Can you use the STEAM DECK as a "REAL" PC?

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The Linux Experiment

The Linux Experiment

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@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
Download Safing's Portmaster, or subscribe to the SPN, and take control of your network traffic: safing.io/portmaster
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I want to do with my steam deck, is do Skyrim modding, I'm not talking about installing mods, I'm talking about creation of mods via using my steam deck. So I hope that the steam deck is capable of this.
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 2 жыл бұрын
I also hope that the steam deck is capable of running programs such as mod organizer 2 using the steam deck to mod your Skyrim or Fallout games.
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway, thank you for creating this video oh, most people are just focusing on the gaming aspect right now as this has come out, and I believe you're the only one so far that I have run into who was willing to cover the stuff outside of the gaming aspects what this device could do.
@devincurrie4145
@devincurrie4145 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a video that discuss about multi monitor setup using docking station and/or USB-HDMI display adapter? Currently I’m using 3 external display monitors setup on my Windows machine and was thinking to add a fourth monitor. Would like to replicate similar setup using the Steam Deck to potentially replace my old workstation. Is it possible to hookup the Steam Deck to 3-4 external display monitors?
@user-jk9zr3sc5h
@user-jk9zr3sc5h Жыл бұрын
portmaster is pretty awesome, and their spn is really cool
@SocialMaster762
@SocialMaster762 2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool. Now all we need is a proper Linux phone that you can use like a Desktop when you plug it in to a screen. Wasn't Canonical doing something like this? I think they called it "Convergence" or something...?
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
There's the pinephone pro for that!
@SocialMaster762
@SocialMaster762 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLinuxEXP This is why I should watch videos all the way to the end before commenting... 😅
@jafd7806
@jafd7806 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLinuxEXP Also the Librem 5 although it's quite expensive
@atemoc
@atemoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@jafd7806 The Librem 5 is a joke and a scam
@DylanMatthewTurner
@DylanMatthewTurner 2 жыл бұрын
Plug in a GSM to the steam deck lol
@kote315
@kote315 2 жыл бұрын
It's really cool when a company gives the user the right to decide how and for what purposes to use the device. I hope that in the future it will be possible to install several operating systems. I'm not interested in Steam Deck as a game console. But I would like to have a small (less than a laptop) portable Linux computer for work and sometimes for entertainment. Almost ideal devices for me (as they usually have a lot of different I / O ports) are netbooks, but they usually have shitty hardware. Tablets with an additional hardware keyboard are also a good option, but they usually run Android (or Windows). Looks like I want Nintendo Switch with Linux! and attachable keyboard! and Apple M1 CPU! Lol! )
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
what's really cool is how it's faster as a Steam Deck then as a windows pc just goes to show how much MicroSoft does not give a fuck about system speed and performance
@dragonandavatarfan8865
@dragonandavatarfan8865 Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 Microshit is more busy trying to spy ur data and shoving all their mandatory pre-packaged softwares in ur face which ironically enough become bloatware slowing down the system even more.
@gwgux
@gwgux 2 жыл бұрын
Basically gone are the days of needing a $2k PC that can handle gaming in addition to the other tasks a PC is used for and you don't even need to buy a Windows license for it! The value and versatility of the Steam Deck just continues to exceed expectations!
@tropicalfruit4571
@tropicalfruit4571 2 жыл бұрын
Considering I don't use my PC for more than gaming, media consumption, and basic workflow I think Steam Deck will be just fine for me. It's not like I'm going to daily drive it as my PC, I just want it to play games in desktop mode, be used to watch something, use the internet, and write a document once in a blue moon. Seems like it can do all of this and more if I REALLY want to so ey, I'm over buying a laptop, I'll just wait for my Steam Deck, buy a 15" screen for some travels when I want to use it as a PC/laptop and it'll be grand.
@piplup10203854
@piplup10203854 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the exact same boat. I work remote using excel and spreadsheets and I’d love to cut down a desk setup. I use my iPad for all my work and that helps but the external monitor output isn’t ideal at all. Steam deck here solves pretty much all my issues because I can take it in a sling backpack and then I’m good. I’m like you with media consumption and basic workflow stuff. I’m a super casual gamer so I’m sure this will be more than sufficient :D
@atiq8987
@atiq8987 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use Microsoft word/excel?
@d2factotum
@d2factotum 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget a mouse/keyboard as well. Something with a trackpad like a Logitech K400 would be ideal, I imagine...
@kamild_
@kamild_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@atiq8987 As far as I'm aware, MS Office runs poorly on Linux, even under Wine. So it's either Linux + LibreOffice, or Windows + MS Office.
@tropicalfruit4571
@tropicalfruit4571 2 жыл бұрын
@@atiq8987 Right now it's pretty non-functional from what I saw, but in the future you should be able to do a dual boot so say you have SteamOS on your main drive and windows on a memory card. If they polish the windows experience you should be able to switch to windows for all your excel and other MS Office needs.
