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Canadian Studebaker Mystery

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Steve Magnante

Steve Magnante

Күн бұрын

Steve examines a Canadian-built Studebaker Cruiser sedan. If Studebaker closed its American factory in 1963, why did it keep building cars in Canada through 1966? Was it to avoid a class action lawsuit? Watch and see.

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@googleusergp
@googleusergp 9 ай бұрын
As noted by others, Studebaker didn't "move" to Canada, they were already there and production was shifted after South Bend closed. This appears to be a 1964 or 1965 with the four headlight system as 1966 would bring single headlights. The V8 engine used was straight from the GM parts bin, a 283 V8 that Chevrolet used in its models. Looks like code 6419 Bermuda Brown exterior paint. With that said, hopefully Mr. Magnante is back in business again soon.
@marygott66
@marygott66 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a mopar guy myself but I just bought 19 64 Studebaker With a 289 Studebaker V8 I'm smiling from ear to ear
@davidjohnmiller4849
@davidjohnmiller4849 2 жыл бұрын
Studebaker didn’t move to Canada in 1963 .... Studebaker built cars in Hamilton Ontario Canada from 1947 ( until the plant closed in 1966 ) . As I was born and raised in Hamilton I know all about them .
@harnettsgarage
@harnettsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Hamilton, Ontario. I work about 4 blocks from the old Studebaker factory location, now the Stubebaker industrial park. I know the man that announced to the world that the world they were closing in 66. Stu Chapman, he was VP of Public Relations and Advertising. He wrote a book called " My father the car, it goes into different ventures that Studebaker was into, and continued on after car production ended." It's a pretty interesting book if you can find it. He's still around, along with a few others that probably assembled parts of my 66. Another way to tell a Canadian Studebaker is by all of them having white steering wheels and a small piece of stainless trim to protect the dash from cigarette burns above the ash tray. 65-66 Studes still retained the Borg-Warner 3 speed automatics that were used behind the Stude engines, with slight differences to the V8 model, such as a TV cable instead of a rod/linkage set up. They never used power glides, they got the gm to borg-warner pieces from Checker to made them work with the GM engines.
@chrisbarker3965
@chrisbarker3965 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Hamilton too my grandfather worked in that plant till 1966
@harnettsgarage
@harnettsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbarker3965 That's awesome, I know the guy that either helped install my headliner, or my dashboard. My 66 Cruiser was built in December of 65, and he transitioned to dashboard installation at some point that month. He did install the dash in the very last car.
@nathandwyer7273
@nathandwyer7273 2 жыл бұрын
Several years ago, I picked up a copy of Track and Traffic magazine from 1966. Track and Traffic was Canada's leading automotive magazine throughout the 1960s. Most notable about the issue, was a very professionally photographed and designed full colour multi page brochure for the 1966 Studebaker lineup. Saddle-stitched (stapled) into the centre spread. If Studebaker was trying to get out of the car business, this flashy (and expensive to design/print/insert) brochure, seemed to reflect otherwise!
@harnettsgarage
@harnettsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathandwyer7273 I have that issue, along with one about the 66 Daytona that was supposed to go in the Shell rally in 66. I also have the one with the 66 Cruiser test drive, it also has the 66 Charger test drive in it. Kinda cool, my boss has a 66 Charger and I have the 66 Cruiser
@nathandwyer7273
@nathandwyer7273 2 жыл бұрын
@@harnettsgarage That is very cool! Congratulations! Studebaker Canada was awarded the Track and Traffic 'Golden Wheel Award' in 1964, for Car of the Year. Same year the Mustang and GTO were introduced. lol There may have been some payola going on between Studebaker Canada and Track and Traffic.
@hugieflhr03
@hugieflhr03 2 жыл бұрын
That steering linkage looks like a geometry project that went wrong!
@raymondpetrovits2336
@raymondpetrovits2336 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t talk that fast or think that fast. I am a lifelong Mopar fan and really enjoy Steve rattle of the information for us to absorb slowly. Just saw you at Barrett Jackson pointing out even more facts. I love it.
@chevdad1566
@chevdad1566 2 жыл бұрын
Heck, I'm a Chevy guy but I love hearing him break down these cars by the numbers.
@tomtheplummer7322
@tomtheplummer7322 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm 🤔. I usually play him back at 1.25 or 1.5x speeds.
