Can Zenless Zone Zero Kill Wuthering Waves? | HexJuice Reacts

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[@ginaidoma5925]

Call it Triple Z.😊

[@vasto.lorde.2809]

Imo WuWa will keep breaking the top in gatcha games it`s just so damn good

[@2205Razors]

I am actually more of the opinion that people might leave Genshin for ZZZ...

[@BladeSerph]

Considering visual wise, zzz is way better then any previous mihoyo game, that’s definitely the case. Plus since it’s likely the first title fully freed from the ‘honkai’ nostalgia constant re’use’ outside of maybe the name of one place matching star rails, I don’t recall it having any proper saber face syndrome going on. Maybe that soldier 111 character and the one welfare character looking a bit like Kiana look a like’s but if it doesn’t fade away into obscurity, it could likely be the first mihoyo game in such a long while that doesn’t bank on its previous mythos from previous titles to nostalgia bait constantly. Even genshiTE impact suffers this because it put in shogun raiden ‘Mei’, Nahida and several other characters who are a bit too similar to a number of honkai impact 3rd characters.

[@Giorneau]

@@BladeSerph I kinda feel like Genshin is already the least impressive Hoyo game visually, since HI3 got its engine upgrade. If ZZZ has a good story to support the great visuals, i'm seeing a lot of people playing ZZZ instead of GI

[@nonofirerose]

​@@Giorneau yea, Genshin at this point needs a visual/engine overhaul to stay relevant at this point.

[@Satyr42]

@@BladeSerph I'm not sure if HSR actually has better graphics than Genshin, but I do find it much more visually appealing in every single aspect. Characters, enemy designs, environments, special effects etc. all look better in my opinion.

[@hitsunataraki2587]

That's cope coming from a genshin haters

[@LorenGlasio]

I never understood why they put ZZZ against Withering Waves. The only thing they may have in common is a comprehensive combat system, but that’s all. Not the core mechanics, not the concept, not the world building itself is not even comparable. Based on this, ZZZ's direct competitors are PGR and HI3, so why don't people compare them?

[@cakegood]

Because those games are less popular on the global side and won't get them as much views if they was WW vs ZZZ Like you said it's a stupid comparison because the games have nothing in common. If people leave for ZZZ, who cares? They're the minority that won't outweigh the ones who will stay and play. Half of them are f2ps so what did WW really lose..

[@terrencetang6684]

I think most of them actually pro-hoyo players against wuwa (they even didn't know pgr)

[@haruusami1831]

New release and people are mostly pitting ZZZ with WuWa in terms of combat which is fair because that's one main core of the gameplay of both games. If ZZZ was not a arpg but different then people wouldn't probably pit ZZZ on WuWa that much, rather people would be arguing who has the best waifu designs etc.

[@haruusami1831]

@@terrencetang6684 Both sides are loud but the hoyo stans are the loudest trying to justify etc how good hoyo games are compare to Kurogames. In terms of combat Kurogame takes the crown, if i want to NSFW i go genshin end of the story lel.

[@arghahimel816]

​@@haruusami1831NSFW lmao, and yet hoyo shills claim their game is less sexualized. When it's actually the censorship that ruins everything.

[@devilkazumi578]

If anything zzz will probably piss genshin players off even more if hoyoverse gives them better treatment just like honkai

[@eumeliaria7081]

And I’ll be right there with my popcorn; watching it with a shit-eating grin on my face if it happen. Lol

[@baby_bean5751]

Ha true

[@HazardTone]

Already saw players on their live comment section spamming Genshin could never lmao

[@hxppythxughts7149]

Another civil war in hoyoverse it seems

[@mantisonmoon983]

It's been mihoyo tradition for new game player go to war against their older game, I since player on Chinese fourm attack each since honkai 2 and 3days 😂

[@OwnageMancer]

If some people end up liking ZZZ more than WuWa, good for them. Don’t really care for sides, because everyone wins in an arms race like this one. I’m gonna pass on ZZZ though. Don’t like the character designs, and that’s a bare minimum for me. No waifus, no hype.

[@O_Kay12-]

Most normal comment so far.

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

no waifus ? I thought that Nicole and Grace were waifus lol

[@O_Kay12-]

@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp preference is a thing an apparently for now all the characters released didn't hit that spot which is fine.