@dario0222
@dario0222 2 жыл бұрын
It's very important to show to non Linux users a lot of features of a Linux OS can do.. great!!
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. It's one more VERY important " tool" to use to show the truth about what Linux CAN do ... Thus if any of those things Linux CAN do..is something a winturd user NEEDS....then that's one less reason the winturd user can say " Well it doesn't work there so I can't use it. I'll have to say with Windows ."
@dylandetaeye
@dylandetaeye 2 жыл бұрын
i like windows and i know linux isn't bad. but i stay on windows on my main pc.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylandetaeye is it because you're fearful of messing up your windows install or any data on that windows drive?
@NuryPPanaligan
@NuryPPanaligan 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoryzen I can do everything on GNU/Linux, except for CAD. AutoCAD isn't working on GNU/Linux. Also all the FOSS CAD Softwares are just awful.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
@@NuryPPanaligan I've never tried CAD software period..so I have no room to talk my there
@lucasdealmeidacarotta3174
@lucasdealmeidacarotta3174 2 жыл бұрын
VSCode running in server mode and accessing it trough a web browser is a pretty good option for coding.
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that works
@5226-p1e
@5226-p1e 2 жыл бұрын
I actually hope I can mod my Skyrim using the creation kit via steam deck. Instead of keyboard and mouse, I would love to create mods on the Fly while using something as comfortable as the steam deck. But I guess the only problem after that that I would run into is, the tools in creation cat would be too small to see and the kit itself would have to be formatted better for the steam deck screen or maybe they Implement some kind of zoom in feature they can be prompted by one of the controls on the Steam deck.
@fritzhopper5145
@fritzhopper5145 2 жыл бұрын
Can it run natively?That would be great
@sasharenee252
@sasharenee252 2 жыл бұрын
or an actual editor
@airy_co
@airy_co 2 жыл бұрын
Even Jetbrains Gateway, I use it daily to edit files on my raspberry pi.
@JamieT1986
@JamieT1986 2 жыл бұрын
The development info was really helpful! I didn't realise it had a read only file system... no one has mentioned that before in any videos I've watched.
@CasinoWoyale
@CasinoWoyale 2 жыл бұрын
You should have watched GamersNexus software review.
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 жыл бұрын
It was a big thing between Linux nerds when it was first announced, but the general consensus was that it's for the best. And I agree.
@kendarr
@kendarr 2 жыл бұрын
@pancake that's not the problem, the problem is when it updates, all of that goes out the window
@shariarrahman7562
@shariarrahman7562 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you, someone who actually knows how to use Linux for a daily driver, made this video. Great points
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
now do it for yourself baby girl🤣
@TheVerrm
@TheVerrm 2 жыл бұрын
This vid made my evening a bit happier. I just got a life-changing bad news which basically might mean I don't get to build my own PC yet for at least next 2 years even though I never owned my own desktop and I already bought case and PSU for that PC... Steam Deck is truly a godsend. So is your channel!
@newstuffnsf5265
@newstuffnsf5265 2 жыл бұрын
This is truly an amazing channel!
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Beryesa.
@Beryesa. 2 жыл бұрын
Development could be much easier if Valve preinstalled distrobox, or toolbx like fedora silverblue. A video on that might be useful. Not sure if it works properly when installed to home root but disabling read-only and only reinstalling this instead of the whole environment you have everytime you get an update, would be much easier.
@sovo1212
@sovo1212 2 жыл бұрын
Valve should've engineered a docking station with a bigger cooler, allowing the Steam Deck to run with a higher TDP (35-45w) while docked. It's still very capable at 15w, but double or triple that would enable a much better 1080p gaming experience, or even 1440p.
@coffee7180
@coffee7180 2 жыл бұрын
1440p is too much lol
@sovo1212
@sovo1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@coffee7180 Not so much, think about esports, older or simply less demanding games. Add to that the ability to use FSR (but to be fair, that's just a fancy way to lower the resolution).
@superpotato657
@superpotato657 2 жыл бұрын
@@coffee7180 i agree a pc with a zen 2 chip wont run at 1440p
@lafan023
@lafan023 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see support for an "pro" dock station that has eGPU support; would require Thunderbolt. Something like a Razor Core X (Chroma one since it has usb hub / ethernet) would be amazing.
@bigbay1159
@bigbay1159 Жыл бұрын
@@sovo1212 1440p yeah no
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic Жыл бұрын
Ever since my W10 laptop died, I've been using the Steam Deck for daily tasks and it actually gets the job done! It's crazy how much power they crammed into such a small device.
@walking_on_earth
@walking_on_earth 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my steam deck with an LTE modem, while streaming music from my steam deck home server, as I get ready to go back home and play games on my steam deck with a monitor and controller.
@berndborte8214
@berndborte8214 2 жыл бұрын
This was very informational. Thank you. I already wondered why everyone was talking about Flathub instead of Pacmn and AUR for installing software. Read-only filesystem explains that.
