Can You Speed Run Spiral of Destiny - Sword of Convallaria

[@ReichGaming9]

the amount of luxite from sprial of destinies makes it a must do every once in a while

[@16BitBear]

For sure, there is so much in it. Gotta fuel those pulls.

[@Alex-kn7yz]

Thanks for another video and glad to see you are feeling better!!

[@16BitBear]

Thank you Alex. Much better than earlier this week for sure.

[@WhitieWu]

The biggest challenge I have with doing the Spiral, is setting aside the time to do it. I personally don't like doing them in short bursts, and prefer to sit back and go thru the story in big chunks. It also helps to keep track of what I've done each week when playing it.

[@16BitBear]

Same. I like running it for a couple days straight and enjoy the process.

[@Spoopball]

THANK GOD with the Acambe update, they literally let you use your leveled characters (with abilities, and equip stats, but no tarots or item skills) auto battling with level 58 characters makes the grind so much more bearable

[@PolygonDan]

One of the fun things I like about spiral is that all the different skills you can customize your character with and try out different builds. One of my characters that wasn't even legendary just healed herself and allies continuously whether she received or dealt damage. She also had moderate defense to be in the front line. I always used her side by side with my heavy damage dealer units.

[@16BitBear]

For sure, you can get some crazy builds to toy with.

[@ShowtimeDr]

The #1 Soc speedrunner World record!

[@16BitBear]

lol taking #1 in a field of 1 competitor

[@ShowtimeDr]

@@16BitBear You gotta be bold to wear the gold!

[@jayellgee]

@@ShowtimeDr16BitBear any% champ? How did the cocoa summons go, Doc?

[@ShowtimeDr]

@@jayellgee I went to freaking pity lol. Also got a Teadon. So you know... Did get a momo dupe though.

[@jayellgee]

@@ShowtimeDr man, pity is rough. Sorry to hear it. Glad you got her. Coulda pulled worse dupes than Momo, I suppose. Also slightly jealous of the Teadon. Hopefully your next pull comes faster.

[@plohi793]

I love Divine archer in sod .. thunder stuck does like 200 - 500 damage, archer at best does alot more! like 2000-3000+ and as long as he lives every turn. also distracts enemies on a tough map. or in large map he speed up clearing the map, because you can place him anywhere. Amazing! best TaLent EVER! ;)

[@16BitBear]

I don’t think I’ve had Beryl give me him on a run yet, but I agree he could be a beast. I use him in regular content frequently.

[@easynametopronounce9533]

In the long run, maneuver is better than thunderstruck. Thunder falls off pretty quick in the run as enemies get more HP. The teleport also helps you cheese the maps that require getting units to a certain spot. Yoir units will typically do more damage than the thunder can provide

[@16BitBear]

@@easynametopronounce9533 appreciate the tip, thank you.

[@Riviet]

Just dropping by to say hi and good to see you much better. Im feeling better day by day too 😊. Liked and commented, might watch the video at a later stage due to spoilers.

[@16BitBear]

Thanks Riviet, and good to hear you are on the mend as well.

[@purplatypus7405]

They added the ability to use your elysium units in combat so if you want to speed run you can totally trivialize all combat which seems like an odd choice

[@Keough-]

Is there any penalty or downside to using your own units for the entire sod playthrough?

[@16BitBear]

Do you unlock those units in the new chapter? I just started to play that route last night.

[@yakuz2p]

you can chose it in your video, just before combat when you chose unit to fight on the left there is Elysium tab and you need to click it

[@16BitBear]

@@yakuz2p ahh ok, I totally overlooked that, thank you.

[@Doughtato]

The lux rewards is a lot this time round!

[@IgHas-w]

Just fyi, the legendary gear is every 8 knowledge levels! Thanks for the speedrun

[@16BitBear]

Appreciate the tip!

[@jaimereupert4247]

Since the newest update, now you're allowed to use your units from the main story (which doesn't consume stamina from the units from this mode).

[@SulpherPlease]

Hey, bear. Great content ❤ we don't have many CC covering in-depth SoD contents. I'm subbing~ I love SoD and I'm running out of keys 💔 I can't imagine only getting 2 keys/week :( Btw is there a complete guide for achievement hunting?

