Can You Beat Tales of Arise without Artes?! 🔥 CHAOS || NO DLC

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Alright, what run do you want to see next? It can be any RPG or JRPG! Thanks again for your support everyone. I genuinely appreciate it. 🔥 _MORE CHALLENGE RUNS_ 🔥 ➡ *Final Fantasy VII* with ONLY ICE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHOui5dveZeYedk ➡ *Final Fantasy X* versus CHAT GPT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGOYialuqcuKkLM ➡ *Final Fantasy XII* without MAGIC or SHOPS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHOxgadpediJr9E ➡ *Final Fantasy XIII* without DEALING ANY DAMAGE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKG5k2inhpqCoas ➡ *Final Fantasy XV* with NO MAGIC at LEVEL 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKu8nntnZs19pbM ➡ *Dragon Quest XI* without DEALING ANY DAMAGE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apCpi2CIiM5qf7c ➡ *Pokémon Yellow* with ONLY METRONOME: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amOsZYKPoJpkrc0 ➡ *Scarlet Nexus* without PSYCHOKINESIS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJWTaomZfLJpnZI ➡ *Persona 1* without UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGe5kpavqr5-kMU ➡ *Persona 3 Portable* with ONLY ANGEL: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ_KqX1jobyif8k ➡ *Persona 4 Golden* with ONLY SLIME: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annanIOPbpysnNE ➡ *Persona 4 Golden* with NO NEW SKILLS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opSXeKKLl8mYd5Y ➡ *Persona 5 Royal* with ONLY GUNS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYGVYWBnhJeoZrc ➡ *Persona 5 Royal* with ONLY MANDRAKE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIHal3ykidN5sJo ➡ *Persona 5 Royal* with ONLY BICORN: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4Grk2tsqbxoZpo ➡ *Persona 5 Royal* - 10 WORST ITEMS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ome4gqOaqtata5o ➡ *Persona 5 Strikers* with ONLY JACK-O'-LANTERN: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6eVgnWljMt3kK8

[@powerplay9422]

Can you beat Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot without the Community Board and Super Attack Tree skill boosts? This also means you can't learn new moves(except ones that are automatically unlocked by story progression; if they start off pre-lit up, they are fair game). I'd also have a challenge that involves not gaining food bonuses, but honestly that shit's so mandatory that it may as well be a requirement to play the game correctly.

[@SailorMusicCat]

Anything Fire Emblem related is always a good one for me. Xenoblade Chronicles(any in the series) I feel like have some interesting challenge run potential but they're also...LONG so I feel like maybe any of those would be good work on the background while doing other stuff if you wanna keep up with the once a month upload schedule. I'm not really sure what type of challenge to do with it but a game I love that I don't see a lot of people play or talk about(for reasons I understand) is Tokyo Mirage Sessions so ~quietly pushes that suggestion towards you~ I definitely second another commenters suggestion of the Bravely series. Those seem like they could get INTERESTING with challenges. Thanks for the video! It was lovely.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

@@SailorMusicCat Good shout with Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, I'll definitely add those to the list! Thanks for the kind words, I'm just making these videos in my spare time and they take FOREVER to make (due to the sheer amount of footage) so I'm glad some people are enjoying them. Cheers! :)

[@kasumichanxx8390]

Final Fantasy 10 with out the sphere Grid

[@aaronkelm]

something about Xenogears but i cant come up with challenge

[@SailorMusicCat]

Only 16 minutes in so far and LOVING IT. Had to pause to chime that I never count FORCED usage against the runner in these kinds of things. Especially when most often they tried for AGES to get around it before giving up. If it's skippable in some form(within the rules) I expect the runner to do so but if it's not (at the time of playthrough I know sometimes things get discovered after because well...Gaming Community) than it's expected. Especially as you want to see if it's possible within the game mechanics without glitches or exploits it is VERY understandable you'd be forced into a situation like that tutorial.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, I think you summed it up much better than I did in the video. Appreciate the support! :)

[@espada9000]

45:20 This shows you how reliable Kisara is in the game. Definitely way more reliable than Brigitte from Overwatch.

[@nicademeous]

What a mad lad! Absolutely loved this game and was sad to finish everything it had to offer. This made work so much better today, thanks for putting yourself through the ringer for us!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

I'm glad you had fun! :) I will also be doing Tales of Berseria at some point in the near future, so keep a lookout for that video too!

