A factory installed GM 283 V8 in a 1965 Studebaker ?

[@richdorak1547]

Can't go wrong with a 283. Simple and bulletproof engine. Happy travels!

[@Billy-bh8tr]

My grandfather had a Studebaker golden hawk. A Studebaker 289. 4 speed. It was fast. Gave it to my father. Still today it's in the barn.

[@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus]

What a neat classic to own! The 283 is a perfect powerplant for that car too. The Studebakers always had nice lines. 👍🏻

[@ghw7192]

In 1965, I was looking for my first car and had my eyes on a supercharged Golden Hawk. However, my father had to sign, so I ended up with a 1955 Packard Patrician that he wanted. The Packard was a great car, but I still lost for a Studebaker.

[@davewinter2688]

Nice video., I have a '65 Commander with the 194 cu. in six cylinder and "three on the tree" transmission with the Borg Warner overdrive. Chevy used the 194 in some pickup trucks in the late 1950's. The only difference I can see between mine and yours is that mine has the full wheel covers vs the smaller hub caps on yours. I always believed that the 283 in the 65 and 66 year models WAS a Chevy engine. My Commander had a complete engine overhaul at 120,000 miles a little before I got it forty years ago. It had the typical Studebaker rust in the front fenders, so I got a set of NOS fenders from Neumann and Altman. A friend with a paint booth on his farm put the fenders on and painted the whole car for what was then a ridiculously low price. I drove it the 30 mile round trip to my day job quite a bit for a couple of years before retiring it to pleasure use only. It has about 148,000 miles on it now. FYI there was a fancier version of the same car called the Daytona. More chrome, I think fancier interior, GM turbo hydramatic transmission and factory AC. Happy motoring!😊

[@waiting4aliens]

The turbo thrift 194 came out in 1962.

[@davewinter2688]

@@waiting4aliens Really. I have always heard but never researched that. I've never seen one, that I know of, anywhere except in my Commander. It moves the Commander down the road as fast as I care to drive it. I can't imagine the 283 in that car. It's not that heavy. Does up to around 24mpg highway driving.

[@waiting4aliens]

@@davewinter2688 62-64 Chevy 2 had 194 cid engines. I had use of a cute little 62 Nova SS convertible in college with one and a powerglide.

[@powerhawk5628]

Studebaker did not use GM transmissions. They adapted "their" Borg Warner trans to the GM engines so people with V8s would often be fooled and think it was a power glide because Studebaker did a 2nd gear start

[@garylangley4502]

In my teenage years, I had some friends who were strictly Chevy fans, or "Bow ties in the eyes" as another friend would say. I also had some friends who would look at a car, and see the interesting points of the car, good and bad, regardless of the brand. I liked Studebakers, and have owned a total of 7. My Chevy friends didn't have much to say about my Studebakers that was good since they weren't Chevys! When I went to visit my other friends after buying my first car, a '61 Studebaker Lark, 6 cylinder, stick shift with overdrive, they spent a fair amount of time looking the car over, including the chassis and suspension. They then wanted to go for a ride in it. They appreciated the differences in the car from other cars, and in particular, differences in the car that were better than other cars. These are the type of people who really enjoy cars because they didn't have blinders on that exclude all brands except one. By the way, in the late '60's and on into the .70's, Studebaker sold a lot of bell housings for '65 and '66 automatic transmissions. Jaguars used Borg-Warner transmissions, and the Studebaker bell housings were used to put Chevy engines into Jaguars that had automatic transmissions..

[@daledavies2334]

Studebaker engineering was pretty solid while styling tended to conservative. Once they rolled into AMC, they outsourced engines. I can see Studebaker installing a Chev engine for test and comparison. How many are out in the world like that? Most development test cars were kept close to the chest and generally crushed at the end of their test.

[@garylangley4502]

@@daledavies2334 Studebaker was not affiliated with AMC. As far as the Chevy engines go, all '65 and '66 Studebakers had Chevy engines. It was not a test.

[@5610winston]

I learned on a '51 Commander Starlight three-on-the-tree with OD.