@UlvicanKahya
@UlvicanKahya 2 жыл бұрын
They probably thought like "Let's not scare the newbies with all that AUR and s#!t lol" 😄
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 жыл бұрын
@@UlvicanKahya More like "if Linus, of all people, managed to uninstall the GUI and display server completely, maybe we shouldn't allow it."
@Olivia-W
@Olivia-W 2 жыл бұрын
@@nodezsh To be fair, during my own first forays into Linux I uninstalled the graphics drivers. I got better, but breaking it is part of the "fun."
@-bazoona3654
@-bazoona3654 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, wonder if someone could make a kde theme and icons for the steam deck
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, yeah!
@feschber
@feschber 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess someone is already doing this
@youtube.user.1234
@youtube.user.1234 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the Steam deck should have its unique theming :)
@mskiptr
@mskiptr 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Valve do it already? 😉
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mskiptr …No. But I'm sure some fan must be figuring something out. A Qt theme, Plasma theme, color scheme, wallpaper maybe (cuz Valve already made some), icon theme, and cursor theme will customize the desktop mode fully. Not that we don't have a bunch of themes already available.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 2 жыл бұрын
I hope drivers will be available for other distributions eventually. It would be great to boot from an external SSD with a full normal desktop environment. That way you can still use Steam OS on the internal storage for your portable entertainment needs. Meanwhile isolating yourself from the fun and keep the desktop installation strictly productivity related.
@cnr_0778
@cnr_0778 2 жыл бұрын
They are already available as far as i know. They're all in the Kernel.
@daverhodus
@daverhodus 2 жыл бұрын
Can you boot Windows from an external SSD? That would be amazing.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 2 жыл бұрын
@@daverhodus I mean, you can. But performance will be worse. I don't understand why people are so keen on Windows. It's like selling your soul to satan. 😂
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 2 жыл бұрын
@@cnr_0778 yeah, but from my understanding it's the absolute latest kernel. Requiring Arch or Manjaro (which is no problem for me personally, Manjaro is my distribution of choice) But it does complicate matter for people wanting to run other distributions so far.
@cnr_0778
@cnr_0778 2 жыл бұрын
@@PixelShade Honestly that's the case for all brand new hardware. If you wan't to take advantage of bleeding edge hardware you need bleeding edge software.
@lalitsilwal1490
@lalitsilwal1490 2 жыл бұрын
About developing on the deck, just install vs code and freedesktop sdks from flathub and enable them from flatseal using env variable "FLATPAK_ENABLE_SDK_EXT=node16,openjdk, etc" and also set the path variable using "PATH=/app/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/sdk/dotnet6/bin: /usr/lib/sdk/openjdk/bin:etc...". This will make the required sdks available inside the vscode terminal. It works great with most of the stack I work with such as python, C/C++, node, java, rust and dotnet.
@oogiedragonus
@oogiedragonus 2 жыл бұрын
I want it because I travel for business. Gaming and potential productivity?! It’s a no brainer. I already rock a 4K monitor with my phone on the go. Sigh. Cheers for those on the waiting list.
@destinyhero4795
@destinyhero4795 2 жыл бұрын
What phone do you use?
@smallworld7
@smallworld7 Жыл бұрын
Just got a Steam Deck today and Ghana and your videos got me so much clarity. thanks man.
@SelGo92
@SelGo92 2 жыл бұрын
Steam Deck caught my eye as being a portable desktop system not only your classic portable game console. This video kinda proves what I was hoping Steam Deck to be. A Linux all around system that can play game as well as being a decent desktop user experience. Have you tried to measure how long does the battery last on desktop mode, you know, working there instead of playing games? I'm kinda curious to see how well could the system work in terms of production. It looks promising on that aspect too.
@KeeeeenW
@KeeeeenW 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's archlinux with a GUI and pre-installed drivers! You can do anything you want with it. I would still prefer using a Mac or Windows PC but if you are just taking Steam Deck to travel with you and need a backup PC. Steam Deck should work great!.
@GotHoai
@GotHoai 2 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely loving desktop mode, was a bit of a learning curve but totally worth it, actually watching and commenting right now on my steam deck on desktop mode
@burglerbox
@burglerbox 2 жыл бұрын
do u still use it im thinkning bout getting it
@zeliph
@zeliph 2 жыл бұрын
If the steam deck was out back in the day when I was in college, I would be using the Steam deck instead of the Nexus 7 for taking notes.
@MrDusuke
@MrDusuke 2 жыл бұрын
Since the beginning I'm waiting for my deck to not only play games but to use it as a portable PC (I already have a mini-pc setup). It totally worth it, the hardware is greater and it's cheaper than other worse mini pcs!
@mlemlemmlemmlem
@mlemlemmlemmlem Жыл бұрын
what's your mini PC setup?
@maxcastro70
@maxcastro70 2 жыл бұрын
Needed this video man thank you so much!!