@tedhewitson823
@tedhewitson823 2 жыл бұрын
I know we're the very last car off Hamilton line was in guelph area. It was a 4dr 230 chev 6 cyl with Studebaker sticker on valve cover. Similar boxy car as this one. It was so rotted away and scrapped 25 years ago. I should have kept the engine and valve cover
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 2 жыл бұрын
He’s pretty hilariously out of his element talking about GMs (Fords, probably, too? Dunno, don’t know about Fords). He’s a Chrysler genius, and has forgotten more than I’ll probably ever know about those cars like my big cousin (hardcore Mopar guy, specifically RoadRunners and Magnums/Miradas). He makes a lot of mistakes about GMs (maybe because he simply doesn’t like or care about them), but he remains a WEALTH of automotive historical knowledge. I’d love for Steve to find himself under the tutelage of Leno before it’s over, he’d be a valuable asset to that section of Leno’s automotive historical stewardship. He’d probably tune all those old big Chryslers up just a SMIDGE hotter than factory, too, haha!
@pauldollak994
@pauldollak994 2 жыл бұрын
He is completely wrong about the history of Studebaker in Canada, sorry to say.
@talfacprez
@talfacprez 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at a used car lot and chose a 1966 Studebaker with a 283 V8 3 on the tree as my demo. I loved it!
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 2 жыл бұрын
This channel should have million subs. Steve is an encyclopedia of old american cars. So much knowledge
@dannytomen5512
@dannytomen5512 2 жыл бұрын
This video brings back a lot of memories for me. My Father had the Studebaker dealership in Chatham, ON. Thank you Steve for all the info.
@DScaglione.
@DScaglione. 2 жыл бұрын
The Funk & Wagnals of the American Automotive Industry! You’re the Man Steve! God Bless 😎
@christopherbero3388
@christopherbero3388 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back in the yard…🚙
@paullee2777
@paullee2777 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy when Steve is in the junkyard, with spring coming I look forward to seeing more.
@hamishdavidson3368
@hamishdavidson3368 2 жыл бұрын
The Ontario plant sent build kits RHD to Melbourne Australia from 62-68. Studebaker Cruisers were also purchased by the Victorian State Police Force.
@ZIPCORD
@ZIPCORD 2 жыл бұрын
As someone already mentioned Studebaker didn't "go" to Canada, they were already there. The reason they CONTINUED there is stated correctly. '64 cars still had the Studebaker engines. Correct, the '65 and '66 Studebakers got the GM (McKinnon) inline 6 and the 283 "Chevy" engines. While easily changed the late Canadian cars had white wheels and steering wheels. The transmission wasn't a Powerglide, rather the Borg Warner cast iron 3 speed (considered a very strong transmission similar to the Ford FMX). The bellhousing to adapt this transmission to the GM (McKinnon) engine was already in use by Checker - of taxi cab fame. Search You Tube for "Studebaker - The Plain Brown Wrapper" and Goodwood Saint Mary's Trophy. The PBR car is a supercharged Studebaker and the SMT car dices the twisty course with Britain's best sedans. I have an odd find for So. Cal.. A '64 Canadian built (originally Studebaker engine) Daytona with the McKinnon engine swap sometime in its life. Currently it has a 350 Corvette engine and a 700R4.
@5610winston
@5610winston 2 жыл бұрын
The last Studebaker off the line in Hamilton in 1966 was a Wagonaire, a remarkably practical station wagon designed by Brooks Stevens and introduced in 1962 as a '63 model. That car was equipped with the 230 cube McKinnon engine available as an option in 1966. The last Stude assembled was a knock-down kit that had been shipped to a Kaiser assembly plant in Israel. Those interested in Studebakers at the drag strip should also check out Ted Harbit's "Stude Tomato" and "Chicken Hawk" drag cars. Word of caution, though, there will probably be some unintended references when you look up the last car mentioned. Harbit raced a '51 Commander Starlight for many years, with various Studebaker running gear combinations; the car was totaled in a 1/8 mile drag event when an oil line to one of the turbos burst, spraying lubricant on the rear wheels.
@kevinwong6588
@kevinwong6588 Жыл бұрын
Early '65s have white steering wheels, black later in the year.