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Can i just say that this channel deserves way more subs, the quality is crazy good for such a young channel

[@RPGchallengeruns]

You honour me! Thank you! :) I'm totally new to the whole Youtubing thing but things look like they're going pretty well so far.

[@sheercold26]

Right???? Best be RPG channel imo

[@nox7796]

I just recently discovered him and have watched everything but yes I fully agree definitely deserves more subs

[@mikhailantonov4750]

I pass all tales of Arise in Unknown difficulty, and believe me chaos is nothing compared to unknown. To pass it i needed to farm, I do that by passing the game 7 times, the first time I obtain the the Demon Weapons and pass the game complete with every mision, with that you can pass the game countless times and every demon weapon will get stronger with every enemy killed, and that progress is saved by getting a new game plus and using your existing file, so with that I passed the game 8 times, and in every play through I also consume every plant or consumable that increase some aspects, like adding defense, attack, resistance, etc. So in the 9th play I was extremely OP with level 100, 4000+ of attack with Alphen and 3500+ with Dohalim and defense very high too. So I started that 9th play in unknown difficulty and even with that I got some serious problems, the main story was extremely easy, same as the normal sub quests, but there was some missions where everything was so so difficult, like the reminiscence dispositive where I got 13 Gold Jelly’s and the problem with this misión is that you start with 98Lv Balseph, and then you continue with every lord till you get all lords and then Zephyr Boss Fight where he’s level 100, that was an extremely difficult mission that took me 2:30 hrs and i even make some pauses. Then is the visitors from another world mission, those are the most difficult missions in the game, the final battle between our characters and Edna and Eizen was super difficult with 2 hits you’re dead and law/Rinwell it only took one. But the really worst part was Chronos Boss Fight he’s the ultimate challenge, even that I got max level and extremely overpowered skills with only one hit everyone died, so i needed to equip all kind of consumables to survive more, it was only one boss and it took me 1:20 to win at the final 20 minutes approximately, I was fighting alone because everyone died and I have no consumables at that point so it was one-two hits and roll, I even use personalized strategies to get my allies just roll and only hit one time but even with that they were dying a lot. And there’s even something worse, when you get every artifact there’s one in specific that reduces all your damage and all the enemy damage to 1 per hit, normally a hit will get 120-2000 depends on your level, but with my statistics it got me 6000-8000 one hit, so killing even the simplest enemy can get you hrs, a boss like Chronos will probably take one day easily. So at this point i think it is almost impossible to pass unknown difficulty in the first play through and I say almost only because I think someone out there has the time to only dodge during the fight and take months form his life only to complete it, but I don’t really think someone can actually do that, and the one damage per hit I think is impossible, because it can take hole months in real time gameplay to pass it.

[@oJaymey]

full respect this was great one of my fav games honestly and to see a run like this is awesome great work. happy i came across this. there were parts i struggled with normally so to see someone do this is hype. you deserve a lot of subs just for this content. and your commentary throughout is reallly enjoyable

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, I really appreciate the kind words - it keeps me motivated!!

[@Owenw218]

Incredible, can't wait to see more of your content! This is the kind of content KZbin needs more of. Keep up the good work man!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

A massive thanks, honestly. :) This is just a little hobby of mine and I hope to keep improving it!

[@JAK_Automation]

Absolutely insane. You might have been better off stacking Counterattack 30%'s on Alphen's accessory though vs the more balanced approach. Or at least keeping one around and swapping into it when needed mid-battle. While not super helpful on regular enemies it lets you tear through the larger bosses who have long attack animations that leave them open since the entire animation will count for the Counterattack effects letting you essentially double your damage. Seriously though mad respect and worth a subscribe.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

That's good advice - thanks! :)

[@ConFect99]

I think you are going to be one of the big gaming guys one day, if you keep up the quality. Great run so far, I'm looking forward towards watching the whole video.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

TBH I'm still reeling in shock at passing 1000 subs, and we're now at 8k! Pretty crazy how many people love watching! Thanks for your kind words. :)

[@herorico8433]

Very well-put video. I don't usually watch these kinds of videos, but you had me HOOKED all the way through. I'll head off and watch your other videos now!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, really appreciate your time. Plenty more coming in the future! :)

[@Maikeon]

Tales of Arise was my first game on Ps5. I really love this game almost as much as Tales of Vesperia. Therefore I really enjoyed this amazing Challange Run of this game. Keep up that amazing work of yours

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. More Tales content to come in the future! :)

[@shivur5073]

This game was such a treat. I absolutely loved this tales. I'm going to go back and finish it again but invest more time. I had so many other games at the time of this release that I rushed through it and I regret it

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah it was a top-tier game. So much depth.

