Can You Use QUANTUM Rudders for Space Propulsion?

[@darthpingu429]

The hoverpads were infinitely lifting you up because they were above another block. To hover correctly, the hoverpads need to be the bottom-most blocks.

[@sirlordofderp]

I made a flyer that utilized this, really stable too

[@darthpingu429]

@@sirlordofderp Project STORM did a good tutorial for using this mechanic (which is where I learnt this from)

[@CounterfeitDuck]

New unlock: UFO engine.

[@DeadBread.]

The TM community has named this glitch the UFO engine. It's really useful for super fast aircraft

[@darthpingu429]

@@DeadBread. Yeah, I've used these for really fast dragsters before, but I'm sure better players have utilised it far more than I have.

[@DrVoodoo]

Now I wonder how fast you can make this thing by spacing the "quantum wheels" really far apart

[@ghostraptor2607]

Very, very fast!

[@vale.44peru]

I think the reason this setup, generates movement is because the "rotors" are trying to spin the craft, BUT since every rotor has another rotor countering its rotational movement, essentially instead of completely cancelling it transforms into Linear motion (idk why or how, it makes no sense, but it looks like thats what's happening); so the power of the setup is essentially the Torque generated by the rotor with the craft's CG, the greater the arm from the CG the greater the Torque, more Torque = more power = better Power/Drag ratio = higher speed

[@Elijah1573]

Yeah i figured it was something like that and not actually the quantum rudders I wish he replaced the quantum rudders with normal blocks to test it

[@vale.44peru]

@@Elijah1573 for rotors I meant the whole assembly, like the helicopter motors + the quantum rudders, i'm not saying that the quantum rudders arent doing anything

[@llwestll]

Search up Ward drive that's actually what it is and how it works 👍

[@maurer3d]

10:24 That is the Hoover pad glitch since you have it inside the vehicle it is seeing the piece below and pushing off that instead of the ground.

[@Azi_OS]

Now I want to make a *Space Paddle Boat*! Also, you need the Jetsons Spaceship sound effect for that engine!

[@cenakaze]

I'm guessing the distance has to do with the moment of force generated by the rudders, the further away the greater the torque

[@A_very_bad_youtuber]

Maybe the thruster has something to do too

[@Josoysauce]

The reason that the proximity matters is simply bc they cause drag in space, meaning they're pushing energy to move. The proximity determines how much energy the engines are fighting from each other, which overall effects the top speed

[@llwestll]

​@@Josoysauce no that's not why they need to be far apart, good guess though

[@justarandombird]

And once again Kosmo manages to amaze us with an amazing new form of propulsion and making a ship that would even make RCE proud. 😂

[@nikkiofthevalley]

So the pro is that it has a cool name. The con is that it's slow as hell. Edit: Oh, the speed is dependent on how far the rudders are from each other. Hm. That makes me curious if you can use a piston to throttle it. Something to test once the space update is out, I guess.

[@jionixel1530]

I guess that's tomorrow (October 31st)

[@baileyautryproject4091]

Omg since the quantum drive build Came out we can try this

[@kylewallace9341]

This reminds me more of a tug boat than anything else. Something slow but powerful in order to move larger ships around.

[@darealkosmo]

My friend said the same thing :)

[@llwestll]

​@@darealkosmo you should move the rotors apart the further they are the more speed you get

[@edopronk1303]

The trails look brilliant. There should be an option to let them stay longer. And I want to try to make more patterns that are beautiful like that.

[@KaneyoriHK]

The quantum rudders spinning, though didn't do much, looked really cool

[@BleachWizz]

try also turning them 90º and having 4. then you'd be pushing trough 2 planes in the same direction, might just double the speed or don't change anything.

[@REZZILIENCE]

Can't wait to see what you guys create with more testing. But you could make a cool ship with the spaced out rudders

[@davyzeradaspalmera]

Kosmo, Trailmakers semi-veteran forgets about the so famous UFO Glitch

[@darealkosmo]

omg lol

[@demolition3612]

If you make a logic system that turns off the quantum rudder at certain points in the rotation you can make it so that only the pushing part of the rotation has an active drag inducing quantum rudder, this might improve the speed

[@CobetcknnKolowski]

I knew those trekkies were on to something with their engine setup.