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@Dragonballguy270 2 жыл бұрын
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@danielcarroll5667 2 жыл бұрын
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@automatedelectronics6062
@automatedelectronics6062 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the 1964 U.S. Studebakers I've seen had Studebaker-made V-8's, including the Avanti's with R-1, 2, 3 & 4 V-8's. Maybe it was the R5 V-8 which had been increased in size from 289 to 304 cubic inches. They also had twin Paxton superchargers. Paxton was Andy Granitelli's company and he is the one who talked Studebaker into using his Paxton supercharger. That supercharger was the basis for the Vortech centrifugal, an improved unit designed by former Paxton engineer, Jim Middlebrook. One of Studebaker's most famous and successful semi-non-automotive ventures was Onan. Their power generators and gasoline engines are legendary. I remember working on Bobcats which had Onan engines in them and they had labels "a division of Studebaker".
@randycaulkins3644
@randycaulkins3644 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Worked with several ex-Studebaker guys at Bendix in S. Bend. Lotsa time out at the old Studebaker proving grounds via Bendix as well.
@Nowherenotime
@Nowherenotime 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve I worked at Dofasco ( now Arcelor Mittal Dofasco )in Hamilton and the Studebaker Plant was on the property . It was just an empty shell . Torn down in the early 2000s . Also on the property was the old CIL Paint Plant that probably supplied them and other car manufacturers in the Province. Paint and other solvents could be seen in basement sump pump holes leaching out . That building was our Trade School for apprentices for many years . Now it is gone and a State of the art Steel Caster sits over it . Fun Fact
@harnettsgarage
@harnettsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
It was torn down in 2012, they let the Hamilton and Ontario chapters of the Studebaker clubs into the grounds with our cars while they were working on tearing out the interior of the building.
@hoo-t
@hoo-t 2 жыл бұрын
My parents helped me buy my first car in 1974 when I was 14 years old. It was a 1966 Studebaker Daytona 2 door Sport Sedan. Now, I suppose its possible the transmission could have been swapped out, but the car was only 8 years old at the time. It had a 283 and a 2 speed automatic in it.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 2 жыл бұрын
That transmission probably WAS a three speed, but Studebaker designed the valve body so it would start in second gear. A lot of people think the transmissions are two speeds, but if you floor it or start out in low it will start in first gear.
@SPH56
@SPH56 2 жыл бұрын
I like your enthusiams for Studebaker, yet Larks' debut was a '59 model. True, Studebaker ceased production in Dec '63, yet the Hamilton Plant in Canada was opened by Studebaker in 1947 producing automobiles and trucks. And as for using those wheels on Mopars...I would'nt - they may fit, but for aggresive diving habits, there are much better choices out there.
@garyslentzii2796
@garyslentzii2796 2 жыл бұрын
Love Roadkills Junkyard Gold TV show Steve, it runs all day on Wednesday 3/16 on Motortrend for anyone wanting to see more of this. I hope you do more model videos when it's rainy outside or just for us. You Rock Mags! 💚✌🏼👍🏻🇺🇲
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 2 жыл бұрын
Man that car still restorable! It would make a great sleeper!👌😎👍great history Steve!
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 2 жыл бұрын
Google the Plain Brown Wrapper.
@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective Жыл бұрын
Looks very similar, including color (ours was a metallic brown), to the 1964 Cruiser our family had here in Australia, where Studebakers were assembled from Canadian CKD kits for the RHD market. Ours had the 259 Stude V8, but it was hard to convince Australian mechanics of that, so we had more than one instance where the car went in for service and a baffled mechanic couldn't get a part to fit. Pointing out once again that it was a Studebaker motor, usually got some argument that Studebakers use GM motors... Anyone who knew Studebakers could tell straight away from the characteristic exhaust sound that it had the Studebaker V8.
@Sorted7
@Sorted7 2 жыл бұрын
I bloody love the geekyness of these vids! Keep them comin Steve!
@ExilefromCrownHill
@ExilefromCrownHill 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody I used to know in Maine in the 1990's had two late '50s Studebaker Hawks. The nice one sat outside under the trees getting rusty, the junky rust bucket one was locked away in the garage. When I asked him why, this was his answer: the junky one had solid BLUE tinted windows from the factory, one of only ten +/- known to have this option. He had already refused an offer of $10,000 for the car, and the National Studebaker Club pursued him. This guy, and his two cars, disappeared overnight and he left his house behind. I believe the Studebaker plant in South Bend was last used by GM to switch out the diesel motors in Humvees and converted to Chevrolet v8s for the civilian market. Hundreds of brand new diesel motors sat in the rain and snow when the roof collapsed, according to an urban exploring book I read.
