I Try Every Violin on Amazon 🎻

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In this video, I try 8 different instruments to find which Amazon violin is the best value (so you don't have to!)
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0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Unboxing ASMR
00:45 - $23
1:00 - $39
02:47 - $90
04:15 - $130
05:23 - $170
07:16 - $340
09:57 - $575
12:06 - $740

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@RayChenViolinist 6 ай бұрын

Which violin did you think sounded the best? 😄No matter which instrument you choose, you still gotta practice: tonicmusic.app/practice-together Don't be lonely, let's have fun and practice together!

@aayushh___ 6 ай бұрын

I'll let you know in 4 hours 👍

@BlackViolinist_ 6 ай бұрын

This is a good time I can manage the $340 violin now I don't own an instrument😢 9:31

@Cessna172G 6 ай бұрын

Love the video!

@bradingrao8496 6 ай бұрын

I'd also like to chat about a Tonic collaboration with the Association of Adult Musicians with Hearing Loss for students with hearing loss as well as would like to create a video with you about hearing conservation/protection for musicians to be included in the Tonic ecosystem.

@ACompassionateHeartSchool 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, Ray! ❤

@todo9633 6 ай бұрын

Me: That sounds pretty good Him: Terrible Me: Terrible

@poisonedsponge8238 2 ай бұрын

i play the viola so i actually know what its supposed to sound like, what abt u?

@aethro Ай бұрын

@@poisonedsponge8238 probably the lamest flex I've ever seen

@totalwar1793 Ай бұрын

Btw, it would sound a lot worse IRL than it would on screen. There's a... muddiness to the sound that's on the screen, but it's somewhat masked by the reverb.

@astrisprill696 Ай бұрын

@@aethro how is that a flex?

@Nour-xo2lp Ай бұрын

Ok but i succeed at school and entered in the most reputed school of your country but decides to choose to go to oxford bc im a genius what avout you?😒@@poisonedsponge8238

@lordneeko 6 ай бұрын

The $39 clip shows that even a crap violin sounds beautiful in the hands of a professional, to the ears of an amateur. 😊

@dj_koen1265 6 ай бұрын

It sounded awful though Some of the other violins weren’t half as bad

@ghillies4life 6 ай бұрын

But to anyone with any musical training, it sounds like garbage

@alfsmith4936 6 ай бұрын

@@dj_koen1265Yea.. But a country player could put a pickup on it and fill it with foam for live use..

@itsyaboiherman 3 ай бұрын

True

@wickster2121 Ай бұрын

no...u can't polish a turd even with the best materials in the case of the green violin.

@Greenteac 6 ай бұрын

You can tell how happy Ray is every time he gets to talk about his Strad 🤭

@Furetto126 6 ай бұрын

the comment under here is a bot dont listen to it.

@tyfalma 6 ай бұрын

Is it his own Strad or is it lent to him?

@danielklempner4786 6 ай бұрын

The "Dolphin" Stradivarius is lent to him by the Nippon Music Foundation. It costs about 10 million dollars.@@tyfalma

@jbenoit1962 6 ай бұрын

Strads are owned by collectors - collectors being diversified investors worth more than a hundred million as a starting figure and going up exponentially from there. They "own" them but they tend to be lent out on permanent, super dooper well insured loan to Maestros like Rey for their lifetime. Thankfully the culture is that those instruments are to be showcased to the fullest extent and shared actively with the world. Rey would have no reason to buy one. If anything happened to this one he'd have his pick of several others. That's what happens when you're one of the best in the world.

@kishascape 5 ай бұрын

@@jbenoit1962not true, some do own their own. Not all Stradivarius either. Some have the more Superior Maggini or Guarneri violins.

@SeasickSailor76 6 ай бұрын

Ray, you could play a $20 snare drum and make it sound like a decent violin! 😀 Provided you used your own bow, of course. 😛

@AnnoyingBandKid 6 ай бұрын

So true...

