Can You Identify As Transracial? | Would You Rather | Channel 4

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[@Vik-hm4bi]

"I got surgery to have more of a Korean aesthetic" This sentence is just wrong. I'm not Korean, but calling a minority group/culture an "aesthetic" is just unacceptable. You can speak the language, live there, and respect the culture, but claiming that you are any other race other than your own because you like the "aesthetic" is not and will never be acceptable, just offensive. I just hope he realizes how much harm he's really causing.

[@feliyune5073]

as a korean, thank you.

[@glamglam8347]

literally the epitome of white supremacy. they shame poc until they love it thats when it becomes an aesthetic. reminds me of when they loved making fun of Asians eyes but now white women are spending billions on surgery to get the "fox eye"

[@haeuneun_]

yes, thank you. sometimes i feel like i can’t really say cause i’m korean so it sounds like “i’m just a korean complaining” but hearing non-koreans saying it helps.

[@MsDudette21]

this is how society sees transpeople but people will argue it's different. no its not. one can argue race isnt real BUT dna is and if youre ancestors dont come from certain areas then youre not said race

[@MsDudette21]

@@harley1248 y are u playing dumb and acting like udk it's essentially the same argument? No amount of surgery will change your gender or race. They are both part of your DNA and it's dishonest to try to pass as something else. You're just mad cuz uk its a good comparison but ppl like u wanna act like you didn't bring this shit upon yourselves. U Sanna tolerate harmful lies yet are surprised some ppl wanna proclam their transracial

[@Ryu-yt9gt]

the audacity to identify as korean but wearing cornrows in front of a black woman... im actually screaming

[@asmrfoodieuk7965]

Anyone can have cornrows, nobody owns a hairstyle ffs.

[@skwigelfwar]

@@asmrfoodieuk7965 shes literally black and he thinks he's "korean"

[@asmrfoodieuk7965]

@@goldennel2349 who cares if it was created by black people? The kilt was created in scotland but anyone can wear one.

[@asmrfoodieuk7965]

@@_Yeeboi_ I suppose pulling back tight in a pony tail will also "weaken the hair" too. Never heard such nonsense, hair sheds a d regrows all the time, no such thing as will weaken the hair 😆😆😆 if that were true any white person with cornrows would now be bald!

[@goldennel2349]

@@asmrfoodieuk7965 as a black person i can tell you that olly does not look good in them trust me. I've seen better. The cornrows look glued on to his scalp

[@remedy1858]

"I'll accept you as non-binary but not as Korean" 😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂

[@fifi24hgf]

Crack is wack😂😂. Stay away from drugs kids😂😂

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

At least Korean is an actual physical thing.

[@willman9567]

The rules do seem strange

[@thelordofliberty6984]

Exactly. For every argument she used to dismantle Olly as a Korean, she could have used the same arguments to dismantle Lia Thomas's claim of womanhood.

[@remedy1858]

@@fifi24hgf That is her thought process not mine.

[@yashvardhantomar2259]

I'm actually a kid, but i was born in an adult's body.....I'm transparent.

[@trose4253]

Thank u this made me smile 😊

[@blaze5295]

Na how’s this only got 50 likes! I’m howling 💀

[@dr.rothotnik]

That actually is a real thing, it’s called transage😭

[@melly2246]

He isn’t appreciating “Korean” culture but is rather “stereotyping” Asian culture. He doesn’t know anything beside “K-POP” “anime” and “kawaii/cute” and is literally stereotyping Asians

[@namjoonussy1776]

He knows what his doing, there is a leak recording of him doing it for clout and talking about how ppl actually believe him

[@petranz0335]

@@namjoonussy1776 sheesh.... That's pathetic

[@cloudyminn]

@@namjoonussy1776 WHAT-

[@keshnashree2392]

Exactly I bet oil would say Indians aren’t asians lmao

[@milkfangg]

@@keshnashree2392 oh yes they would 100% say it most koreaboos tend to do that

[@ayem8709]

i don't know how she managed to keep a straight face and not laugh at his delusions, it's a gift

[@anotherpointofview222]

She can keep a straight face...Because she was operating in a delusion of her own. A delusion, she believes in, as strong as, but more delusional, than the one he believed in. What delusion you might ask? Her so called "blacknness" Her "Black" racialized identity. And I think she despised the FACT that he could choose his own "race", racial identity, and cultural affiliation, without anyone's permission. To her this is Proof of so-called "white supremacy/superiority." "White" people's most powerful myth that "Black people" worship religiously. In truth he's not "transracial" because in truth "race" doesn't exist. Race is a reality, constructed from the concept of race. Imposed by a dominant society, from which so-called "black" people can't escape. It's this person's freedom, his ability to alter his reality by choice. Something some people can't imagine actually exist, because their race based reality has no place for that kind of free thinking.

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

I felt the same way when Ben Shapiro spoke with Bruce Jenner. He must have been holding his laughter in so much.

[@ween2015]

They have the same delusions

[@anotherpointofview222]

@@ween2015 To not become a victim of delusions takes a lot. Courage, to question your own beliefs, Patience to try and understand others "truths", and not to believe only what you Want to believe.

[@straightfire6390]

Because she's a genuinely upset moralizer. So he identifies as korean, it's cringe but who cares. It's not more delusional than transgenderism.

[@stansolo1298]

I identify as someone who got the 5 minutes and 22 seconds of their life back after watching this video. I am so much happier.

[@ace90200]

😂😂

[@matthewg7069]

100%. If this is the genuine topic of a debate that gets this much attention, then we're really getting down to first world problems.

[@ceasarsaran8573]

That is really not very clever of you. Because this is going to happen. If men can get the advantages of being women, or women can get the advantages of being men by being trans, then so too can black and white people.

[@glynn3331]

Hahahaah

[@MartsMcfly]

How did you get it back after watching the video? It's already gone 😂

[@solongfairwellkim]

I'm Korean and I don't mind as long as he pays taxes and does his military duty, etc. Dude, you can be a real Korean boy!

[@videostreaming4232]

- agreed

[@angel784]

I doubt he would survive a day in the military camp🤣💚

[@lvinchoi4289]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅅㅂ 쟨 그냥 케이팝 열풍에 숟가락 얹고싶었던 관종임ㅋㅋㅋ

[@TheGuitarist666]

​@@angel784 that's my exact thought, let alone any kind of boot camp or training, man will become ashes😂

[@DrAlexisM]

❤❤❤

[@user-ex1ev4ku8h]

As a Korean this is so offensive. He’s not appreciating our culture he is mocking us and rather disrespecting our culture. He doesn’t know our history and the pain that our people went through, plus the pain we are going through now. I’m positive he doesn’t even know that North Korean exists. Gosh this is so offensive.

[@Carsick8]

Imagine how i feel, White people are a minority in london now because of the africans like the women on screen pretending to be British

[@harringt100]

I don't like this guy either, but I am sure he knows that North Korea exists. He doesn't mention it because it's not really relevant to discussion.

[@sweetlistenings3324]

@@celestialmorpho How are you going to tell someone who is Korean they don't understand?