[@terrencetang6684]

As an azur lane player, the level of zzz character designs really not above my minimum standard

[@sweetsbwrry]

Damn calling the designs ugly lol 💀 I think every game character has a beautiful design

[@rpamungkas13]

Nicole size is smaller than Changli, so by that metrics I 100% sure it wouldnt.

[@Matsmellwood]

Nicole currently has better R34….having just looked for research purposes >_>. Not looked into ZZZ as a game though 🤨

[@O_Kay12-]

*sips coffe*

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

@@Matsmellwood Hoyo games are more popular so we get great porn. That's all that matter to me as someone who won't touch any of their game anymore.

[@GaIIeon]

@@MatsmellwoodBremerton has even better R34. And she is the original to Nicole

[@ThisIsPampkin]

@@GaIIeon Nicole = discount Bremerton.

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

I wouldn’t use the adverb “extremely” to state how casual WuWa is. At best, that’s Genshin. I think that we should break this dichotomy in which games are divided into hardcore or casual and recognize the existence of Midcore Games ( games that are neither casual nor hardcore ). I think WuWa can be categorized as a midcore game, as a player won’t be able to clear the entire game by playing strictly casually ( that also includes part of the open world, as you can find Red Mobs that can one-shot you if you just go Unga Bunga on them with a half baked team ), but, at the same time, the content isn’t so difficult to require extremely high skills or extensive playtime to be cleared.

[@why7654]

ZZZ would probably be a big gacha game like the other hoyo games but i think wuwa would also stay big

[@thesoffen48]

I understand that CC's have to milk the "this game will kill this game" and "everyone is going to quit this game for this one" content, but honestly, can you not play more than one game?

[@SageRuffin]

You'll be surprised how many people weren't interested in in video games until Genshin or HSR dropped. So no, they can't, because they're not typical gamers.

[@chokking5703]

zzz is an easy pass for me, i already grew to dislike genshin little bit "cartoony" design and then they crank that up to 11, nicole aint even that hot, but changli tho. definitely changli

[@HazardTone]

You saw changli cutscene fight with the Fractsidus? Her smile at the end.. uwwoogghh seegggss 😂😂

[@iamjustice1995]

I also love how they all have a different body types. Taoqi being a little bit chubby surprised me.

[@lunosse9886]

Instead of improving our existing games, especially Gensht, lets release another game 🗣🗣🗣

[@cakegood]

When you fan base eats your shit and defends your shit whenever it's criticized while still making bank what do they need to improve? They're still making bank while releasing filler characters with trash kits I'm assuming until Nathan The newest character is so bad they're purring her in "Dehyra tier" and saying she should be a 4* but she's a limited 5 star LOL

[@tsukiri_masho]

The way I see genshin is basically like pokemon. You know whatever it puts out, it will sell. So no need to fix their game

[@arghahimel816]

And donate less than 1% to a nuclear project to just justify their scam 🗣️

[@poooooya6369]

​@arghahimel816 ahh yes how about you donate. they don't need to donate yet they did. and ur here talking shit saying they are scamming. you need a life. do you expect they donate 20% or 10%. it just don't make sense

[@arghahimel816]

@@poooooya6369 If I had filthy money like hoyo has billions of dollars just from a game which they don't even care for now, I would've actually donated. I'm not trashing them for donating, it's actually great that they used the money for something great even if it's 0.1% other than gobbling it up like they always do. And they needed to make the game that they made billions from better if they actually claim themselves as a gaming company. There's provider consumer feedback in any gaming or irl product which genshin has none. Totally disconnected and ignoring players on purpose. When you take players money and don't give them even the basic stuff in game that they want, that's called scam. Also telling other to get a life is a hard projection, especially when you're in yt comments

[@johanseth3277]

No Genshin players who aren't shills will transfer to ZZZ WuWa will just stay good for a very long time Glad competition is becoming a reality from this predatory genre

[@zealgaming8161]

And a bunch of other interesting games on the horizon too.

[@arghahimel816]

The monopoly has to end, azure promila and many other titles incoming

[@hitsunataraki2587]

Wuwa will be gone when azur promilia release just like tof lll

[@johanseth3277]

@@hitsunataraki2587 not be gone they'll just be fine TOF was a disaster But I'm glad more competition cause we shouldn't accept a predatory genre like gacha games be monopolized

[@lsnexus2080]

@@hitsunataraki2587 nope it will be fine. players came in wuwa for gameplay/combat and characters. Azur promilia is another promising game. would rather keep HSR Wuwa and Azur promilia(if its a good game).