@hayoolleeviolin9779 6 ай бұрын

He can probaly even do it without his bow

@TwoSetViolinEdits 6 ай бұрын

@@hayoolleeviolin9779you’d be surprised, bows make a major difference. Get it? Major = big Major key = brighter/happier

@gillian5871 6 ай бұрын

A great prove on how important the bow is

@vitakhan307 6 ай бұрын

😊😊

@generaladmi 6 ай бұрын

I fully agree with the 340$ violin, however, I think you might be getting a second-hand refurbished violin with a better sound only at a slightly higher price.

@ldkmelon 6 ай бұрын

I agree, although shopping refurbished can be more risky for those new to violin might not recognized how properly refurbished it is.

@donw3861 6 ай бұрын

Beware of the plastic violin....👹🤑🥸🙏👍😜

@name-hf2ht 4 ай бұрын

thing is, good violins don't really get cheaper just because they're second hand, sometimes on the contrary. it's just not how it works.

@benfreedman7901 6 ай бұрын

Fun fact is a couple weeks before this video came out. I recommended the bunnel for one of my beginner Violin students... she got it last week and we agreed that it's a really nice instrument for the price! Imagine my surprise when I saw you review it!

@kitchen-knife-1 6 ай бұрын

Sibelious on a $39 violin gives you chills for a different reason.

@blueishsio 6 ай бұрын

Halloween is coming up 😂

@AsinT. Ай бұрын

PTSD from your little sister playing?

@-Elmimaru_ 5 ай бұрын

I have the 340$ violin I was scared about what you’d say about it but I’m happy that you rated it good I’ve used it for about 3 months and it works good for a beginner!

@user-uc4vc9by3y 5 ай бұрын

What’s the brand,model and the size of this violin??

@Shadowborg 3 ай бұрын

@@user-uc4vc9by3yIt's a Bunnel Violin by Kennedy Violins. I believe it's the pupil model in 4/4 fullsize.

@-Elmimaru_ 6 күн бұрын

@@user-uc4vc9by3yI got the 3/4 but their other sizes idk really know the others

@PaulinaAiko 6 ай бұрын

I exclusively played on an $80 amazon violin for the first 7-8months of learning until I found out rentals were a thing! Of course I wish I would have switched earlier, but at the same time not sure I would have even started playing the violin if it weren’t for the easy and cheap amazon option to just try it out in the first instance, so super thankful for that 😊

@Exayevie 6 ай бұрын

I second this! I bought a $40 dollar violin just so I could see what it's like to hold and what you have to do to make a sound on it. I had never touched a violin, or known a single violinist, before that, so it was the only way I could get some tactile exposure to the instrument at all. I say it was worth it! I can't afford lessons right now (in terms of money or of time), but if/when I am ever ready I will upgrade. The $40 instrument was just what I needed to play and experiment and decide if I liked it or not.

@sfaballman6467 6 ай бұрын

@@Exayevie still though you can rent a much better instrument for a lot cheaper just to try it out for a month

@Azzne- 6 ай бұрын

Same actually

@Exayevie 6 ай бұрын

@@sfaballman6467 True, but if I buy it I can also hand it over to curious nieces and nephews for the same experience.

@inkuii 6 ай бұрын

Count yourself lucky. I play flute, but I exclusively used $80 amazon flutes for 7 years, and my band director had to pull me aside and tell me that my shitty instruments were hindering my performance for my parents to finally go and get me a rental instrument. It was as if my skill had improved overnight :')

@BobHopePot 6 ай бұрын

Please play more of each one, especially the cheap ones! Very interesting video!

@sarina6164 6 ай бұрын

The Bunnel violin is only $280 direct from Kennedy Violins the manufacturer. They also have clearance models with small imperfections or discontinued varnishes starting at $270. My kids are really young and will keep on growing out of small violins so I buy them from Kennedy Violins. Buying is already cheaper than rental and I don't have to worry about kids accidentally breaking an expensive rental.

@The_Real_Goodboy_Link Ай бұрын

Kennedy Violins is pretty great!

