Can You Turn A Violin Into A Guitar?

[@RobLandes]

How do you think it turned out?

[@mohammedalkhodairy]

Hi

[@mohammedalkhodairy]

Never gonna give you up

[@sriramkaushal9299]

It sounded great! The sound wasn't as effective as a violin but I guess you are the magician and your friend is the magical craftsman 😃 Music wise awesome!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@sriramkaushal9299 a Fretted Viper should work

[@EichelFein]

I love violin been playing it for 5 years now its na really amazing instrument!

[@nikkospelledlikethat8140]

As a guitarist it’s always broken my brain how string instruments are played without frets like how do you know where the notes are then???

[@melissacalderon6534]

Memorization

[@aiaiaiyourlittlebutterfly.mp4]

SAME DOUBT 😭

[@karuma3755]

You just kinda.. know? Idk how to explain it. Most violinists star with “tapes” on that are like mini frets almost. And after that you memorize it

[@raneemarabi3725]

I have to finger tapes on my violin but all the other fingers just know we’re to go

[@yulianamour]

Muscle memories

[@potatoqueen5248]

The dog singing along with Rob was so cute! What a good puppy

[@imjustsomeguy]

At least with frets, you can hit the right note easily. Violinists really impress me with how they can hit the right note without being too flat or too sharp on a smooth fingerboard

[@陳曦-p3j]

yeah all that practice required

[@aarphotos5]

Was it just me who thought he was gonna play the violin like a guitar

[@JJ_TheGreat]

There is a video about that! :-

[@Muzikman127]

@@JJ_TheGreat what's the title of that video?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Geared Tuners and Black Diamond N719 Strings would make things sound more interesting.

[@withercloudgaming7224]

you're a madman rob! I am now inspired again to practice even though I practice everyday haha

[@mnightmare5036]

practice 40 hours a day

[@gamerpro087]

@@mnightmare5036 That’s from TwoSetViolin!

[@isaacmoon3823]

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[@trivikram4962]

PRACTICE 40HOURS EVERYDAY!! 😈

[@flutechannel]

Turned out great! I love doing experiments like that! You really knocked it out of the park!

[@flrn84791]

Having this done on a Yamaha YEV-105 by a British luthier soon, crazy to see you do that now! Definitely helps in seeing the process. Filing the frets down should help a lot with shifting and vibrato. Great video, thank you Rob!

[@lepersjoy]

This kind of reminds me of my 4 string mandolin with the frets, although the mandolin doesn't have that curve in the fingerboard that he ran into when the frets popped out. Great video! Thanks for the quality content.

[@RobLandes]

Yes! More of a Mandolin/Violin cross. Thanks for watchihng Leiros!

[@SlippyLegJones]

Playing a mandolin with a bow is funny. Playing a guitar with a bow is funnier. Playing a trumpet with a bow...

[@smashboom]

Pssst, it is called Pizzicato ! Thanks to my one year of violon-studying, but I stopped, cuz it's too much hard, that's why I have an infinite respect for you Rob Landes !

[@siskochilhavisto.2633]

Pizzicato, Ah my Italy, Paganini does not repeat 🇮🇹

[@Happy_spider_boi]

*VIOLON*

[@trumpetdewd3024]

pizzzzzzy

[@GreatBeanMan]

Nice you studied violon I wonder what would happen if you knew violin too maybe you would be a master

[@smashboom]

@@GreatBeanMan pizzicato is a technic of the violin, and sorry when I wrote « violon » it was my autocorrect because I’m French.

[@10data10]

I use one of the fingerboard stickers with frets that you showed at the beginning of your video on one of my violins. I think it helps with my practice. I’m placing my fingers right on top of the frets rather than just behind them - except for my fourth finger which I will admit tends to get a little bit lazy and starts being placed behind the fret. I’ve been trying to learn Bach’s prelude #1 for cello and the frets on my violin have been very helpful. The frets also help with left hand tension. As I work on something I try to use less left hand pressure and at that point if I can actually feel the frets then I know pressing down too hard. Reducing left hand tension helps with my bow arm.

[@RobLandes]

Yes! Relaxation is key to speed and endurance. If you’d like to check out the fundamentals I teach, you can see the course I have now for 50% off: tinyurl.com/ViolinJumpstart

[@quarkhead5044]

That final performance was **chef's kiss** awe-inspiring

[@MylifeKpop.]

Two of my favourite instruments together and it's sponsored by lord of the rings, best vid ever

[@jocimar1625]

This is simply amazing, love how you are always bring something new to us ❤️

[@jamesrobbins4020]

This is pretty sick

[@LoLo-yh1bi]

Its a really nice video. But i think, that wooden frets would be better, because now it sounds a littlebit metallic. With wooden frets or with some, comparable to median age lutes, it could be more "Natural".