@CarputingYT
@CarputingYT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another video Steve! Have a great day
@AnthonyBarthelCurbside
@AnthonyBarthelCurbside 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Francis Bavier, who portrayed Aunt Bea on”the Andy Griffith Show,” had a Canadian Studebaker that she was driven around in until her death in the 1989.
@scottinWV
@scottinWV 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard she was a big time car enthusiast.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 2 жыл бұрын
She did, she was also the first actor to drive their own car in a TV show, and it was her Studebaker. The car still exists, it's in Denton, NC.
@bradbates2339
@bradbates2339 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating story. I grew up to the west of Hamilton and it was known then as Steeltown but I hadn't heard before they made Studebakers for almost 20 years.
@corvetcoyote443
@corvetcoyote443 2 жыл бұрын
The good,the bad,and the ugly,any Studebaker is highly collectible,I hope that Lark shown in this video is saved and restored!!,she is a beautiful car!
@curtaustin8119
@curtaustin8119 2 жыл бұрын
My first car. That is, my father bought me one to use in high school (ca: 1969) and college. I foolishly bought a '63 two years ago. Had to find a better six for it, and weld in a new floor. The '63's had the old-school grill, not the "Ford Fairlane" sort of grill in the '64. Kinda cool.
@johnh8917
@johnh8917 2 жыл бұрын
Every day is a school day with steve!!
@ricklundin1154
@ricklundin1154 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!! The model car stuff was good but it's good to see you back home in a junkyard!
@johnclark3431
@johnclark3431 2 жыл бұрын
I almost burn a hole in my screen every time I see you post a new video! Awesome, awesome stuff! It’s like my daily fix for my automotive knowledge cravings
@briansmith1042
@briansmith1042 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing mostly the car.
@maxdelozier5752
@maxdelozier5752 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I enjoy more than a good crawl is watching one ..keep em coming Steve makes the after work brew more enjoyable
@5610winston
@5610winston 3 ай бұрын
5:55 Studebaker used the 194 and 230 six-cylinder engines and the 283 V8, all sourced from McKinnon. All automatics were the Borg-Warner three-speed units, never Powerglides.
@kylekyleson373
@kylekyleson373 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad loved these cars. My parents had a 1958 Champion, 1962 and !963 Larks. I remember Mom turning that big steering wheel on the 1963, V8 and no power steering.
@jayjaynella4539
@jayjaynella4539 2 жыл бұрын
In 1983 my dad gave me a Ford econoline van with small V8 that weighed 6000 pounds empty. Manual steering with 8 inch wide 16.5 tires. I, a little guy, could turn that van with one hand very easily. That van did not need PS.
@haworthlowell805
@haworthlowell805 2 жыл бұрын
I was back home in Indiana a few years ago and saw a Lark on a trailer. Dog dish hubcaps, plain paint, very camo, had traction bars and skicks on thd back. Happen to run into the owner & asked what was under the hood. 283 with a Paxtin supercharger similar to the Avanti power plant. Can you say sleeper?!
@errorsofmodernism9715
@errorsofmodernism9715 2 жыл бұрын
Paxton
@haworthlowell805
@haworthlowell805 2 жыл бұрын
@@errorsofmodernism9715 yeah, I know just hit the wring letter; fat fingers.
@satisfyingcuriosities
@satisfyingcuriosities 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content Steve! You're amazing ❤
@ervingoertzen7233
@ervingoertzen7233 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct . They weren’t a beaten company . Beancounters stuck to Refridgerators and shunt trucks and other business ventures
@joebarber4030
@joebarber4030 2 жыл бұрын
Steve love the videos, but 64’s were powered by studebaker v8’s The chevy power came in 65 and 66 from the Canada plant which had been building cars for many years already.
@robertwatkins364
@robertwatkins364 2 жыл бұрын
My 1964 Studebaker Commander had a Studebaker 259 V8, with a three speed, and overdrive. The thing that really confused the troops, was the hill holder! They just couldn't figure that one out.
@Oldcarnut63
@Oldcarnut63 2 жыл бұрын
My 64 Daytona was made in south bend and the engine is a studebaker 259.
@daveshep9400
@daveshep9400 2 жыл бұрын
I learned something today. That cut throat management decisions started earlier than I thought. With common people celebrating the loss of jobs and retirement security. All in awe and wonder of corporate profits .
@jayjaynella4539
@jayjaynella4539 2 жыл бұрын
Cut throat management was started by Robert McNamara who worked for a time with Ford after ww2. And then took his destructive methods to other companies.