[@Aaronebohol678]

New game, old game No content, more content It doesn't matter. Just play.

[@absolutelyabsolute4671]

I doubt, ZZZ will garner it's own fanbase, be it mihoyo stans or new people. Personally, I'm not into street style. EDIT: Since a lot of genshin players are yearning for more complex combat, I can see some leaving genshin for ZZZ"

[@martipan51]

Tbh not gonna touch a hoyo game while the weapon banners have 50/50

[@Raven3557]

Why not play both? Like you can't play Wuthering Waves or ZZZ 24/7, there's not enough to do

[@depressoexpresso8469]

True that, when you have nothing to do play other, easy as that

[@Reiswalt]

In my case I just don't want to support MiHoYo anymore as someone who played Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail from launch I've grown tired of their bullsh*t and how much they don't care about us. Even with changes in Genshin Impact they prioritize listening to the chinese audience. At the end of the day they only care about themselves, everything they do is for PR to get your money even this free pulls they're giving out is only to pretend like they care but after all these they will go back to their Default Setting of f*cking you in the *ss.

[@pravum3150]

​@@ReiswaltThis, I just don't want to support Hoyo as a company, or associate myself with their audience, especially the unsavory ones.

[@RelTheD.OSimp69]

@@Reiswalt Um... do you even play Honkai Star Rail? You can accumulate up to 200-300 warps in the first week of playing, get a free standard five star at the beginning of the game, receive a limited free character Dr. Ratio (if you played from patches 1.6 to 2.1). To top it off, he's one of the best DPS's in the game, and I don't see how HSR can profit from doing this selfless move; they did it off of pure generosity. It can indeed be considered a strategic business move to get people pulling for Aventurine or Dr. Ratio's lightcone, but it was still a bountiful deed which benefitted F2P players. Dr Ratio is still in the meta without any five star supports or five star lightcones. I can list tons more-- them allowing you to buy five star lightcones using in-game currency (stemming from the Stimulated Universe content, and countless other events). Come again? Sure, you can hate genshin but hating on HSR just because it comes from the same company is... petty? Anyway, I beg that you guys stop spreading misinfo about HSR just because it comes from Hoyoverse lmao

[@rubyirin2725]

@@Reiswalt Do you even play Honkai Star Rail? You can accumulate up to 200-300 warps in the first week of playing, get a free standard five star at the beginning of the game, receive a limited free character Dr. Ratio (if you played from patches 1.6 to 2.1). To top it off, he's one of the best DPS's in the game, and I don't see how HSR can profit from doing this selfless move; they did it off of pure generosity. It can indeed be considered a strategic business move to get people pulling for Aventurine or Dr. Ratio's lightcone, but it was still a generous deed which benefitted F2P players. Well, you actually don't even need Aventurine or Ratio's limited lightcone, he's still in the meta with 4 star supports and lightcones. To add on, they let you buy five star lightcones using in-game currency (stemming from the Stimulated Universe content, and countless other events). Come again? Sure, you can hate genshin but hating on HSR just because it comes from the same company is kinda petty.

[@redrovaeden5143]

Hot take: I think you can still play Wuwa and ZZZ without dropping one or the other. Time is but an illusion, if you get bored of one or ran out of content, you can simply play the other.

[@hexjuice]

yes, i also said this

[@GrimAsythes]

I'll be honest, Nicole hits the right buttons for me so I'm trying the game. Going to wait add see how it plays out

[@HazardTone]

True imma play it too since Im really a sucker for fast paced action game PGR Wuwa and ZZZ will hit that spot. But let's not forget a lot of players are also tired from MiHoYo and their scam tactics Genshin is one of the biggest scams in the histoy 50/50 character banner 25/75 weapon banner. HSR has 50/50, 75/25 but the powercreeping are also out of this world. Now let's see what ZZZ scam has to offer. 😂

[@GrimAsythes]

@HazardTone Dude FR I am day one player for HSR and lately MOC has been fucken cracked. Enemies are just getting stupid amount of HP and Characters like acheron started the spike of powercreep

[@kawaiillenn3666]

They scare of Wuthering Waves. We should thank to kuro! If have no them. You never have even 10 pulls, let alone 100 pulls. Based kuro!