[@adoreslaurel]

Down under, My uncle had the last version of the Lark [our Police Dept used them] and at this stage they were all using 283 GM engines, guess the Study engine supply was all out.

[@capricetony]

283 is an excellent engine!!! I always get crap because I like bread and butter engines. I love Chevy 265, 267, 🎉283, 305, Olds 307, or a Mopar 318. Love 2bbl carburetors etc. I love all the cars that did the work, they took your Grandparents, and great Grandparents to work👍

[@erniemathews5085]

As an old guy, I remember the first stock-body car to hit 200mph was a Studebaker. It did have a belly pan.

[@dennisramstein28]

Great to find a true automobile "enthusiast. Thanks for the insights to Studebaker.

[@edwardallan197]

It is not hard to understand. I am 68, and admired Studebakers from afar my whole life. They have unique charm, & are built to last!

[@peterhallock9486]

I'm 74 and agree with you 100% 🥰🇺🇸

[@thomastrout9997]

Agreed. I just wish the company had been built to last. The Lark wagon with the sliding roof panel was one of the joys of my youth!

[@edwardallan197]

Wow Thomas! You had that wonderful wagon! I saw one!

[@AdamWaffen]

No. They weren’t.

[@radioflyer9490]

My dad brought a 67 Oldsmobile brand new. In those days you could get them built to your specifications. One of the options he chose was a three on the tree transmission. When it came time to change the clutch which happened fairly quickly 😊 we found the transmission was made by Ford.

[@insomniac2233]

Greetings! My grandfather worked at Studebaker in South Bend. He bench tested the Mercedes transmissions,and if they didn’t hit the right pitch,they were scrapped-no rework! The quality standards were always there. If Janco(spelling?)did that nothing would be on the road. Thanks for posting!

[@raymondclark1785]

I was a Chevy partsman and had a lot of Studebaker customers. One of the other partsmen had a Lark with the small 194 Chevy 6. Waitinng for the factory rep to inspect for disposal was Chevy truck 6 with a scored cylinder :) It went to a machine shop and i think bored out 40 over , rebuilt and installed in the Lark :) At drag races no one noticed the taller pushrod panel s or the oil cooler connections or suspected it had over 300 cubic inches :)

[@uncouthgent]

I love it ! Nobody really gives much attention to six cylinder engines. Guessing it was a 292. I remember having 292 engines as the ones we tore down and reassembled when I was in the GP vehicle mechanic course at Chanute AFB, IL.

[@neildickson5394]

You have unique excellent taste. This knife edge design never goes out of style. I've had 3 66's, and one 64. All top level trim Daytonas or Cruisers. I thought this was a Lark Challenger at first, also rare.

[@patriley9449]

My brother had a similar car many years ago and at first I thought it was an ugly and a poor choice of used car. After riding in it and actually driving it, i was very impressed. It was comfortable, reliable and powerful. Not sure what happened to it as he tended to be very hard on cars over time and ruined almost everything. It was good while it lasted.

[@alanstrong55]

283 was a fine motor. Likely pulled that Stude along just fine. With a 4bbl carb, it was small but mighty. Studebaker died all to soon.😢😢

[@peterrestaino7047]

Im a 1963 bug afficionado. Owned it since 1988. Whenever it has an issue I can fix it. Usually in an hour and no money spent.

[@glenj.taylor2938]

That's awesome! Why do you prefer the 63?

[@JimmeeDeGeek]

I had a '66 Commander with the SBC. No different than Excaliber and Checker. It also had front disc brakes, all parts sourced from Jaguar! I loved the flothru ventilation thru the taillights.

[@allanloiselle7290]

I bought my 64 2-door Commander in 1967. It had the Studebaker 6 upfront, and a 3-speed manual shift on the steering column. Even though it was as unreliable as anything out there, it has a special place in my brain where memories of cars gone by resides. It did not like modern highway speeds, like 70 - 75 mph. As a result, in the 56 months I owned it, the engine had major rebuilds twice, and the rear end was overhauled once. Still, I loved my Studebaker, when it worked. If it was possible, I'd love to have one again.

[@mikeyshouseofbrakes8463]

Avanti. What a machine.

