy not just taking stuff you need

[@GrndAdmiralThrawn]

Also, I feel like Ralof gives you express permission to take Gunjar’s gear. That means it not stealing.

[@hereniho]

The sheer amount of "WELL ACKSHUALLY 🤓" in this comment section is staggering.

[@UzumakiVentus]

I won't look cause, I'm not a "WeLl AcKsHuAlY" Christian.

[@UzumakiVentus]

Did you not hear him say," I am a Christian myself"?

[@UzumakiVentus]

I didn't finish my last scentance But the basic run down is that he and I are not experts in the Bible, so we should not get mocked for differences in culture and beliefs in what day the Sabbath is.

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

I find it all fun to read all of those comments, but to each their own.

[@Wargulf2838]

i think it's made for fun and not necessarily as a religious proof of concept. thus i'm gonna just enjoy the show and have lighthearted fun.

[@Beamo1080]

I think you can actually honor your parents in Skyrim. I know of one instance in the game when the Dragonborn’s parents come up. If I recall correctly, an optional conversation with Serana in the Dawnguard DLC let’s the player make a couple of comments on their parents, ranging from they were good, bad, or weren’t in his/her life. So a true Ten Commandments run would involve you going out of your way to free Serana and progress the quest line to when that conversation becomes available.

[@aratheroddpumpkin]

As well as a small part in the blood and sliver markarth quest where you can say that you have family but they're far away or that you don't care for them

[@JasmineHewitt51]

Can confirm I just did this quest line and yes that dialogue for parents is available

[@ladyjellyfish4757]

@@aratheroddpumpkinYeah the cannibal quest line mentions you having a sibling that died in an accident too

[@RelsLlethri]

The goblet that got you through that door was actually the Holy Grail

[@avriel6903]

I think the "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods" is actually broken by wanting to steal them, but not being able to.

[@JHowOfficial]

"One moment. One moment. One moment. ENOUGH!" That had me dying lol

[@lily4813ds]

didn't even know daddy balgruuf could get snappy like that

[@afatneckbeard5272]

@@lily4813ds pretty sure the "ENOUGH" is part of the conversation he was in the middle of

[@TheKatti5000]

This is truly one of the most creative challenge ideas I've ever seen for any game. It's a funny concept to combine something as serious as the Christian scripture with a chaotic game like Skyrim, yet it makes for a surprisingly difficult challenge. Great video!

[@resm-oe9ji]

The ability to shout was granted to mortals by the goddess Kyne, actually. So the challenge may have been doomed from the start.

[@chillfactory9000]

Not religious so sorry if this sounds stupid, but wouldn't this be less of a worshipping problem, and more of a "being born out of sin" problem? The Dovakiin can't help that they have the ability to shout.

[@lightningrain3114]

​@@chillfactory9000Doesnt matter, its still brought on by a different god

[@maninthecamohat2735]

Next you need to play GTA v without breaking the ten commandments.

[@TheReconJacob]

If I ever get round to trying that challenge, you'll know I truly lost my marbles.

[@maninthecamohat2735]

@@TheReconJacob Ha

[@1s5n]

don't do it, watch darkviperau's pacifist series and you'll see why

[@theninjas2870]

The game starts with a heist. I would be impressed if you could get control of Franklin without break a commandment.

[@flipflopzthreeonethree1873]

InControlAgain has a video called "A Crimeless Playthrough of GTA Online" that has similar vibes lol

[@James11111]

Couple things to note 1: Dragons and shouts are inherently tied to Akatosh. Non-Dragonborn mortals being able to use shouts is tied to Kynareth. So they absolutely break your "no magic" rule. 2: Killing undead and daedra would absolutely be allowed since they are inherently evil and unholy entities. Also of note, neither would actually be considered "killing". Since for the most part, undead are animated by blasphemous magic, and a daedra's "soul" is sent back to Oblivion where it regenerates after awhile, so you dont kill them, just displace them for awhile. The same could be said for Alduin.