[@mayborneflower]

30:34 - Any clue if knocking both beasts into low red HP and then trying to bushwhack them in succession (like Agni and Rudra from Devil May Cry 3) would stop the fusion and end the fight on the spot? I considered a similar idea for the SAO DLC to see if it was possible to stop Asuna’s sicko mode moment for beating Kirito first but I’m way too broke to keep up with gaming past the PS3, so I never got to live fire it myself.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Good question! I'm also curious about this. I wonder if anyone can chime in here?

[@onexpiece1991]

Awesome run! One of my fave tales. Please do vesperia no artes to that would be awesome

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks! Yeah that would be really fun, I'll add it to the "to do" list!

[@ashenphoenix6869]

37:48 Poor Alphen gets very angry when Shionne gets Ko'd. Going for his best Shulk Scream

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Haha yeah it was one heck of a scream!!

[@rowanmorris2187]

Great vid ace. I just finished this game today, really enjoyed It.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Glad you enjoyed it! Absolutely love this game, it's a top-tier JRPG.

[@sanfransiscon]

Congrats! Not only did you manage to see this challenge to the end, it also looks like you beat that final 1v1 without help from the game making you unkillable if your HP hits 0!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Wow I didn't even realise that was even a mechanic in the 1v1 haha. I suppose it makes sense for the game to give you a safety net at the point, since it's the big climatic story point. Thanks for checking out the full video, I really appreciate your time! :)

[@henrique7137]

I don't know how I'm just finding out about your channel now but I'm loving it! Keep it up!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, you're very kind! 😀

[@lukeamparo6586]

Awesome challenge video. One of the best I’ve seen. All in a month too?! Bro you’re mad, I never knew you could beat this game without artes. Also love that you mentioned Zestiria with some positivity. Most Tales fans hate it but I’m one of the few who liked it, maybe cause it was my first.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

TBH I love all of the Tales games (that I've played). They all feel so magical and different from other JRPGs. Thanks for checking out the video! 😀

[@tanita7331]

You did massive damage to your attack button. XD I like to watch your videos. You have a cool way to present your runs. Thanks, keep up the hard work. :D

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Genuinely had finger cramp for 2 days after finishing the run! 😆 Cheers, I appreciate the kind words!

[@rafaelamorim3291]

You channel is amazing, super entertaining videos. S2 I love when you say grinnnder someeee more.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, really appreciate the kind words - it keeps me motivated!! :)

[@ryokophreak]

Been going through all your vids and am really enjoying them! Good job :) You deserve more views and subs!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, you're very kind! I'll just keep releasing more videos and if people like them, great! :)

[@c3rberus04]

Congrats on the 4K 👏🥳

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks so much! And congrats on being the very first channel member - really appreciate the support! :D

[@c3rberus04]

@RPG Challenge Runs I will definitely keep supporting you I've been binge watching and re-watching your videos the last few days and I love them so much

[@commoncrook8531]

No glitches, or hacks.....and just like that, you became my favorite challenge runner.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Aww shucks! 😆 haha. But yeah, I want to keep things authentic, i.e. something that someone could plausibly do themselves without any outside assistance. We gotta beat the devs at their own game, literally!

[@abeldiaz3877]

Wow, great run. I was just plain dying to everything in chaos, even (ab)using artes, so I guess I suck. 😂 Also, for future games run challenges, I think we can all agree that rules don't apply to unskippable tutorials.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, I'm glad you had fun! 😀

[@Celestial-yq6hz]

Normal is hard enough for me 😅

[@metalgremlin0]

Having a mandatory use due to a tutorial is not a run killer to my opinion. Wether you can work around it or not. I gor this game when it came out. This video makes me want to go back at it and achieve everything. This is a great video, along side the rest of your content. Keep up this great work.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks! 100% recommend going back and playing this game again - there's also a lot of great bonus/optional content that we didn't cover in this video that you'll really enjoy!