@Neptune_551 Ай бұрын

I prefer mendini from cecilio but that's great!!!

@gillian5871 6 ай бұрын

Maybe you can try using the bows provided to play your own violin? It will be a very interesting experiment on how the bow affects the quality

@Xarx42 6 ай бұрын

Hm, if you have a new bow with unused hair it takes some time until its played in. Doing this with every bow would be quite a tedious project.

@joewhang0514 5 ай бұрын

he will never use those crappy bows on his 10M strad LOL.

@kristintripp967 5 ай бұрын

Ha ha, yes, I just tried out a couple of violins at a shop this week and first used their bow to play them. Turned out the bow cost more than either of the violins did, lol. When I switched to my own $350 bow, there was a noticeable difference! Note to self - after upgrading the violin, then save to upgrade the bow. 😅

@mrittikafadikar2634 6 ай бұрын

"this is the best thing you will ever have" to the green violin was personal.

@penguinlover2274 6 ай бұрын

I liked the sound of the 90 dollar and the 340 dollar ones the most Thank you for the cute and fun reviews!

@Wooster77 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if the Amz product pages for some of those violins will soon say "played and endorsed by Ray Chen."

@Candy-lh2pq 6 ай бұрын

fr tho lol

@InXLsisDeo 5 ай бұрын

They legally couldn't, unless he accepts. Which probably means an endorsement contract.

@MattinLapland 6 ай бұрын

You do know you can buy an old circa 1800 German violin for under 300 Euros? That’s what I bought and then got the top plate restored and hey presto I have a fantastic sounding violin that outperforms the cheaper modern day more expensive violins 😊

@adelaidefoster7320 6 ай бұрын

I have one like this I bought a few years ago for 450 already fixed by a luthier, but there are some cracks that will destroy it and the d string is so much louder than the other strings weirdly enough.

@MattinLapland 6 ай бұрын

@@adelaidefoster7320Mine had plenty of cracks but all fixed now. It had first been repaired in 1901 it’s a ‘well used’ violin! 🙈

@jimmierustler5607 6 ай бұрын

Factory violin you mean

@InXLsisDeo 5 ай бұрын

It's random though, plenty of old german violins of the 1800 were complete junk, according to a luthier who makes videos on KZbin.

@goldika 6 ай бұрын

When I started to learn the violin 3 years ago I bought a Stentor for 180€ online (a cheaper model than this). It did well for the very start but after 6 months I upgraded to a violin from the luthier, which was a huuge difference! When buying a cheap (old) violin online I would recommend giving a close look at the varnish. You can see quite easily if it's industrial varnish or not and that often tells a lot about the overall quality 🙃

@BMDviola05 6 ай бұрын

Same! Started on a Stentor viola and then got one from my local luthier, and it was unreal to me how much better it was!

@TwoSetViolinEdits 6 ай бұрын

I was 3 as well, when I started!

@bradingrao8496 6 ай бұрын

Love these comparisons. As an audiologist and audio geek, I'd love to chat with you about some ways to make these comparisons more data driven and also accessible to musicians with hearing loss. Keep up the great work!

@wanyuhuang8802 5 ай бұрын

I wonder how well the performance will be, when getting to cross-validating data-driven rating and musician rating (i e., how well can algorithms potentially replace musicians' judgement?)

@bradingrao8496 5 ай бұрын

@@wanyuhuang8802 I'm not suggesting replacing musician opinions or creating algorithms. I'm talking about identifying ways that musicians with hearing loss can better understand the harmonic voice of an instrument to determine if it is compatible with their hearing and hearing assistive technology.

@wanyuhuang8802 5 ай бұрын

@@bradingrao8496 That's nice. I was thinking both musically & statistically just now.

@Bekindtopeople 6 ай бұрын

Ray, you really need to review the Fiddlershop Violins. They have violins I believe starting at 150 and they even have professional fine instruments as well. But the Fiddlershop series has all kinds of violins for beginners up up to advanced intermediate. And the quality is far better than what is available online for the same price if not less.