[@jayrobinaspiras5756]

if the zzz same producer from genshin i wont play.. that guy to damn greedy

[@j4nk3n]

People getting threatened over video game opinions just shows you some people have never faced a real problem to where THIS is what sends them, truly a smooth brain way to go....

[@fizzy_gutz]

I don’t think I have it in me for ANOTHER gacha game ! I’ll just stick to WuWa and Genshin. Not enough time in my day to pump hours into gachas

[@lsnexus2080]

you can actually try another game like ZZZ. if it ends up being better and more fun, you can simply leave genshin or wuwa.

[@ghostoff2740]

Why can't people play multiple games at once? It's just so weird to me

[@ghost-chan402]

Not enough time + lack of storage edit: also, Art style preferences

[@arghahimel816]

+ who said they aren't, these videos are for people who are comparing. People who're playing both don't give a shit.

[@lumear9533]

For Wuthering Waves End Game we have Tower of Adversity Hologram Dept of Illusive Realm I see people recommend to add world boss fight. For me I recommend they do something similar to GBF Relink where 3 player fight a boss. They may have to add a revive feature because people would not bring healer. Aside from that I don’t have any idea for other End Game mode.

[@neithankei]

I felt like the person who managed GI is also in ZZZ since they changed the character designs.

[@depressoexpresso8469]

I believe they are

[@Hasieur]

cai haoyu?????

[@Hasieur]

if cai haoyu is in charge of zzz dont even think about of freebies

[@krisanthonymiranda1713]

The rival of ZZZ is HI3, Aether Gazer and PGR

[@zamirroa]

PGR being the hard one in terms of gameplay and hard combat. Aether gazer in fanservice and HI3 i guess in combos and story.

[@botcchidotcchi]

I play those 3 and imo that genre is dead. I'm not sure if ZZZ can make that genre shine again

[@HazardTone]

​@@botcchidotcchithe genre is not dead lol it just has a niche playerbase since a lot of people are casuals and hate to be sweaty playing the game. Not to mention the devs in these games are the closest to their community.

[@Zero_Li24]

PGR is already dead tho, they had only averaged 2 viewership this week.

[@HazardTone]

@@Zero_Li24 viewership doesn't count the game is dying a lot of groups are still active about PGR and majority of them are whales especially in China

[@winsach220]

The truth is that WuWa saved us from the monopoly cage that hoyoverse wanted to create, with GI, HSR and 💤 SINCE SEVERAL GI members were already tired and those from GI who went to HSR and those from HSR were waiting for Genshin to improve (it never happened), And WuWa came in before 💤 to decompress those who were fed up, and others who were looking for another open world game similar to genshin or a greater difficulty. From my point of view ZZZ only exists to complete a BUSINESS strategy and move the community wherever they please, are they going to say no when I say that I'm putting Genshin to sleep on purpose because of the departure of HSR? If WuWa took any longer, they would surely put Genshin to bed again and begin to slow down with content on hsr due to the departure of ZZZ and thus manipulate the community once again. Thanks Kuro❤️

[@O_Kay12-]

I wouldn't say WuWa saved us since WuWa A.K.A. Kuro saw how successful this strategy is, so they definitely hoped on instead of "saving us". So what's happening now because we are getting more games like this, we will now have more options to be scuffed by companies.

[@arghahimel816]

🎯 this is spot on.

[@damianxi4133]

Mihoyo never had a monopoly in the gacha game. There are plenty of better gacha games then what mihoyo can produce but genshin is alot of people's first gacha due to covid and alot of people arn't willing to give other gacha a chance because either time or money.

[@bestly2745]

idk how I feel about ZZZ, love the UI, the environment, and the theme. but im not a fan of their characters design, and I draw the line on furry characters lmao

[@ilovealmondtofu4726]

Senseless Snore Sero is so mid🥱💤

[@feugoherbert]

it's impossible to split a player base since this two games was a different genre

[@silvastone1691]

Funny enough one of the main reasons I'm going to try it is because it's coming out on console. If it wasn't I wasn't going to go out of my way to try and play it like I did for Wuwa.

[@TerkoizRHG]

Did they even fix anything about the TV mode? i watched the stream and they're mention nothing about it so im confused

[@cakegood]

Nope, it's still there. They just created a mode without it.