@francisjaniewski5990
@francisjaniewski5990 2 жыл бұрын
Steve,love your views on the cars you scope out. I worked painting mail trucks in South Bend, In. In 1983,the old Studebaker building that then went to AMGENERAL. Its a almost done warehouse now with 3 employees.
@jamesthompson8008
@jamesthompson8008 2 жыл бұрын
Great info there to the Studebaker ending back story! I knew they had owned a few different companies, but didn't know just how widely diversified they were. I have a few of the old Gravelys, literature with them was how I knew about the Stude connection. Cool vid!
@nealsidor1323
@nealsidor1323 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, that's the most concise assessment of 'Studies' demise I've heard to date. Dude you are truly a walking encyclopedia of autodom...👍
@pmafterdark
@pmafterdark 2 жыл бұрын
Some interesting facts about Studebaker I didn't know. Thanks Steve.
@raymondclark1785
@raymondclark1785 2 жыл бұрын
When I worked for a Chevy dealer a co-worker had a Stude with the 194. We replaced a truck 292 and he had the old block bored out and into his Stude. It did well at the drag strip and no one noticed the bigger pushrod pan on the side :) Later I worked for a foreign car dealer that had been a Studebaker dealer and still had/used the Champ service pickup
@CORVAIRWILD
@CORVAIRWILD 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about ChevIacs, is the engine was NOT a Chevy, but a McKinnon industries under GM-Chevy license, just as you stated. When I was younger, and I would go to Canadian tire to get parts for my '67 Parisienne 2+2 RotBox, they would ask if the engine was red or blue. That's how we deciphered what a Pontiac was, or a Chevy-yak
@glenbo2464
@glenbo2464 2 жыл бұрын
I had a maroon 66 Cruiser 4 door as a teen. It had a 283 Chevrolet V8 with a 2 BBL carb. That old thing ripped down the road but the steering box was shot. lol Also had a 59 Lark 4 door with a 259v8 and a 60 Lark wagon with a 259 also. They all ran great !
@justralphajerseyguystuckin3671
@justralphajerseyguystuckin3671 2 жыл бұрын
Very Cool, I did not know this info...thanks for sharing it with us Steve :-)
@morgenhoop
@morgenhoop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Steve.
@CanadianClassicCarNut
@CanadianClassicCarNut 2 жыл бұрын
Being a V8 car it'd also have a Dana 44 rear end and maybe Twin Traction
@tony-ps4qw
@tony-ps4qw 2 жыл бұрын
Steve is a walking encyclopedia of automotive history-great and very interesting information, and history!
@davidcompston401
@davidcompston401 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a '64 Lark Daytona V8 2drHT in the mid-70's. It was Canadian built (as am I), and had a 259ci Studebaker V8 with 2bbl and single exhaust. I discovered that the 2bbl manifold was made from a 4bbl casting so, as I was working at an aircraft shop, I finished machining it to fit a 500cfm Carter Comp 4bbl carb. I also sawed off the single exhaust and 'fabricated' a dual using flexible exhaust pipe and a pair of Hush Thrush mufflers, dumping just ahead of the rear tires through some Thrush aluminum tips. 302 Mustangs, and 327 Chevelles, were easy prey. The "Nash" seats were awesome for drive-ins. I still have the "STP" sticker that was wrapped around the oil cap/vent, all the emblems and hood ornament, a bunch of the dash rocker-switches, and the makeup drawer/mirror from the glove box, and half a box of home-made 57R bulbs (Not sure if all Studebakers had them, but mine was spec'd with red dash lights, so I created a 'cheat' to make my own out of clear 57 bulbs, as real 57Rs were expensive in '74.).
@johnwinkler6575
@johnwinkler6575 2 жыл бұрын
I took my drivers Ed in a 64 Studebaker and I know for a fact it had a Studebaker engine. My great uncle bought it new sometime in the spring of 64 in Kokomo Indiana. That was a really neat car the front seats would lay down and make a bed into the backseat. I went on many a vacation in the car to Canada and Colorado and Wyoming it was a great little car.
@Sidewinder1999
@Sidewinder1999 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff as always Steve, keep it up.
@LORISSABOOBMAN
@LORISSABOOBMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Gravely goes way back i used one with a huge blade & other attachments also a PTO.
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of those cars in the bushes here in Canada. I didn’t realize Studebaker lived one past their car making days! Thanks Steve.