@LyndieZ 6 ай бұрын

Agreed! Fiddlershop violins have been on my list for a while and I’m having trouble finding reviewers who weren’t sent violins. Please do a fiddlershop review, Ray, thank you!!

@Bekindtopeople 6 ай бұрын

@@LyndieZ I tried a bunch of their violins and by far the best quality. I did an exhaustive search including trying violins from 4 local shops. I have playing Fiddlershop’s Concert violin, symphony violin, glassier carbon fiber violin, and several Holstein Bench violins! I own their Holstein bench Maggini special edition violin, and it’s sounds like a violin that usually costs double the price. They get their violins from the best workshops! By far the best place to buy a violin online ( or in person if you can get to their Florida store) especially when trying not to get ripped off.

@marktwain3531 6 ай бұрын

I like DZ strad's violins, they're not cheap instruments like the rest, a genuine violin maker based out of White Plains, NY, USA (you just happened to buy one of their cheaper instruments). Their Model 300 violins go for about $999, and they're beautiful instruments that I would recommend to anyone who wants a good instrument, and really just plays as a hobby. Furthermore, they have nicer options, and are more expensive. Their model 609 violin goes for about $2500. D.Z. Strad is the name of the maker, not intentionally named after Stradivari.

@kabarihendrick8015 Ай бұрын

I was choosing between the DZ Strad and Cremona around the same price. I ended up going with the Cremona. It seemed the main difference around that price was the case quality.

@katherinemurphy2762 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for reviewing Amazon violins. I'm a public school teacher and teach elementary strings. Although I advise my students not to buy their instruments on Amazon, inevitably I have several who do. It's helpful to know what is on the better end of decent.

@String-Samurai 6 ай бұрын

The Cecilio instrument Ray tried looks like Cecilio's higher-end model. I agree with you that they’re “not bad”. They may need some adjustment at a local luthier, but their tone quality will often last through elementary or middle school. The Cecilio instruments that students generally bring in, however, are the lower tier "Mendini by Cecilio" model. They run about $85 and generally have a great deal of things wrong with them. It’ll cost anywhere from $100-$500 at a local luthier to get them into playable condition, depending on which maladies must be addressed, though not all luthiers will agree to work on them. Once adjusted, the tone is sometimes okay for elementary school, but at other times is so poor that the student will quit after a couple months. And so, why pay the money to get it adjusted when you could have paid that same money for a better instrument? So, parents - don’t buy a Cecilio! You might get lucky and have an okay instrument, but you’re more likely to have purchased disappointed.

@siddhaarthanad479 6 ай бұрын

I got the same Cecilo violin from Amazon. Maybe this violinnis getting more popular in Amazon recently? It's been sounding pretty decent for my level of playing so far

@francorodrigodequentino 5 ай бұрын

@@siddhaarthanad479yeah same here!! Mine is decent!

@OpinionatedAmateur 5 ай бұрын

Higher end range(Cecilio), Lower end range (Mendini). Both ranges made by Cecilio. The differences between the ranges are: quality of fittings, wood selection and type and I believe the varnish (for instance none of the Mendini range are hand varnished with "traditional" oil varnish.) i.e: The lowest in the Cecilio (cvn) range is better than the lowest in the Mendini (mv) range, the "best" in the Cecilio range is better than the "best" in the Mendini range. The best Mendini sounds better than a mid-range Cecilio. The higher up each range you go, the more time is spent on each instrument and the better the workmanship. If you do get a violin by Cecilio, do yourself a favour and change the strings asap, know that there are some horror stories on Amazon and don't bother with instruments lower in either range. Quality control is a weak point in the company more so lower down each of the ranges and even more so in the Mendini range. Don't buy blind (but that is good advice for any and all violins). Also, the bows tend to be enough to get you started on your hacking and not much more. The one Ray bought probably falls near the low-middle of the Cecilio range (I'm too lazy to check). If I was in the market for something in the Cecilio range I would get the cvn-700 and not consider anything any lower than the cvn-600. The cvn-600 is good and I GENUINELY like cvn-700 (and not only for a beginner, this'll take you VERY far on your musical journey), they are underrated as we tend to judge them as part of the overall range which is okay for what it is but definetly not great in the grand scheme of things. In the mendini range an mv500 or mv650 would be it, it sounds okay and actually looks quite pretty (not that it matters ... but it does😊) , I wouldn't stoop lower than that.