[@ivonaobretkovic5920]

@Oshan Shan Shan Ok that’s true but they do things that are very offensive. They do things like this for fame and publicly like on TikTok where just because he defines himself as Korean can be any person from the kpop industry, like Jimin for example. He "married" carbord Jimin and later divorced, saying that it hurt him a lot and that "Carbord Jimin" no longer talks to him.Do you really think thata not offensive for Jimin? Or any other kpop idol that he "pretended" to be on tiktok.

[@wikiwikiwee1]

He’s like a k-pop weaboo

[@jos.3649]

She bodied him. She literally ate him up and spat him out.

[@SumThatSooli]

As she should. Plastic doesn't taste good

[@ween2015]

Not really

[@BellicIV]

You transracist bigot!

[@naevis2863]

@@ween2015 yes she did argue with the wall😘 !!

[@ween2015]

@@naevis2863 “her” logic is very inconsistent. Change a few words and her argument goes against herself.

[@dotdot5906]

I think with this "accept peoples whatever they identify with" starts heavily ignoring a concept known as _mental health_ , like, soon a person will go to public and say there are wоrms under their skin and they need a shаrp object to pull them out and everyone will be "well this doesn't hаrm me and they feel this way probably means we shouldn't intervene anyhow, here's the knifе"

[@devin3522]

"i engage with korean culture but i will always be a black woman." i love her i love her i love her

[@Chanmax2801]

We all do!

[@c.m1772]

I love that she said that! I was clapping and cheering her on when she kept her ground against the alien.

[@aestheticvalen8167]

@Manroe Blokeof why tf you trolling lmao

[@wvee7577]

@Manroe Blokeof biology my friend, biology.

[@puffypenguin420]

She was talking straight facts! I am a white woman and love the Korean culture but I know ill always be a white woman. Oli has always done nothing but try to get attention. This woman did an amazing job with standing up for the Korean culture and herself! I need a friend like her lol..

[@NammCat]

“I identify as Korean” but wears cornrows? The math ain’t mathing rn

[@celestialmorpho]

koreans can wear cornrows? don’t see the connection between someone’s race and their hairstyle.

[@michaelluvsyouu7720]

@@celestialmorpho It’s more of a cultural concept rather than race.

[@Carsick8]

Black women wear weave and pretend they have straight European hair

[@ghastlycandle]

@Manroe Blokeof that's a different argument lol

[@crunchnmunchsweettreats]

@@celestialmorpho Koreans cannot wear cornrows actually, it’s cultural appropriation

[@markcroydon3195]

I have Black Aboriginal Australian, White Australian, White Irish, White Scottish and White English ancestry. I am Black and I am White. "RACE" is not a real category. There are populations of humans with some genetic differences. We are all part of the same race. HUMAN.

[@TheAArmstrong]

So you’re actually racially fluid then

[@MaksFaks-kl1zj]

I mean fair enough, though me thinks race is real because some people not look like me tribe, therefore they different. See, I am smurt!💪💯

[@katiaboumalhab5816]

Loving a culture,tradition,food, language didn't mean that you are from that ethnicity or that country .

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Loving a gender’s clothing, tradition, roles or aesthetic doesn’t mean that you are apart of that gender.

[@danbi8885]

as a korean i find this extremely offensive. clearly this white person is not appreciating our culture but mocking all asian cultures (just watch their music videos where they can not even separate japanese culture with korean culture). the woman in the video is completely right. she actually understands how idiotic this truly is. i have so much respect for her and fully support her argument. i understand if they like and appreciates our culture but CLAIMING that they are korean, changing their appearance to be stereotypically “korean” and many more? that is just fucking disrespectful. it is not possible to change your race/ethnicity. get all the surgery you want; you are a british white person with no awareness of how you are hurting more people - you are not saving us.

[@tacotator2358]

Kinda like when a man thinks he can be a woman?

[@derkatwork33]

The left eating itself alive as their argument becomes untenable? Love it.

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

@@savant3603 Google it. Race is a social construct so it is fluid. You are just being bigoted. You just aren't accepting how this person feels on the inside. Bigot.

[@kovquette]

I’m Chinese and I definitely understand how disgusting and disrespectful this is like. Please you’re not helping anyone

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

@@kovquette I identify as Chinese. How dare you take away from who I am. I studied Chinese and dog eating in Taiwan for 6 months. Race is a social construct. It is fluid like gender. Fight me. You are bigoted and ignorant if you think otherwise.

[@garryonef4679]

I'm shocked by all the people actually supporting this absolute nonsense. If a white woman surgically darkens her skin and starts speaking with a "blaccent", she can identify as transracial black? No, she masquerading as HER INTERPRETATION of what a black person is, which is textbook blackface and it's extremely offensive. Appreciate other cultures from the outside. Adopt parts of certain cultures. Educate yourself on them. You still can't just choose to be another race. The fact that some people are actually debating this is terrifying.

[@cids1599]

Look, truly I understand that all of this could provoke frustration, or anger but in the grand scheme of things all this becomes trivial. Even if there was 20,000 people whom felt like this young gentleman, there are billions of people on Earth who don't feel the same, yet have their own identity. These billions of people struggle with religious and political identity. I mean ... come on ... there are just so many issues going on in this world, like World hunger, War, social and economic, global, Climate Control and it goes on and on.

[@bm743]

So is drag woman face?

[@flake452]

Britain is full of Africans claiming to be British.

[@ween2015]

This is the most hypocritical video I’ve ever seen. I can say the same argument to her with transgender and make the same point she is making to him

[@garryonef4679]

@@cids1599 No way ppl are actually trying to validate blackface to protect other ppls feelings. This comment & type of thought process is exactly what's wrong with the world. Trivial in the grand scheme of things? You tell my black grandmother who was born before the civil rights movement that it's all trivial. Africans were enslaved for 400 years and it hasn't even been 100 years since we were legally considered equal, and you want us to accept some white guy because he paints his skin and listens to rap? Blacks are still getting lynched in some places and you want me to be tolerant of some guy's feelings because he "feels black"? Not only is there no logic behind this but it's absolutely offensive and laughable. You have the audacity to say it's "trivial in the grand scheme of things". With all due respect, you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about and you literally never will because you're not part of this culture. You may like the culture. You can adopt parts of the culture. You can respect it. But no matter what your outside perception of being black is, you will never truly know how it feels. That's my point.

[@csc333]

All he did was use the exact arguments trans people use, which is demonstrates the grotesque double standard.

[@TheDaniela3112]

The irony of her judging this man so harshly when he and transgender people are equally as delusional but one is normalised and the other isn't. It's so hypocritical to me

[@Bbardo]

This lady was just too good at what she did. She presented one argument after the other against Ollie's delusion delusion of transracialism,and all I could hear him say over and over again was how he just was happy with what he was doing and that we all needed to abide him.

[@meowateyourchips7417]

No, she wasn’t. Change her arguments with gender and she’d be considered a TERF

[@BellicIV]

You could literally change the argument to gender and it would be the same. Transgender doesn’t exist. Just like you cant change your race you cant change your gender

[@stingrayy7215]

the best part is that one can enjoy [ or in his case, mock and appropriate ] korean culture without BEING korean!! what a concept!! imagine showing up with braids to talk to a black person, “representing” another minority group and then saying “no i do not culture appropriate :)” like woo that was not the vibe 👀

[@JK_JK_JK]

Cognitive dissonance: Identifying as a different race is ridiculous but identifying as a different sex is perfectly fine!