@peterhammes8321
@peterhammes8321 3 ай бұрын
I got my Deck in 2022 and it has completely replaced my gaming PC, haven't touched it since. It does everything I need except print (gotta figure out how to install cups again, I am not very well versed in the more technical things but google is my friend), and itkeeps my room from heating up in the hot summers. The heating aspect is the main thing for me. 2 years on I am still loving it.
@TheeVenom
@TheeVenom 2 жыл бұрын
really great and interesting video! I feel as though the gaming part was somewhat sped through though. No mention of resolution, performance, or other challenges compared to just using it handheld... I'd assume the biggest issue is the default res on Deck is 1280x800 which is great, but the big issue with connecting it to a screen is you'd normally want to use the native res of said screen.. ie - 1080P. With that in mind i'd assume the performance would drop quite a bit or you'd have to make more sacrifices. Besides that lack of coverage though, I think you really hit all the nails on the head here. What an impressive system! I'm glad Valve has decided to go this way and I'm hoping it has a long and healthy life.
@feschber
@feschber 2 жыл бұрын
I mean gaming was not the point of the video really and most people probably already know what works and what doesn't
@ico277
@ico277 2 жыл бұрын
With the bit of footage of the gaming from the video you can already see it a bit chugging. I can Imagine that it would be playable if you would turn the res down.
@TheeVenom
@TheeVenom 2 жыл бұрын
@@feschber Most of the Deck videos I've seen just focus on the handheld aspect of it and gloss over the computer part. With this being such an indepth video I just hoped for more from the gaming perspective. Still did great with the rest of the information though.
@UlvicanKahya
@UlvicanKahya 2 жыл бұрын
I think with fsr upscaling you can get satisfactory results from it. On my 6 year old not-so-high-spec laptop I play witcher 3 with 1366x768 in-game resolution with fsr upscaling to 1080p and get constant 60 fps with hardly noticeable quality difference. On 1080p in-game res it doesn't go higher then 45 fps even on low settings. Of course my laptop is an 15.6 inch model and on a larger desktop monitor difference would be more noticeable
@qlum
@qlum 2 жыл бұрын
What I really hope for is being able to install my own distro on the deck and simply use the steam de as normal. I just don't like to be stuck on whatever the manufacturer ships, no matter the system.
@miguelguthridge
@miguelguthridge 2 жыл бұрын
From memory Valve are working on this?
@weighedclock9045
@weighedclock9045 2 жыл бұрын
Even if it was a ps4 or xbox
@nodezsh
@nodezsh 2 жыл бұрын
I want that too. I'd probably run some other distro and use a display manager to log in with a password, use Plasma under Wayland instead of X, and log out then back in onto Big Picture mode. The password is a no-compromise thing for me. I'd even encrypt the root partition. I'd just use an USB stick to store the keyfile, like you'd use a regular key for your house or car. [That'd break sleep though. Perhaps not if I log in Big Picture mode, actually. I'd like to figure this out.]
@sligit
@sligit 2 жыл бұрын
Valve have said it'll be possible to boot from the sdcard and while that wouldn't be ideal for performance it ought to still be usable. I'm hoping they'll also support boring from an external ssd as I'm planning to hack together an LCD panel+driver with the guts from a USB c dock, pd power bank, portable keyboard and trackpad into a 3d printed clamshell and basically make a DIY nextdock/mirabook
@sligit
@sligit 2 жыл бұрын
*booting from. Also an SSD, derp.
@WednesdayMan
@WednesdayMan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for someone to create an external attachable keyboard addon for the steam deck, kinda like how windows tablets have a keyboard you can attach to it. (Like a keyboard with an inbuilt steam deck stand)
@averdadeeumaso4003
@averdadeeumaso4003 5 ай бұрын
I second this
@mr.anirbangoswami
@mr.anirbangoswami 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic comment but nonetheless. I felt it when you talked about the meetings. Having recently started work after University, I have two meetings each day, one explaining to my team what I did, and another to a person on the client side. 😂 It's meh at best. Oh my god, setting up the dev environment is soooooo relatable 😂😂😂 Second edit, lol. Yes, I also code AND have meetings inside a VM, coding is still okay, having meetings inside a vm running on a server in another country is a mess on a good day.
@Kongaslam
@Kongaslam 2 жыл бұрын
Audacity always crashed for me and I’d always have to load it back up. My interface had a faulty cable and if it disconnected, I have to restart audacity. I found a better audio program called ocenaudio. It automatically detects the microphone. You don’t have to highlight the entire audio to raise the gain. But it doesn’t have a pause button to put a recording session on hold.
@hotrodhunk7389
@hotrodhunk7389 Жыл бұрын
That would be pretty perfect to get your kid they can game on it and then when they get home plug it in and do their homework at school they could bring a Bluetooth keyboard and take notes.
2 жыл бұрын
Can't you install rootless Docker? It's not the most compatible thing, but if I remember correctly it lives in the user home and runs with user privileges. It probably allows you to eg. run various database engines to develop with.
@sligit
@sligit 2 жыл бұрын
Podman is an option too.