@SezoNoho 6 ай бұрын

I don't play the violin but I listen to a lot of classical music. It calms my mind when I'm stressed. I've been listening to you for weeks and I'm still amazed by your performances every time I listen to it

@Anton-ji4td 6 ай бұрын

I agree the Bunnell sounded pretty good , especially for the price and compared to the more expensive models. It would be nice to know what strings they are shipped with, and what you would change them too in a price range.

@tungmiirenefu1869 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your expert analysis of various instruments. It helps me appreciate more the quality of the sound and how it might help young learners ‘warm up’ to the instruments.

@itsverygreen532 6 ай бұрын

You did put the bridges in some rather strange places, it is not uncommon for violins to ship with the bridge out, but it does risk the soundpost moving ... When fitting a bridge, the two small cut "V" marks on the inside of the F holes indicate the position of the centre of the bridge. Stentor Conservatoire sound pretty good when correctly set up. Just moving a bridge 1mm away from the soundpost can have a huge effect on the sound.

@hypotenuse314 6 ай бұрын

Let's all take a minute to appreciate the fact that Ray went and bought all these. That takes guts. 👍👍

@hamzerpanzer 6 ай бұрын

Huh?

@joyceyang6976 6 ай бұрын

I wonder what Ray is going to do with all these violins? 🤣

@V_4_Versace 6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Amazon has free returns lol

@nickiemcnichols5397 5 ай бұрын

@@V_4_Versaceit used to.

@wakingtheworld 6 ай бұрын

Great vid, Ray. For those who don't want to splash out before they commit, cheaper ones have their place though I went the rental route... I remember Brett & Eddy once said that if you can't afford to upgrade your violin, it's better to invest in a decent bow, et violà, these sounded better with yours!

@Melumiii 6 ай бұрын

340 sounded beautiful to my ears honestly, more so than the later violins

@dead3464 5 ай бұрын

Thats the violin i started with,is not the best one but it has a warm sound and is affordable for most of the people,definetely a nice option for begginers.

@unicornabomination 5 ай бұрын

@@dead3464I started with a 120 dollar violin it was second hand but the actual sound was quite nice even for a complete beginner

@mattah_the_original 6 ай бұрын

Il giglio, "the Florence flower" has 5 tips, while the flower on this bow is a french lily, very similar to the Florence lily but it has 3 tips. It also makes sense because bows were mainly made in France

@ErkalEtruria 6 ай бұрын

I love that you actually gave these instruments a good attempt rather than only focusing on how well they were made. It gives us a better understand on how a violin will sound based on the price and the fact that people wanna hear you play terrible violins just because they exist and will make for some fun and interestong content. I am sure you are insulted by these or more so Olaf is. Anyway keep up the good work.

@pgakis 6 ай бұрын

I bought a black $150 CND Vangoa violin off Amazon. It came just hours before an online beginner bootcamp was about to start. Sound post was not in and worse, the E string was just flopping around! Took a while to find the peg in the case. I'm absolutely loving learning the violin so I do wish I had spent more money on a better instrument for the time being, I'll continue with my wimpy little monster for now. 😂

@naytunaungaung3678 6 ай бұрын

the stentor is used Pirastro Tonica which is much louder than D-darrio Prelude string used at most of your testing violins

@ZvikaDror 4 ай бұрын

Loved the video, even though I wasn't planning to buy anything from Amazon this month :) Thanks and keep enjoying music and violins!