[@BellicIV]

@@JK_JK_JK wokester: you cant be transracial. You’ve never been that race. Me: I never been a woman either. Wokesters: wait, thats different.

[@noot_noota]

She’s speaking straight facts. Oli is long gone, they’ll never understand nor will they ever try.

[@shefchenko111]

She's just as woke as he is.

[@ythatesfacts]

She isn't fully right, she speaks of white privilege when it doesn't exist, woke racism, police brutality (she never took a criminal justice course). Just because she is less crazy doesn't mean she's not crazy.

[@straightfire6390]

All her arguments could be applied to transgenderism

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

If gender is a social construct then so is race. And by definition can be interchangeable as one feels. It's the game you chose to play. Stick with it.

[@MXGIRL87]

@@ythatesfacts it does exist just not in the way you are interpreting it. Everyone has privilege. White privilege just means that as a white person you have the privilege of not being discriminated against for your race. Not saying it’s impossible but this typically does not happen.

[@1000Orgasms]

The hypocrisy is sickening.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

I KNOW

[@mt89252]

The difference is gender is a social construct (aka it's not a 'real' physical thing) therefore it changes based on how you feel inside. Race is a 'real' physical thing so therefore does not change based on how you feel inside. You may be thinking of sex which is a 'real' physical thing that does not change.

[@daanielllllllllll]

@@mt89252it really isn’t a “construct”. You have a dick or a pussy? Male and female are very real and have real differences. Same as black asian etc. this is fucking ridiculous.

[@griff404]

@@mt89252 its not hard to find trans claiming to be female/male tho. They do say sex is also a spectrum nowdays. ''there are people who are intersex'' their point. And theyre not only about gender which is a social thing, they also get operated on, take hormones... they trying to be female/male. If it was about gender and gender only theyd be doing harmless things such as wearing makeup and dresses. It is about emulating the opposite sex be it male/female and its no diff than trying to emulate a diff race. hypocritical really

[@SuperFilipeMiguel]

@@mt89252 Of course race is a social construct as well. I learnt that in Ethiopia, where it happened that some people would identify a verey fair skin african as looking more like me (originally European), while me, based on our concepts, would identify her more as black. The same when a Ethiopian would ask me "where is your black friend?" just because he was darker. Why is Obama identified as black when he is mixed? It is clear to me that race is a social construct.

[@LEELOLKH]

*Person being a transracial* “Omg so offensive and delusional!” *A man trying to be a woman.* “Yass slay queen.”

[@mao_sothyda11i93]

Because race is bound by blood and we’re born with features that we didn’t ask for and we get made fun of for it but when a white person does it, they get praised for it and can just wear our race like it’s a costume and take it off when they got the chance to WHEN WE DON’T HAVE THAT OPTION. THAT right there is the problem 💀

[@canarygoodie3873]

​@@mao_sothyda11i93ewww transphobe

[@EliDoesntCareAbtUrOPINION]

lol. Gender and sex arent the same thing, you just dont care about science and biology right?? You're right and everyone else is wrong right? RIGHT? Do a simple google search. Ya cant change sex but gender is a spectrum lol. Maybe also go learn about intersex people... The NATURAL transgender individuals where their body transitions for them without their consent lol. Please seek help, maybe a mental facility, youd probably benefit lol.

[@ueckbueck]

I’m totally with this dude and against the girl. I think people are more engaged with based on “how we look” than “how we like to” for their sense of identity. It’s only for the social convenience to identify people on superficial level. Each individual should be allowed to decide which cultures they like and if they wanna belong, so be it. Let him be.

[@chelspicer]

"I'm korean, i've lived there." "..for one year." As an asian, im not korean but im indonesian/chinese/australian, thry really offends more than one race but can never recognise it. this lady was just so well spoken and wise, i have mad respect for her.

[@reasonablyserious]

So you're a legitimate citizen of three countries I gather

[@toriazheng3598]

@@reasonablyserious there are many Chinese decent in Indonesia, many of my Indonesian friends also often travels to Australia, and some of their relatives also got Australian citizenship, so it’s not surprising seeing these three countries together lah

[@andersonluna7551]

So you were born in Indonesia but you're half Chinese half Australia descent?

[@chelspicer]

@@andersonluna7551 no sorry, born in australia, chinese/indonesian decent

[@darkalligraph]

oh I'm indonesian/chinese/australian too! 🇮🇩🇦🇺

[@chescie_]

I LOVE that she stood her ground. She was the right person to interview Oli..

[@touchmytopic6763]

Now take what she said and apply it to a transwoman…doesn’t sound so well. It’s Transphobic.

[@read-ts2cd]

Are you joking... Saying... You dont get to question me?! It wasnt an interview it was supposed to be a discussion.

[@touchmytopic6763]

@@read-ts2cd There’s no such thing as rational discussion in 2022.

[@elivile.]

She roasted him, as well.

[@iAdden]

she definitely wasn't the right person for this

[@billyb4790]

I love all these people making comments about how wrong it is to be transracial who would scream and cry if you said the same about transgender 😂

[@1appletree]

I really don't get what is the difference.

[@whatamIdoing__575]

The slippery slope slipped 😅

[@kiowah231]

@@1appletree There is no difference.

[@robertlouisburns]

Gender and race is established by your DNA. What is mental is that some people think the first can be changed but not the second. Why, they really can’t give you a good answer. They had it repeated to them over and over about gender that they just believe it. So, we te told that you can’t change your race (it will offend the blacks) but you can change your gender (because nobody cares about offending women-MEN can say they are female and win in WOMEN’S sports, use their bathroom, become Woman Of The Year and praised on National Woman’s Day)

[@koomiii]

"I like korean culture but I always gonna be a black woman, periodt." OMGGG THE POWER ON HER WORDS!! IM- 👏🏻

[@malinyamato2291]

you have Korean faces as your avatar.

[@kamijo0o0o]

@@malinyamato2291 the stupidity is real

[@koomiii]

@@malinyamato2291 yeah, I like kpop. ???

[@an_abanana]

@@malinyamato2291 so?

[@kpopstan4ever641]

@@malinyamato2291 and your point? 💀

[@anelisamali2846]

"I identify as Korean" - Said a person with a cornrows hairstyle, blue eyes and a stage name that ends with London. "I lived in Korea for one year" - still does not know the language, even a simple hello. "I love the culture" - still fails to differentiate between Japanese, Korean and Chinese culture. "I had surgery to fit the Korean aesthetic" - clearly does not comprehend how problematic this is, Koreans are humans not some kind of aesthetically pleasing dolls.

[@soulyl0ser56]

You really spoke out on this 🗣 all I see is facts right here. This is my favorite comment.

[@emeryaboaba156]

Who gave her a platform

[@nova-in9oh]

ATE WITH THIS ONE BESTIE

[@AlexReynard]

These are the exact arguments cis women make against trans women.

[@TheOcelotSlayer]

Be honest, if he grew up in the culture, loved and respected it, and knew his history well, everyone would continue to deny his 'transracialism.' This conversation is pointless.

[@angelmission]

No. Love yourself for who you really are.