@worldhello1234
@worldhello1234 2 жыл бұрын
@0:09 It is neither 100% PC nor 100% a console. It bridges the gap between consoles and PCs. You can play PC games on the go and have all the benefits of PC gaming, full mod support, free multiplayer, enhanced visuals or frame rate via settings. @3:01 Don't forget to mention that you can upgrade the storage.
@Stbaa77
@Stbaa77 2 жыл бұрын
It uses a PC operating system so no, it is a PC.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this.
@azure315
@azure315 2 жыл бұрын
5:16 I had this problem with FF14 through Lutris, you can create a .desktop file through lutris and add it to steam as a "non-steam game" and it'll handle the controller perfectly
@liamness
@liamness 2 жыл бұрын
I think it could work for portable productivity purposes (e.g. lecture note taking like you mentioned), but you would likely need a usb-c monitor and a bluetooth mouse / keyboard. At that point it might be more practical to just get a cheap chromebook or tablet instead, though, would probably cost about the same.
@tarsem3258
@tarsem3258 Жыл бұрын
can u game on it though?
@liamness
@liamness Жыл бұрын
@@tarsem3258 Not really. I'm not suggesting buying a tablet instead of a Steam Deck though, I'm suggesting buying one instead of all the gubbins you'd need to make a Deck usable for work / study on the go
@TheRetroGamingPrincess
@TheRetroGamingPrincess 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. I did have to flip around to find the answers I needed but you answered every single one.
@dominikwalewski770
@dominikwalewski770 2 жыл бұрын
You can use sudo steamos-readonly disable sudo pacman-key --init sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux holo To be able to write to keyring and get rid of most of the key errors as well as get a full use out of pacman. Hope this helps some devs and power users out there. PS you can use family settings in steam to set a pin for changing settings and accessing desktop mode
@xatusbetazx17
@xatusbetazx17 2 жыл бұрын
There is also portable monitors like small s ones and you can carry that plus a Bluetooth rechargeable keyboard and mouse, and is done plus usb c, and ready to go to use in your work, or what ever you go just remember to pack the charger.
@bluepill8077
@bluepill8077 2 жыл бұрын
Can you link the kind of screen your saying? Thanx
@jimbo-dev
@jimbo-dev 2 жыл бұрын
This video could be used to convince non Linux users that Linux has actually great software tools, such high amount of use cases and apps But I'm still wondering how the SteamDeck would dual boot another Linux distro 🤔
@katech6020
@katech6020 2 жыл бұрын
Dual booting is not supported now since steamOS requires you to reformat the entire drive
@talkysassis
@talkysassis 2 жыл бұрын
@Watcher Maybe SteamOS will complain about corrupted disk space
@Usernameby4539
@Usernameby4539 2 жыл бұрын
@Watcher there are ways to install windows on linux with dual boot - create empty partition before install and in windows install say “here is your place, dog” and done, in order to work with grub, just update config. It is that simple. To be honest for me now is simpler to install windows second, since deleted it many time after installing it “if needed” xd
@liamness
@liamness 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how easy it would be to run another distro inside a container / vm for development purposes. Pull in whatever dependencies you need without affecting the stability of the host OS. Kind of similar to how Chrome OS and Windows support Linux-based development. edit-ah this is covered in the video at 9:10 and the answer seems to be, very easy.
@Usernameby4539
@Usernameby4539 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamness now dual boot on steam deck does not work at all, I just mentioned how it works in linux and most likely will work on steam deck
@GeoNeilUK
@GeoNeilUK 2 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that you can't download from the Arch repos or the AUR? Just Flatpak and AppImage?
@jan_harald
@jan_harald 2 жыл бұрын
for a moment I thought it was LTT's thumbnail, lol but also, I like the dual-mode devices, like how you can use some phones are sorta-desktop-ish thing, too (limited mostly by their OS)
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. It is really great, that the gaming console is not FORCED to be only for gaming, but for other productivities as well. Thanks for the video!
@leonoliveira8652
@leonoliveira8652 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, why didn't I ever heard about your channel before??? Do you have anything on Raspberry Pis? I'm getting some extra cables soon to try and use the raspberry on my streams, either as a source of content, or as a second pc taking care of the streaming. I've moved from windows for at least two years now. I know not all things are as easy, but the performance and freedom it all brings are on another level.
@233kosta
@233kosta Жыл бұрын
It works a treat as a substitute for my laptop. I'm easily doing stuff that MacOS has scuppered. A couple of utilities weren't available as flatpaks, so I considered unlocking the OS image so I can use pacman, but the pre-compiled executables I got off the gh pages work a treat. Couple aliases in .bashrc and we're good to go. The .bashrc file lives in your home directory, so it survives OS updates. This is now my preferred way of getting non-flatpak packages for the deck. Another option is setting up an install script to run after every update. I'd have it automatically unlock and then lock the OS image too though, it's one of the few means of keeping your system secure.