[@papaloongie]

All GM Canada Pontiac and Chevys used Chevy engines. We never gotPontiac v8s here. On the other hand, American Pontiacs never (??) had 6 cylinders in them. My mom had a 60 Pontiac wagon with a 250 in it. We were in New Jersey and at a gas station the attendant lifted the hood and nearly fainted. He called every one around to look at it. Enjoyed the video.

[@JoeBob1955]

Many years ago, I had a '66 Chevelle, same body style as yours. This was in '74, so it was still a recent car, and was still shiny. When I first got it, some friends would get nervous when I'd visit...they thought it was the probation officer coming around LOL!

[@bigdon2241]

my dad was a studebaker man he had a use 1960 lark and later he got a new 1964 daytona and when studebaker whent bankrup he did keep the stud for many years thank you for the memory

[@powerhawk5628]

Studebaker didn't go bankrupt. Corporate axed the automotive division to focus on their other products

[@rodnokken7759]

Impressive style and content...looking forward to more.

[@nojunkwork5735]

In 1970 I had a 65 Studebaker wagon with the 283 that was given to me because it had a rod knock. I also had a 61 348 Belaire that got rear-ended and I needed a car to drive while the Belar was at the body shop. I took the 283 out of the Studebaker and put in an L79 350 horse 327 I had sitting on the garage floor. I never drove the Stude with the 283, but that 327 yanked it up and down the road very nicely. I got a lot of ribbing about driving a Studebaker until they walked out back and listened to the lopey idle.

[@uncouthgent]

Enjoyed the story ! Always fun getting the last laugh when others mock you. Of course, you eventually got your '61 Bel Air back on the road and passed the '65 Stude wagon on to someone else... so they could enjoy the 327 !

[@nojunkwork5735]

@@uncouthgent I still have both the Belair and the Stude. The Belair now has a 425 hp 396 out of a 65 Corvette, and Stude has a couple of modifications so that it runs the 1/4 at around 13.40 -13.60 depending on the weather through the exhaust and on street tires with the same L79.

[@uncouthgent]

@@nojunkwork5735 That is awesome you still have both cars and are enjoying them !

[@charlesacker8552]

Studebaker aficionado here, I own three, 1941 President 4dr, 1950 Commander 4dr and 1955 President State coupe. There's a difference between owning a classic Mustang, Corvette or other mainline auto and a well maintained Studebaker. Drive down the street in a mainline classic and only the car buffs notice. Drive down the street in a yellow and olive green (original colors) 1955 President and everybody notices, honks and you get several request to allow pictures to be taken. That's fun.

[@larryg.9187]

..... Studebaker Drivers Club member here from central California... I have a 1965 Cruiser, a Y-9... Meaning, fully appointed, or optioned... Just has 65K original miles... Always love seeing another '65 or '66 of any model... Enjoyed your film... Best regards .....

[@uncouthgent]

Glad you enjoyed the video ! Lots of Studebakers in the San Joaquin Valley, relative to other non Big 3 makes. Spent many years visiting family from Merced to Sacramento and up into the Mother Lode towns around Calaveras County.

[@bigears4014]

Australia had the 283 v8 as well , police used them

[@SPH56]

Bikes and Studes... I'm in!

[@uncouthgent]

Good knowing I'm not the only one !

[@marvinmartin4692]

Studabaker was so ahead of the rest in the 50’s! Aerodynamics was way ahead!

[@HowardJrFord]

As a lifelong mopar guy with several 60's - 70's Mopars , trust me , you can easily buy any , and I mean any mechanical part for one . Most of the parts are available from run of the mill auto parts stores .

[@uncouthgent]

Yes, mechanical parts are available for Mopars. I should have been more clear that I was referring mainly to body parts, door and window rubber, trim, and a lot of NOS and reproduction parts. I referenced MOPAR not to denigrate the many wonderful vehicles produced but highlight the availability in the Studebaker realm of almost any part, mechanical or otherwise.