[@ashleyrobinson5463]

Remember Ash, you was here before this channel blew up. Just bought this game btw it looks quite cool!!

[@chillnagasden6190]

Great video for an AMAZING game. I *LOVED* this game so much. Especially the color explosions on some Finishers. Rinwell's was my favorite. Forget the name but you get the elemental colors and just *_* gorgeous. One of the only Tales games that I didn't only beat on Maniac (Or whatever it was called) but did so immediately after regular NG

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah it's an amazing game, definitely my Game Of The Year when it was released. So much love went into making this game and it absolutely shows. Glad you enjoyed the video! :)

[@chillnagasden6190]

@@RPGchallengeruns Absolutely! I was even on PC where the ports tend to be a bit "ehhh" for one reason or another but I was so into it, I just didn't really care. I don't even remember what the issue may have been honestly, haha! Sorely hoping a sequel is in the works, or that future Tales games will follow this kind of formula. That said, actually...! ToA has been out 1,5 years .We might hear some news about *something* soon? I hope?!

[@PriceAintRight]

No way you pulled this off! I've beaten this game and I can't imagine it without artes.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Haha yeah, it really does turn the game into Dark Souls-lite.

[@Frvnklin]

You're an absolute mad man! Respect! 🤣

[@chucheeness7817]

Dark Souls? Ash Lake? how about the _hollowing_ Like how Siegmeyer hollows at the Ash Lake, Migal hollows himself at this lake

[@Kyto1984]

Hate to break it to you, but Kisara is essential immortal if you control her. She can perfect block EVERY ATTACK, including arena-wide DOTs like Vholran's Mystic Arte. After every perfect block, she gets a period where she's completely invincible, and if you can get the timing right, you can chain perfect blocks between attacks while sitting in large attacks and/or stage hazards.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Sounds like we need to do a Solo Kisara run next time!

[@mhbarney8499]

Besides the cool Challenge...this game is really something else when you want an anime like game to be more mature with its characters and behavior. I love it.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Agreed! It's really gripping from start to finish.

[@mrrainkard5905]

Мужик, ты просто чекнутый)) У меня буквально слезы наворачивались от этих тычек на 6-11 дамага с автоатаки)))

[@warpuppy4528]

Since most of your challenge runs so far have involved a lot of grinding when the going gets tough, I would like to see you try to complete a game with strict limits on how much you are allowed to level. As for which game, it looks like you haven't done anything with the Xenoblade series yet. I would also enjoy SMT5, Bravely series, or FF7 Remake.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Xenoblade and FF7R would be great choices - I'll add them to the list. Thanks! :)

[@MisterMelvinheimer]

Smt 5 is great, but levels matter way to much for an smt game there. It would certainly be tough to do a low level run of that game.

[@warpuppy4528]

@@MisterMelvinheimer Do you think so? Personally I feel like SMT5 has a lot of potential for it. You can completely null damage if you have good affinities for the bosses, and even if you are low level you can survive pretty much anything if you can maintain 2 stacks of Tarunda/Fang Break on your enemies.

[@MisterMelvinheimer]

@@warpuppy4528 definitely. Not impossible probably. 5 in particular has percent based bonuses to attack and def based on how much higher or lower lvl you are. Twas quite annoying for the reasons you mentioned.

[@DevyDevDev]

Late to the party! Fantastic Vid! & love this game! its beautiful! GG You deserve much more attention ! You should do A FF 9 Challenge vid :D

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thank you!! 😀 Yes FF9 is definitely on the "to do" list! We've also got FF7 and Persona 5 Strikers coming very soon.

[@DevyDevDev]

@@RPGchallengeruns Nice! Can't wait mate!

[@stpieraf]

Great video! Agree 100% on all points. Have you ever played Suikoden 2? Lucca Blight should have been thrown into this even though this was about Final Fantasy.. Dude was an awesome villain.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Sadly never played that one! Is it still worth playing in 2023?