[@urekmazino3509]

It’s insane to think you are a different race or gender than what you were born as

[@milby9860]

I feel that you can follow a culture but you can’t change your race

[@Dudemon-1]

@Manroe Blokeof only by changing the definition of gender. Play linguistic games and you can ignore reality all you want!

[@gottalovetheinternet]

But, you actually can change your race. By mixing with other races, it changes over time. Interestingly, you physiologically cannot change your gender.

[@didi-vh1gw]

Races are just social constructs.in réality there is no races

[@SarcasticTruth117]

@@didi-vh1gw haha. It's crazy that she didn't see he was using the same logic to change his race that the Trans community uses to change their gender. She's too wrapped up in her own "truths" that realty is nonexistent.

[@calemcain5507]

Oi If I can change my race in Skyrim I can change it IRL

[@Headly892]

I would love to see Oli do a Korean history/culture general knowledge test to see how much he knows about Korea

[@c.m1772]

That'll be a big fat ZEROOOOO

[@KRoromon]

@@c.m1772 negative points lol

[@daniboy4153]

That is a negative infinity

[@baebae1916]

I bet he doesn't know anything abt their history💀

[@alessandrap3437]

Let's start a petition, I'm in!

[@Salexander2061]

Nice music in the background. Really helps add to the confusion.

[@ytandbonw]

I hate the phrase "people need to accept that". Guess what, I don't NEED to do ANYTHING, especially not accept your bs dellusions. If you can't accept yourself as you are, others sure as hell aren't going to accept you for what you're clearly NOT.

[@CaitlinBuckley]

She speaks with such intelligence *edit* I never realised this comment would have so many racist people reply to it. Sick of seeing racist stuff in my notifications so just stop.

[@obrien1982byron]

Jesus you are very simple minded.

[@Carsick8]

nah , well rehearsed victimhood narrative thats out of date . Its not like black kids are racially targgetted , gang raped and prostituted by another group, then covered up and facilitated by the police, like British children are. When football players are forced to get on their knees for you, your not suffering institutional racism , your a political pawn.

[@CaitlinBuckley]

@@Carsick8 you are absolutely vile.

[@obrien1982byron]

@@Carsick8 exactly man

[@Dudemon-1]

Yes, not credible. They are both loons.

[@pumpyumpyumpkinn]

Who is this QUEEN?! we all need someone like her in our lives. Idk why shes the type of friend who will always trust. Her energy is so amazing! I can listen to her all day. Go OFF!

[@touchmytopic6763]

Yeah…she believes she’s a Korean and stands against transphobes. So brave

[@absoluteballs]

@@touchmytopic6763 what are you saying???

[@Gizzy7837]

@@touchmytopic6763 Huh?! What the heck are you talking about?

[@Gizzy7837]

Tiffany T: YES!

[@frogg002]

@@touchmytopic6763 she literally said she will always be a black woman that appreciates korean culture

[@ericjay6021]

The irony and hypocrisy of a male pretending to be a female telling another male pretending to be a female that they cant pretend to be Korean is absolutely absurd.

[@friedchicken4735]

Im getting extremely tired of males speaking for women pretending to be woman, as for the transracial shit Im going to be honest idc anymore (Im not Asian so they doesnt offend me) but at a certain point Im waiting for people who want to be transspecies.

[@blur1582]

Fr

[@jetmoseby5149]

Lmao seriously, its like a battle of unearned privilege in 2023.

[@Theveronspecie]

This is just the comment I was looking for. She's accepting nonbinary but not accepting transracial because one is offensive to her is just straight comedy. The amount of pick and choose in some of ppl is just funny. So what happens to people who find both nonbinary and transracial as offensive to women/men and Koreans? My God!

[@Alex-qe5wn]

Because gender is a social construct in the sense of masculine and feminine aesthetics, and those who transition can alter their sex in different ways, like how testosterone can increase muscle mass, grow more hair on the body, and lower the voice. So in this sense, transgenderism has more legitimacy than transracial because race isn't just a color but is a heritage. Now here is an example. You have an albino black man, and now you have someone who is intersex. The man who has albinism may still have white skin but is still black in the same sense as an African American because they share the exact ethnic origin. Now you have someone who is intersex. To which, of my understanding, is a hermaphrodite. But a sex change operation could allow someone to become their preferred gender than just having both. In conclusion, race and gender are not the same constructs since race relies on heritage while gender is based on an individual's identity.

[@mxnolis]

her saying that we haven't moved on as a society just because BLM EXISTS, is not proof that we havent moved on. it could exist for many other reasons than a legitimate one. also, she said that he's questioning her to find a hole in what she's saying. I understand that yeah maybe he is and its not helpful, but also, if you don't have a hole, prove it and answer the question. she asked him questions, so she should too. lets not have double standards, that sounds like privilege to me

[@zarulshazmie2756]

This should should should SHOULD BE LONGER ! What the woman is saying is nothing but the truth and you can see how Oli is struggling to push his narratives. Really hope that there’s a part 2.

[@tacotator2358]

Lol....but you think ppl can change genders? 😆 🤣 😂

[@controversial_7]

now she just need to tell that to a trans woman. women are minors right, yeah

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

If gender is a social construct then so is race. And by definition can be interchangeable as one feels. It's the game you chose to play. Stick with it.

[@m.z1256]

@@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc stop spamming

[@NoneofyourbeeswaxInc]

@@m.z1256 how about you prove me wrong and I'll think about it.

[@laurentiare]

“I will engage with Korean culture but I’ll always be a black woman” SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK QUEEN 🙌

[@orion5445]

But it's that simple tho. Oli confuses culture with race. You can accept Korean culture. You can eat their food, follow their fashion, etc. But your parents are not Korean. Ok he can probably have Korean ancestry but he's mostly white at the end day.

[@limepiper3650]

@@orion5445 we can say the same about men that identify themselves as women. Just because you like feminine things your sex doesn't change magically.

[@orion5445]

@@limepiper3650 Although I agree with you fully. I still say let people live their life how they want bc we would want the same for ourselves too.

[@limepiper3650]

@@orion5445 but it does affect females. Males that identify themselves as women want to compete in women's sports, men in prison ( some rapists) are identifying as women and being translated to women's prisons. It does have repercussions to women.

[@orion5445]

@@limepiper3650 Well you're not wrong there.

[@logicuser4789]

You are what you are born. Don’t like it? Tough shit. No amount of masquerading as something you are not will make it true. You’re just essentially playing dress up and demanding the entire world actually believe it to be a biological fact. Act, dress and be however u want, but no one can change who they are born as, whether they accept that or try to deny it. The world has gone nuts.

[@elliecallahan5874]

This is honestly hilarious! Love her reaction too. 😂

[@kookies_LARA]

As an asian I'm so disgusted by Oli. Oli isn't appreciating but rather disrespecting and creating stereotypes about Asia and our people.

[@limepiper3650]

How do you think women feel women when men say they are women.

[@puppyseungmin319]

Exactly, I’m Asian and it’s so disgusting to see him sexualizing MINORS on tiktok calling them oppa when he is at least 33 years old

[@Anhonime]

"Uncle Rodger" is way more harmful, but there's no media fuss about him, on the contrary -- people seem to like him

[@Nayeoniee-]

@@limepiper3650 what do woman have to with what they are talking about??