@gtiernan1 Ай бұрын

Fantastic! Thanks for the review. I played violin in GRADE SCHOOL, some 50+ years ago. I have recently had a hankering to take it up again. I played piano for many years but stopped that, too. I am on the hunt for a decent violin so I can try to pick it back up again. This video was very inspiring!

@abrokeATM 6 ай бұрын

Raaaaaaaaaay sensei can you please do a video playing with the top 3?2? violins from this amazon haul. I'm very interested to hear how it'll fare playing different pieces!!

@dees3179 6 ай бұрын

I appreciate videos like these because not everyone has physical access to luthiers. And luthiers could sometimes be better communicators about the sort of price ranges they deal in at their specific stores. I’ve had to really push some to find out if it is worth me investing in the cost of travelling to see them. Seriously, what is the point if they carry no stock in my price range. I don’t understand what they think they will achieve beyond possibly upsetting someone who might be a future customer. It’s not like I would suddenly acquire more money on arrival having spent money on travel when I arrive to find everything they stock is over my budget. They say they won’t list inventory on their websites as it changes too frequently….but listing a price range they work with is totally achievable and others do this without drama and are helpful when prospective customers ring up. Thank goodness for this online community of Ray, Olaf etc feeding us more information so we’ve got far more to go on in this instrument buying minefield.

@keithou4389 6 ай бұрын

A Luthier is always the best choice. We have ones that sell intermediate hand crafted and already tuned violins made with true maple and ebony at 173$ and fancier ones at 267$ with the more aesthetically carved ones costing only 439$.

@10data10 6 ай бұрын

I was so happy that you reviewed the Aliyes violin because that is the brand that I bought, however I bought the $69 “designed for beginner” violin with the traditional stain color. I think mine sounds better than yours but I have upgraded the strings, bridge, better bow. I’ve also made some modifications (and I’ve posted a video) that help me to play with my neck issues. I would probably not do that to a more expensive instrument. I think this is a good violin for the first three months of playing and after that a player will want something better or else it just lives in the back of the closet. Often when I’m playing and something is not good I look at this violin and say “I think that was your fault not mine”. But for what I need right now it is fine.

@Idiomatick 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, the cheaper ones with better strings and bridge will probably all be fine. So long as it doesn't have structural problems like bad alignment, or a bad neck it should be fine. Maybe change tuning pegs too if you find it going out quickly. New bow maybe needed depending on your play style

@TeddyOn 3 ай бұрын

Useful content! Thank you Ray for being close to people! You are a great human! Still, wish you would show us some better instruments like up to 1500 - 2000...

@ropedropcrew772 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this vid. You have single handedly inspired me to purchase a violin…not specifically with this video, but with your talent and amazing personality!! I’ll be going with a Davidson Explorer Series. Fingers crossed!!!!!

@Baddiefrfr_ 2 ай бұрын

i love watch9ng these types of videos about other instruments. i think the violin is beautiful even though i play rock music of guitars i rlly love them

@MariaC.09 6 ай бұрын

Stentor is a great instrument to start playing the quality and the price are good. you just have to change the strings to get a warmer sound

@sukumarankalathilparambath1196 6 ай бұрын

My violin was 40 dollars and ive been using it for quite a while. ive also played with it on stage . Even tho it is plywood and starting to bend i love cause we have been on quite a journey

@elliechoi._. 6 ай бұрын

My second cello was from Amazon.. it was $400 and wasn’t good quality. The strings were very terrible. And then the cello had a strange smell (from Eastar). I think the neck was actually breaking 😂. My advice, invest and buy a student instrument. But Ray can still make any violin sound not like trash( like the cheapest one) I guess that’s b/c he is Ray

@user-ie4dn6yp3c 6 ай бұрын

I have never seen a violinist play Canon in D by choice with a smile on their face

@Orchidxraven 5 ай бұрын

The people dancing to Canon at 6:50 absolutely murdered me 😂😂😂😂 I love it

@JosephLyreRecorder Ай бұрын

Then why are you still alive¿ 🤨🤨🤨🤨

@santiago4120 Ай бұрын

I was wondering why his apartment was so bare, then he pulled out that unnecessarily expensive violin and it all made sense.