[@seed_drill7135]

@@uncouthgent Yeah, try getting parts for Keller era Mopars. I had to glue a rubber step plate from a '51 in my '50 because the '50's were rubber over steel, while the '51's are just rubber and the holes don't line up with the nipples. And you're not going to find parts for fluid drives and Gyromatics, either. Engine parts? Not a problem, since they used that flat head six all the way to 1968 in the Power Wagon. Bullseye headlights? Nope. Replacement plastic interior pieces, including the steering wheel? Nope. Right threaded studs? You can find the ones for later Mopars, but not for the earlier ones.

[@davidhamm5626]

Nice to see one that is really nice, my '66 had the 283, with the ford o matic, and my '64 Daytona had the 289 2 bbl.

[@tomcrosby6332]

I had a '55 GMC pick up with a solid lifter 283 from a '65 El Camino. It would rev to 8000 easily and frequently. I also knocked over a short brick wall with that truck with no damage to the truck. I think hot rodders got 400 hp out of the 283 back in the day

[@vincentconsolo5782]

The 65 and 66 Studies had McKinnon Engines in them . McKinnon was the Canadian engine subsidiary of GM . One commenter in here said that the six was still Studebaker produced. All six and V8 engines for 66 and 65"s were Chevy through and through. The South Bend engine plant was kept going after the assembly lines ran silent in order to finish the model year out in Canada and the U.S. , and , to produce replacement spare engines in Studebaker's that would take only Studebaker engines in them .

[@SuperJoes70]

I liked the 66's because they have the flanged axles . I work on my friends 66 , I stiil have mt 1974 Avanti for 30 yers now owned a number of studes over the years Great cars

[@jasonthamos69]

Great video and very informative

[@BIGBADWOOD]

GM turd of an engine Check the specks and you will find the Compression specks dropped by 20 pounds per cyl compared to the same engine that Chevy used ! Yes you will need a crate engine ! 💩💩💩

[@7xtc25]

The Steward of Studebaker! Great video.

[@dougtodd305]

I'm a Borgward guy,lve had 1952 convertible commander and a 52 Starliner commander. A friend had a 1965 Wagonaire with a fixed sliding roof and a 283 ,l tried to get it,but missed .SDC is a great club.

[@Nova.1971]

Very nice ride with a very cool engine!!!

[@wsbill14224]

Your Studebaker's interior looks like the interior from the 64 Malibu I owned 40 years ago.

[@skeets6060]

Back in the day, a Studebaker station wagon got me more young ladies in the back of that fold down seat ,than any other car I ever owned

[@LordSamuelJ]

Chevybaker! I would rather have a 259 or 289 stude v8 than the 283. Nothing against the SBC, just they dont sound or look as cool as the stude engines. Also a factory supercharged stude 289? Why wouldn't i want that?

[@leonb2637]

GM also supplied engines for Checker around the same time.

[@carlinshowalter1806]

The Commander was one of the better looking cars of the '64-5 model years. pppppplus the 283 is a tough engine and was used in the Corvette for quite a while.

[@HarborLockRoad]

My 65 cruiser had the chevy six.

[@stephenreid7150]

My Papa had a 61 Hawk I loved it

[@thomastrout9997]

It always fascinates me how auto manufacturers work with competitors to the benefit of both companies. My 1963 Rambler wagon had dash knobs repurposed from early 1950's Fords.

[@kevinwong6588]

Hamilton had far better build quality than South Bend and it has been reported that the 1965 Hamilton Studebakers are of higher caliber than early 1964 (late 1963) South Bend builds. Also to note Hamilton supplied CKD kit shells for foreign assembly, partly due to preferred tariffs in British Commonwealth states. The last CKDs assembled were in Haifa, Israel in 1967 with 1965 or 1966 shells. Other than the Chevy/McKinnon engines, the main running change for 1965 would be solid color steering wheels (white early in the year, black later). 1964 South Bend cars have two-tone steering wheels.

[@markandrizzi9252]

My first car was a 1960 Lark 2-door with the 259c.i. and 3-speed auto. Painted it gloss black with chrome Cragars, chrome wheat burners(?), cheater slicks in back with little VW size wheels in front. It looked and sounded great…but was not fast. I use to pretend that it had a manual and could shift the auto to sound like it did. One time on the block I revved it up in neutral and dropped it into drive. The rear axle broke and I went clunking up the street amidst much guffawing from my friends. This is about 1972 I guess and I drove to Frost & French in DTLA to buy a new rear axle unit. It was less than $100! The mechanic at the gas station station I worked at installed it for $50 and I was on the road again… Subsequently among the many cars I have owned were three Peugeot wagons that I used in business, a Citroen DS, a few Saabs including a Sonnet. It all started with the Stude’!