[@halfwaysleet]

@@Nayeoniee- well. race is a social construct just like gender. I don't understand why many people accept someone for being transgender, but not someone that is transracial. They both have identity issues and I think hating on them and ostracizing them from society is harmful.

[@AliHussain-fz7pd]

I'd like to identify as a lion, I went to the zoo, I interacted with lions, then I went to the jungle and it was a life changing experience for me, I ate meat all day, I've hired a voice coach, my roar has really improved, it's made me happy and no1 can take that away from me. I hope over time, people will accept that.

[@gildagodfrey5108]

Technically! People do identify as animals and children are allowed to do so in schools without discrimination so you are in luck buddy!

[@yourcarsextendedwarranty4453]

@@gildagodfrey5108 I hope that was sarcasm

[@angelosorfa4616]

transpeciesal will be the next generations big thing

[@soft.nd.golden]

Same as transsexual people. I'll call u her but it does not make you a woman sorry not sorry

[@T0miiokaGiyu]

@@yourcarsextendedwarranty4453 me too

[@vyana4323]

I feel like people have a rather hypocritical approach to transracial people. Hear me out hear me out. So you’ll tell a transracial person they can’t change their race because they cannot relate to the struggles and discrimination that this particular race they transitioned to has always faced. But in that case, does a trans woman understand the trauma that people who have been a biological girl all their life have had to face? I was only a little girl when my relatives touched me inappropriately, and as a girl, only I know what I go through every month when I have my periods. And as a girl, I’ve been told I can’t do so many things that guys do, but has a trans woman been through that themselves? In my culture, married women are forced to cover their heads when they interact with other people, has a trans woman had to experience that? Also, if a white girl has been raised by black parents since she was a baby and says she feels like a black person internally because she shared their culture all her life and felt like one of them, could you tell her that she has no idea how it’s like to be black just because her skin colour isn’t black? A trans woman says she has always felt like a woman internally because she has played with dolls all her life and preferred dresses over pants, could you tell her she has no idea how it’s like to be a woman just because she has a penis?

[@erikrodriguez6207]

It is very difficult to accept it but over time I hope he and many other people realize it.

[@ninaa4036]

He clearly doesn't understand that you can appreciate a culture and live within that culture, but ethnically you are not part of it. My mom's best friend (she's essentially an aunt to me at this point) is from Cuba and I grew up loving cuban food, I speak spanish and I love latin music. But my appreciation for latin culture does not make me latina. I am still eastern european and always will be.

[@Straumnes]

*they. Oli clearly stated in the video that they're non-binary, so what you're NOT gonna do is intentionally misgender someone.

[@nathaliebennett8945]

Tell that to Hilary Baldwin 😂😂😂

[@ninaa4036]

@@finessinit.2110 I never said I disagree with you. I think things like this shouldn't be normalised and we should have serious discussions about this with medical professionals as to why people feel this way.

[@deibidibnida246]

There's no such thing as "Cuban ethnicity".

[@Straumnes]

​@@deibidibnida246 They didn't say there's no such thing as "Cuban ethnicity." They clearly reference not being "latina" in their original comment. Try again.

[@spaceisnotalone]

“got surgery to have more of a korean aesthetic” that’s the issue, this is not supposed to be an aesthetic, korean people are living people who have gone through struggles, for you to be able to put this on and even have a chance to take this off when you want is not okay, same thing with every other race, as a black woman i hate when some people try to take that when you don’t know what it’s like to go through racial issues as a non poc it’s so sad to see that he can’t just appreciate the culture and be himself edit: the way i see it, man, woman, non binary, i will always be black. i refuse to say someone is right to take someone else’s culture because they’re defending it with the argument of transgender people. i get it, transgender people (specifically trans women) have a similar thing where they don’t have what cis women have (periods, cramps, birth, etc.) but the culture goes further. id hate for someone to be able to steal my culture then take it off and be done with it when they’re bored or don’t feel like they connect anymore, i cannot change that. in the end, this will not change peoples mind and this type of argument will always be divided

[@Seethi_C]

Same thing for women

[@spaceisnotalone]

@@Seethi_C ???

[@Seethi_C]

@@spaceisnotalone transwoman haven't gone through life with the experience of being a woman

[@straightfire6390]

The ''you haven't lived the same struggle'' thing could might as well be applied to trans people - it never is Also if he just ''appreciated'' the culture as in dressed in k-pop fashion a lot of you woke entitled little wannabe-victims would cry fowl over cultural appropriation anyway

[@spaceisnotalone]

@@straightfire6390 him wearing clothes that are trendy over in Korea is a significant difference from him getting multiple surgeries to look Korean while stating that he is while he's also failed to educate himself on the culture, I'm not entirely sure who would be crying over something like that, he'd still be appreciating it in that way because he's not trying to change his entire identity also, I never commented on trans people, and I'm focusing my comment on Oli and his "transracial" issue that is an entirely different argument

[@Pippin_]

Don’t understand how you can understand trans gender but not trans racial, they’re both identifying as something you physically aren’t, but for some reason trans racial is a lot worse than transgender?

[@xxYoungGG]

They both mid ngl

[@barrington9382]

So he can be non binary but not Korean

[@mademoisellecm1]

She read him like a great novel.

[@Carsick8]

Shes defending no.1 victim top spot with talking points shes probably been repeating for years

[@celestialmorpho]

not really

[@mikerotch2572]

@@celestialmorpho totally agree.. this confused oli is no great novel..

[@controversial_7]

yeah now she just need to tell that to a trans woman, women are minors right, yeah

[@straightfire6390]

She read him on woke auto-pilot, ''triggering equals harm'' Obese + dyed hair + ''cultural appropriation'' bullshit made it obvious from the get-go

[@tinyhands506]

Is Olly joking? Is this for real?? Totally agree with the woman, Olly is ridiculous.

[@LittleSparklingStars]

his friends exposed him saying he's trolling

[@trinnaann20]

he himself said he does the all for the attention and money, its all an act

[@LittleSparklingStars]

@Manroe Blokeof what

[@LittleSparklingStars]

@Manroe Blokeof Because race isn't part of identity, it's just how you happened to look. Gender however, has to do with your sex, it determines your behaviour. Most of the times sex and gender are connected, sometimes they're not. You can feel masculine or feminine, you can't feel black, white or asian. As ethnical behavior is linked to culture, not race. I mean, it's not hard to understand if you think about it. You people are dumb.

[@AdamBrims]

Bro I think 99% of the world agree with her

[@_spicychicken123]

i love when she said "i will engage with korean culture but i’ll always be a black woman” I love her sm omg

[@sgilmour47]

What's the difference with a white priveledged male becoming an opressed white female?

[@theunholyfrog8615]

Imagine this, I haven't got a degree and I haven't majored in anything mildly important, But i identify as an engineer therefore im an engineer.

[@melaninQveen]

The way she came at him with intelligence , facts, knowledge and so on and all he can say is " im korean and i helped them , im helping them" baffles me. I am so glad someone finally putting this korea boo in his place because for 3+ years he been just doing the most!! So Thank you finally someone said it!!

[@Agagnier]

*them

[@ecstasy5022]

what intelligence lol? she spoke nothing but gibberish, maybe except the part were she said he can't change his race lol.