[@stpieraf]

@@RPGchallengeruns As far as I'm concerned, for the story, yes. There is a remaster coming out soon if you want to see it amped up a bit. 😁

[@stpieraf]

@@RPGchallengeruns ... Annnnnddd I just realized I replied to the complete wrong video.... So sorry! Suikoden 2 is still a great game though.. Just probably not for a challenge run!

[@judetreanor7113]

Dude if you keep putting out bangers like this you'll do great. I would recommend trying to jump on never games and get views of the hype

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah maybe :) The problem with newer games is that less people have finished them, whereas people have a lot of nostalgia for older games. I'll keep trying different stuff and see what works. :)

[@judetreanor7113]

@@RPGchallengeruns I get what you mean but some one off videos of you just trying new popular games will get new people to your channel and give your channel some variety. Whatever you do I'm sure it will be great

[@DuDWooFeR27]

You are a legend my man

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Nay - you, said viewer, are the Legend! Thanks for checking out the video. :)

[@elleeVee]

when i finished this game it hit me so hard, i was actually so sad i couldnt keep playing with these characters

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah the story is sad but also really moving. Absolutely love this game.

[@PwnySlaystation01]

Haven't finished watching but I can't believe you attempted this. Just on the face of it, this seems like one of the hardest RPG challenges I could think of. The game isn't exactly easy to begin with and artes are such a key part of the mechanics.... Also, I seem to remember big XP dropoff like it seems grinding wouldn't be fast or super beneficial. No healing, low damage etc. You're a brave one! EDIT: God, I'm thinking about the swordmaster boss... Can't remember his name, but the one you fight multiple times. I remember him being quite a challenge even with artes

[@PwnySlaystation01]

I don't think using the artes in the mystic artes tutorial is a fail. In these types of challenges, any scripted event where you're forced to do something outside of the challenge is OK by me

[@PwnySlaystation01]

Wow, well done.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, yeah this one was SUPER tough and grindy! I'm really proud of this run, but it's one of my worst performing videos on KZbin. Shame really! Thanks for the support! :)

[@pocketinfinity6733]

this is my first time seeing a Tales of Arise challenge run, are you planning on doing more, possibly with other Tales games?

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Would absolutely LOVE to! Berseria and Vesperia will probably be next. :)

[@holydezmondgamez1728]

Honestly I don't count scripted or forced uses that have no way to be skipped as that will always be an auto fail. Unless some speedrunners or expoit is founded out I don't think they should count

[@RPGchallengeruns]

That's fair. Thanks for the support! :)

[@espada9000]

38:20 Yeah I'm pretty sure FF16 will do the same. At least I'm expecting that to be the case.

[@tribolt6809]

You should come back to this and attempt the otherworld dungeon completion with no arts💀

[@raythemenace1]

The Mystic Artes Tutorial Fight doesnt count bc it a unskippable tutorial and it used for new players just getting into the game. In my eyes Challenge isnt failed due to a tutorial meant for new players

[@RPGchallengeruns]

I think you're right, that was my feeling too. Thanks for the support! :)

[@raythemenace1]

@@RPGchallengeruns Keep up the Great Work

[@Mihnhim]

Agree my dud, you only used it cause the game hard locked you

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Youre one of the few channels I don't have to watch at 1.25 speed

[@SuperMrJabber]

Pretty insane challenge. However, it appears that you're not aware that there is a way to swap on dead members with living member while in battle. It comes with drawbacks but can be very useful when bosses are on their last leg. This could probably be game changing here !

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah that's something I mentioned later in the run, during the 4th boss fight I believe. In most circumstances, swapping a party member in just resulted in them quickly dying, meaning access to 1 less Boost Attack. Gotta trust yourself more than the AI in this game, because they can be kinda braindead haha.

[@JohnRambo1947-July-6th]

You are the god of this game 🎮 🙌

[@RPGchallengeruns]

You're very kind! Thanks for coming along for the ride. :)

[@JohnRambo1947-July-6th]

​@RPG Challenge Runs I'm amazed you did it!!! I would have given up. Not only is it difficult, but I love using my Artes, lol. That Ganabelt fight, dps check with no Artes, is insane, lol.

[@Andrew-Gomez904]

a ysviii challenge would be dope!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Ooh good call, that game is awesome!!