@AjaxAS Ай бұрын

I don't really play the violin, but like messing around with instruments and restoring here and there, its actually quite easy to find auctions and old shops selling fairly good sounding instruments for basically dirt cheap, got lucky and got a 7/8 scale old German made violin for just 20eur off a local auction, now waiting on strings to arrive and cleaned it up, gave it a bit of TLC and added some suitable oil on the fingerboard and it looks quite good for that, with the original strings sounded pretty decent. Hoping with the cleanup and new non rusty strings it should be pretty good.

@senivan22 6 ай бұрын

I think thats the exact type of violin I got from amazon when started I few years ago, Ricard Bunnel G something, they are decent for beginners.

@crochetqueen12 5 ай бұрын

Watching you play the violins to test them, You can tell he loves music. You can tell he really cares about music. You Play Amazing!!

@Highlander515 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Ray for taking time to make this fun video, I enjoyed watching it and wanted to share some of my own experience with various violin brands that may be of benefit to others. I have been refurbishing used violins as a hobby for the past few years. Here are the top violin brands and models that have great sound quality that I would recommend, in order of increasing set (violin, string, case, bow) prices from low to high: 1. Cremona SV-175/SV-200 ($300ish), 2. Southwest Strings' Klaus Mueller Etude ($400ish), 3. Shar's Franz Hoffmann Concert ($400ish), 4. Shar's Franz Hoffmann Maestro ($500ish), 5. Yamaha V-5 ($900ish). The increase in their prices does seem to correspond to better build quality in general. Avoid Mendini (owned by Cecilio) violins, they seem to not put enough effort in setting up their violins and end up requiring lots of work to make them playable.

@pujiharyanto9996 6 ай бұрын

I saw several review about cecilio and yes many of them said its good cheap violin they have many series violin..then I now now bunnel violin more good then cecilio with price bellow 500$. Thanks for your video..

@KonradTheWizzard 6 ай бұрын

If you still have them: I would love to hear Olaf's opinion about them. Are they well made or will they break in 3 days? Will they be expensive to maintain? Can Olaf get the toy to work? And what does the green one look like inside? Plastic or plywood? Maybe it would be a good home for an Australian hornet?

@matthewdenty8470 3 ай бұрын

I was given a gewa pure as they gave up on it .... I want to glue my bridge on .. 3 tuning stages and it colapsed 3 times before tuned The strings cutting into the bridge I'm ready to make a ebony one and replace whatever the white wood is (I tried hemping the smallest 2 with bagpipe hemp but it dulled the tone ) After playing guitar/bass, banjo,piano,whistles,flutes ,bagpipes and mandolin I thought this be no problem 😅 .. wrong. This is definitely the hardest thing I've picked up ... hurdy gurdy was the other option but after this fretless thing I don't know .

@ElaineFine 4 ай бұрын

I had an experience in the Elderly instrument (mostly guitar and banjo) once where I grabbed a bow (I was waiting while my son was trying banjos) and tried all the cheap instruments on the rack (probably 20). They all sounded good. Some sounded really good. Then I tried them all with another bow, and they all sounded like garbage. Naturally I bought the bow, and it still serves me well. I would love to hear these instruments with the bow that came with the mid-price (lol) instruments here.

@musiqal333 6 ай бұрын

Not fair, I have both the Aliyes and the Cecilio violins from amazon (the acoustic electric version) and I really like them!

@MagisterialVoyager 6 ай бұрын

love the video, ray!

@PotooBurd 2 ай бұрын

Thank you. This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌

@wintersprite 3 ай бұрын

My first violin was a Mendini MV300 (similar to the Celilio, I think). As an adult learning violin, I had wanted something cheap enough that if I accidentally dropped it, it wouldn’t hurt my wallet too much. I wanted to get used to holding it and playing it without having something too expensive that would make me more anxious to handle. My current violin is also under $300 but at least my violin teacher thinks it’s okay/decent. Therefore it must be a true violin.