[@iamyu]

I am genuinely curious what kind of help that this person had given to Korean? I don’t think Korean people are thankful for that gesture. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏾🤷🏽‍♂️

[@cryingrightnow7928]

@@ecstasy5022 I don’t think you really listened to or understood what she said or what she was trying to say.

[@tiannaryan8093]

@@ecstasy5022 Please explain how this is gibberish because everything said were facts...

[@rhubarb3.14]

WHAT IS HER NAME?!? This brilliant woman should be getting accolades instead of anonymity.

[@fleursolaire6566]

.

[@Umm_yeah]

Her name is Lyza Lawal :)

[@justhuman1722]

@@Umm_yeahLawal .... Yazzzz... A Nigerian sistaaaa

[@alecgurney9305]

Shaniqua

[@carylbarnett7448]

I’m offend when a man says he’s now a woman and engineers it.

[@noxvlager4856]

She's the last person I expected to say those things. Anyway I agree with her, say those words to trans people. And you will be correct.

[@billyb4790]

I'd like to see Ollie debate a transgender person.

[@yaheesplace]

What is this interviewed name?!? She’s phenomenal! How can she be referred to as “black woman” in every article about this? Why isn’t she named? I’d like to see more of her work.

[@Umm_yeah]

Her name is Lyza Lawal :)

[@jaw0405]

I went to law school with Liz, she is smart as fuck!

[@blastoxic9992]

@@jaw0405 Tell us more.

[@mmymmy315]

@@jaw0405 that came across in the video !! She's awesome

[@theworldsonheroin]

Exactly....she is phenomal and basically called 'unnamed woman'

[@indiaaries8792]

I love the fact the woman is telling them STRAIGHT OUT FACTS and they still have a right to say no you’re wrong

[@borroborroborro5711]

She’s not saying anything except “feel bad for me I’m black!”

[@leontoeides]

He acts like all TRAs do.

[@jillianumo-etuk7224]

@@leontoeides don’t say that

[@diorawesomeness3938]

@@borroborroborro5711 she didn’t say that a single time and if that’s what you got from the video you really didn’t even watch it

[@borroborroborro5711]

@@diorawesomeness3938 that’s all she says the entire time. Explain to me how she doesn’t say that lol

[@shairafaiza7261]

This is getting out of hand and I can’t believe so many people couldn’t foresee it

[@ohay96]

I’m at awe that people don’t believe in being transracial but support transgenders. These same arguments can apply to gender, it’s the same lunacy. If he feels Korean let him be.. if a man feels like a women “let him be”… right? Keep that same energy.

[@sovereign9708]

Truly? You’re in awe at the hypocrisy of humans and their desire to do anything to stand out? Are ya tho….are you really?

[@transform9616]

1000% it's the same damn thing. If you're for people being transgender then you should be for people being transracial

[@gweevelicious]

Transgender is influenced by how you live and grown up to be from the environment around you, not using gender as an accessory. Transracial is not influenced by that, it is influenced by the surface understanding of a culture and the pretentious attitude that if you look like that race, you're immediately accepted into that culture.

[@justasoul3148]

It’s not the same. Gender dysphoria is real medical disorder, which gives someone a huge distress that gives them a deep depression, anxiety, depersonalization/derealization, suicidal ideation., etc. “Non binary trans” is what is very loud in the transgender community, they simply like to wear makeup and essay opposite sex clothes or like stereotypical female/male things and think that they are trans. Some people suffering from gender dysphoria don’t have a choice but to transition, and that’s why it was always rare to be trans until the medical professionals took away gender dysphoria away as a diagnosis for anyone to be trans or transition.

[@AnonymousOmniscience]

I support both, I think you should be able to appear however you want. Transhumanism for the win.

[@jcsfanatic2235]

Oily is clearly giving White Savior vibes, especially when he said “I’m trying to help these people.”

[@spaceisnotalone]

exactly, like who exactly is he helping? people trying to change their race?? in that case, they need professional help as well

[@straightfire6390]

He's delusional but ultimately harmless. I love how the obese cow had a meltdown when asked what she does to help people, very telling. ''NO SIR I ASK THE QUESTIONS'' very entitled self-victimizing mindset.

[@user-xw4vg1vy5e]

Lol oily

[@suanongyo]

OILy HAHAHAHAHH😭😭😭 I first thought he was so operated his face got shiny, but it might as well be oil

[@Agagnier]

You guys should respect Olly's pronouns, but not their "trans race" I agree that's dumb.

[@masontalarico7090]

My wife is black, and I love everything about black culture and history, but that doesn't make me black. I can like and identify with a lot of things from the black aesthetic and culture, but at the end of the day I'm still an Italian and THAT'S OKAY. People need to learn to love themselves. Beautiful cultures exist all over our world, and when you try to identify as an ethnicity you're not you negate that very beautiful side of you.

[@erikarobinson3557]

Yasssss to interracial couples!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@anonymous-cx7ng]

🤢🤮

[@erikarobinson3557]

@@anonymous-cx7ng What’s the problem

[@masontalarico7090]

@@erikarobinson3557 Just ignore them. They trying to start drama. They didn't even make a point. Thank you for being kind though.❤❤❤

[@orianamandi]

👏🏻🙏🏻

[@muhammadal-amin4531]

What a double standard. What makes him different to a person who is actually is korean. Being Transracial has a stronger basis than being transgender

[@niconaro2425]

Either its all ok or none of it is.

[@avalon2008]

he lived there for a YEAR. I lived in Japan for 3 years and u don’t see me try to act like I know everything about their culture because I don’t. It is so much different than mine, but I loved learning the amount I learned. What Oli is doing is absolutely disrespectful to Korean culture and I respect anyone who will tell them off 🫅 They have not appreciated the culture with what they’re doing and I hope they realize.

[@tojenrazer1129]

I watched the last samurai and now identify myself as the last samurai because I'm Japanese born in a Finland body.

[@nova-in9oh]

i watched the penthouse so now i identify myself as a korean born in an african body

[@jonathanwatts9492]

😂😂😂 this conversation is stupid period end of discussion this is not a thing it's.not even worth discussing

[@AusDenBergen]

Most conversations are.

[@woody5831]

Agree things are getting more crazy all the time.

[@mrnice7570]

Like gender identity

[@bm743]

So is gender but here we are putting male sex offenders in womens prisons cause “feelings”

[@j.4428]

@@mrnice7570 transgenderism has historic and scientific precedent. “Transracialism” does not.

[@SidharSharm]

Love this Massive check mate!!!

[@canadiansk8r1]

This is literally that Atlanta episode IRL, life imitates art

[@kpop_tae6432]

I don’t understand how he thinks he’s being helpful at all. He’s legit so harmful for the world. This lady was probably one of the best spoken person

[@BellicIV]

Quit being a bigot!

[@straightfire6390]

Triggering people =/= harm. Grow up you entitled wannabe.-victim.

[@heyitsbrene8052]

@@BellicIV you’re definitely white.. shut up. He is not Korean and will never be Korean literally Majority of the people in this comments have common sense and realize that.. y’all are some colonizers like y’all want our race now too? Byeeee it’s never gonna happen.

[@anjalijha5014]

They clearly aren't *SO* harmful for the world, maybe for themselves.