@davidthehillbilly7995
@davidthehillbilly7995 2 жыл бұрын
My doctor with the same name didn't know they even existed. He's only 50....
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidthehillbilly7995 Interesting for sure!
@21stcenturyozman20
@21stcenturyozman20 2 жыл бұрын
I had a '64 Cruiser - former police highway pursuit car (RHD, Australian CKD job). Went well, but forget trying to stop it. I also had a '64 Gran Turismo (RHD).
@jerrygold6771
@jerrygold6771 2 жыл бұрын
Steve ,really enjoying your videos,very entertaining ,and full of cool facts.You probably don't remember me but we hung out at a few car shows in the Pasadena area many years ago ,I drove a powder blue '62 Valiant wagon at the time .
@pl5624
@pl5624 2 жыл бұрын
Studebaker engines continued past Dec 1963...the engine workers upstairs were still under contract for another 2-3 months.
@jaswmclark
@jaswmclark 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a case worker for the "Children's Aid Society" in Ontario and was paid milage, so was able to save up enough money to replace her car every three years. She had a '59 LARK with the flat head six and three on the tree, which was replaced by a '62 with the overhead valve engine and an automatic transmission which I used to do my drivers test in. My father thought the '59 was the better car. When it was announced that they were going to use Chevrolet engines my parents were among those that thought "If I am going to have a car with a chevy engine, it might as well be a chevy so they got a '65 Dodge instead. One benefit I got from the relationship with Mercedes-Benz and Studebaker was my first car. When I was 17 my father took me to our Studebaker dealer and pointed to a '59 Mercedes 190D and told me "See if you can start it." The dealer's mechanics did not know about diesels, so I bled the air out of the fuel system and when the dealer's daughter, who was in my high school class, came over to see what I was doing I pulled a hairpin out of her hair to replace a missing cotter pin. It took me abot 8 minutes to get the engine running. Dad told me that he had a bet with the dealer that if I could get the car started in 1/4 hour the car was mine. I did have to pay for new batteries and changing the ownership
@tightwadtv3421
@tightwadtv3421 2 жыл бұрын
I'd always heard that the differential on my 2-wheel Gravely tractor was made by Studebaker. You just confirmed it. Nerding out with everybody else.
@randymack2222
@randymack2222 2 жыл бұрын
If you inspect the engine on some of the Early Gravely's, you will find many parts resemble the single cylinder Harley Davidson's.
@fk4515
@fk4515 2 жыл бұрын
Gravely was acquired by Studebaker around 1960
@jayjaynella4539
@jayjaynella4539 2 жыл бұрын
That car is in restorable condition. I had a 64 Commander like that but it rusted away. One of the best looking cars ever. All metal grills and bumpers.
@blautens
@blautens 2 жыл бұрын
There are some excellent films about Studebaker. My father bought a 1963 Lark new (inline 6, 3 speed manual) and we had that car until 1978. I can remember it distinctly - and the floorboards rusting out to the point where he didn't let us kids in it until he fixed them, and considering the car never left south Florida, that doesn't really speak well of the sheetmetal. He donated the car to our church and last we heard it was doing dirt oval racing with a SBC in it.
@mgmcd1
@mgmcd1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got all three of your 1001 books. Great stuff.
@casselts1
@casselts1 2 жыл бұрын
Sherwood Egbert can be credited for Studebaker’s transformation in the final years. He brought in Brooks Sevens and Raymond Loewy to revolutionize the company. Studebaker entered the ‘60s with the aging finned Hawk and the Lark. By the end of ‘63 there was the Avanti and the GT Hawk, and the dowdy, dorky Lark was restyled into the handsome Cruiser/Daytona lines. But as Steve Mags said, the Studebaker BoD wanted out of the automotive business and nothing could change their minds. Egbert fought for the company, but while fighting the BoD he was also fighting cancer. His health gave the board the means to push him out and he resigned in November 1963.
@danielcarroll5667
@danielcarroll5667 2 жыл бұрын
One more sad "Killer Corporation" story , "what have you done for me in the last 15 minutes ? " RIP Mr. Egbert
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac 2 жыл бұрын
My first car was similar to this car. Mine was a 64 Challenger (yes, Stude. used the name first) 2 door, 6 cylinder (Stude.) engine, auto trans. The challenger had 2 headlights unlike this one, with 4. By the time I got it, the floors were patched together with stacked printing press plates (Dad was a Offset Lithographer), and the engine burned & leaked oil...badly. Good times!