[@Mooshymush]

LETS GOOOO I LOVE TALES OF ARISE

[@mikec5400]

Is that devil jin as the chaos mode statuette?

[@godsplayingfield]

i suppose the most useful DLC’s in this run would have been 99 held items and the two that make crafting and cooking only need one of each material. but then each fight would be more a war of attrition than skill i suppose…. having 99 gels of each type is a bit cheap lol (and after seeing how much grinding you did, i dont think X2 exp would be a bad thing eithe…) for reference, the blob in the sewers is a huge ability check even in regular playthroughs. that fcker is one of the hardest bosses in the game mainly due to how spongy and magic happy it and it’s minions are for your limited party potential at the time, certainly in terms of main story bosses it’s up there as a major road block.

[@drantino]

so the mystic arte tutorial, tales series in my experience effectivly hard code it so you need to pull it off once to actually have it done, and even in the rare case of you somehow killing the enemy, might just infinite spawn them. would have to look into this game more to know which case it is, but unless you can skip that tutorial, im fairly sure its hard stuck. one thing i can say that helps with dealing with enemys in this game, a tone of attacks like long lasting aoe attacks you can dodge into repeatedly to trigger counter attack over and over creating instances you can just ignore damage for large piriods of time, this game me through so much of the game because how spamable it was sometimes. now i could of missed this, but any particular reason of why only alphen? you never said any restrictions, and i know all the melee chars basicly are a good go to for control. not to mention dohalim and laws dmg output for there mechanics that boost from dodging and not taking damage well doing seccessive hits respectivly to match alphens flame sword dmg would probably be better when you can use them since you dont use any extended flame sword attacks because there artes, and if hes in the reserve he can be used as a knockdown boost attack that takes away his hp without needing to heal him for worry of dying(gotta love dumping all your hp for those flame sword attacks, and alphen is my theory why cure points exists)

[@AkagariShinnosei]

I was also stuck in the sewers in cyslodia for forever and it took me like 20 tries to deafest that boss

[@Chiraqtown1]

This was my first tales game I ever played I got the platinum now I’ve been playing tales of bersia it’s my favorite one but I’m 100 hours in after months of putting it on the back burning n I’m not even finished on that game plus that platnium is insane too lol

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Nice! I love Berseria, the characters and gameplay are awesome. Keep going - you can definitely get the Platinum! You got this! :)

[@steponit]

14:17 the subtitles there are from the Japanese VO, hence them not matching the English VO's, I think? Also, I don't feel like a run is failed when the game forces you to use a basic/default mechanic and won't let you pass otherwise. It's got nothing to do with the difficulty of the run you're doing and is really just that, a tutorial. Doesn't matter, in my opinion. Like in the ff15 run where you literally could not pass a fight unless you warped across a fence... it's not like you used the skill for anything other than passing said event so it's fine.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Totally agree, thanks! :)

[@SergeiAvdoshkin]

You cannot lose the 2nd half of final confrontation against Vholran.

[@Darkwarp1994]

Huh idk if this would count but I understand no dlcs via exp power or defense boosts free lvl ups and I guess free heal items but should that rule include cosmetics mainly outfits?

[@Darkwarp1994]

Btw for challenges like this I never count the tutorials they are a simple pass as your unable to continue without doing them it's like trying to do a no death run then you run into a boss fight were to continue the story you have to die to progress a lot of people overlook stuff like that cause it's how the story plays out

[@Kylesico912x]

In defense of Cysodin, in real life we do call New York's capital New York.

[@stefantherainbowphoenix]

Actually, the capital of New York is Albany. Better examples are Luxembourg, Mexico and Guatemala.

[@Yokopalu]

No one would've said anything if you didn't do it in Chaos Mode you mad man xD

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Well, gotta keep things interesting! ;)

[@carlackersii]

As someone who just beat the game, this sounds like actual hell

[@RPGchallengeruns]

But it was surprisingly fun! ... mostly XD

[@ayayukio7608]

I need to come back and watch this after I beat arise

[@RPGchallengeruns]

"Save to watch later" :) Good luck on your journey! You're gonna love it!

[@ayayukio7608]

I watched this after beating arise and im in awe. fucking insane

[@Flarztheburningsoul]

I've got a challenge idea playthrough SAO Fatal Bullet using only the Procyon's.