[@yoperson744]

Doesn’t the thou shalt not kill only refer to humans

[@SmallAngryNerd]

​@@yoperson744thats what I was thinking too. Like you can definitely still kill a cow

[@emptycradle1304]

Since we cannot tell what the soul actually does anything with sentience like us may also have a soul in which case murder would apply...

[@simple-shawn]

For the 1. I agree for it... Almost Let me explain : Akatosh gave the Dragons the ability to shout, since they're kinda the dragon's parent, shouts that dragon make are from Akatosh, though the Dragonborn can learn them Shouts like Unrelenting Force, Ethereal Corpse , Slow Time, Whirlwind Sprint are coming from Kyne, by the way of meditation HOWEVER, there are shouts that are neither from Kyne nor from Akatosh, those are : Call Heroes, Summon Odahviing/Durnehviir, and the famous Dragonrend. The summons are just people spirits hearing you calling them via your thu'um And the dragonrend has been done by meticulous research, not meditation, by the 3 heroes, the greybeards even say that dragonrend is an insult to the thu'um, that you shouldn't use it.

[@niquitobonito]

I would also say that there are animist in Skyrim that do worship the dragons(like the dragon priests...) so even then that's still using magic tied to worship of a false idol

[@TheCloudDistrict]

One quick “WELL ACTUALLY 👆🤓“ the Dragonborn talks about his parents during the Dawnguard DLC.

[@zandavanrooyen5388]

The funniest thing for me to do when playing is deliberately trying to talk to Balgruuf while he's busy and him saying "not now" over and over again.

[@TtoTheTimTem]

Aerin: Fights an Ice Wraith out of nowhere* Aerin: Walks away and refuses to elaborate further*

[@Z3Milesky]

*SIMP*

[@mariblue72]

Around the 25:00 mark, in case anyone else wants to try this challenge: if you wan to go through the motions of finding info on Esbern, you can avoid Brynjolf altogether by talking to Keerava, thereby avoiding lying by agreeing to his task with no intention of following through. If you want to avoid Brynjolf's quest from triggering, I find using the blacksmith forge for a few minutes works well. He talks at you for a few minutes and then walks away, and won't approach you again, and you don't get a prompt in your quest journal.

[@damian6660]

Skyrim: Ned Flanders edition.

[@CanisMythson]

the hilarity of Aeren showing up randomly around Mjoll is always entertaining

[@snowflakeserpert6834]

See this, THIS is how to be a Christian, do silly things with it and just have fun, not get offended whenever anyone has a slightly different view from you. As someone who's dealt a lot with the folks who like to use Christianity as an excuse to be cruel and prejudiced to others, I thank you dearly for this grand ol time!!!

[@azearaazymoto461]

You could be considered to have pased based on two technicalities. As I recall, Alduin is actually immortal and isn't dead, but only delayed (he's the destroyer of worlds and will eventually return to end this kalpa, as I understood it). It's also worth considering the draugr has no will, so the dragonstone is ownerless once its keeper dies. In real life, when you die without a will, spouse, next-of-kin, or clear descendant, you cede control to the state, so the Jarl would have the right to decide what to do with the tablet.

[@derpeth2101]

Besides, self defense is not murder.

[@azearaazymoto461]

@@derpeth2101 He already said that, he just wanted to make things more challenging.

[@wozaow]

Not really, though, as shouts are given power by a dragon god, if I'm not mistaken.

[@ItsBodin]

Dude amazing content including the fact about “thou shall not kill”. The tradition translation is actually “thou shall not murder” so self defense is allowed so is killing in military service. Instead of going with this you took it literally and made it more of a challenge! Awesome video!

[@2shadesofgray752]

Capital punishment is also allowed

[@akechijubeimitsuhide]

Also, I suppose it only applies to humans (or in this case, humanoid NPCs/enemies). Animals don't count. Dragons are still a grey area since they can talk.

[@ItsBodin]

@@akechijubeimitsuhide i would agree to that as well, since god did give us “dominion” over the earth!