[@16BitBear]

Thank you! They should up the keys considering the sped up content in my opinion. Regarding a guide on achievements I haven’t seen one personally.

[@Lol-Lol0]

U can now use ur Elysium unit. Honestly this is a good change. Sometimes there r just enemies whose lv gap is way too wide if u use ur story characters. Having being able to use ur Elysium characters makes this mode so much easier. Especially in this new route where ur units r way too divided.

[@16BitBear]

They will be fun to use.

[@Wizardcleave]

Intradesting. I did some speedrunning, I might use my current run to see how many quests you can skip and still handle the critical battles, get a route going.

[@16BitBear]

Let me know how it goes!

[@purplatypus7405]

New reward meta hype.

[@16BitBear]

Hype train. Chugga Chugga Woot Woot :)

[@davewhispers7720]

Can you do a video on the new merchant campaign. It's a whole different game than most others and would be a great topic to cover.

[@thewobbinator8410]

I can't speed run it. The story is soo interesting. Acambe's dark secret. Cocoa's tragic backstory. Homa's hilarious antics. I spent the whole day today reading the dialogues in the battles enountered by my caravans and the story cut scenes every week refresh. Spiral of Destiny is the best part of this game in my opinion. Introducing lore and rewarding you with a lot of resources!

[@16BitBear]

Yeah I do the full stories, but I figured it’s worth burning a key for science!

[@drivecFC]

recruited assassin is a great dodge tank meaning he can 2v1 and take no damage for couple of rounds. he has great speed for missions where mobility and time matter. he also has hook to setup knocking off edge of bridge or cliff. beside that if you have gloria is A+. you get offered alot of healers. abyss can be great. i disagree with takeing thunderstruck over Maneuver Command feel like being able to move a character across the map is super op. I feel like maneuver along with other commands can help you assassinate bosses or end the map immediately if needed. edit: for speed running I could see where thunderstruck would be better but I think over a full playthrough I dont think it would be

[@16BitBear]

Full play through you end up with multiple tactics too, so you can have both if they are offered.

[@7SGThenkai]

24:00 at character select you can bring people from Elysium, don't know why, but its there...

[@16BitBear]

Good to know, thank you.

[@thetimeisnow2827]

Cool vid btw, on an unrelated note... I didn't know you can use your Elysium characters at your current lvl in SoD...

[@16BitBear]

It was news to me too.

[@8Robba]

Heeey, you also chose do go down with Gloria in that Lutfi path? :D Fun ^^ Man, I love Spiral. The only gripe with it is that I wish the Beacon system would be more flexible. I wish there would be mechanics allowing me to unlock multiple beacons on multiple runs, so that I dont have to just back to week 10 or something like that to try a new branch, only. Regrinding is annoying. Thats why I am interesstied in this video. Like I want to find out if there are good auto strats or if there is a real downside to keep the merch level unpublisized to make the runs easier (asside from the one time achievements of course) I am not sure if I am able to sit trough this video though, because I dont know when the spoilers will hit me to hard.

[@16BitBear]

Had to go with Gloria. Spoilers are mostly in the beginning and end as you’ll see stills from endings in my achievements. But yeah to be safe not watching is the only way to not get any.

[@8Robba]

​@@16BitBear it was such a freaking tragic ending, tho XD Was my first run trough the gamemode - when I thought there might be hidden variables to safe multiple people, yet. I am sure these options will come later as form of a natural story progression of the spiraling worlds, that with the knowledge of the world you gained from your trial and error you find all the pieces you need to unify the righteous and willing into the true ending or something ^^ It was helpful. Didnt deliver an efficient solution in the form I hoped but it was still helpful

[@nguyentranminhthoi8962]

Is it matter if i need to kill much opponent as possibly for more point or i just need finish quickly on every battle and still got the same point?

[@16BitBear]

Preference really. You get points and achievements for enemies defeated but you’ll be in the mission longer. In the long run it probably evens out.

[@VRietySociety]

take the papal states beacon. fail the stage goal intentionally. you also get 1 astral tear

[@16BitBear]

I wish the tears were more plentiful as well, I feel like more per run would be acceptable.

[@Riviet]

So in terms of avoiding spoilers, am i safe to watch this video after i have completed my first full playthrough?