[@somebody4952]

Take a shot every time he says "massive damage"

[@RPGchallengeruns]

YES!! Let's make that a thing from now on! XD

[@providence1517]

Honeslty, the QA problem doesn't just apply to this game. Some of the games from Bandai seems to have this issue. The Digimon series had oodles of them, even up to Digimon Survive.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah they really need to sort themselves out! It's like if you spot a typo when reading a book - it's not a major problem but just comes across as a bit unpolished, like no-one even checked it haha.

[@forgetfulcloud1914]

Why did I read Artes as "Ar-teez" like it was the name of a character you weren't going to use

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Arteez actually sounds like a cool character name!

[@blackboysean1139]

Also against vholran if you time your dodges right you can dodge the attack

[@giantpopeg9986]

4:42 what’s a potato?

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Who knows! 😆

[@addaku]

I forgot i played this game subbed

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Thanks, hope you enjoy the future content! ^^

[@addaku]

@@RPGchallengeruns while I did subscribe, I actually meant that i played with the Japanese voices. Which seems to have been a good decision on my part. I first saw your persona 4 slime only run a while ago, and came back when I saw you do an ff12 and ff13 run. 12 and 13 were my first final fantasy games and i love them both. You don't see a lot of people do runs of those games, so it was a delight to see. Anyway, keep up the great work!

[@albertopasetti4538]

MASSIVE DAMAGEH!!!!!!!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

**MASSIVE DAMAGE!!**

[@EvanFarshadow]

Honestly I'd have been fine with the cosmetic only DLC, so long as you don't use the titles and arts that come with the Warring States, School, or Swimsuit outfits. As long as nothing from a paid DLC is used that has a mechanical benefit (SAO and SNX as well as the difficulty DLCs are free)

[@RPGchallengeruns]

That's fair. TBH I just didn't want to get into a debate in the video about what is acceptable vs unacceptable DLC - much quicker and easier for the audience to understand if I just put a blanket ban on all DLC. But you're right. Cheers for the comment! :)

[@zylorixx810]

I would love to see a run of Tales of Zestiria martial Artes only no armatization or berseria Default artes only runs no Therionization

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Interesting, yeah Berseria sounds like a good one, it's an AWESOME game! I'll add it to the list! :)

[@cexatvpsre2402]

Insane!!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

This was an arduous journey, well done Sir. Have you dipped your toes into Scarlet Nexus?

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Working on it! ;)

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

@@RPGchallengeruns That's awesome! Thanks for the replt.

[@DanielRitchie-qo4mv]

I think he is a fan of the dodgeball movie. Heard him say the 5 Ds of dodgeball feom that movie multiple times lol

[@RPGchallengeruns]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!

[@providence1517]

Also, iirc, you actually can't die in the second half of the final final fight against Vholaren. At that point, you could had easily go ham on him.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Ahhh right I didn't know that, thanks!! :)

[@AkagariShinnosei]

why is that sewer like the hardest place in the game it was the same situation for me

[@brianl1131]

I 100% the game on the difficulty below chaos so when i eo go back this is my next challenge

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Nice, good luck!! 😀

[@rhysdrain-langston9575]

I'm replaying the game and just now noticed the typo in the dialogues, they could have hired better translaters!

[@RPGchallengeruns]

It was even worse on release - I wish I still had the screenshots!

[@grapplesauce9939]

I don’t think the challenge was failed for the scripted Mystic Arte at 16:25, why? Because it’s entirely automated. I know it sounds like I’m pulling this out of my behind, but even though you equipped Sonic Thrust, Demon Fang was used instead, meaning the game chose the Arte itself *for* you, solely for story flair, and not through player input. Essentially all you did was hit play for in battle cutscene. Does it sound a little bull? Yeah it does. But, I say a challenge isn’t failed if the game chooses options for the player, and this is one such case.

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

i would have suggested getting the devil arms but i doubt getting those would be possible but if you could it would give you the highest damage.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Ooooh I think that optional endgame content would've been impossible... maybe XD

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

@@RPGchallengeruns idk. but i always had fun almost one shotting the twins XD

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

@@RPGchallengeruns could have gotten a few of them at least tho.