[@akechijubeimitsuhide]

@@ItsBodin I'm a heathen but you do you

[@ItsBodin]

@@akechijubeimitsuhide funny enough I just went from non practicing christian to pagan 😂

[@MonosArkhein]

The ability to shout comes from Akatosh and the dragon blood for the player character and dragons, the thoom for mortals comes from the goddess Kyne

[@elmaster48]

1:46 in a conversation with Serana she ends up asking you about your parents. There you can answer that you either miss them or say that you grew up without parents or that you never got along with them and is better that we didn’t see them in a while.

[@ragergamer3111]

That doesn't really count since that is DLC and not part of the main quest line

[@ventexovakon2178]

Was thinking of this.

[@gachilhan]

This video is a hidden gem for sure

[@hydrowolf1]

It was now all can see it in its glory

[@ArimasVR]

24:30 Started off trying to beat the game without breaking the ten commandments and ends up discovering a Thalmor Embassy speedrun

[@stephalloplayz]

"She does a good job at speeding up the process of killing the dragon" Sadly, in doing so she also sped up her life

[@boopinoop4545]

I’m pretty sure the reason Aeren showed randomly is because his path finding AI is set to follow Mjol, and sometimes it glitches and has him appear randomly when she is following you

[@edgreen2660]

Yes, and it gets worse. Every time I've married Mjoll, Aeren moved in with us.

[@brandonfrancis1941]

@@edgreen2660 He's not essential ;)

[@brandonfrancis1941]

I was in black reach once with Mjoll and I see, in the distance, Aerin fighting a chaurus.

[@edgreen2660]

@@brandonfrancis1941, I understand if you're married to Mjoll, and you kill Aerin, she gets mad at you. However, I've also heard that you can cast fury on her, and she'll do it.

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

Regardless of whatever I may feel about religion and its practices, this is a very good and entertaining video. I've seen many a Skyrim challenge video and this one is definitely one of my favorites. I hope you continue making content like this.

[@Houndnwolf]

I’m sorry, while you were laying down the rules for the challenge, the bread on your plate was trying to escape and I couldn’t look away.

[@stefannilsson2406]

18:14 Lydia and Uthgerd are protected. Only the player can kill them if they are following the player. When you dismiss them they lose the protection until you make them follow you again.

[@nahte-]

not true. i have had lydia die multiple times while she was following me.

[@stefannilsson2406]

@@nahte- Then don't accidentally hit her. If you use the resurrect command on her when she is dead she will probably be very mad at you. Meaning you hit her and killed her without noticing.

[@fuster6263]

Sadly jzargos scrolls killed my Lydia

[@stefannilsson2406]

@@fuster6263 F

[@mateuszdabrowski7078]

Awsome video mate ,i love the quote "thy shall not stab in the back even if it would kill them by now" xD , love the idea of that challenge , once again awesome work

[@darthbiker2311]

Regarding not stealing, I remember my first playthrough 10 years ago when I had to help clear out monsters from some NPC's family crypt. I started picking up potions I found lying around and he immediately shouted something about how the items belonged to his family.

[@loomhigh]

goldir my beloved

[@etcetera1995]

About the Dragon Stone: you're basically acting as an archaeologist for the Jarl's court mage. You're not just acting under orders, you're also recovering an artifact from a historical site for study by a scholar.

[@Malhaloc]

It would depend on laws of the land. Because the dragon wall is basically a will that grants the draugr the dragon stone tablet as property, the city of Whiterun and the nation of Skyrim would have to decide whether or not the dead could legally own property or if the will is legally null and void. In all likelihood, taking it would not be against any laws of Skyrim or Whiterun.

[@magica3526]

amateur archaeology is no different from grave robbing. This is not archaeology. No attempt to record the situation of the artifact, no research on it at all. It's grave robbing, plain and simple

[@joemama-zm4de]

@@magica3526 'no research on it at all' uh, no? delphine explicitly states that research on the dragon tablet leads to the map of the graves of dragons. and it wouldn't be the dragonborn's job to write these things down. it's, like... basically plainly stated that farengar is researching the dragon map for delphine, which leads to the map of the dragon graves, and the second encounter with alduin.

