Can You Free Fly Small Birds Outside?! | Meet Black Capped Conures Kiwi + Tiki

This video shares the story of Kiwi and Tiki, two older and bonded black capped conures living with their humans Lauren and Jeff, who decide to pursue freeflight with us.
Although we don't normally take on such small freeflight students, Dave had an initial consultation with them and decided they'd be the right fit for the course. To find out if you and your bird can free fly with us, book a freeflight consult!
To learn more about the Telemetry we used on these conures, visit www.birdtricks... keep in mind that although we started both conures out with Telemetry tracking, it was eventually taken off as they flew much better without the units (the units are 3 grams in weight on such a small bird and do make a difference in their flight patterns and can weigh some birds down.)
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MY BIRDS (Oldest to Youngest) 🐦❤
BONDI 💗 Galah | hatched 2005
CRESSI 💗 Congo African Grey | hatched 2007
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JINX 💙 Blue Throat Macaw | hatched 2008
COMET 💙 Yellow-Dominant Camelot Macaw | hatched 2008
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BirdTricks is a husband-wife team; Dave and Jamieleigh Womach specialize in parrot training and companionship.
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[@jessnw5441]

My two 13-year-old green cheeks were EXTREMELY, over-the-top excited by this video... Darn it. Now they know it's possible, I'll never hear the end of it!

[@BirdTricks]

Haha!

[@dg.262]

Adorable 🐦

[@Planespotterdude]

Funny

[@mattthesusoneoutofthegroup]

@@dg.262 low-key adorable

[@nanajanet6118]

You know.....I don’t care how many Freeflight videos I watch. I always LOVE THEM! When you have these sit down talks with the birds parents, it’s so informative! For me, watching the birds fly in slow motion, it’s amazing. I can see the birds take the wind, coast with the wind, you can see the birds navigate their flight patterns. It’s just so beautiful to watch. Thank you to all. ❤️NJ❤️

[@BirdTricks]

Aw thank you!! Sometimes I am unsure if people like the free flight videos since it doesn't necessarily apply to everyone (or at least people think it doesn't) xo

[@nanajanet6118]

@@BirdTricks I LIVE for them! Your photography is really good. Slow motion shows how the bird’s body moves with the wind. And, the owners give everyone else so much insight into free flight. Never stop!❤️NJ❤️

[@MadameMay]

Go ahead and make a wide variety of videos. If that's what u want. U have the knowledge, skills and tips to help a wide variety of people do it! You'll never be able to make everyone happy, but ur helping sooo many and im sure so so appreciated for it. U guys r killin it! From my family and our one baby budgie thank you! We appreciate all the things u do for these feathery families. All the love💖🐦

[@vaiman7777]

@@BirdTricks What are the treats they give from the pouch?

[@learnmoreaboutparrots3432]

@@BirdTricks me too you are so helpful

[@ryanmichalski3490]

“He just face planted a little.......!!” Lol hilarious

[@MeaganD79]

it was huh, cos we've all been there at one time or another lol

[@anwenchen2518]

As soon as I got my 2nd bird (cockatiel) i was like "can I freeflight train her? She is so small!" turns out you can basically freefly train any parrot it just takes lots of time. My cockatiel sydney is now happily freeflying outside now. Btw you have inspired me a lot!

[@arli4406]

Congratulations!!! I'm waiting for my lovebird to hatch, and free fly train him . And lovebirds are even smaller than cockatiels😄

[@KB-df3dq]

Having 2 small birds, this was so fun to watch. “ Go the littlies”. Thankyou for sharing.

[@flyingfox8586]

Having a mostly empty desert around sure helps. With plenty of predators and trees around, free-flight (especially with small birds) can quickly become very problematic, no matter how strong your bond with a bird is. We are now looking for large indoor areas (closed off) that will allow us access.

[@Amanda-vs1lg]

What can go wrong outside on the desert w these small birds?

[@GraceT]

I would love to flight train my kakariki. They fly erratically, like galahs, and are a fun sight to watch them do zoomies. One day!