@averdadeeumaso4003
@averdadeeumaso4003 5 ай бұрын
Yep I was thinking on install scripts, or something like Timeshift or SyncThing to get everything back after an update
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 ай бұрын
@@averdadeeumaso4003 I like to keep it as simple as possible (hence shell scripts), so then it has the fewest possible dependencies. If you depend on some other software that for whatever reason becomes unavailable, you're SOL as soon as that happens. Same reason I avoid hardware-level encryption of archives. If the hardware lets the smoke out, you could well lose the key, depending on how it's stored.
@roberttony001
@roberttony001 2 жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of home computing. The nothing stuff, emails, chat, shopping and streaming and a tiny amount of use of something like Libre Office. Until the deck comes out with connection to a big screen TV, can I do my Sunday online grocery shop in bed, do some email contacts and well accessing a bluray drive and hdisk drive, for streaming stored content, are the real questions. So the real question can I wander from the lounge room with it's connection to that dock and TV to the bedroom and switch to that dock and it's TV. I have a high end PC and the applications run, realistically, Firefox, Thunderbird, Libre Office, Handbrake, VLC, Notepad++, Irfanview and a bunch of annoying game launchers, so many users, use so few applications in reality and I am a retired computer geek, so few apps. For me it will replace things like Nvidia Shield TV and so much more advanced than a TV streamer, so it is all about getting the absolute most out of a big screen TV. How much do people spend on accessories to those, how much hardware does the Steam Deck and Dock replace and turns any big screen TV into a full featured PC, as you wander around those house linking to different decks and TVs. I would continue to play games on the toy operating system Windows but sometimes I might play in bed on the big screen and order some takeaway delivered via Firefox. Try demoing streaming Netflix et al. Steam Deck and Dock, not a hand held gaming console, they are the essential big screen TV accessory.
@balcofono666
@balcofono666 Жыл бұрын
now with distrobox support, even the immutable filesystem is not a problem anymore, Steam Deck is a great machine, super happy to have bought one!
@slim_cana
@slim_cana 2 жыл бұрын
You answered all my questions, great video! Im a ROS kernel dev and I'm looking into using the deck as my daily driver. We'll see how much of a pain setting up a dev environment will be! Cheers
@slim_cana
@slim_cana Жыл бұрын
I didn't get around to changing the SSD, so I don't use it for work, but it has indeed become my daily driver for everything else!
@vihagchaturvedi6172
@vihagchaturvedi6172 2 жыл бұрын
What isn't mentioned, is the fact that Screen Sharing Audio DOES NOT WORK for Discord on Flatpak (I assume other electron clients too?), although it is possible to get it working, it is definitely not an easy task.
@iodreamify
@iodreamify 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the Deck will serve as a catalyst for the issues flatpak apps still have
@hansmatos2504
@hansmatos2504 2 жыл бұрын
it works on discord native or snap though :(
@RandomYouTubeUser-5
@RandomYouTubeUser-5 2 жыл бұрын
You can prob use flatseal to change the perms and allow discord to have microphone access.
@DienerNoUta
@DienerNoUta Жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the few videos out there that actually good and made by someone who understand and use linux
@emporioxorton
@emporioxorton 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering the development part. I was really hoping we'd be able to have full access to install dev tools & docker. :/
@averdadeeumaso4003
@averdadeeumaso4003 5 ай бұрын
You can unlock the OS and do it, then put install scripts, SyncThing or TimeShift to restore everything if needing to update and recovering everything after an update
@uncommonamerican
@uncommonamerican 2 жыл бұрын
I knew this video would come .... Next can you use your smart toaster as your daily driver ?
@uncommonamerican
@uncommonamerican 2 жыл бұрын
Look I took the smart toaster used a micro adapter to add pci express put a 1080 Ti upgraded the ram dropped arch on the onboard flash put a 3000 Watt power supply so i can toast and hack at the same time
@ego-lay_atman-bay
@ego-lay_atman-bay Жыл бұрын
What about developing games for the steam deck on the steam deck?
@speedflam
@speedflam 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to install packages using Pacman you can use Ansible to automate the process (it doesn't require installation as far as I know). Ansible will allow you to "fix" your SteamDeck automatically after every update. Not sure if Toolbox from Fedora Silverblue is working with the Deck but if yes it could be a very powerful resource for development !
@Dim.inished
@Dim.inished Жыл бұрын
Me small brain windows monkey man. Use smaller words please
@mskiptr
@mskiptr 2 жыл бұрын
Can you disable automatic OS updates and do them via the usual `pacman -Syu`? Also, if you make /usr writable, then what happens to the other /usr? I mean, since the steam deck uses A/B partitions, then manually installing something will surely only install it to the currently mounted filesystem. The other one is gonna stay intact, right? Can you accidentally boot into the wrong (older) one?
@ilya_mzp
@ilya_mzp 2 жыл бұрын
Systemd containers are an option. They're like chroot, but allow a lot more. You can pass gpu acceleration and audio, there are guides on reddit about it.