[@katrinabush4284]

Definitely making a KZbin video on the update

[@presidentmichael3349]

This is really interesting. I'm curious if there is a top speed possible for the quantum drive and wonder what spacing from each other they need to be. I also wonder if you could make the quantum drive engine into different shapes. (Triangle, circle, pentagon, hexagon...and get different speeds.) Is rectangular really the best shape? Would love to see a follow up of this where you try more designs and testing.

[@epox_]

It would be cool if we were able to deactivate the rudders. It would be posible to build a space octopus that way

[@jacksonstarky8288]

The light shows created by this experimentation are very interesting... and educational about the function of the quantum rudder. And just before the 7 minute mark, Kosmo builds a quantum elevator (and I don't mean the airplane part).

[@metalburger1117]

Boi, that's mesmerizing, also very funny that an engine with such a name turned out to be slow rather than lightspeed fast xD Also, I'm pretty sure no one in the test branch tried this, so you could say that the Quantum Drive is a Kosmonaut™ original invention

[@EpsilonRosePersonal]

You checked the power, but I wonder if the turn strength would have had any effect.

[@QuillDoodle]

it does not

[@buddysadventuregame1255]

Man the quantum drive made this update 10x cooler

[@1mariomaniac]

I could see that kind of ship being some sort of inter-station transport, some sort of kinda quick way to get from one side of a large space station to another.

[@DemonKing19951]

I really hope you build steamboat style space ship after this. It'd be quite fun to see how fast you can get it going. Also! I'd argue the benefit of the quantum dive would be realistically industrial work. If you want to take inspiration from anything, certain forms of mining equipment actually uses basically legs to move because it's too heavy for wheels. The quantum drive as you describe it does not care about weight, can move both into and out of gravity wells with some easy, and retains a level of controllability thrusters don't provide. So it'd be perfect for something like an asteroid miner once it gains enough speed to catch up to them.

[@7610143]

Kosmo now you have to flip that initial working paddle concept side ways so that instead of going up and down, you are moving forwards and backwards. Then build a space craft around that. Maybe even make a cross of 4 rudders or a stack.

[@houlej19]

The kind of experimentation and engineering I like :) there’s nothing like engineering in a virtual environment on its own physics

[@Solious]

I clicked this purely for the words "quantum drive" being in the title, reminded me of star citizen and got me excited!

[@TheAruruu]

The craft you created would make a great Escape Pod. highly visible trails mean it's easier to spot, and being orange also makes it easier to spot. it can hold a bunch of people like the kind of escape pods you would find on an oil rig (AYO fishing owns one and has camped in it before, if you're interested. it has a diesel motor for propulsion) only thing that would likely need to change to make it an effective escape pod is having the occupant entrance on the back, between the paddle wheels.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Hard not to be curious what would happen if the Quantum Rudders were combined with the No Drag Glitch...

[@Cont_Ray]

There is no drag in space map

[@mihalydozsa2254]

I wonder what would happen if you also try to engage the rudders not just passively rotating them. (if not that was the solution)

[@SirNobleIZH]

The beginning of a revolution

[@dimoichi5841]

I really hope you revisit this concept. If you space them out from side to side, it will vastly increase the top speed of your quantum drive technology.

[@Vessekx]

@Kosmonaut, I think you had the right idea with the first (helicopter) version, but you needed to turn the rudders 90 degrees so the glory part acted as the trailing edge.

[@AaronHochstetler-pu9os]

Design option: the Slave II from Star Wars. It landing with the cockpit looking up, but flys with it looking flat

[@gaster000]

To make the quantum rudder propeller, you'd have to lower the stability stat of the rudders. It's the stat that makes turning with it actually make you turn.

[@Spike_uwu_]

they can be used as additional engines to adjust the position of the spacecraft in space, if they are installed in such a way that they can move in any direction.

[@pneusur]

2:16 this looks incredible

[@blockmg9425]

Now space battle with that propulsion. Is a good idea.

[@Zane12ai]

*Hippity Hoppity, my frends do not watch you, your Tech is now my Property!*

[@AgentWest]

Between the general shape and the forward staircase being used as landing gear... yeah, this is the "we have the Planet Express ship at home"! lol A bit surprised that the two pedal wheel idea worked, it would not have done so under water IRL. My inclanation would have been with pistons and tilting rudders, just use more pistons in a row and use logic blocks for a more precise sequencing. Maybe use servos instead of hinges since they are faster?