@ThomasLecoq-bd7qj Ай бұрын

I purchased the Bunnel before seeing this. It had peg holes that were slightly out of round and was untunable. So I took it to a violin maker (very old, very skilled) and had him set it up properly. As a complete beginner, I find it is so much easier to play, sounds even better. He adjusted string height with great precision, repositioned the sound post and adjusted the tailpiece by 2mm. Rebored the peg holes. It was about $200 to have it done, but well worth it. Kennedy Violins makes it, and they have a lot of really great videos online. When interacting with them, I realized everyone there plays the instrument. Not so in our one and only music store. The violin maker played the instrument and said the next step up would be in the 1200 range. Just want people to know about the Bunnel being set up with precision. It came as a surprise to me that the E string should be .35mm above the finger board. It arrived noticeably higher. I did also replace the strings with Tonikas.

@crcomments8509 6 ай бұрын

Many of the Stentor violins have their sound posts glued in place!!!!!!

@ghillies4life 6 ай бұрын

I recommend the Cecilio to my students who aren't sure if they want to play and want to try it out for a few months. It does the job. But if they stick with it after the first 6 months or so, I recommend getting new stuff.

@BestEvaGal 6 ай бұрын

The 2nd violin, $90 1, is gorgeous-looking! 🤩😍

@the1disaster 6 ай бұрын

I play a Stentor! It did not cost that much (even taking into account exchange rates and inflation), and I didn't buy it online, I got it from a music shop, but yeah it sounds exactly like the one you played! Very loud, not the most subtle sound, haha!

@blauespony1013 6 ай бұрын

I bought a used 350 Euro Piccolo from a flute builder, it is really good given the price. So rather buy refurbished than new from amazon.

@nickiemcnichols5397 5 ай бұрын

I got a Bunnel student violin to learn on. I really like it’s tone, and it doesn’t look bad. (It’s not shiny, I don’t like shiny violins,they look cheap). It was used, so the wood is already starting to open up. I’d like a nicer bow than the carbon fiber one that came with it though.

@MagisterialVoyager 6 ай бұрын

editor-san, i see you! great edit!

@jameslewis4059 6 ай бұрын

I've got the Stentor Elyssia Viola. I love it. Rich , deep. It is loud. Quite difficult to really get MP

@hectorquintana5219 27 күн бұрын

Thank you for the review. Are you willing to cover electric violins? The top 8, from the lowest price going up, like you did this clip?

@marioalvarenga5069 6 ай бұрын

Ray, it will be so interesting ir you try some of the violins of Fiddlershop, they have a lot of bench violins and they are becoming so popular in the USA for their high quality instruments!

@pradagio_ 4 ай бұрын

A most helpful video and delightfully done!

@kaistinakemperdahl9667 5 ай бұрын

Interesting how similar that stentor and my first stentor viola are in many aspects. When you mentioned the grain I had to smile. I noticed after a while that the grain on mine is painted on (as far as I can tell, the painted lines follow the natural grain, but it makes me wonder why they did that.)

@stringprodigy3000 4 ай бұрын

Who would’ve thought that Ray reviewing VSOs is what my heart needed today.

@SilasoftheLamb 2 ай бұрын

Hi Ray! New sub!!!! I love the viola and I got 2 for myself and my son! We are guitar players.. I am a season metal guitarist and play in a cinematic metal band called IronWrath! anyways, we have been shopping and I got lucky on a Cecilio... I was really disappointed you got an out-of-lined bridge... Mine seems to be ok but after writing this, I gotta check..LOL .. I am all about investing in our skills as I have nice high-end guitars like Gibson, jackson's, Deans and etc..lol so having a decent violin is not a problem but we don't want to get jacked either.. lol Your video really helped on purchasing that nice entry level viola! Looking forward to listening to your playing! Love it!

@vishvakgurram 6 ай бұрын

I recently bought the Cecilio Violin ($170) for my school orchestra, and I think your review was really helpful! Thank you so much for making this video!