@jantube358
@jantube358 2 жыл бұрын
I think over time more and more people will use the desktop mode. For many people this is the first "cool" Linux. Continue to make videos about the Deck as a PC! Is it already possible to use Microsoft Office and Adobe Photoshop on Steam OS? Maybe over that Wine or something like that?
@Faruq-xn4gj
@Faruq-xn4gj 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than laptop, Steam Deck is more like portable PC or makeshift laptop if you have keyboard trackpad combo.
@devincurrie4145
@devincurrie4145 Жыл бұрын
Love the Steam Deck! I have four external monitors connected and it works great as a general purpose workstation. Of course there are some Windows software that I still need to use, which I will deal with eventually on the Deck.
@aldozampatti
@aldozampatti 2 жыл бұрын
Nick... Can you plug more than one external display? If i can use two 1080p displays, I'd be ready to replace my work/daily computer and I'd happily do so with this amazing console
@kkppelot6270
@kkppelot6270 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, find a USB c to hdmi that has 2 hdmi ports
@vicca4671
@vicca4671 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, can you do a video on the usage of other linuxes on deck? I'm really interested in trying something like Fedora on it if I ever get a deck.
@littleBIGrobots
@littleBIGrobots 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I wrote about and did videos on using one piece of hardware to do everything from -- I got on a Chromebook kick back then, Netbooks before that. I can't wait to get my Steamdeck to try it like that.
@matthewsjardine
@matthewsjardine 2 жыл бұрын
I am not really a gamer and unlikely to get a Steam Deck, but I was waiting for someone to make this video.
@PhilipDudley3
@PhilipDudley3 2 жыл бұрын
Watching in Firefox, and seeing him click a Firefox menu and I was like "wtf, what is this wizardy, quit clicking my buttons!"
@kevinbreen4510
@kevinbreen4510 2 жыл бұрын
It would be sweet to get a mini pc with the same hardware. Or better yet an actual laptop.
@Henk717
@Henk717 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it would make even more sense to just dualboot something if someone is this into using it as a desktop, i am sure a distribution like Manjaro can just be installed alongside SteamOS in a nice dual boot configuration. Then you can have a desktop mode much better than desktop mode.
@MintMacelodeon
@MintMacelodeon Жыл бұрын
Now a cool niche thing could be if you could plug the SD into a PC and share the software processes between them. Ex. Discord running on steam deck or having the steam deck record the main screen, etc. Could turn into a content monster with this. Idea being youre taking that pressure off of your gaming rig and allows for a complete ecosystem. You can have one, or the other, or both at the same time! I guess it would work the reverse kind of situation if you had a ultrabook alongside the steam deck. Basically I want a 2 way steam link through cable lol.
@joseph2500
@joseph2500 2 жыл бұрын
Being a windows user for the past and present, one thing is assuring when it comes to switching to linux based systems: you can still use most of your office applications because they're in the cloud now accessible through a navigator. I don't need to install office word
@ozrencupac
@ozrencupac 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the kde menus icon not the same size as all of the other icons And why are the system indicators such a mess It triggers me so badly
@TheLinuxEXP
@TheLinuxEXP 2 жыл бұрын
Theres some scaling going on, I think
@thanielxj11
@thanielxj11 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video. My computer recently died and I was considering replacing it with a steam deck but I didn't know until now if it was feasible.
@jmelz155
@jmelz155 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a PC so when I got my Deck, it was on. I have a bluetooth M&K and I love it. I was going to get a laptop but I'm very satisfied with this
@Waitwhat469
@Waitwhat469 2 жыл бұрын
another package option could be using guix and to use containers instead of VMs (save some cycles since they are little more light weight).
@Ayush_Bob
@Ayush_Bob 2 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine the no of kid's showing this video to their parents to convince them that they need steam deck for school work
@SilverHusky
@SilverHusky 2 жыл бұрын
For 'As a laptop', have you looked into nexdock? It's a laptop monitor used with android, effectively a laptop shell. It'd be interesting if it works with the Steam Deck.
@AdamWarner
@AdamWarner 2 жыл бұрын
It should work, but I don't think it would be very practical. The NexDock comes with an 18 PD Charger, and they don't make clear exactly how much is passed through to the device.
@The_Mup
@The_Mup 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until I get my Steam deck "After Q3". Hopefully that's before the heat death of the universe
@leoryzap
@leoryzap 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, thanks
@btudrus
@btudrus 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to install a normal linux distribution or is the bootloader locked?
@PeppyTrotl
@PeppyTrotl 2 жыл бұрын
How about chroot? cannot you connect to host os display and run guest os with apps in chroot? that way you would keep the data after system update if there is partition that does not get deleted..
@pratikshanmalakar4605
@pratikshanmalakar4605 Жыл бұрын
Just curious about the performance after using it like a daily driver pc for ms office, web browsing , media consumption, light photo/video editing..should i expect a drop in performance overtime ? Lags in games? Or the performance would be smooth.
