Can the RTX 4070 play the latest games at 4K in 2024?

[@theivadim]

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[@vulcan4d]

Am I the only one finding it funny that we are going back to 1080p by using DLSS performance on our 4K displays. Mid range cards are pure crap these days.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

We are evolving, just backwards. 🤣

[@alsius9162]

What

[@RX7800XTBenchmarks]

Certain midrange cards, not all of them. I don't have to compromise that much with mine, and it's cheaper.

[@theivadim]

To be fair, DLSS upscaled 1080p to 4K looks a lot better than native 1080p. I'd put it at around 1440p native experience level of enjoyment.

[@f.iph7291]

It looks better than native 1440 so stop whining

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Listen you can game on most games in 4k with the 4070 and 4070 super. Mainstream media makes some think they cant. Due to showing off maxed settings with ray tracing and more. Im sry but 4k gaming at high is pretty much as good as ultra. Coming from a 4080 super owner! I also own a 4070 super and it is beautiful and in a perfect spot. I only got this purely due to sim racing and vr to give me that slight edge. But im telling you nornal gaming 4070 super gamed on everything I played in 4k. Legit everything. It even got 90fps in acc with epic settings. Dont listen to mainstream showing off only ray tracing as if you jusy cant game in 4k. Gaming in worse case scenarios doesnt make it a none 4k gaming machine. 4k high is absolutely 4k gaming and enjoy guys. If you then add dlss you can use ultra on every single game out without ray tracing and enjoy it. Just saying you have optiona for a reason im tired of the whole oh its not 4k if its not ultra. No it wasnt that way woth 1440p. Or even 1080p people didnt go oh I had to do high settings so its not a 1080p card. Haha. Its sad the way we test these things. The way mainstream media makes it seem. Get the card enjoy and be shocked by it. I hope this new phase of testing ends. We need to go back to testing medium high and ultra to show people truely what they can get. We are at the point alot of these gpus play 4k and again any card that can do 4k high is a 4k gaming gpu imo. You can then add dlss and yes not native but still better then 1440p native.

[@liamgoddard831]

Do you think a regular 4070 will do 4k at high presets and still maintain good fps while still looking better than 1440p native with DLAA? I’m thinking of getting a 4k monitor and want to know if it is worth it with the 4070

[@Ragssssss]

​@@liamgoddard831 for sure, just throw in DLSS balanced or even performance.

[@liamgoddard831]

@@Ragssssss will it make the quality much worse or still look good?

[@Ragssssss]

@@liamgoddard831 I'd say 4K DLSS balanced still looks better than 1440p native. 4k DLSS performance would be on par to 1440p native. I have switched from 1440p to 4k, thus I qualify to answer this.

[@liamgoddard831]

@@Ragssssss thank you so much bro, only thing I need now is a 4k monitor but is expensive asf😭

[@JohnReaper_89]

i got 4070 super Zotac trinity and its by far a must better vfm purchase than 4070.... with a nice uc+ov it reaches 4070ti levels of performance and remains really cool around 62-63 celcius at max😉 gaming on G8 OLED ultrawide btw

[@92kosta]

4070 was never meant to be used for 4K gaming. Just sayin'.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

And so is 4060 Ti was never meant for 1440p gaming. Just saying. 🙂

[@Ragssssss]

​@@Jakiyyyyy how is that relevant to what OP said?

[@RX7800XTBenchmarks]

​@@Ragssssss it's a poor excuse. It's $600 MSRP. Even with FG you are expecting much better.

[@Ragssssss]

@@RX7800XTBenchmarks it's not about which is better value or worse. It's a fact 4060 ti pricing is nothing but sort of joke, however OP's context was totally different (about 4070) whereas person who replied to them said something that doesn't have any prevalence.

[@theivadim]

Well hey, if the 4070 works at 4K then why not🙂 Experience is what matters most.

[@bugrahanteber4135]

Frame Gen tech consumed the Vram. If you try over 12 Gb models you get an absolute performance on a demanding area. 12 GB vram is struggling on demanding areas for ex horizon, ghost of Tsushima etc. 4070 powerful gpu but it will enough for 1080p for incoming years and don't recommend. If you wanna 1440 p gaming for future get a 4070 ti super or above. Great video btw nice conclusion.

[@honoryhonra]

For a new generation card looks terrible results. Can you please try to run Grey zone warfare full 4k high graphics with the 4070i. I think is a game issue but want to see if that game needs a 4090 only I suspect bad implementation of graphics.

[@Ragssssss]

Great video as always! I believe 4070 is deadline entry-level 4k GPU. You only have to make sure you don't max settings & use DLSS in conjunction to whatever preset for budget 4k experience.

[@theivadim]

Thanks for checking out the video!🤝🙂 I don't know about that. I was able to enjoy gaming at 4K using the 16GB 4060 Ti earlier😄 This experience is better. But considering that 4070 SUPER is just a little bit more expensive I don't see any reasons to buy the 4070. If only the 4070 SUPER had 16GB of memory😩 It would've been the perfect buy.

[@hquan1]

Well, technically 4070 is now equivalent to 3080 power so it's great for 4K and with FrameGen it will do good at 4K, just need to adjust some game setting to fit its 12gb vram 😅

[@Fromatic]

Does hellblade not let you pick high preset but then just disable ray tracing and see how it performs at native 4k?