[@TerkoizRHG]

​@@cakegood Damn

[@dev1lykt14]

they did. it more less now, and it plays faster. for what i know majority of TVs stacked in beginning of company, and then u rarely see them. and as mentioned they added plenty modes without TVs

[@TerkoizRHG]

@@dev1lykt14 So they're reducing the Roguelite?

[@dev1lykt14]

@@TerkoizRHG for what i see, is that its still here as separate mode like SU in Star Rail, and in terms of TVs it seems more condenced. not like in company

[@LyenWorks]

As long as there is good End Game in ZZZ. That's all I want.😂

[@adult_nubian]

Wuwa CB1: Ass, colourless, trash story etc. Wuwa upon release: updated combat, decent story that ramps up, immerrsive but hella grindy even with the hiccups good game overall. ZZZ CBT1: TVsssss asss, less combat etc. Wanna guess what's gonna happen upon ZZZ release? It'll do good. The CB1 of games are never indicitive of the final product. The game, like wuwa will cater to its demographic and do extremely well in that regard. Lol why do peeps like putting gatcha games against each other?

[@ManuXnanu]

Grinded out content for Wuwa? Switch to Zzz. Grinded out Zzz content? Back to Wuwa. One game doesn’t kill the other we gamers got more similar options now. Doesn’t even matter which one we like more.

[@Ruryjp]

the wuwa killer lool

[@TheOnceandFutureGeek]

ZZZ looks like if Persona and the Neptunia games had a lovechild. It's a very specific aesthetic that I think will have a hard time finding a WIDE audience, but for the people that really like that kind of style/game, they will probably love it

[@markleebatiquin9179]

I know that ZZZ has 100 pulls & 80 pulls on weapons, but my question is, are you gonna get what you want on 100 pulls 😅

[@HazardTone]

Still gonna play ZZZ either way. I like action games better than Turn Based Do Dailis for Wuwa then Dailies for ZZZ after that grind hard on events in PGR. Uninstalled HSR cuz powercreeping killed my mood to play.

[@ScorchedAce94]

I got a ZZZ Ad on your Video, that's a W in my 📖

[@thebrigade7684]

Wuwa did just put out a very serviceable story with the new area which was pretty important because it's something outside of act 6 in 1.0 it lacked.

[@AnnR8214]

1.1 story is actually really good though. Some people rate it 8/10 as for me its 9/10.

[@Hasieur]

​@AnnR8214 1.1 for me is an entire movie in those cutscene ngl

[@mariasubaru7758]

This is for the people reading the comments: just give it a shot. Experience it 1st hand. If you end up liking it good for you. If you don’t enjoy the game there’s always the option of quitting. If you’re a hoyo hater… you can scroll down now. And no i’m not defending the game or hoyo, i don’t even play any hoyo games as of now. Genshin? 85:15 story to game play ratio? It’s like pre covid BDO 90% riding horse 10% actual combat (Hear me out i play a game to “play” a game not to bore myself reading texts.. my preference. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying stories. you do you, champ). Hsr? I stopped playing months ago(good game, good story, fun game mode until it’s not[it’s like eating your fav food ex spaghetti, it’s good, but if you eat it every meal every day for a month or more, you’ll get sick of it]). Sorry for poking fun at your favorite game(s). I’m just trying to be silly.. is all. :)

[@xChicKenStew]

I play casual...and if people want to try hard they can. Its very friendly to all player styles

[@mr.mc.doesntexist7693]

I'm not very interested in ZZZ because for some reason their character models...feels plastic(?) idk. I just don't vibe with it. Definitely still trying it but I'm just too occupied with other gachas rn (especiqlly since I'm getting addicted to fgo again...)

[@yellow_kirby64]

Plus, all the females have a big case of Babyface

[@11-buiminhduy56]

But to be fair, the game has a very big and much much more active playerbase in CN so it's probably fine. If its flops in global, CN market will carry the game to the top easily. That's just my opinion.

[@alvinjohnsp2156]

I mean, you can literally play both of the games without quitting one. In the end, you'd just be doing your dailies haha

[@stuartpatterson5094]

I just pulled Jinhsi so I will be sticking to WuWa

[@user-eo2db5il3x]

So many Kuroshills about to face the reality in a few days.