[@ConfidentCritters]

"Trust your gut but mostly trust Dave" 😂 i have a black cap conure in my flock too and its amazing to see these guys outside. Id be so afraid of her getting in a tree and blinding in lol

[@sharynzoo]

Oh my goodness! I LOVED this video so much 💕 I have been a HUGE fan of BirdTricks for so long & have been so blessed to have them do a couple of KZbin takeovers on my Channel 💕 Anyone who gets lucky enough to work with this amazing couple will realize very quickly they are in the presence of the ultimate Bird Whispers 💕 Lauren & Jeff I really enjoyed experiencing your journey with BirdTricks 💕

[@BirdTricks]

Aw thanks so much, Sharyn!!

[@sharynzoo]

@@BirdTricks 💕😘💕 Love you always 💕

[@vaiman7777]

I have a Ring Neck who hasn't fully trusted me yet, only 2 weeks into my first bird. But we both watched this tonight :) Love the slo mo and I think Billie also like it!

[@littlemidwestrebornsdolls]

I love Birdtricks! I don't even have birds. If, I ever do have one, its BIRDTRICKS all the way!

[@bullythebooks]

My Green Cheeked Conure was named Tiki..I miss him so much

[@SchneidersG]

It’s really inspiring to see such a great bird tutor looking to amend their relationship with their pets!❤❤

[@DRoche911]

I need some encouragement. I’m receiving some pushback from friends and family for letting my green cheek go on his first free flight. Maybe an training course would give everyone the level of trust that’s needed ! 🤷‍♀️

[@arianavail]

OMG IM SO EXCITED TO FINALLY SEE A BCC ON HERE!!! I got my lil guy 124 days ago and have been dying to teach him free flight! (Unfortunately that’s not possible as of right now because he had a very deep wing clip when I got him and has had overpreening issues since then as well (he even plucked when he got sick when Texas froze) I’m hoping to get him there at some point :)

[@christopherfoxworth6621]

Our budgie is loving training activities. He has spends most his time in the house but he will come to me on signal when he is active. This is my number one goal for our lil Lewy.

[@shinso-kun209]

This was far too helpful!!! I have a GCC and have been looking for what to do with him, my ultimate goal has been to freefly him so we can take him on vacation, and so that he can have the right to fly around like a normal bird in the wild, and this was so awesome in boosting my confidence that I can actually make that happen. Thanks!!!

[@Amanda-vs1lg]

Have you free filed your gcc since commenting on this?

[@shinso-kun209]

@@Amanda-vs1lg I have not, but I'm still holding tight to the dream! Thanks so much for commenting, it brought me back to my goal and was an awesome reminder. "To set forward, with renewed vigor!" I hope you have a great day 🥰

[@Amanda-vs1lg]

@@shinso-kun209 I hope you attain your goal. We just got a baby gcc, 3 days ago. She is confidently flying around our house now, and seems pretty tame to me so far. She was on a seed/pellet diet that I’m thinking I’ll need to wean her onto pellet only, so that treats will be more enticing. She loves apple and it seems to be the only food she is drawn to fly or come to us for I’m not sure where to go for detailed info to train her to free fly to where we can safely take her outside with our fear of losing her. @birdtricks any videos you can direct me to for step by step instructions would be helpful? She is so sweet and even loves the kids…

[@divyagupta1561]

Black Capped Conures!!! I guessed correctly Can't wait for it to start ❤️

[@ryanmichalski3490]

“Letting the birds fail” is SO key! Let them figure it out like you said!

[@MsHorsecrazy1]

Loved it. I have a black capped and when I saw the tease for this video a while ago I got so excited.

[@Rico-tx7xk]

Hey Jamie 👋 can we get a video on pacific parrotlets ?

[@sjsisjsjks]

seconded!

[@alexandrianadler7996]

I have been wanting a bird for the longest time, however my current environment isn't suitable for one so I must sadly wait. But when I do get the opportunity to get a beautiful baby one day, BirdTricks video-binge is definitely the way to go. Your videos are so informative and very entertaining. I've learned so much and appreciate all the time you guys put into them. Love your channel and your amazing family!

[@yas9848]

I also have a black capped conure and he’s such a little baby ❤️

[@gracekealoha4525]

Amazing 👏 The 2 babies look like they transformer too along with their parents! They are extremely gorgeous as well! I thought that the mama was so hurt for what she did but im sure they understood why mama did what she did since mama needs to get a great job to afford them a forever lifestyles! 💯

[@ibrahimalharbi6363]

what a wonderful couple ,, great video , fun, informative and heart warming .