[@JakeBlack999]

Excellent Vadim

[@theivadim]

I appreciate your kind words🤝🙂 You enjoying the video makes me happy😊

[@bodasactra]

UE5 games look great but, not that great to be using up so many resources. I think UE5 game devs are collaborating with AMD/Nvidia engineers to cause early obsolescence. AMD 8800XT is coming in Jan 2025 and the 7800XT becomes 1 year old Sept 2024. Almost a one year upgrade cycle, just what we were warned about.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

A planned obsolescence. 🙂

[@theivadim]

Ray tracing is expensive to run in any game. Turn it off and the game will perform well. But this kind of game requires as much realism as possible to maximise immersion. Hellblade 2 is very impressive visually.

[@bodasactra]

@@theivadim Agreed but, baking in software based features that are just as demanding as hardware based RT without the ability to turn it off is where this issue lives. A 4070/7800XT should be getting better than 50-80 fps at 1440p high on average in current game. Not so for new UE5 offerings unless using up scaling, frame generation, or both. Brand new $500 GPUs can't do 1440p high in UE5 raw rasterization at 90 fps but, you can bet the house the next gen GPUs can, at least for a year.

[@theivadim]

I think we're seeing preparations for the next-gen GPUs launch. Game devs begin to set the highest graphics preset at a level expected to be playable on the upcoming RTX 5070 and RX 8800 XT alike. While current-gen GPU owners are expected to either use more aggressive upscaling or lower graphics quality. Do you believe in future-proofing a game? So that it can be enjoyed using higher graphics quality at a later date?

[@ex2j52]

how is VRR Flickering in cyberpunk on the msi? i just got the alienware 32 qd oled 4k and it has painfull flickering

[@DanyTPG]

Vadim have you seen the lossless scaling app frame gen? Should be interesting to test

[@theivadim]

I've tried it. Its image quality is not good enough. Too many visual issues. Especially when it comes to HUD elements. I prefer FSR or DLSS frame generation over that any day.

[@NEXLive]

what fans are you using? they look really good in your system

[@theivadim]

They look even better irl🙂 better diffusion. These are be quiet! fans and they come pre-installed in Pure Base 500 FX PC case. Fan RGB controller hub included. That’s why it’s one of my favourite cases. You almost never get 4 high-quality silent fans packaged together with a case.

[@NEXLive]

@@theivadim that sounds like a really good case, im gonna check it out. thanks for letting me know Vadim 👍

[@PCKodachi]

Those 4 tentacles..cables.. attached to the Ugreen Hub (cool little charger) I can't unsee it now. 😶🤣 PS. somewhat sad that we seldom can run native res for a decent frame rate much nowadays 🖥

[@theivadim]

We can still get that level of performance at native resolution using high-end GPUs such as the 4080 or 4090. But prices of cards in that segment has ballooned too quickly over the past several years.

[@PCKodachi]

@theivadim I agree V. The price for the lux GPU has risen beyond stratosphere. For average budget folks, I think we have to make the best out of the upscaling techs. Heard AMD FSR 3.1 is out and look promising. 🚀

[@theivadim]

I'm looking forward to trying FSR 3.1. I really hope they've fixed visual issues that bothered me enough to stop using the upscaler.

[@PCKodachi]

@@theivadim looking forward!👊✨️

[@johnbrooks2122]

Just overclock it it will help alittle bit better than notand better cpu will help😊

[@Thematrix075.]

I'm watching this on my 321urx lol I got 4070 TI playing alan wake 2 on balance mode getting 100 fps looks great with raytracing not so great game some time crashes

[@Legiey]

Even the 4080 struggles without dlss.

[@portman8909]

It is a 1440p card at maximum.

[@djp1234]

1440p is good enough on flatscreen. You only need 4K for VR gaming.

[@theivadim]

I'd disagree. Especially, if we're talking about larger monitors such as the 32-inch specimen I use in this video. 4K is nice to have for work as well as play.

[@Abhijit_mitra]

Size of your room ?

[@amzgamingx]

Does the 7600x usually get those high temps?

[@theivadim]

It's normal for any Ryzen 7000 series CPU. But you can lower that temp by getting a larger cooler or increasing fan speed. I've customised my CPU cooler fan speed to make it lower and as a result near-silent.

[@amzgamingx]

@@theivadim thanks for the tip

[@SNFDNSD]

get the 4070 super instead. it usually costs the same or a little bit more.

[@theivadim]

🤝 I agree.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Don't settle for less. Go for 4070 Ti Super. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@krisu02x]

@@Jakiyyyyy Just get a 4090, don't compromise anything.🤑

[@midnightmiragebeats]

​@@JakiyyyyyNot worth it paying 33% more for 12% more performance

[@Jakiyyyyy]

@@krisu02x Not worth it paying $2077 Cyberpunk GPU to get obsolete fast. 🤑

[@neti_neti_]

बहुत सुंदर प्रस्तुति 👌👌👏👏👏।

[@theivadim]

Thank you so much!😊

[@radarbob9971]

Cpu bottlenecks

[@rhythmmandal3377]

This is weird video. Why would anyone buy a 4070 for 4k gaming??? Even 4070 s isn't much better for 4k gaming. I bought the 4070 because I game at 1080p.

[@theivadim]

Nothing weird about it. RTX 4070 paired with a 4K monitor delivers miles better experience than paired with a 1080p monitor if you play the type of games that I do in this video.

[@aaz1992]

My RTX 4080 laptop is slightly faster than the desktop 4070 and I'm having a great time gaming at 4K on my OLED TV

[@cheeseboy5768]

How do you connect laptop to tv? Is that even possible?

[@theivadim]

Nice! Looks like you have an all-purpose mobile setup🙂

[@ccramit]

​@@cheeseboy5768.....an HDMI cable, like with everything else you connect to a tv.

[@MaGestic1]

Ok now do 4090