[@Blankybabe]

yeah , that zzz sucks

[@jarethpalmer8672]

Lol since when have open world games and fighting type games ever competed for space. That's like saying a new MMO will kill an RTS.

[@liwuwu2166]

@@Blankybabewuwa has an ass launch when you see zzz running smoothly it’ll be whip lash

[@Blankybabe]

@@liwuwu2166 I see pgr running smoothly

[@Hasieur]

​@liwuwu2166 it running smoothly doesnt make the game good or not

[@AlIguana]

"we won't have content" = i finished 1.1 in two days, including 90% exploration and all the windchimes. so.. yeah..

[@araash0]

Wuw 1 vs 3 What perfect game

[@xChicKenStew]

Just play both?

[@ljunljun6354]

at first i plan to main the 3 mihoyo game (genshin, hsr, zzz) then after wuwa, i changed my mind and will main open world games (genshin, wuwa, and that azur new game)

[@jarethpalmer8672]

What's the azur game that's coming. I love open world games.

[@depressoexpresso8469]

​@@jarethpalmer8672azur promilia I believe

[@Silverstreamable]

bruh ZZZ is basically wuwa with skill issue

[@jmbrady1]

Zenless is Vindictus meets Honkai Star Rail

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

I always divide into two. One where i put most of my time and effort which are usually the open world games since it needs exploring (played genshin) and one for casual gaming anytime anywhere (pgr for me). And pgr has been my casual game even till now. Like i can leave for months and go back online before a patch i like and still farm enough to pull. Meanwhile i been switching from genshin to hsr and now WuWa. Probably will stick to WuWa cuz combat is fun, exploration ain't a hassle and the rewards from playing are good. Zzz will probably be alongside pgr for me.

[@Just_Dawn12]

ZZZ is giving very much comic, modern technology, and streetstyle vibes, which really is not my vibe but I think if people can handle playing both or decide to leave WuWa for it then good for them, we should just let people live and enjoy the things they like.

[@LazeC014]

12:58 I don't know if I'm in a different part of the community or something but I see more Genshin players saying that they might not try ZZZ. I see more people talking about who will they pull between Jinshi or Changli and not much on the topic of ZZZ. The other gacha community (like FGO, AK, BA) pretty much doesn't talk other games outside their community anyway but in Genshin community, I see more post talking about ZZZ wether to play it or not.

[@SomeRandomDude12542]

I think ZZZ and WuWa are games that can be played simultaneously, so I doubt many people will leave WuWa for the sake of playing ZZZ.

[@romeopiston8211]

All the combat aspects of action games originate from fighting games : parry, blocks, special moves, and so on). Without the Street fighter game , there's no combat as we know it in Genshin, wuthering waves, dark soul or else. So any player from any gacha game may be interested in ZZZ, wuthering waves players included. And I'd say that ZZZ may interest more players beyond the current gacha space, players from fighting games, souls games or players liking more punk anime aesthetic. I don't know if ZZZ wil be a hit, but I wouldn't bet anything against it. The concept is solid.

[@hkhboof4908]

ZZZ seems like Hoyo's version of PGR and WuWa is Kuro's version of Genshin.

[@LockedOnTargetShow]

Hoyo's version of PGR already exists, its called Honkai Impact 3rd. PGR was made because Kuro thought they could do HI3 better and they did but after about a year of updates.

[@hkhboof4908]

​ @LockedOnTargetShow Agreed. But I think they probably wanted to make a new version to attract new players. Because those who never played HI3 will most probably not start now. By creating ZZZ they can compete with PGR by adding more features to it like what WuWa did to Genshin. That's just my opinion though.

[@Lecliss-om1zx]

Trying out Mr. Pokke outro? Interesting.

[@hexjuice]

HUH WHICH PART

[@DanaOtken]

I don't see the games really competing at all. They have pretty different play loops and aren't providing the same things.

[@OldManInternet]

I'm not sure exactly what it is about it, but I couldn't be less hyped for ZZZ. I think it's just a theme/vibe thing, and they're just targeting a younger demographic or something. But I find it more obnoxious than funny or cool, and I can't imagine a scenario where I really get into it. I'll just stick to HSR & WuWa for gacha stuff.