[@piranhaplantX]

Yeah, I wonder how it would sound with a custom made fingerboard with the frets just being raised bits of the ebony.

[@basgerritsen9669]

Its super easy and works very well. Just tie on some gut frets like a viola da gamba fingerboard and you'll be done in half an hour. You can even move them to change the desired temprament!

[@valentinkovshik]

In fact, the instruments from the viola da gamba family are fretted (with gut frets) and they exist for 500 years. Frets are not bad for bowed instruments at all. The violin community is just very conservative and continues to spread a lot of stereotypes. For example, they say that vibrato is completely impossible with frets (we can see it is not true), that mechanical tuners are bad, etc.

[@perpetuallyonline]

being fretless has its own advantages too, at least they can have a smooth glissando and dont have to stick to the 12 tone tuning system

[@Neris-of-the-other]

That is so *SACRILEGIOUS*

[@rec2you]

Roman Kim has a similar fretboard on the violin, but not as rough. 🙂

[@crcomments8509]

Lots of violin manufacturers will fit frets. Especially in the electric violin territory. Most notably Mark Woods Viper, these use much finer forests though.. There are two ways of fretting a violin, like a guitar where your finger goes behind the fret, or barely noticeable frets where they are there primarily so you can sense the position. When playing in a loud band you often can’t fully hear yourself and then your intonation will be way off.

[@russellturner2507]

That was certainly very interesting and gave a fair result, but... The awesome bass guitar player, Leland Sklar, frets his basses with mandolin wire which is thinner than guitar fret wire. I think that might give a result that would be more suitable to the violin and would make vibrato much easier to do as well being less like "speedbumps" on the fingerboard.

[@intentress9812]

I think it turned out great. Yes the notes are different, but it still sounds good if you put meaning into it, like the way you play.

[@harrycrosswell2844]

HAHAHA i see you followed through with your comment on Charles Berthoud's fretless bass video! Bravo

[@LatchezarDimitrov]

OK, like experiance-why no? But in general I don't see any interest to use frets. Limited intonation, vibrato, glissando etc If no, your video is splendid like usually!

[@alanfbrookes9771]

Been there, done that, A few observations. Firstly, if you don't like the shortness of the fingerboard, start off with a viola or a 'cello. Secondly, those glue-on fingerboards that they make for violins have the same problems as the frets that you put on ....they don't stay flat at the edges. Thirdly, mandolin makers have no problems making short, curved fingerboards, so maybe you should have taken your violin to a mandolin builder and asked him to fit a mandolin neck and fingerboard, Fifth, but not last, why not just get yourself a mandolin and play it with a bow? A mandolin is a ready-made fiddle with a bow ! And an archtop guitar is already a 'cello with a fingerboard. (Yes, I know about the viola da gamba....)

[@0713mas]

Looks cool! I am a guitar player I wanted to learn to play violin and I always wondered 2 things. #1. why don't beginner violins just have some low scalloped frets or even inlay fret markers for a visual cue. I just painted frets on with silver model paint. Many instructors even have students tape makers. #2 Why don't violin like instruments have geared tuning pegs? The kids string section of every elementary school is always the most out of tune group, hurts my head.

[@itsjustsidd]

Tbh i think the fretted violin sounded super crisp and would sound amazing with comps that had a lot of short notes

[@SneakyTogedemaru]

Jordan is a hero! I'm off searching for a video about doing crazy vibratos on fretless guitar.

[@justanotherrandomguy......6969]

Damn he can open a costume store considering number of costumes he have 😂

[@theo-potter]

I should show this video to a beginner violonist

[@yo_mama6414]

You have inspired me to practice 25 hours a day, 8 days a week, 32 days a month

[@Gab2456_]

I swear to god rob ive been repeating the dog singing with the violin for 20 minutes now.

[@nav5365]

How does it sound when you play pizzicato? Does it sound better than an original violin?

[@arnaldofettuccine5227]

In your hands, it sounds amazing as always 👍👍💗

[@erikak8187]

Interesting. Not what I was expecting. So awesome

[@carbon1255]

Those are virgin frets, they could do with being filed down to be honest, to get it started for you. A guitar tech might be able to help you a little there. Also, I believe they invented this instrument, it is called a "Mandolin" xDDDD

[@RobLandes]

haha it sounds so much like a mandolin! More of a cross between a violin and a mandolin since I can bow it. Filing down the frets would help them feel more comfortable, for sure.