[@floridalife-livinginflorid6882]

Ours lives outside, we don’t need to take it to the middle of an uninhabited desert. It sits on my shoulder, it forages in the grass, it has two cardinals that come by to look at it. We have thousands of trees around. In my opinion huge difference.

[@learnmoreaboutparrots3432]

I watched this over and over

[@MadameMay]

Loved this soo many great moments💖

[@tomstones1405]

Hello to you both and all your birds I love you channel and have been looking over most of your vids I myself don't have a bird but I did when I was alot younger but I love all birds keep up your good work with birds you two are fantastic xxxxxxxxxxx

[@ris8065]

Some day I’d like to free flight train my quakers and ringneck, they like being outside, but obviously being in a travel cage or a harness is different than being fully outside😂

[@NancyH25]

Wow! It’s nice to see you’ve changed your minds since you wouldn’t take me on as a free flight student 6 years ago because I had a sun conure. I’ve watched you free fly your own conures outside & often wondered what is the difference between yours & mine? Oh well...

[@ashleyglass9932]

Awww I have a black capped conure I raised since 3 weeks old

[@arbieb2405]

Great info. I have 6 at various ages and levels of training and was hopefully working my way to this but always with some serious doubts about ever taking them into the open. One issue I have in addition to their size and difficulty spotting is that I am red/green color blind and couldn't see them in anything but a while/light background. Lauren and Jeff are my model grail now! They are pioneers for the little parrots!!

[@sootlet8894]

I'm gonna be getting a baby gcc sometime late summer / early fall and I think I'm going to try to free fly train her. I'm currently in school to learn dog training and a lot of those skills can be used with training birds (really any animal. a lot of what they're teaching is used in zoos too) so I'm excited

[@zacharydaniels7041]

Update?

[@sootlet8894]

@@zacharydaniels7041 havent gotten her yet shes still being weaned. should get her in the next week or 2

[@zacharydaniels7041]

@@sootlet8894 let me know your progress

[@cutmilk917]

i just got a black capped conure and she is so sweet, but she is CRAZy when we let her out lol

[@elizabethmarquez689]

Great video and clients! I wish you were closer so I too could take advantage of your services! I guess I'll keep watching your videos in the meantime.

[@BirdTricks]

Where abouts are you located? We work with people all over, even a free flight student in France right now. Have had them in Oz, and all over the US! We make it work!

[@elizabethmarquez689]

@@BirdTricks I am in Massachusetts. I've watched sooo many of your videos and love how Dave and you approach each situation with each different kind of bird! You guys "Rock the flock!!

[@carolhartley4448]

Very nice!! Im watching this video with my conure and every time you use the clicker my bird is looking like, ""are we training???"" Lol but seriously i love your story, Jake is 2 years and 7 months, ive been doing indoor flight training but not outdoors, "yet", little to afraid for the same reasons you stated!! We will see, i want to.👍👍♥️♥️♥️🤣

[@Emilia-uq3ph]

I'd love to freefly my eclectus but I'm too scared to try teach it on my own so I'll stick to a harness for now. Maybe i could try find a big indoor area to fly him in.

[@deboras7233]

a very interesting video, most people flight training there birds trust Dave more than themselves 😅

[@InitialFailure]

The whole bit about grad school was definitely needed for understanding small birds and free flight. Then there's how you try to do the best for your birds, very few people even think about treating their animals well. Truly all sage wisdom. Then the input from your clearly LGBTQ partner; so strong, so brave and so informative. 👏 👏 👏

[@missluna]

This is so entertaining. Personally I would never be able to free flight train my baby conure in my city. Too many hawks living in my area

[@ladyangelic]

Black caps!! 😍

[@covilanimal9461]

Very nice interview

[@User22181]

I think it’s actually safer to free fly small birds that to free fly big birds. Because I think that birds like hawks would rather try to catch an big bird so he gets a lot of food, than to catch that very quick and nimble small bird that it wouldn’t even be worth the effort because,well, the hawk will not get a lot of food

[@Dehzee]

I have a sad memory of walking down the side of my house, and somebody's loose budgie saw me and flew straight to me. He didnt make it, a crow dived and decapitated him. Then moved on, not even stopping to examine the corpse.