[@kenny10188]

I don't see a reason other than slight clickbait to compare WuWa vs ZZZ. ZZZ is more akin to a fresh start to a Honkai Impact "copy", for lack of a better word. HI3 has been out for so long and the new player overload is definitely a major factor in whether they commit or quit. One look at the current character lineup is probably the most discouraging. I've been playing it for years, but it was only the most recent boss of the current main story that had a bunch of very cool and unique mechanics that I've been used to from PGR. It's on par with Hamlet. I was very surprised and it's a great leap in the right direction. Idk if it's because of WuWa's hype around release, but whatever it was, I want more of these creative bosses from Hoyo. I fucking HATE their damage sponge boss designs!

[@Hanabis924]

it'll definitely "kill" Wuwa in CN/JP because it'll actually work and play on mobile and PS5

[@The_Rum]

Nah. if CN can whale then there's no reason for them to have a good phone to run WW or any game to begin with. Iphone is dominant in JP. Iphone has no problem playing WW. If anything, Its the SEA players that will transfer to ZZZ.

[@Hanabis924]

@@The_Rum the issue is they are not spending. 1.1 sales are abysmal in Japan and China

[@The_Rum]

@@Hanabis924 you cant just claim something without a source.

[@Hanabis924]

@@The_Rum easily searched on bilibili (CN) or game-i (JP).. if you are a Chinese national you can log into QIMAI

[@seancouger007]

I'm sorry didn't the devs of wuthering waves purposely move back dates to literary let ZZZ have a chance and not to overlaps them?... ZZZ isnt a wuthering waves killer not by far (hoyoverse need to worry more about wuthering waves making as much as genshin impact in one month more so than ZZZ)..its interesting but there's something i feel like its missing like the CC said..it's not giving me that i gotta rush to play it vibes.....u know that feeling when u get something or make a dinner and there's that one important ingredient that missing ..the food is good but even ur taste buds notice something missing...that's what ZZZ feels to me

[@gemthemage]

Doesn't the little guy sound like hex? Or is it just me

[@brulckgui]

I love wuwa and ill stay with ww

[@rudy2538]

Nah, kuro has my heart

[@skyMcWeeds]

unlikely different kind of games ZZZ and WuWa audience won't exactly mix

[@Byrvurra]

As someone who has played both, I will make it simple. No they will not, lol.

[@shinzo7166]

Zzz is like hi3 so i think it will be like 1 hour play and log off

[@dracul1838]

will XXXX kill Zenless Zone Zero?......will YYYY kill XXXX?

[@lemonsquishy197]

Technically zzz is a better comparison to PGR, which compares to hi3rd so if anything, zzz is best compared to its predecessor but hey, if everything we did was meaningful, there would be no click bait amirite? Xd

[@NeginoSora]

this girl kuro purist for sure. agreeing to zzz = hi3rd reskin 💀💀💀

[@hexjuice]

U RIGHT, it's a PGR copy really

[@cogumancer]

most ppl are influenced by streamers... i rlly think that zzz is a bad game to stream and watch.. but feels nice to play

[@ardee9337]

You know I believe that eventually there will be a limit on how hard Hoyo's name can carry a game, that said July would be fun as we would see how well WuWa did against Genshin this month, and August would be crazier as WuWa would have by then gone 1v2 with Genshin and ZZZ. But what would be funnier is that if both WuWa and ZZZ do pretty well, to a point better than Genshin then I'm sure Genshin fans would lose it as they are currently going toe to toe with WuWa while other Hoyo games are kicking them in the balls lmao

[@jarethpalmer8672]

I could see zzz maybe beating genshin for July as 4.8 will likely be a low spending patch and zzz will get the boost every gatcha gets for its opening week, I think it's unlikely though. I think WuWa will do slightly worse than this month since bp and the new packs that are decent value will mostly have been bought by low spenders already.

[@Reiswalt]

ZZZ Livestream just said that their main focus is "Combat" and high level "Difficulty". So stop saying it's a Casual they clearly said it's meant to be hardcore. And they didn't even show the TV Labyrith Stages (they were too embarassed) also that Time Slow on perfect dodge is like 8 seconds and the Guard Break state of bosses are like 30 whole seconds like wtf how is that "high level difficulty" this game is made for kids!

[@hexjuice]

you had me in the first half i'm not gonna lie... that combat looked like flashy baby games... "hardcore" where... "difficulty" where... "satisfying" where...