[@julianprzybysawski8543]

Honestly the fretted violin doesn't have a bad sound, but it would only work in certain genres

[@jsv438]

Basically you have there a really cool mandolin! ~JSV

[@andrestp]

Hi, thanks for your video.. Can the violin tuned just like guitar intervals, on fourth? D-G-B-E Or Ukulele with bowed version? G-C-E-A Regardless different tuning and tensions, Is it playable?

[@hanschristiaanhylkema]

I've tried that and it works. But the strings of a violin are much closer near eachother so it's harder to play certain chords that require 3 fingers next to eachother, like for example an A-major chord. On a guitar you have can place 3 fingers next to eachother on the second fret but on a violin there's not enough room for that which results in certain fingers moving to a slightly lower or higher position resulting in playing a slightly lower or higher note.

[@masyrafnukman3932]

I wish you continued success in the field of KZbin thank you

[@dim4eg123123]

Vibrato on fretted instruments usually is done by moving fingers vertically, not horizontally, as on frettless. Thats why you had some problems with it.

[@tohrmentrixabyss1713]

Would have been nice to hear some notes from each one without the backing track. I could hear the difference but it was hard to pick out

[@fen17072010]

I agree

[@ulexite-tv]

I agree.

[@adamjessop4063]

Literally the only two instruments I have ever played are guitar and violin so cool

[@TheAlanlandes]

Oh how sacrilegious this was. What would Stradivarius have said?

[@vladimirprzygodzki6691]

@@TheAlanlandes at his time the viols (i said viol not violin) was fretted with gut frets..

[@tabbytia6325]

at 1:52 i can hear brett and eddy crying

[@TheMrWoodrat]

Next step - when Davie504 and Two Set Violins makes three BASS Violins to play with you:)

[@petedz9772]

What a cool idea Rob. Give that fretted Frankenstein to a decent ukulele or mandolin player and create a video of their experience! It seems sacrilegious to fret a violin, but you might have just hit on the next instrument craze.

[@willcorff]

I wonder if he could make a violin that is designed like a resonator guitar, like a metal violin body with resonator things, I wonder what it would sound like

[@-shanta-]

honestly i play my viola like a guitar all the time, it’s not too hard once you figure out how to make chords with the strings tuned in fifths rather than major/minor thirds. i feel like it goes out of tune very quickly from all the aggressive plucking/strumming but that’s a sacrifice i’m willing to make.

[@magogomez7664]

Thank u for the advice. I'm going to try a guitar piece on my viola, I want to try some Mexican corridos

[@hanschristiaanhylkema]

Hello Shanta, I play my viola like a guitar as well, since I've put frets on them. But I'm wondering, do you bow whole chords as well? I've noticed that when I pluck chords on my fretted viola, it sounds good and in tune but when I bow chords, they don't always sound in tune. Do you have the same experience?

[@-shanta-]

@@hanschristiaanhylkema one of the exercises I've done quite a bit is one where you bow different chords in quick succession. this helps your fingers to find positions easily and quickly, and develops your bow technique. as my viola doesn't have frets im not really sure what the issue could be on yours other than if your strings are out of tune.

[@klauskruger6187]

5:15 Doggie is singing basis tone D plus terz Fis.

[@93sergio]

This process has a lot of ASMR potential

[@BrendanThompson]

vibrato on a violin is a totally different motion than on guitar. on a guitar you need to bend the string up and down ACROSS the fingerboard, whereas on a violin you wobble back and forth (ALONG the fingerboard)

[@480brad]

What a craftsman!

[@chapinero017]

This wacky projects seem FUN MORE MORE MORE PLEASE!

[@Revansstuntdouble]

@ 0:27 I now have a hard time distinguishing Idubbz and Stevie T. Thought it was Stevie T for sure.

[@MCproaedificater]

honestly the fretted violin has a crisper sound

[@lowkeyben]

Hey Rob,I'm having a violin tomorrow,What should I learn first?

[@batkamarri13]

3:55 felt like I went to heaven but God told me it wasn't my time again.

[@maksiksq]

That's how new instruments are made

[@nowaydudethatscrazy]

"The Mandalorian builds new gear for the musical foundling."

[@JoltFlyer]

That's a surprisingly musical dog

[@glubtier]

My favorite part was the sing-a-long with the dog.

[@JJ_TheGreat]

5:48 Considering that all violins don’t sound the same to begin with, how is this going to be a fair comparison?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Neat almost more like a Mandolin

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

You know the Fretted Viper?