[@suicidalbanananana]

Food for thought: A paddlewheel isn't fully submerged in the water, only 1 side is. If it would be fully submerged you wouldn't really go anywhere. It's really bizzare that the craft even moves as-is, i think you should try disabling the quantum rudders when they're not near the center of the 'engine' so that only the quantum rudders that push you forward are enabled.

[@crusader4648]

Are you gonna post the quantum paddle space ship to the workshop?

[@PIGGYboi]

If you put 2 quantum rudders next to each other with servos above and below you can use them as propellers, if you search hyperdrive in the workshop you can see builds with it

[@colekam6443]

maybe you can retry this concept but instead of a big long rescue ship you make a more slim but tall or wide design that has them at opposite ends of the back for propulsion since at the end we found out proximity of the rudders affects them.

[@Caninetag667]

the quatem drive could be used to rescue chiropos in high ionized areas which would interfere with ossterers and maybe this could just ignore emps possibly

[@musdred]

I believe the propeller idea didn't work because the devs said the quantum rudder only works when its facing backwards.

[@theodoric4270]

"'Hey, Kosmo, why would proximity make a difference?' 'Well, I dunno, man, freakin' quantum turbulence, okay?'" 🤣

[@Lucy_Lou2]

So HE invented the quantum drive

[@TheSanguineRaven]

The trail it made looks beautiful

[@GuilhermeSantos-uz8jd]

I think ypu dont need to make it spin, you can just put an even number of quantum rudders with the same input and half of it programmed to pitch the reverse direction to the other half. Just guessing

[@DemonKing19951]

Well yeah but the spinning is cool, but I can see what you mean. If you want to actually minimize the design and use only quantum rudders I'd go with your idea. A set of quantum rudders on the front, back, and a little bit of logic so that they can be used for all directions of momentum.

[@Blaster-the-holobot]

Hey, i just thought of that: the animation that play when you activate the Quantum rudders is pretty much the same thing as your wheels does. Do you think if you just put 2 Quantum Rudders spinning against eachother, it will have the same effect?

[@noelradhakrishnan4423]

Try to add a piston on the servos to make the servos go far apart from the craft, as if a hypersonic mode activates, it would be so Cool, try to add shield generators on the engines too, so when they extend, shields would also extend, it would be amazing!!!

[@kjeldsloot]

You can make a verticle ship with each end this system. So they are spaced out and works good.

[@mikehorrocks2909]

At 6:02: RASENGHAN!!!🤪 Also, perhaps if you changed the orientation of the quantum rudders in the direction for the forward thrust you’ll get a better paddle drive.

[@benfletcher8100]

It’d definitely make a cool little cargo freighter

[@PheonixBlaze01]

You have them in vertical, add some in horizontal as well, Try using the new gyro part in place of the helicopter engine.

[@davyzeradaspalmera]

Kosmo, use an actual propeller design since they work just like wings

[@Lexoniphy]

try going faster than the speed of sound in space then go to a planet with atmosphere while going faster than speed of sound.

[@zombiewolf123]

now you need to setup some logic so the paddles that would give you resistance are turned off for 180 deg, then it probably would not matter how close they are. or you could try having the two on the right both spin in the same direction and the two on the left both spin opposite to the right.

[@zeo1chris]

Reminds me of an old school Shuttle craft from Star Trek :)

[@guardiantko3220]

See, you had the right idea, you need to make a da vinci machine with the rudders

[@XadeGrimm]

It's called brute force thinking the massive reptation of the same thing eventually produces a result that is desired.

[@famillelarrivee-brouillett8187]

4:45 you should add a rotating servo with 0 strenght before the quantum propellor

[@ProjectSTORM-qb4cn]

Whew kosmo, you got reeeeeaaaaal close to something crazy. Thank god bro didn’t find it 😅

[@outandabout259]

If the quantum drive can get up to something like 500-1000 kph without getting too bulky, the instant acceleration and braking could make it excellent for dogfighting. A very controllable and unpredictable aircraft would be rally hard to hit.

[@onerxowns2202]

Secondary Propulsion

[@aynonymos]

Maybe mount the two halves on wings so they can be far away from each other.