[@magica3526]

@@joemama-zm4de but as a map, not as a cultural artifact

[@joemama-zm4de]

@@magica3526 my brother / sister / sibling in christ. THE CULTURAL ARTIFACT IS JUST A MAP. IT AIN'T THAT DEEP.

[@BeekillerJohanna]

I remember watching a no-kill playthrough that used shield bash for beating Alduin. There's a special shield that causes a bleed effect, and letting the bleed effect kill Alduin makes it not show up in your kill stats.

[@bytheeight5636]

31:40 excellent point about serving one faction and neglecting another. as Matthew 6,24 says, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon." keep up the great work, Brother

[@MaidofRage420]

Personally one of the most interesting "Can you beat" videos in awhile

[@ooi97]

"Not benefit from anything related to any god" *stands on Nirn, a planet made by the gods, lit by the Sun, a hole into eternity made by the god of magic, and by the Moons, which are the broken body of the god of mankind.*

[@FeCyrineu]

Actually, there is a single conversation where it is estabilished that the Dragonborn has parents. It happens if you talk to Serana at the vampire castle basement and she asks what happend to the dragonborn's family. You can tell them they're fine, that they're dead or that you don't care. Saying the last one would break commandment V, so keep that in mind if you ever take this challenge to the vampire questline.

[@dima_keller]

If you went with Hadvar you could've taken items from the chest since it belongs to the Empire and you were ordered by an empirial officer to take it Could've taken Loot from Gerdur and her house since she offers it's not stealing You can finish a quest in Riverwood and get Faendal as a follower without lying Also you can smith. All you need is a permission to use a forge, which isn't a problem and some ores which you can gather yourself. Same goes for Alchemy, but I don't know if it's connected to any "false gods" lol Another thing that might be useful is "Become ethereal" shout, but I don't remember where it is, so it might not be worth the trouble

[@Draezeth]

Additionally: Shouts are a gift of Kyne (depending of which version of the legend you believe), so shouting shouldn't be allowed in this run. Killing also in no way applies to animals.

[@James11111]

Alchemy is definitely disputable for this, as really it's just chemistry. I think it's use should revolve around what ingredients are used. Like if you use some plants to make a healing potion, that's fine. But say something like a daedra heart? Probably not.

[@dima_keller]

​@@DraezethI think it only applies to normal people and not Dragonborn, but Dragonborn's sole existence is basically a gift of Akatosh, so it doesn't change much

[@zestotemp]

Making restrictions on your character that you choose to follow is the way role playing games were designed to be enjoyed

[@TheKnifeRaven]

I came up with the idea of doing this in D&D. No breaking the 10 Commandments. My friends think I'm insane. They're right.

[@Hunter_Kennedy1]

That would be so painful. Most fun I’ve ever had in D&D is making the most ridiculous character possible and being as insane as possible lol

[@jennifercameron8859]

My D&D character is a vampire that doesn’t like hurting people. I’m having a hard time XD

[@Bandopede]

It really SHOULDN'T be that hard, but people play D&D like such dolts 😂 commit crimes with impunity and if you show ANY apprehension, you're holding up the game. And God forbid the DM actually try to punish them for it, suddenly the whole group can agree on something.

[@mrcopycat2355]

I found the only person who would like Book Of Exalted Deeds

[@rexanderson4585]

I'm surprised you didn't use the starting gold to buy an axe sense in white run The innkeeper will buy chopped wood from you and even asks you to chop it if you ask

[@GrndAdmiralThrawn]

Also, he could have bought some leather and made leather armor to use instead of hide

[@Emil_Stoltz]

Technically that's stealing as well because you're taking someone else's wood

[@michaelburke9137]

If they asked you to chop the wood it wouldn't be.