@Minimal2798
@Minimal2798 2 жыл бұрын
feels like this is the future of PC. Imagine having a Steam Deck and NReal glasses. You'll be able to use this as a super portal PC. Even more portable than a laptop.
@TheFeri
@TheFeri 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna do that either way... once I get mine after Q3... Anyway... the only thing I'm still not sure about is that cheat engine can work or not. Or is there any alternatives that can use the same pre-made tables?
@igorgiuseppe1862
@igorgiuseppe1862 2 жыл бұрын
i'm considering picking an steam deck as my next pc, but i will have to figure out an way to install android studio on it, without using the developer mode (so i dont have to reinstalll it everytime steamOS updates) i dont use android studio itself, but i need the build tools to configure godot to export for android =p
@mohammadebrahimi5017
@mohammadebrahimi5017 2 жыл бұрын
Can we prevent battery failure due to long-term use while charging?
@tato-chip7612
@tato-chip7612 2 жыл бұрын
although i highly doubt it. If steam deck comes with podman you can easily use distrobox to set up a dev environment
@UlvicanKahya
@UlvicanKahya 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if there are enough demand podman can be installable as a flatpak runtime. Most people don't realize it but flatpak can also be used for distributing libraries, background daemons and cli applications as "flatpak runtimes".
@davidpaskevic4276
@davidpaskevic4276 2 жыл бұрын
As long as user namespaces are enabled in the kernel it should be possible to simply download the podman binary and run it in rootless mode.
@randerins
@randerins 9 ай бұрын
Great video, bud! When it comes to handheld PC's, I assume that a Windows running device would be more compatible for software development. I think that's a real game changer when it comes to productivity
@hksduhksdu
@hksduhksdu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips. But if the system locks down in read-only mode, then when we use GIMP or any local application cannot save files too?
@Cobinja
@Cobinja 2 жыл бұрын
2:59 "Expected order availability: After Q3 2022" - Wow
@drolingink
@drolingink 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good positive energy! I never say stuff like that, I don't even care about stuff like that, but this guy... Wow!
@idcrafter-cgi
@idcrafter-cgi 2 жыл бұрын
audiotube is a quite nice yt music client made with QT
@prettysheddy
@prettysheddy 2 жыл бұрын
Does SMB or Samba work on Steam Deck. I have a NAS and would like to be able to access the files on my network drives.
@BankruptPizza
@BankruptPizza 2 жыл бұрын
I Really want it BUT unfortunately i'm in Libya and the LYD (Libyan Dinar) is useless in steam because its not accepted and (For now) Its not possible to apply for a Credit card in Libya. Also, There is no way for valve to ship it unless they sell the steam deck in Turkey or Tunisia . Also, I LOVE your videos man Keep up the good work. EDIT: Sorry for getting political, I didn't mean to. I'm just frustrated at not getting access to cool things in the world for the simple fact that i LIVE in Libya
@BankruptPizza
@BankruptPizza 2 жыл бұрын
@Kame There is a Local ISP called Libya Telecom and Technology. In my case, a 200 GB fiber subscription costs 100 LYD. Also, Thank you for your offer BUT i dont feel confident in sending you money because of Pirates occasionally raiding the harbor.
@BankruptPizza
@BankruptPizza 2 жыл бұрын
@Kame Thank you SO much for your help. Hopefully, ONE day.
@RonnieNissan
@RonnieNissan 2 жыл бұрын
They should have just used Fedora silverblue (Kinoite) instead of a read only arch linux. Then you could install toolbox with rpm-ostree and have dev environments inside the toolbox containers.
@squadramunter
@squadramunter 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 Well Steam OS comes with a Read-Only image out of the box. This does not mean you are not allowed to write into this read only image. You can disable read only mode with "sudo steamos-readonly disable" Keep in mind to enable read only mode after you make changes to the image because when something updates unexpectedly your image might got broken or things might not work as expected. So when there is need to install some more programs that does not come with discover you can. Just be careful with things you want to install.
@sligit
@sligit 2 жыл бұрын
You will lose your changes when Steam OS updates though
@ItaAndyOfficial
@ItaAndyOfficial Жыл бұрын
I've known of people that have their ps5 and pc's collecting dust since they had their steam deck. I've installed windows 11 on my steam deck and it's amazing. Money well spent!
@Trusteft
@Trusteft Жыл бұрын
What's the grey keyboard in your video? It looks nice.
@derram0k
@derram0k 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm just trying to think up ways to use rsync to create my own "update server" to automatically reproduce changes between official updates. Since the home folder isn't being overridden, some kinda mirrored app manifest might even be good enough.
@sligit
@sligit 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking about using Ansible
@geraldonunez1183
@geraldonunez1183 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my deck a few days ago and i love it!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰. My games run very well on this device plus they look amazing. Playing elden ring on the go is a dream come true. I just ordered the JSAUX dock. Can't wait to start using this thing on docked mode. I never used Linux before. Can't wait to start learning how to use Linux plus the different commands.
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