[@Hasieur]

high level difficulty.... all i see in cbt is spongebob hp hoss 😔💔

[@Cytryz]

I’ll be playing Genshin, HSR, Wuwa, and now ZZZ. I definitely for see sticking with Genshin and HSR for the long run. Wuwa is too early to tell, they look promising but it’s still only 1.1. Howver that said with the first 10-15 minutes into the story of wuwa it looks good in that the new char introduced is very likeable and makes the story enjoyable which was something SEVERELY lacking in that game.

[@jesserodgers3759]

zzz doesnt have honkai in its name so it will get neglected by hoyomother as its not the favorite child

[@zamirroa]

Depends of what people want. I think the ones dropping are who has reached the limit of gachas they can play and liked more ZZZ. Anyway both games are different, in my case i already play PGR, Wuwa and HRS and since i am more inclined to fast combat, i will drop HRS in favor of ZZZ. There is not game that can replace PGR for me yet.

[@jarethpalmer8672]

This is me though it's WuWa genshin and arknights and zzz doesn't come close to interesting me

[@HazardTone]

Sad to say no game in the gacha genre can come close to PGR combat.

[@zamirroa]

@@HazardTone Yes, for now their type of combat is very nice.

[@Lyfja21]

My issue with ZZZ is that for me offers nothing different. Genshin, HSR and WuWa all have their strenghts and they focus on that. ZZZ is trying to be an "everything" game.

[@riotangel4701]

The art style looks fabulous but the game play... the TVs put me off so much.

[@VERAfy]

Just like it's name, I'll be sleeping on it. Not my type.

[@tibtib6550]

Idk why people say that people quit wuwa for zzz It's a bad take since zzz is a ultra casual game

[@lyleholland2803]

Zzz looks more like a PGR competitor lol

[@AnnR8214]

And honkai impact😆

[@Flam3blast]

God it's always murder another game for the new game :D All games are fine , have fun people stop trying to do a murder on fun

[@Lunathean]

The comment that Wuthering Waves is "hard" is a bit of a misunderstanding. First and foremost, you can't really have these Dark Souls-type games on a mobile device. Sure, there are people who have found ways to be insanely good-some would argue even better than controller or keyboard/mouse users-at titles like Call of Duty Mobile. In fact, mobile pros can sometimes outshine modern Call of Duty pros. The concept here is simple: phone games can't be excessively hard because people wouldn’t be able to complete them on their phones! Imagine if the developers of Wuthering Waves announced that they made a piece of content only completable on a desktop or laptop-people would be up in arms. Lastly, it's worth noting that some people might find it hard simply because they’re used to Genshin Impact, a game designed for a younger demographic and intentionally made easy (they’ve explicitly stated they won't add difficult content).

[@agunkorea2995]

Zzz will rise and clear ww, if ww keep their bug and zzz launch is minim bug 🤭 Also, dont forget azure promilia, ww in danger 🤭

[@verner3600]

They are not even in the same competition.

[@SOULlTe]

I barely have time to play WuWa so im definitely not looking to play zzz. The capcom collab may change my opinion tho. It just depends on what it is.

[@GaIIeon]

As a Fighting Game player, i don’t see the similarities to Zensored Zone Zero

[@enriquechiles]

So do people still not understand that people play this game on mobile because not everyone has a PC or laptop

[@enriquechiles]

Because I have been and it's been running fine

[@sadiejohn7753]

ZZZ recycled HI3rd Mihoyo being cost efficient

[@DocJN]

ZZZ looks mid to PGR in terms of combat but would try the game if its good for me

[@O_Kay12-]

It wasn't that bad that the person deserve death threats and kys messages, but it definitely had terrible statements. I think and know that there will be definitely some players quitting WuWa to play ZZZ it can happen and it happens to a lot of games it's hilarious how the emphasis is only on Hoyo and Kuro games for now soon AzurProm DNA ProMugen.

[@pathfinderz1139]

18:35 in my case its the other side. i was going to play it or at least try it. but when i heared its a hoyo game. nope. fk that

[@hnfnamia6605]

Even if zzz is better, i wont ever start playing another game from hoyoverse

[@RipVonGraves]

The only reason this absurd rivalry started is conflicting marketing. Hoyo just making another cash grab for their Stans. ZZZ is a step back from mobile gaming progress, while WUWA is trying to make a BETTER version of hoyo’s BEST game.