[@jackturner1352]

@@Emil_Stoltz They ask you to chop it for them, and get paid for it. Employment is not stealing lol.

[@Janoha17]

There are actually two places where the Dragonborn can mention parents/family: Talking to Serana in Valerica's lab during the Dawnguard questline, and talking to Braig during No One Escapes Cidhna Mine.

[@MuchWhittering]

FYI, if you play as an Altmer and wear Thalmor robes, you can just walk through the Embassy without sneaking.

[@lostliberty9913]

This guy is so wholesome.

[@estherclawson6876]

This cracked me up. Thanks for making it, man. I always feel a little guilty at certain parts, and I can't play as vampire because I feel like it's too abusive to others in the game. I use werewolf ism as a way to not contract vampirism but otherwise do very little with it, because it feels like the daedra are pretenders and not worthy of worship. Funny how religious upbringing colors our lives in the oddest ways.

[@seand.g423]

I mean... it's also a pretty good way to get close(ish) to a town faster while "overencumbered"...

[@willow_rayne6678]

I also use the werewolf-ism to keep from contracting vampirism. Other than that, I don't use it. I did, however, only use it once and that was to get a certain quest done because for some reason, I simply could NOT get through it. I had my follower and Gogh wait at the entrance, then went in, transformed, and came back out like "ready to go?" I like to imagine what kind of responses I'd receive... such as the follower hearing all of these noises coming from inside, then I walk out like, "let's go!" lol But I absolutely agree with what you said.

[@Grey_3708]

If you talk to Carlotta, you can fight Mikael in the tavern. Talk to Uthgerd and it'll register the brawl between you and Mikael as between you and her. If you're even somewhat lucky, you can do this several times before it "breaks" and you can get quite a bit of gold for just starting out. I always do this on every playthrough.

[@foheadeats2558]

I played this game so much with so many replays but somehow didn’t notice the person guiding you in the beginning can be two different people

[@eloquentlyemma]

I like this challenge. It’s a nice way of playing and it makes it interesting. Edit: I’d personally consider animals, monsters and undead as fair game for the “no killing” rule, but I’d personally feel that having a companion do the killing instead as a bit of a grey area… ok… now you’ve explained your reasoning. That’s cool🙂 Edit 2: re. Stabbing greybeards to level up: ahh, the Batman solution…

[@HeartlandHunny]

“The Batman solution” 😂😂😂

[@johnbailey8103]

In Skyrim special edition, Aerin randomly will show up if your follower is Mjoll, bc his pathing is normally just "follow Mjoll everywhere" unless she's your follower, but his pathing while she's your follower is broken in SE Todd Howard: "it just works"

[@TheReconJacob]

Thank you for providing an answer to this haha

[@YourDapper1]

I thank you for the disclaimer my friend I doubt anyone would have thought you were being rude or making a joke of those religions but it was a kind thing of you to do

[@marshallm0992]

Aeren's scripting makes it to where he follows Mjoll around all the time, like a lost puppy dog. There is no code in this script to stop this even when Mjoll is your follower, or even your wife, so marrying Mjoll is a two for one deal and Aeren will just be chilling around your house with her.

[@testedTransgressor]

Yes, it's pronounced like M-yoll Names of Skyrim Nords are mostly taken from Old Norse, so the pronunciation transfers with them. A letter J preceded by a consonant is pronounced as a Y. Njada Stone-Arm = Nyada Stone-Arm Brynjolf = Brynyolf Mjoll = Myoll Etc Great work, very engaging!

[@xThemFatalex]

it's actually not just "old Norse", current Nordic languages like Finnish still pronounce J like Y 🇫🇮

[@Софија-крафт]

@@xThemFatalex finnish is not nordic it's baltic, Slavic languages do this too

[@Lamelija]

@@Софија-крафт a quick google search says otherwise. there are currently only 2 baltic languages in the world: Lithuanian and Latvian. Finnish is a Nordic language.