[@uncouthgent]

Peugeots ! My stepmother had a 1970 504 she bought new in France, drove around on her trip, and shipped it back to the States. That car lasted until 1981 when my Dad killed it overheating on a rare hot Oregon summer day. My Dad bought a 1974 504 wagon around 1989. I like the "stadium seating" set up with the rear seat sitting higher providing a good view out the windshield for rear seat passengers.

[@autobug2]

By `65, Studebaker had already shut down the engine plants, to they contracted with GM for the 283's. Last Studes all had them 1965-66.

[@martentrudeau6948]

R.I.P. Studebaker car company. The 65 Commander is a good looking car, good move on Studebaker Canada to switch to Chevy engines back in the day. I like your car.

[@Irishfan]

I don't blame you for wanting to own a Studebaker. I wouldn't mind it myself. I would rather have one with a Studebaker Engine. They were much better engines than anything GM put out, but your reasoning is sound for why you have the GM Engine. I grew up in the South Bend area, and I am quite aware of Studebaker's and just how good of a car they were.

[@TheFiddlerforlife]

Factory equipped as an option for canadian built 1965 and 1966 studebakers

[@billbernhard3582]

The Studebaker V8 was a great engine too ! Way overbuilt, for internal strength and high compression possibilities, the 289 Studebaker V8 smoked the competition, right from the beginning, in the fifties. Adaptable & easy to work on too ! Studebaker simply ran out of time and money to keep up with the big spender at the Big Three.

[@davidsmith3158]

Poor management killed studebaker

[@evankibbe590]

Studebaker made some of the best cars made 😊😊

[@uncouthgent]

I, obviously, agree !

[@nf100]

had a 63 cruiser back around.......94. 289 auto and the smallest front disc brake pads i'd ever seen. previous owners had a chrysler alt & voltage regulator installed. only mod i did was replace points for a unilite

[@johnshei3155]

nice, didn't know that, i'd like to see the iron duke in one.

[@uncouthgent]

An Iron Duke 4 cylinder with a manual transmission would be an interesting build. Really something different !

[@stopmegan]

you should of titled your Video" NOW IS THR HOUR FOR STUDEBAKER POWER"

[@bones007able]

AMC was getting parts from different manufacturers back in the day to save $$$$$...

[@tedlawrence4189]

All '65-6 Stude V8's were 2bbl.283 Chevies. The 6 cyl's were still Stude's. They were all assembled in Canada. 64's were still made in So.Bend. My grandfather hung doors there in the late '40s and early '50s. Being born in '49, and living in So.Bend, I must have seen a million Studebaker's! Lol.

[@seed_drill7135]

Studebaker's engine foundry was in South Bend, they had no engine building capacity in Canada. The sixes were also GM sourced.

[@seed_drill7135]

@@DontCryAboutIt He said they were still Stude's, they weren't, they were GM. All production in South Bend ceased in December 63. They had enough engines to finish out the 64 model year in Ontario, but '65 and '66 used GM sourced sixes as well as eights.

[@tedlawrence4189]

Sorry, I assumed, for some strange reason,that the 65-6 models with 6 cyl.were leftovers that were shipped to Canada.

[@tedlawrence4189]

By the way: I witnessed the last production car made in So Bend. I was 15. Were either of you 2 also there?

[@seed_drill7135]

@@tedlawrence4189 I wasn't even a preconceived notion in 1963. But we have kept a flea market space next to some serious Studebaker guys for the last ten or fifteen years.

[@locker1325]

Not sure if I missed it but is this car your daily driver, at least in the summer. Have you performed any upgrades like solid state ignition?