[@RobLandes]

Yes! Played it once or twice

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@RobLandes I guess the Fretted Viper answers that question alot easier cause it's modeled after the Flying V. It has Mechanical Pegs for quicker easier tuning, it's electric, & w/ up to 7 strings (Bb, F, C, G, D, A, E) it's great for song arranging, along w. a CodaBow Joule. They also feature a Fret Marker Configuration as start points for each scale. It uses a Strap to keep it in playing position. These Frets are filed down nearly flush w/ the fret board & you play directly on them to make them work.

[@flrn84791]

It's not the only one electric violin, NS Design and Zeta also make fretted violins. Check out Electric Violin Shop.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@flrn84791 Yes very common

[@koloios_beats]

When do you think I should change my A string? It's starting to tear

[@RobLandes]

Last month

[@MightyJonE]

And from henceforth was born...the viotar!

[@arheshaarhesha9578]

Twoset would be proud, because now Brett has a way to achieve perfect pitch.

[@bencze465]

Good intonation doesn't require perfect pitch.

[@dnieto1466]

Since the sonic 2 movie is gonna release soon can you do a sound track of sonic on a violin?

[@gamerpro087]

You’re turning the violin into a mandolin.

[@-RONNIE]

He did an amazing job & to tell you the truth I didn't think it was going to work but I can admit when I'm wrong also I'm very impressed 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@realdanielshock]

"violin but all the hard work is removed"

[@flrn84791]

Well not completely. Frets help, but you still gotta bow right, vibrato right, and shift kinda right. It's not a magical tool :D

[@realdanielshock]

@@flrn84791 most of the effort required to play violin is included in intonation

[@flrn84791]

@@realdanielshock agree to disagree 🤷‍♂️

[@realdanielshock]

@@flrn84791 have a nice day

[@rodb335]

Great video but what I really want to know is will he sell fretted fingerboards for violins I've been looking and looking and looking for someone that sells threaded fingerboards I can install the fingerboard myself no one that I found sells them. And I want a fretted violin so bad I refuse to buy stickers

[@jakerazmataz852]

1:45 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MatthewBowe]

How have I never heard of Sugarhouse violins?

[@jmb462]

Now let's turn it into bagpipes !

[@shashankshirsat9779]

Smells like guitar spirit.....

[@RXGaming-mt6yr]

Too amazing

[@joao_oak]

Thank you for sharing that. I played Viola/Violin when I was young, but I totally forgot how to play, and like many adults, I don't have too much free time to keep studying violin. For sure I'll reach a local violin maker to help me with some project as you did. I just want to play some music at my home, and not be a professional violinist.

[@RobLandes]

If you want to get better at home in 15-20 min a day, I’ve got a course I teach on how to learn your first song in 30 days. Email me at [e-mail] to learn more! Thanks for watching Joao!

[@Garfield_Minecraft]

You are krazy bru

[@Sliverwalker]

Is this a Guiola or a Viotar?

[@在下一小卒]

now surprisingly, now it looks like a ukelele and works like one.

[@Bass_Brain]

I want to do that with my upright bass lol

[@GarGlingT]

Violin use position but guitar press on back of position(fret)

[@anastasiahopkinson5676]

Clue me in. How can one hear the violin with all that loud music "accompanying" it?

[@infernumful]

3:50 name of the song, please?

[@RobLandes]

Salut d'Amour

[@ssimms8995]

KZbin targeted this video as a musician who went from violin to a fretted instrument (bass guitar)🤣

[@Archmage88ttv]

Had this for years 😆

[@biskut330]

sacrilegious LING-LINGS ASSSSEMMMBLEEEEE!!!!!!

[@clacclackerson3678]

Why not just tie the frets on using nylon strings? That's how they put frets on gitterns and lutes in medieval and renaissance times, except they used gut. Much less fuss than this.

[@ДжедайизКазахстана]

Welcome to the masochistic club for musicians!

[@joel7041]

Next up is a whammy bar

[@archieshaver9391]

Rob, you could play a cardboard box and make it sound awesome!

[@ephraimwarrior6766]

Sound the same i heard a bass guitar player tunn his bass to same tunning as this it sound sick lol

[@Mirro18]

I am... unsure if I am the only one hearing this, but the frets kinda sound like... a tiny bit out of tune? Okay that sounds worse than it is, but I mean not like "this is bad" out of tune, but more like how a Piano is kinda spaced in the well tempered thing. It was only 1-2 notes I noticed it at, but that made me wonder... are the frets on a guitar doing the same thing as the keys on a piano? I would guess so but i just never "observed" that as much and given intonation is more "perfect" on a violin it just kinda stood out to me.

[@abhi7276.]

Love from India 🇮🇳❤️

[@COR4ZON]

The memes make a good video better.

[@dandymcgee]

This is stupid. I love it.