[@nicknevco215]

Wow never beat this on normal took too long you beat it on chaos in slowmode could never

[@sysmecgoose]

I may be 4 months late but I was able to just perfect dodge every frame on Vholran's giant ice sword attack.

[@sysmecgoose]

Just putting here cause I wasnt thinking but I wasn't trying brag but give a helpful tip.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Nice!! I found it quite difficult to dodge every damage tick of that move, so well done!

[@kasumichanxx8390]

If it’s mandatory it shouldn’t count since it’s not by ur own will that u wanted to do it

[@RPGchallengeruns]

I think you're right, and a lot of other commenters seem to agree with you. Appreciate the support! :)

[@turtlecorp1775]

So when’s the solo no items, no boosts, and no arts run? lol

[@RPGchallengeruns]

... no weapons, no equipment, no moving, no breathing, no blinking, no... XD

[@elleeVee]

its amazing this is even possible, let alone some madman did it

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yep, you've gotta be mad to do this kinda damage to yourself 😆

[@mukuro8033]

Tried it, defeated Baslseph after that I stopped. Its too much,

[@pre-violetmelain2984]

As a rinwell main, that hurts

[@RPGchallengeruns]

We need a Solo Rinwell run of this game!

[@signalflare3791]

Lol, that's how I play pretty much every Tales game, minus chaos difficulty anyway.

[@Ryder.Draconis]

Didn't care too much for the game (Just beat it 2 weeks ago first time). But a couple years from now, I'll play it again but I'll main someone other than Alphen. Any recommendations on who to use?

[@RPGchallengeruns]

If you like playing Healer classes, go with Shionne. If you like Tanks, go with Kisara. Rinwell is similar to Black Mage in FFXIV and can be quite complex/advanced. I haven't played much Dohalim or Law so I can't comment much on those. Hope this helps! :)

[@margok321]

Hi i have 2 challange ideas Beat in kingdom hearts re Chain of memorys the sora story with only blue cards(magic and summons) And beat kingdom heats re Chain of memories with only green cards (Friend and item cards) (dont know if possibil)

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Ahh Kingdom Hearts - gotta love it!! Really surprised more people haven't been suggesting that series actually. I'll see what I can do. :)

[@shirox11]

“More like dark souls than a tales game” don’t underestimate tales games on the highest difficulty, specially a naked run with no kind of boosts or carryover. Also i loved Arise, LOVED it, but damn is grinding in that game horrendous. It takes forever. Even with the dlc boost.

[@beageler]

I seem to remember that, when I played Besaria, I found the camera idiotically tipping up all the time, too. Maybe an idiotic idiosyncrasy of Tales games in general? Especially idiotic in brawlers (which are already the worst kind of rpgs without that). It wasn't that big of a deal for me, since the game is easy enough without good movement and without advanced combos. What killed the game for me was Velvet having that turn out of nowhere into a less interesting plot without any real consequence. Before it was nice, after it was worse and the turn was badly implemented. As to the forced use of an arte: It is obvious that one can't beat the game without artes. But as for a challenge run it is obviously not a fail, challenge runs are in the frame of the game while the question whether the game can be beat without artes is absolute and not limited by what is possible in the game. TL;DR The answer to the question in the video title is obviously "No," but the challenge is not over because the game forces you.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

That's a good summary, I think you're right. As for Berseria, I definitely want to do a run of that game some time in the near future!

[@beageler]

@@RPGchallengeruns I hope I was circumspect enough to not spoil you :-)

[@mikec5400]

This was the first Tales game i actually genuinely enjoyed and understood how to properly use combat. I hate the previous ones especially Zesteria..that game was so bad

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Have you tried Berseria? Berseria was my first and I absolutely loved it - will probably do a run of that game at some point!

[@ShuckleII]

10:47 Cislordia? Wow, what a terrible name haha

[@RPGchallengeruns]

Yeah it's pretty unusual!

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Scripted tutorials dont count as a fail

[@RPGchallengeruns]

I agree, thanks for the support with that one! :)

[@fateriddle14]

Thank for suffering through a meaningless chellange so we can enjoy your suffer.

[@RPGchallengeruns]

You're welcome! Thanks for coming along for the ride. :)

[@prodbyANT]

MASSIVE DAMAGE