[@sirlordofderp]

10:06 I made a ufo utilizing this. It's actually weirdly stablizing to

[@JohnathinVanderHill]

I love it. Would make cool fins for a space whale

[@oko_cha]

this looks like the among-us Dropship. 😂

[@TheChungassSupreme]

Could they work if you lined them up, one in front of the other, with every other paddle wheel spinning in the opposite direction? And if that works would it be possible to make a sort of linear engine spanning the entire hull, in order to minimize bulk?

[@shay5025]

Take this to the next level, Kosmo!

[@bonesciencegaming3863]

Definitely gonna use this when it comes out

[@thesleepingone]

Saw the hinge glitch thing. Wonder about sticking the rudders on the end of the rods.

[@animehair05silently88]

I think irl something like this would be the go to way to just go up, or at least to get things started. I know it takes a lot of sideways speed (something like 17000 miles per hour?) to actually be in orbit, but... maybe you could send an unmanned ship up really really high, then accelerate sideways when you're far enough away that your max speed is a reasonable speed for the periapsis of an orbit with close to the same total energy as the orbit you want, and then you could even adjust the shape of your orbit by using your rudders as rudders, without using rocket fuel?

[@animehair05silently88]

and then especially since it can afford to be slow, you might be able to just get all your power from solar panels except at the very beginning, and since acceleration is affected by mass but top speed isn't i bet you could bring some very heavy loads up into orbit as long as you have enough acceleration left to more than cancel out the weight.

[@lees4416]

The idea is super cool

[@skilledspacepolice6003]

since the top speed is around 60 you could use it as very fancy looking breaks

[@imreborbas9029]

now to break the sound barrier with these :p

[@JETMAN200]

Kosmo the QUANTUM Rudders make drag the less rudders the more speed

[@Baer1990]

5:15 isn't that the "key in 0 gravity effect but poorly reconstructed because it's a videogame with altered physics?" With key I meant T-handle

[@Bees24562]

Thats realy cool looking actually

[@minecatx]

I'm pretty sure the helicopter engines weren't doing anything it was the quantum rudder turn feature I think counteracting itself and going forward

[@minecatx]

I appear to have been mistaken

[@shogun4365]

Do a multiplayer Monday battle with this concept

[@lvdaXD]

now do a space battle with only quantum rudders as propulsion

[@Dudemando1]

StarTrek Build create quantum pylons like the enterprise shape. That way you can also create spacing.

[@redrum_bd1036]

You have hover pads facing the floor of your vehicle, therefore pushing off of your vehicle and lifting you up. It the most basic half of a UFO engine.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

A quantum rudder would work. Just have to use logic or sensor to turn off each rudder at a set point in the arc. Resistance on the forward arc. None on reverse. Switch polarity to reverse

[@Maxwell_Kenway]

Devs be like: give them thrusters to move in Space. Kosmo like: hold my „add favorite drink here“ I‘ll use my own propulsion!👨‍🚀

[@katrinabush4284]

The update releases tomorrow🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊

[@houlej19]

You should try using quantum rotors as wings instead of using mass while making a kind of a plane rotor

[@Konstanpan]

Hey i used ur idea and i just fly 5700 kmh 😂

[@Prisoner4245]

You should make a series where you just make up your own campaign l

[@JanTonovski]

For some reason it reminds me of Thunderbird 1 😂

[@knightbeforedawn]

I have a theory about how quantum rudders work, and I think I can get a modified version of your first/second design working. By turning the rudders sideways and angling them (you may need something for counter rotation or a second opposing rudder wheel. This might fix or reduce your speed issue in your final design).

[@uhohmemebiggestboy212]

Knew it wouldn't be long till someone discovered a hyper drive lol

[@AaronHochstetler-pu9os]

At 19:21 u need to have the template rotate 90 degrees so that it can go horizontally

[@ScottaHemi440]

you've basically made a planet express ship xD atleast function wise.

[@final_catalyst]

Quantum zipper? Better description for how it moves and zip is fast

[@draganaveskovic7231]

I have an idea how you cam make your quantum drive more compact, more efficient and probably better. Just put 2 quantum rudders opposite of each other, and set one of witch to inverse input, and they should counter each other and push your spaceship forward

[@draganaveskovic7231]

how you can is what i ment

[@draganaveskovic7231]

and also one of which

[@ItsSoren87]

Kosmo can you make a I6 or a V12 engine with the longest stroke and the smallest bore? 😊😅 Great vid as always ❤❤

[@Idont_eatcrocs]

That’s an interesting question