[@positivebird0004]

the budgy was probably in the crows terratorium. Crows even attack bald eagles that are not wild they basicly attack every bird if they are in there terratorium.

[@Dehzee]

@@positivebird0004 where in the city isn't a crow's territory?

[@alex7344]

I have a Quaker and a Linnie, and I'm wondering what I can do about training them with the same clicker? I noticed that when I train my Quaker for instance, if the Linnie is in ear-shot he'll perk up and I'm worried he'll become desensitised to the clicker and become unmotived? Should I be completely separating the birds to train one-on-one or am I over-thinking it?

[@sjsisjsjks]

Never used a clicker with a bird but with dogs we use different clicker brands for each so they each have their own sound

[@samoatodd8730]

So Cool 😎

[@janinehenderson854]

These guys are cute. I have a rescue wild bird and that first step of free flight is the hardest. Are they going to be ok. Are they going to be able to find home. etc etc.. Just gotta have trust in your friend and give him a chance.

[@amsnadwich]

I am so scared to get into this with my meyers because of the birds of prey and natives in Australia, it just seems too risky to free fly small birds in AUS.

[@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness]

Probably true. I think that’s why Jamie and David go way out into the Idaho desert where they know there aren’t a lot of places with predatory birds

[@zacharydaniels7041]

There’s gotta be an area in aus that’s more flat, free of trees and such if you’re confident that he’s ready

[@josephine9986]

I wanna free fly my green cheek conure so bad but I’ve always been scared to even try because 1 I’m not a trainer and 2 she’s small and green lol

[@kellyscrazymacawhouse9951]

I want to get my birds into free flight so bad with Jaimeleigh & Dave but just don’t have to financial Freedom for this and I know my birds deserve anything in my power that I am able to do for them!! I will make it happen!! We hold a Bird fair every year in Mobile and do multiple yearly donations to different rescues and my mother is the Vice President of South Alabama Caged Bird Society so maybe I can ask the club for some advice on maybe some type of sponsorship for them!!!

[@sootlet8894]

how do you determine what is and isnt a safe place to freeflight

[@Wanderinghead]

What is that on his tail?

[@kolin0919]

Jamie I wanted your opinion. Please❤️. I just got a baby green cheek he was hatched March 25 so he is quite young. I plan on doing all the training stuff you guys teach and I’m gona by your food system book on payday. I want my bird to be able to be the best bird. My question is should I cover his cage. He is in the living room and we do stay quit but he will have his own room in like 2 moths

[@gmasterc3435]

Man my bird is such a problem bird but I I am working through recall training

[@OWK000]

Scared of the clock from work. Me too!

[@kendrafries3996]

can you talk more a bout or show more about the coming on process. how you chose a free flight candidate? What the personal experience feels like starting the process with you guys and the start of free flying older birds? i have 2 conures i want to free flight train. want more insight for when im ready to take the course.

[@BirdTricks]

Hi Kendra, that is all established on your initial consult with us. We take that time to evaluate where you are at with your birds and what your dynamic looks like, and whether that will mesh with our teaching style and flight training schedule and time commitment.

[@samuelkubulins2082]

I was considering getting either a green wing or African Grey. Do you guys think that the green wing would respond better to flight training? I'm honestly between the two breeds because they're both very intelligent, but I ultimately would want to work with my bird and train them as much as I can (with time, of course). Thanks!

[@daisymartinez982]

Hey I just wanted to know what are those rings leash called. The one we're you put some kind of ring on there leg and it has some kind of leash attack on it and do they come in budgie size

[@-sela]

Huh? Are you referring to their leg band if so leg bands are for identification and other stuff not for a leash

[@daisymartinez982]

@@-selakzbin.info/www/bejne/kGK5iIuXoN59psk It's something like this

[@-sela]

@@daisymartinez982 I have never heard of those before sorry

[@daisymartinez982]

@@-sela it's ok I'll need to do more research but thanks you

[@TheMariepi3]

The interesting thing would be to maintain a minimally intelligible conversation with a parrot, for the parrot to reason, for example, to say: what food do you prefer, peanuts or cashews ?, and the parrot to reply: I tell you the truth: I prefer humble sunflower seeds

[@casdunn6707]

I can't freely my conures here. I live in the country and we have so many hawks.