@b.abrackus6403
@b.abrackus6403 2 жыл бұрын
South Bend was a strong Union autoworkers city..This company was plagued with Labor Disputes...it was a common saying among the workers...Don't bring your Lunch to work...We don't know if we'll be here that long...lol
@francisjaniewski5990
@francisjaniewski5990 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh,same junk UAW I had at AM General same old Studebaker buildings. I for a full time AM worker with same UAW got 6 yrs of layoff and 6 yrs of layoff in 24 yrs. Man that was a Good union. Thats probably why Studebaker shutdown
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 2 жыл бұрын
While it's true that Studebaker's union got greedy, Studebaker's management gave into them too easily and it was ultimately the management that decided to close down automotive operations entirely. This was despite both South Bend and Hamilton posting profits when they were closed.
@toddbonin6926
@toddbonin6926 Жыл бұрын
Great tidbit on why Studebaker quit making cars. I wish they’d done differently.
@13coyote13
@13coyote13 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, don't forget Studebaker was the first real pony car company with the two door Paxton Supercharged Daytona's and Larks and they still to this day blow the doors off of the poser GTO and Mustangs as well as a lot of big block cars from the era and newer.
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 жыл бұрын
Look up Ted Harbit. He was still racing supercharged Studes in his 80s. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGrdqnWFg6aGbNk
@robertgallagher7734
@robertgallagher7734 2 жыл бұрын
Had a '65 Stude with the 283 & auto. It was a 3 speed Borg Warner with a special bellhousing. Also, it started in second unless 1st was manually selected, kind of like a 1st gen Mustang.
@jeffhammers5677
@jeffhammers5677 2 жыл бұрын
Your Canadian Studebaker had a Borg Warner from Checker Motor Co.
@craigjones2878
@craigjones2878 2 жыл бұрын
We had Studebakers in Australia, some of them were highway patrol cars.
@borismcfinnigan3430
@borismcfinnigan3430 2 жыл бұрын
We had v8 cruiser of this very model in an old hayshed on our property that me and my brother used to jump in and pretend we were driving. Sadly it got scrapped in a clean up, shame because it had been sitting at the back ld that shed undercover for 20 years since the early 70s and it was basically perfect.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 2 жыл бұрын
The Lark was a '59 model, though they were introduced in calendar year 1958.
@tony66au
@tony66au 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 61 Hawk in RHD for a while in the late 70's with from memory a 289 and it was an incredible car sadly stolen, For its time is was still a very capable and easy car to drive although parts became an issue and I was going to swap in a 351 Windsor/FMX auto I had laying around. We had CKD Studebaker and AMC cars sold in Aus for many many years and they thrived in this country for decades as reliable luxury cars very popular in Rural towns and regions and still pop up today.
@jayjaynella4539
@jayjaynella4539 2 жыл бұрын
I was told by a Ford lover that Studebaker had the first V8 powered police cars in Australia
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 11 ай бұрын
​@@jayjaynella4539Victoria police definitely used Studebaker V8 cars in the sixties until about 67. Some Vic policemen even raced an ex police car at Bathurst. The Bathurst 65 coverage in KZbin goes into a bit of detail. However Vic Police also used Ford Customlines in the fifties. All V8 models as far as I know. Some fifties docos feature the Customlines.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 10 ай бұрын
A search on the tube for : NFSA Car Stealers Should show Victoria Police Ford Customline V8s from the fifties before they started using Studebaker V8s.
@plunkervillerr1529
@plunkervillerr1529 Жыл бұрын
The Stude 259 and 289 engines left over in stock were shipped to Hamelton plant in Canada and were used in the early 1964 car production. I know this because I owned a 64 Daytona Canadian built model. Keep on plunking along .
@ruanecrummett9261
@ruanecrummett9261 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve it was nice to meet you Sunday at the show your a wealth of knowledge is amazing 😀
@flyonwall360
@flyonwall360 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, brings back memories as a kid riding in dad's 62 Lark.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
I've come across some mid 60s Onan generators that still have a paper tag on a twist tie around the dipstick that states: Onan generators a division of Studebaker. Ain't too many older fellas I've come across that know much about it. Edit: ok I've seen the name McGraw Edison on some later 70s Onan units, that's all I know.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great work Sir
@metalbob3335
@metalbob3335 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode love the steudebakers their supercharged V8 was a sight to see in an engine bay.