[@Софија-крафт]

@@Lamelija "finnish is part of the finno urgic family" 😂

[@Софија-крафт]

@@Lamelija not even Indo European Nordic languages are tho

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

This is so much more impressive than that pacifist run video that came out a while back. His is still impressive, but the fact that you didn't just go by the in game kill counter (as well as all the other restrictions) makes this run _WAY_ more difficult. Good job.

[@eleanorburnham3713]

Absolute wholesome Christian content, I love it!!

[@imkurisuchan]

This might be the best Skyrim video I've seen in a while. As a Christian myself I really enjoyed this

[@blastification2]

As soon as you mentioned that you were taking a strict interpretation of not killing, I knew it would be impossible. I've seen a lot of Skyrim challenges before, and Alduin ruins many of them.

[@kathleenw6984]

I bet playing as an imperial would be useful for this because they have the Voice if the Emperor ability to calm enemies

[@mateofreigenedo]

Technicaly you can disrespect your mother and father. There is one line of dialogue with Serana when you ask her about her family. After talking to you she will ask you about YOUR family. You can tell her that you miss them, that they're dead, or that you are no longer talk to each other

[@alinavuong1117]

So much thought and effort went into this challenge to create something great. Incredibly well done and I’m glad I got to witness it!

[@nathanbritt5515]

This is the best Skyrim challenge video I've ever seen and I love how you remained true to your faith while attempting this challenge! I too am a Christian and have tried "Christian character challenges"(not specifically 10 commandments) for both Skyrim and Fallout 4. Even though Fallout 4 has more profanity, gore, and the optional potential for implied sexual encounters, I actually found it far easier to be a Christian there than in Skyrim since it takes place in our world instead of a false world made by false gods like Skyrim. I would love to see this challenge brought to life in fallout 4, I think the not killing is actually possible there, but the character can use God's name in vain so that'd be a new obstacle to avoid.

[@dima_keller]

I think it might be impossible because of character saying stuff like "Oh, God!" reacting to some events including leaving the vault for the first time This counts right?

[@nathanbritt5515]

@@dima_keller ya something like that would count and I don't expect it to be possible, but it'd be really interesting to see him go out of his way to avoid it as best as possible since no one else has tried it. I think there are also some instances where the characters gender makes a difference. Heck, maybe he could change the language to one that doesn't use God's name in vain at times which could make it possible again, who knows?🤔

[@Zorae42]

@@nathanbritt5515 I mean, if you want to go into technicalities, I'm pretty sure saying "Oh, God" isn't really what is meant by that commandment. And that it refers more to cursing God directly, making false promises under the name of God, or lying about God speaking to you and whatnot.

[@tobiasGR3Y]

5:06. Ahh, The Horse of Judgement. You have returned to us.

[@coreyeverett5500]

Commandment five actually has at least one very, VERY limited way to break it. Serana asks about your parents in the Dawnguard DLC. It's possible to say "We didn't really get along. It's best that I haven't seen them in a while.", which probably does it.

[@lukeperry3454]

That's so funny

[@ShadowRavenRaz]

Not gonna lie, my brain broke and my right eye started twitching uncontrollably when you complied with the thief. Good job, this was very entertaining! 👍

[@Xavier24578]

Alduin never dies because you dont absorb his soul

[@Spiketrooper]

You actually can make your own history regarding your relationship to your parents when Serana asks you about your relationship to your parents and you have some options about it. You can actually say "I love them both very much and hope to see them again soon" or something like that, honoring thy parents. So technically you shouldn't have removed that rule

[@shannon4991]

Your commitment to this challenge was admirable! Also, your narration is entertaining and was very informational and helpful alongside the editing. Great video!

[@derpeth2101]

He broke the Don't kill commandment multiple times. Telling someone else to kill for you doesn't absolve you.

[@berpyderpy9301]

This has to be the most absurd and creative Skyrim challenge ever

[@ashibii]

During the quest where you and Serana go under castle volkihar, there is actually a dialogue option where Serana asks you about your parents, and you can reply in a few different ways. Whichever one you said also dictates some dialogue she says to you later on about your parents.