[@BellicIV]

@@anjalijha5014 he’s not harming anyone the TRANSRACIAL community have rights! Yall just being bigots! Get with the times!

[@guyplessier7935]

Having nearly lived 63 years I am coming to the realisation that everyone is seriously emotionally and mentally damaged, it’s the degree of damage that’s the question

[@blaks1420]

@@janeiiy365 You can't even spell it

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

You are correct.

[@lulooper]

Yeah, everyone seems so on edge edge these days.... Both cautious and unguarded at the same time.

[@JK_JK_JK]

Cognitive dissonance: Identifying as a different race is ridiculous but identifying as a different sex is perfectly fine!

[@DegeN.YNation]

I now know why we have to respect elders, yall have been putting up with thus bullshit for too long

[@thepreacher621]

She is sooooo good. Stayed calm and stayed pure fax. No room for disagreement.

[@gavinclements482]

If race & gender are both social constructs how are they not interchangeable. You literally can't give a reason w/o being hypocritical & contradictory

[@thepreacher621]

I never said gender or race were social constructs

[@gavinclements482]

@@thepreacher621 that's the position of the progressive left

[@leavemealone7159]

I’d be flipping my shit

[@joeb5829]

This person has a lot of hate in their heart. Not really facts just emotions

[@brianlevine249]

Same people who say you can identify as a wolf say you can't identify as a different color of your own species.

[@joclark1896]

This woman has said what we all want to say and I applaud her. He’s an embarrassment! He says he’s Korean but he can’t even speak the language and doesn’t know anything about their history and the suffering they have been through as a society. Especially with all the Asian hate that is prevalent at the moment, this angers me to my core. I spent a wonderful year in Korea myself and have some wonderful Korean friends. I love many things about Korea and their culture, but I am also a proud British woman. White privilege really annoys me (coming from a white person)

[@Vee-Hive]

I'm going to assume you are anti trans, too? would that be correct? If not, why not?

[@kixna4799]

as a korean american who has experienced both discrimination as a child and glorification as an adult, i do think my lived experience is more important than just an aesthetic because it has not always been that way. for a long time being asian was not something that had advantages like it sadly does now with society marking us as an aesthetic or a glorified look just because of the rise of kpop and globalization korean culture has had in the past decade. it is our culture and our history that has led to us becoming such an influential country yet people only see what’s attractive to them in our culture now that they don’t recognize how that culture was built.

[@tiny8140]

yes and it think we can also apply this perspective to transgenderism as well. A man who grows up male and then transitions to female because he likes the feminine aesthetic is not going to have the history and lived experience of being a woman and carrying the generational struggles that women have had to overcome.

[@limepiper3650]

That is how women feel but it seems that any man can become a woman just because he feels like it.

[@typoking]

A culture that adopted a shit-load of "White" Western ideas and rolled with it, you mean?

[@pornupaboum3459]

Koreans (outside North Korea) are not repressed people. On average you earn more than White Americans and have a homeland which is one of the most homogenous countries on the planet. You occupy a very special position in the US not afforded to other races.

[@Lora_Beolab]

so, the most important difference between races is privlige and opression

[@tosanesoko726]

Transracial is damaging to society but transgender isn't??

[@pinguinainmigrante9011]

Solo quien ha sido perseguido de manera intrafamiliar por sentirse de otra cultura o nación, podrá decirles el dolor que se siente. La soledad y el sentimiento de alienación y despojo son impresionantes, sin considerar las innumerables veces en que somos llamados "delirantes" y si eres menor de edad la persecución es mucho peor? Aveces te pones a pensar si realmente deseas seguir viviendo, en especial en esos días en los que tus ideales son tomados como delirios y posteriormente son brutalmente pisoteados. Si eres transracial, o multicultural, talvez simplemente un rebelde que quiere que las cosas cambien. Que sepas que yo te apoyo! Unamonos! Y mil veces venceremos!

[@luvu4eva16]

They're a hot mess. I'm tired of seeing their name, they're disgusting. Their ignorance and diminishing a whole culture based on their own beliefs/stereotypes is just gross. On the flip side, that woman was amazing--spitting straight facts

[@kenshix7902]

HE/ HIS/ HIM!!!

[@whereisqas]

@@kenshix7902 oli pronouns is they/them

[@blastoxic9992]

@@whereisqas Respect his race AND his pronouns or respect none of that! Be consistent in your views!

[@whereisqas]

@@blastoxic9992 by race u mean WHITE

[@blastoxic9992]

@@whereisqas by pronouns you mean he/him

[@echelon2k8]

Can you identify as transracial? Of course you can. You can identify as a toaster or a steam train if you like, but that doesn't mean that everyone else has to take you seriously and entertain your delusions.

[@DiegoGarcia-vk6bq]

that's how the transgenders started, I don't see how two social constructs can't be treated the same as gender is

[@TheSapphireLeo]

@@DiegoGarcia-vk6bq *transgender people

[@soslothful]

I identified as a toaster for a time. It was crummy.

[@Lia-bt6ck]

@@soslothful LMAO TOP TIER HUMOUR

[@soslothful]

@@Lia-bt6ck Am I the toast of the party then?

[@JFP1988]

If there's a case to be made for transgenderism then there is certainly a case to be made for transracialism. Because the genetic differences between a man and a woman are far more pronounced than between races. In fact to my knowledge there aren't any genetic differences between races, only the expression of certain genes. Of course I'm not pro transracialism, I think the idea is quite absurd but if you entertain the idea of transgenderism then you need to also be willing to entertain the idea of transracialism.

[@InesHamadiB]

This is hilarious 😂 great comedy show

[@klub1uk]

Sorry Oli but living in Korea for one year and attempting to...badly...correct native speakers on their pronunciation doesn't make you Korean! You are doing nothing but amplifying stereotypes and it's well past the funny that it used to be. As a white man you will never understand the struggles that BIPOC and especially East Asians have had to endure and for you to claim you're Korean because you had surgery is a slap in the face to all those who have genuinely suffered because of their race!

[@Carsick8]

oh no the struggles, the enduring , whites will never ever ever understand the suffering

[@blaks1420]

He suffered more than most due to his race. Cosmetic surgery isn't a walk in the park ya know.

[@klub1uk]

@@blaks1420 did you just compare someone VOLUNTARILY having plastic surgery to someone forced to deal with racist abuse, being called Coronavirus (tends to happen to most East Asians. racists are too stupid to differentiate), reviled for eating dog and other cuisine and generally being fetishised by Koreaboos like Oli London?! Your ignorance and racism is showing bestie!

[@mysticaceballos]

HE DID WHAT?! BRUHHH!

[@anisagigihola]

@@blaks1420 yeah that was his own choice to get plastic surgeries to look korean tf??????

[@jaylenwilbourn2936]

That fact he kept referring to Koreans as “these people” you can tell that subconsciously he knows that he is not Korean. People of the true same culture don’t think of themselves as separate, consciously or subconsciously. The fact that there is able to be an “I” and “them” mentality proves that there is a major disconnect from the Korean culture that runs deeper than skin color/facial features. And there is NO AMOUNT of surgery he can have to fix that disconnect.