@bjr2379
@bjr2379 2 жыл бұрын
It looks as though Grecian Formula is now caught up in the recent supply chain debacle... Forever young! 😁 Another great video Steve!
@mattryan4067
@mattryan4067 2 жыл бұрын
Love these junkyard crawls and all his vast knowledge of cars ! It's kinda cool to see people fix up the Studebakers now ! My grandparents had a 289 Studebaker it did keep up with the traffic really well I remember a guy with a 67 camero with a 307 that thought was fast and got blown away but the 289 Studebaker running on 7 cylinders 😆
@jeffdalrymple1634
@jeffdalrymple1634 2 жыл бұрын
Kaiser is still in business. Raymond Lowey not only designed for Studebaker but the TWA livery. Studebaker continued to build cars in Brazil until 67-68 exclusively for the Brazilian market.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 11 ай бұрын
Lots of Loewy streamlined locomotives too. Both steam and electric. Pennsy and New York Central come to mind.
@tor2112
@tor2112 2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating! Thanks for sharing this…
@marvinmartian7281
@marvinmartian7281 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting Steve👍
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel Жыл бұрын
In the mid 60,s my uncle had the last of the Larks with the 283 Gm engine down under.
@henrytowne7463
@henrytowne7463 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with Studebakers purchased at Halicki's Studebaker dealership in Dunkirk NY. My parents had a 1956 Golden Hawk, mom had a 1961 Lark, then a 1963 Wagonaire, dad had a 1965 Daytona. Cars ahead of their time.... This dealership had connections with the original version Gone in 60 seconds...
@Threesixty31
@Threesixty31 2 жыл бұрын
As a french viewer, the Renault based motorhome on the background caught my attention. Looks so exotic in that junkyard 😊
@davejones6130
@davejones6130 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Steve - Im a canadian and didnt know the company migrated north way back then. My Aunt drove a 1950’s black Studebaker well into the late 60’s; the one with the cool visor over the winshield. I still remember bouncing around in the back seat i dont think it had seatbelts!
@davidjohnmiller4849
@davidjohnmiller4849 2 жыл бұрын
He’s incorrect , the Studebaker plant in Hamilton Ontario built cars from 1947-66
@flyoverstateresident2890
@flyoverstateresident2890 2 жыл бұрын
In 1980 I was was on route 202 north of Dayton Ohio and stopped to looked at a collection of Studebakers. While the owner was cleaning them he was talking about each of the vehicles. He had about 12 or 14 sitting there. Curious, I ask him only Studebakers and his response, with a smile, was that he was a Studebaker. He related that a branch of the family left the large farm to go to South Bend to build wagons. His side of the family stayed and continued on as prosperous farmers.
@fluffyzia
@fluffyzia Жыл бұрын
I know that's a true story
@danweyant707
@danweyant707 2 жыл бұрын
Good one, thank you. Always intriguing how and why such a big company unwinds.
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441 2 жыл бұрын
That was really good. Thank you very much for that information. I don't think there's anybody else that would explain it to the extent that you do. Thank you. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦🇨🇦
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a cool potential electric resto-mod I'd love to see!
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 жыл бұрын
Very Gattaca!
@johanbjork1650
@johanbjork1650 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Magnante,in a junk yard, in a T-shirt, in the snow, reading from the Bible. What more can a car guy ask for?
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 2 жыл бұрын
A beer
@johanbjork1650
@johanbjork1650 2 жыл бұрын
@@samholdsworth420 I'll drink to that.
@saltdaemon4453
@saltdaemon4453 2 жыл бұрын
The camera man should have focused on the 30's relic next to that Studebaker.
@larryg.9187
@larryg.9187 2 жыл бұрын
..... Too bad about this cars overall condition ... To see my car, also a 1965 Cruiser on YT, type in 1965 Cruiser- Studebaker on its last leg ..... I didn't film or title this clip, and the 'last leg' part is actually in reference to Studebakers 'last years' in making cars ... ..... Enjoyed the clip and info Steve ... Good to see fellow enthusiasts of Studebakers are still around ... BTW, tonight is my monthly meeting with The Studebakers Drivers Club- Bakersfield branch .....
@bfmcarparts
@bfmcarparts 2 жыл бұрын
5:46 McKinnon also produced the AC Delco spiral shock absorber for GM Canada and replacement shocks for other cars. They were painted a torquoise colour.
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