[@THEE.apples]

I knew it

[@ArAbramov]

Can I get the training in Canada 🇨🇦?

[@birdbrain3594]

Dave had a freeflight student in Australia. The course on the Birdtricks .com website says the 6 grand covers a couple in home visits/ consults during the 3 months. But then if you wanted to do the Freestyle Fliers trip to Moab with everyone else, you'd have to take your birds across the border and factor in your travel expenses. The first while, you do video chats & send videos of your training to them before speaking on facetime about where you are and how to improve. If you email [e-mail] I'm sure someone can help guide you. Good luck! I'm also in Canada, trying to slowly save up and prepare my Goffin.

[@yashasveetrivedi1153]

Hey, I have two alexandrine parakeets and whenever I try to train them, they fly away. (I really don't want to clip their wings) how should I train them to step up and not fly around?

[@elizashrestha6826]

Don't clip them!! It might seem like a good idea but your bird will lose any trust you've built so far. Just be patience you will get there 😊 Try target training or just start giving treats when your bird is near you

[@yoyoli11w72]

I have a quaker parrot, where can I get those gps they were using on their birds

[@BirdTricks]

www.birdtricksgps.com

[@loulou1248]

I wanna free flight my jenday. But I’m scared I’d lose her forever

[@MissRuthina]

So you're saying you can free flight little birds? Budgies? Cockatiels?

[@bidenisasnake9932]

None of my birds are allowed OUTside with wings. To many frightful events with Hawks.

[@matthewball8188]

Hi, I love your videos and I'm getting a green cheek conure but the prices are really high so is there someplace where you could get one for 300 or 200 if there is that would really help also can you do a video on green cheek conure care.

[@BirdTricks]

Perhaps a rescue?

[@joshj6815]

Tell your conure your name and they might call by name.

[@aanchalsomani2431]

Can you freefly budgies?

[@period.9260]

Inside only. Not a good idea to freefly tiny birds outside. Predators will chase and see them as food. Too stressful for the little guys. They don’t have a fighting chance against a big predatory bird. They can “free flight” inside your home and feel exercised, unlike a bigger bird

[@learnmoreaboutparrots3432]

I heard conures don’t really talk

[@blackpepe]

pretty messed up you abandoned them for 6 years.

[@yumi456]

Yes sure you can. But it's more dangerous.

[@-sela]

I can only face palm so many times

[@yumi456]

@@-sela even birdtricks themselfs say it's more dangerous.

[@keenanAvery-dj8kk]

so lame

[@mellydogtraining]

Absolutely Love watching all your videos!!! I am so bummed I only just saw you guys came to Australia I would of loved to of had training with BirdTricks. Is there a free flight trainer you know of in Australia that you would recommend as I am wanting to free fly my Galah but want to do it with a trainer in person.

[@TwiceShearedSheep]

Thank you so much for this video! We just got our first bird - a black capped conure baby named Yoshi. It's so awesome to see other tiny green friends out there flying.

[@futurefreefliers5861]

I'm starting a project to get budgies and their owners into free flight. They are underrated creatures with a big personality. Sadly I will do this only in my country (Italy) and so if you are Italian too.... Ciao!!!!

[@futurefreefliers5861]

@Sofia Mainardis ciao :D

[@futurefreefliers5861]

@Sofia Mainardis do you have a Budgie?

[@futurefreefliers5861]

@Sofia Mainardis cool!!!

[@jessicasnow9382]

This amazing! Love it! I dream of flying my green cheek conure one day. But for now I’ll just keep practicing indoors and saving up for those lessons!! Y’all do amazing work and I am always sending people to your site and KZbin page!

[@cleo751]

Love the conures! So busy and funny personalities not to mention their amazing colors!🥰

[@parismiles4168]

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience to me. I have a 5 month old Quaker parrot hen. Hopi has toilet trained herself! I noticed she would flap her wings periodically when she sat on my shoulder and felt she was trying to communicate something to me. I tried putting her in her cage when she would do it thinking she might be tired and she pooped straight away. The next time she flapped I put her in again and she pooped straight away again. I gave her a seed as a reward and she hasn't pooped on me since! Every time she flaps her wings I put her in her cage and she poops like clockwork. I am stoked! I haven't had a bird before but she seems extremely intelligent by any species standard... including human haha. Looking forward to flight training her!