[@JayTowers901]

Black people do 🤣 theres a difference in their culture so its a separation

[@acreativestranger]

This is exactly what I was thinking!

[@cleonie9333]

Yes!!

[@M3GGG4NNN]

Worded so well! Exactly!

[@g-li]

Unfortunately I have that and I am from African descent. I talk like that when referring to those people and "Black people" a lot, because I feel kind of different. Not at all in a superior or racist way. I don't feel like I have a different colour or something but already as a human I'm kind of different from so many people, no matter what group it is. From other women, from other this and that.

[@joejoethemonkey85]

How do people feel this differs from identifying as transgender? As someone who's pretty ignorant of these things, the things that this guy is saying, it sounds very similar?

[@mrheal420]

Does nobody here understand all these arguments can be put in gender as well?

[@blur1582]

They have double standards

[@awestuvid]

How can one support transgenderism with the exact same arguments used to dismantle transracialism?

[@trueowner2683]

I’ve been looking for this comment everywhere. Thank you 😂😂 I don’t support Oli London one bit nor am I on his side, but the argument they had was useless. It’s just ignorance at this point 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MsDudette21]

Its funny seeing ppl argue its different when they know its clearly the dame argument. Sjws you do it to yourselves. Maybe if this transracial thing starts to grow they'll finally see the consequences of their actions

[@linagrey8286]

right 🤦🏽‍♀️ but do they care when it's women?

[@stupidliar]

As a trans person, the fact that they used the transgender argument is INSULTING. Transgender and Transracial are NOT the same :/

[@jenniferpollard591]

It’s exactly the same.

[@bxnji5001]

But technically they are

[@anonymousfan.4451]

@@jenniferpollard591 Actually, it is NOT. Transgender is something to do with your own identity and does not involve changing your biology; however, Transracial has something to do with your own biology. Sure, transgender involves your genitals, but transgender people do not have to "change" their genitals (from surgery or hormone therapy) in order to be trans or identify as another gender. Whilst transracial folks DO change their biology and identify their own biological ethnicity as another RACE. Transgender people do not call themselves cisgender, and instead say they are trans, and they recognise that they are not biologically male or female (or even non-binary for instance). Therefore, Transracial and Transgender are not the same: case closed.

[@anonymousfan.4451]

@Bxnji Either way, it's still offensive towards trans people, it questions their validity. Transgender also does not involve identifying biologically as something else, unlike Transracial. Anyhow, both terms shouldn't even be compared.

[@stupidliar]

@@anonymousfan.4451 THANK U

[@navigatingel6104]

What's interesting is that legally you can do this. You can put down any race you want the same way you can say any gender

[@callum3050]

Yo the black lady in this is spitting facts. Much respect

[@Carsick8]

nah , well rehearsed victimhood narrative thats out of date . Its not like black kids are racially targgetted , gang raped and prostituted by another group, then covered up and facilitated by the police. When football players are forced to get on their knees for you, your not suffering institutional racism , your a political pawn.

[@nickelmouse451]

I’m not sure that’s totally true. The idea that she is more at risk from being killed by the police than a white guy is statistically illiterate. The idea that with people being inspired by the work of other races means that our society gives no credit to those other races is clearly untrue…

[@finessinit.2110]

Not really she’s inconsistent as heck. Her whole argument is an emotional fallacy. For one she says that white people are ‘so far removed’ from the struggles of Koreans. Well men are also ‘so far removed’ from the struggles of women yet you see them becoming ‘women’. If a man can become a woman and vice verse then a white man can Identify as Korean.

[@MrBwench]

@@finessinit.2110 this discussion is about transracialism and not transgenderism. Please stay on topic instead of trying to make an argument on a different subject…

[@lorenoliveira8966]

She's not

[@mokkeskye4853]

I admire the patience that this woman has

[@pixeldxsts]

@@christopherbonilla9214 they meant as in she didn’t get angry at him cause half of us surely would.

[@PrincessMeganElsaBoo]

Exactly

[@howboutno412]

@@christopherbonilla9214 ao you literally don't know what basic words mean?

[@mokkeskye4853]

@@pixeldxsts I honestly forgot I even made this comment but yes you’re right 😅

[@pixeldxsts]

@@christopherbonilla9214 no she didn't xd.

[@AccidentalTradWife]

So it's appropriation and harmful to take on the identity (in the form of stereotypes) of a marginalized group when it comes to race, but it's perfectly fine for a man to appropriate the stereotypes of the "marginalized" sex, which gives them "marginalized group" status just as suddenly and undeservedly? Just trying to be clear here

[@mickeybeavison1053]

I was black but now I am south East Asian Indian now. Life is great now. No time for bigots or hate speech.

[@whackeduphairking9881]

WHY DID YOU CUT HER OFF LET HER SPEAK!! This exactly what black voices go through and unfortunately they still have to be silenced in 'educational and indiscriminate' videos like this. Oli said something offensive let her defend herself!

[@atatajoe3506]

Anyone can be cut off, including black woman. She did cut him off and speak over him a lot more.

[@whackeduphairking9881]

@@atatajoe3506 "anyone" you're saying this as if this we're all equal in society. Minority groups lack representation. Why? Because they're being snipped for the sensitive white people that don't want to see it. It's not just anyone.

[@whackeduphairking9881]

@@atatajoe3506 oh.... so your brain is as loose screwed like them coz you're clearly defending oli.

[@kimmmmm871]

This woman is amazing!! Every word was very well put, she can clearly win some arguments... but some people just can't be educated 😂😂😂😂

[@strahlemann6248]

Actually she's just parotting woke talking points that were created by others and have already been trotted out a thousand times. The epitome of unoriginality.

[@Joedshultz86]

@@strahlemann6248 EXACTLY! And morons eat up these talking points thinking they are well-thought rebuttals. One argumentative fallacy after another in this video LOL.

[@kimmmmm871]

​@@strahlemann6248 I don't think originality should be the point. Don't lawyers use already existing laws and cases to prove their point? I think she did a good job.

[@strahlemann6248]

@@kimmmmm871 Sure, but there are tens of thousands of laws and cases they can use. And even more interpretations. To effectively work with all of that requires a great deal of knowledge, experience, and even some creativity to combine and utilize all that material in an effective way. The anti-white talking points the smug black lady parotted, however, I've heard many times over. It's basically just Critical Race Theory 101 - academic, pseudo-scientific jargon with little substance, designed to impress midwits. And the substance there is amounts to little more than rationalizations for loathing and scapegoating white people.

[@ween2015]

@@kimmmmm871 but lawyers dont talk about cases that are hypocritical to their own. They don’t use cases that you can change a few words to be used against their selfs.

[@csc333]

so why can a man identify as a women? all the arguments the interviewer used against transracialism apply.

[@J1mmyMack]

They should talk about why she accepts one part of his transness and not another.

[@daneaharrison5060]

Im definitely not Korean so I can’t really give much to the conversation but my support to those who are offended… this is not how you appreciate a culture. Culture and race is not a costume!

[@awomanperiod.9507]

Neither is biological sex.

[@tiamystic]

@@awomanperiod.9507 REEEEEEEeeeee tRanSpHoBe!!!!11!

[@awomanperiod.9507]

@@tiamystic Denialphobic.

[@blur1582]

So as being a Woman