[@katherinebot]

For the issue in the Thalmor Embassy, you could’ve used poisons of Frenzy to cause the enemies to fight one another. As long as you only stab them once with a weapon, you didn’t kill them. I’m not sure if it would count towards the statistics, but it would be something to look at if you ever wanna revisit this for something like a DLC or Oblivion

[@AJ-ri5ee]

In 1 Samuel, God "confuses" the Philistines, causing them to fight amongst themselves, securing the victory for Jonathan and the Israelites. So, I'd say frenzy could be biblical 😆

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@AJ-ri5ee would reverse pickpocketing count as stealing? putting the poison in their pocket wouldn't even involve hitting them, so that sounds like fair game

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

@@HappyBeezerStudios You would need a lot of gold to pay a trainer for Pickpocket, since you can't actually steal items to level up the skill for the Poisoner perk. But considering one Pickpocket trainer is an actual beggar, it would also count as the very Christian act of giving to charity, I guess?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@LibraritheWizardOfficial now I'm reminded of poisoned apples in Oblivion. you'd just leave them lying around and the npcs would grab them by themselves. not your fault

[@ColumineMiette]

*breaks laws of physics* Yes, but I didn't break a commandment!

[@FieldEmperor]

Genuinely unique and entertaining idea. This was amazing.

[@argatar]

This was a great video. I have never enjoyed a random sub 1k view yt reccomendation as much as this. Top level work

[@nightspicer]

I'm pretty sure that "thou shall not kill" is more so that you can't murder someone rather than just kill. So in case of the wolves for example, when they were attacking you, you could kill them as that would be you simply defending yourself.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And I'm pretty sure the commandment is aimed at people. (Animals can fall under the " not covetthy neighbors slaves, animals or anything of thy neighbor") So wild beasts that are not part of anyone's property would be okay. And they probably fall under the age old past time of hunting anyway. And there are a couple crimes "worthy of death" which include murder. So killing a murderer is explicitly allowed. Even more explicit since that's exactly what Moses ordered when he came back from the mountain with the commandments. So pretty much the first "governmental" act after enacting the rules was killing.

[@shadowrose8907]

It's more than even that; more than hunting being a "pastime," it's both necessary to live (I'm not going to have a debate about veganism) and explicitly condoned in Genesis, when man was given dominion over the beasts of the earth. Additionally, not only is "thou shalt not kill" more accurately translated as "thou shalt not murder," which I thought had been known for years now, there are occasions in the Old Testament where God actually commands that someone be killed.@@HappyBeezerStudios

[@icecoldgazpacho]

I noticed you’re using the simpsons hit and run music, nice 😂😂 Also yes, “you can’t kill, those already dead” - solid line from one of my favourite Metalcore songs 😂

[@purplehaze2358]

I strongly desire a sequel to this where you do nothing _but_ breaking the ten commandments.

[@FraserSouris]

So a regular play through then?

[@cosmicfails2053]

How would you go about the adultery?

[@thecatinthehatwithabat9903]

​@@cosmicfails2053Modding?

[@cosmicfails2053]

@@thecatinthehatwithabat9903 perfect since you would be also evoking the powers of otherworldly beings to skyrim with mods

[@ryanbrewer766]

1:48 I know it’s a little detail that doesn’t change anything, but there is mention of your parents in this game in a set of voice lines with serana before you enter the soul cairne. She asks about your parents and there’s a few options and lines to expand after what you say

[@GhostzinZ]

I came to the comments to say this, thank you

[@cuttlefishfan]

the good christian content im subscribed for

[@rismyth1]

After the - look up pronunciation of Mjoll bit - the everytime a new name came up just had me rolling. It was awesome. Very entertaining. Thank you.

[@letsoffend695]

It's a sad day that you have to put such a disclaimer at the start of an enjoyable skyrim video.