[@Jessicahurst1]

Same here! My Quaker Turkey still poops occasionally outside the cage, but he basically trained himself to go back to the cage to poop when he got older (he’s a year and change now). It’s amazing. I was preparing for a difficult bird that poops everywhere, he’s slightly disabled with his feet, but a total dream. Vocabulary growing by the day, and super affectionate as well as being an exceptional flyer. He hovers, does recall, turns etc. I want to free fly him so much, but I’m so scared to lose him.

[@jongmo9069]

Hi, I wish you would address the double standards practiced by large parrot owners always discouraging owners of small parrots like conures, cockatiels, budgies, lovebirds, etc. While no no one is denying that they are more prone to predator attacks and harder to track, the truth is the the risk exists for EVERY BIRD. They can't just conveniently dismiss free flying smaller birds just because it's convenient for them and less dangerous for their bigger parrots...it's rather hypocritical. The important thing is that the owners are fully aware of the risks, not take greater risks when there is clear and present danger. There are TONS of of people, especially in Asian countries, that free flight smaller birds very successfully, with smaller and bigger parrots. No one is discouraging indoor flight training, but those who aspire to free flight, regardless of the bird size, should receive the adequate support, along with the hazards that come with it. I hope you address this controversial issue as most people there own smaller birds than bigger birds.

[@gigimelov5090]

I was hoping so bad that this video would be about black caps and I’m so excited that it is!

[@BirdTricks]

Yay!!

[@monicap1717]

Our Gyro is very intelligent as well. And tries hard and she had tons of drive. The spook and bolt concerns me as well, But she does come to me when called. Getting there!!

[@taylorjustice6462]

Do green cheeks and black caps have similar temperaments ?

[@Picklezsaur]

So adorable. I will hopefully get a pineapple conure in the future, and I would love to free flight them!

[@HeyCutie90]

I have one and I’m currently debating free flight training. She’s my best friend and sticks to me like Velcro in the house, but I’m apprehensive she’ll feel the call of the wild and fly off. I’d be so worried if she flew off.

[@Agoraphobic_Luv]

I love this type of content 😌♥️😌

[@BirdTricks]

Thank you! I'm glad!

[@Agoraphobic_Luv]

@@BirdTricks You’re welcome 😊😄 It’s fun to watch, while also being informative. 🥰

[@AyaadhAmeen]

Cant wait for the video to start jaimi

[@asim.hussain8222]

Can you do a video of training Indian ring necks it’s one bird which doesn’t get enough attention but a lot of bird owners own like me

[@BirdTricks]

I will be releasing my Touche series this year, he is an Indian ringneck!

[@bkm2797]

Great job! Love hearing the stories and experience of BirdTricks flight school. Lauren and Jeff appear to be really good students, as well as Kiwi and Tiki. Wishing all the best in your future flights with your babies, and your new friends Dave and Jaime.

[@mariemcgrath8681]

Agree beautiful to watch. I would be too scared to let my conure free fly outside....I would be the nervous One, not my bird !

[@RosieandFriends1]

What areas can you free fly your birds?

[@coennos7443]

Can jou see when a birds to po?

[@umangjoshi4654]

Hey Jamie, I want to get a Scarlet Macaw but I have heard that they have a nippy personality in general. How much of it is true or does it just depend on the individual bird? And if so should I think about getting another species?

[@-sela]

They are sometimes nippy but all types of birds are nippy so I don’t think that should be the reason you don’t get one

[@Spiritualpanda2]

I love this!!

[@mariyothemacawaligarh1954]

Beautiful

[@kamrunnasrin2782]

❤️💙

[@jimmyjames_yt]

Why don’t you fly your birds at your local park❓

[@deeznuts4488]

Do you know how I could possibly tell me a way in order to tame my birds that can’t be touched at all? They are in the same enclosure and are potential mates they are really dependent on each other. They used to be mellow and feel comfortable with us but now both of them strike at anyone even getting close to them. If someone tries to pet them, the other will attack

[@deeznuts4488]

And problem is that they are not scared and just want to bite us

[@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness]

Keep their food in your hand and have them see your hand as a source of food. I only fed my small birds from the palm of my hands and my fingertips for the first few weeks.