[@16BitBear]

I have 3 playthroughs done on that recording so probably still spoilers.

[@Riviet]

@@16BitBear noted, thank you

[@RoshanKumar-mk1ki]

I started dawn earlier with low level characters and have a long way to go. Can i abandon the run and restart? I dont want to miss out to luxites from the old spiral of destiny as well as the story before moving on to the new one

[@16BitBear]

You can abandon but you lose the progress in your current run and need a key to start a new one.

[@austinseph1]

Is there any reason not to just use Elysium characters to just mow down fights on auto? You get levels through training but I don't know if there are any real downsides if you are just rerunning for different endings..

[@16BitBear]

No downside I can think of. Strong units will just help you clear faster.

[@molturcain6053]

I have all the endings except the bad one from Lutfi and the new ones from Elaman and I'm still trying to get the achievement of reaching radiant with the mercenary guild, I got the trade one very easily but the other one is still completing the most difficult missions and sending caravans it's impossible

[@16BitBear]

That is some crazy progress, you are way further than me overall.

[@learnthis4768]

Is forging important? I have skipped it completely in my runs.

[@16BitBear]

It gives you knowledge points and eventually you can make legendary gear. It’ll make you stronger for sure.

[@richmon78]

You can sell a "dainty doll" for 2000 gold. You can get them from the Beryl pathfinder quests and maybe other Beryl rewards.

[@16BitBear]

Ahh nice. I’ll have to remember that in my normal runs. I can think of at least one path that 2k would be handy.

[@JohnSmith-fx2mz]

What's the penalty for just bailing on a run? I started one right at the beginning of launch never finished. All my characters are trash and maps are a grind.

[@16BitBear]

You lose the progress on the route you are in.

[@johnyprigioni859]

You can't unfortunately. More story than Disco Elysium, I swear. And I love Disco Elysium.

[@16BitBear]

It was fun for the science at least.

[@ShowtimeDr]

Try out Planescape Torment if you like Disco Elysium.

[@jmdaccess]

Anyone wanna share their best auto unit lineup? 😄

[@16BitBear]

I think purplatypus has a video on auto teams, I wonder if they’d work here. I haven’t really tried it.

[@tinecchi3648]

what is the point of using units that you train and upgrade instead of your own units?

[@16BitBear]

On a normal run you will need your units to rest sometimes. Also you will need more that you bring to fill in a mission. Beyond that you have dispatches that require certain leveled units.

[@tinecchi3648]

@@16BitBear yeah that is fine I’m talking about the fight quests. Because I can deploy my own units that don’t use any stamina up and clear the stage in a second. But in town I still Level everything normally. Just for the battles I use my lvl 55 units and I havnt noticed any drawback

[@jayellgee]

Just wrapped up my first run today to try out the new story that dropped. It was not the happiest ending.

[@16BitBear]

Yeah I’ve found three bad endings lol.

[@jayellgee]

@@16BitBear I was just trying to make best girl Gloria happy, but I still got thrown into a different route. I did get a beacon out of it, so I guess I’ll revisit it on run three. Gloria/Simona/Ballista sounds like a fun core 3 to bring with Gloria’s aura.

[@jeandro1994]

people who don't like SoD are the same ones who don't eat their veggies

[@16BitBear]

Gotta get those greens in :)

[@evrys3221]

Spiral is so good, it's crazy to me that people don't like it.

[@16BitBear]

I love it though I do wish I could start new runs even further in.

[@evrys3221]

@@16BitBear yea, thats true

[@VyanTan]

It's because it took so much time to do 1 cycle. They made the key can get expired doesn't help either. Not everyone have a lot of time to play the game. Especially most people play multiple game at the same time.

[@lpn6530]

Why aren’t you using your Elysium units? They are available since the last patch update and are probably all level 55+…

[@16BitBear]

I recorded this before starting the new route.

[@geralddavevallente8762]

​@@16BitBear which video?

[@xvvvvvvvv]

I do auto in sod with max level col elysium character

[@16BitBear]

Col is great in Spiral, especially if you get the act again training and can chain kill even more.

[@DiegoDinda]

i hate spiral of destiny , much boring

[@16BitBear]

It’s not for everyone and I respect that. Still nice to grind some rewards though. Maybe toss on a show and run it in the background?