[@uncouthgent]

The car is not my daily, yet. Not having a proper space for working on it has hampered getting much done. The car sat before I bought it and sat more after I bought it. I finally got it in the garage yesterday ! (Watch my latest video: "Drying out the Studebaker...") Converting to a Pertronix or similar is on my list along with possibly a Turner Brake front disc brake conversion.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Most of the Studebaker sent to Mexico had small block Chevy instead of the Packard V8 's. They were also the importer for Mercedes Benz in the late 50 's and early 60's

[@BuzzLOLOL]

And Mexico got the one year only '84 Monte Carlo SS with SBC 350" V8 (USA 305" or less only) and 4 speed manual tranny (USA 3 speed automatics only)...

[@glennmanchester5696]

I would take that car anyday

[@markfletcher8040]

Father had a 65 stude cruiser white v8 auto , we did 100k miles . Often got mistaken as an undercover police car in Australia, which he often took advantage off One thing that we noticed was when turning right the car would stall, this was fixed by drilling a small hole in the top of the carbi, it broke a vacuum that stopped the stalling issue. Loved that car for its power and room, you could sit 6 people comfortably. And it was made out of heavy steel, panel beaters hatted fixing them.

[@jimburig7064]

There should be some nice Studebakers out there with all the NOS parts available. The sb Chevy has to be substantially lighter than the Studebaker V8

[@uncouthgent]

I am not positive, but the 283 was approximately 80 to 100 pounds lighter than the Studebaker V8.

[@jimburig7064]

Thank you, @@uncouthgent.

[@kevincruz4045]

Another nice perk is 65 & 66 models have flanged axle shafts. Not tapered with key stock and nut.

[@uncouthgent]

I thought that would be the case with my '65, but mine has the tapered rear axle. Changing to flanged axles happened sometime during the '65 model production. Using the drum puller is a pain.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

I remember back in 1950's-2000's that AMC owners complained about the knurled rear axles slipping and stripping out the knurl where axle met hub for brake drums/wheels...

[@5610winston]

"Chevybaker" doesn't do it justice. "Ponchobaker"? Stude stayed with the Borg-Warner automatic. Type F transmission fluid.

[@ericesterby2895]

Studebaker stopped producing its own engines after 1964, as I’m sure will be mentioned.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Stopped December 1963...

[@billpressler5319]

@@BuzzLOLOL Engine assembly continued in South Bend well into 1964.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

@@billpressler5319 - Maybe for parts...

[@billpressler5319]

@@BuzzLOLOL Wrong. It's been written in a hundred places.

[@billpressler5319]

....and I owned one...a '64 Daytona HT built in June '64. It had a South Bend-built 259 V8....as every single, solitary, Canadian-built 1964 model Studebaker did.

[@jaswmclark]

My parents bought Studebakers for years, but when they stopped using their own engines and installing GM engines my father said "IF we are going to get a car with GM engine it might as well be a GM car." Since our local Chevrolet dealer was a crook we switched to Chrysler products. So by using GM engines Studebaker drove the last nail into its coffin.

[@carlinshowalter1806]

Not really,the small block Chevys are one of the toughest motors of their day.

[@jamesosborne2500]

Love to know where you could get interior parts I have a 1965 Commander

[@uncouthgent]

Have you tried Studebaker International ? They have some, not that many, N.O.S. interior items for the '64-'66 models.

[@dwmcever]

My 63 Pontiac Tempest Wagon came with a 326 V8. And a corvette 4 wheel independent suspension. Just saying.

[@Strider1954]

A small block chevy engine easily fits into a '51 bullit nose too.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

From about 63 Studes had Chev engines, until the end.

[@glenj.taylor2938]

Great video Gent. What transmission is in these? Gm also? Also, the voiceover was entertaining as hell. If only there was a Martial Arts scene to accompany it.😄

[@uncouthgent]

The automatic transmission is the same Borg-Warner unit Studebaker had installed since the late 50s. Part of the reason why the GM engines were an easier installation was because Checker Motors Corporation utilized GM 6 cylinder and V8 engines along with the same Borg- Warner transmission. Checker had engineered a bell housing connecting the GM engines with the B-W transmission. Studebaker bought the bell housings from Checker Motors allowing the easy change to GM engines. Yes, I know the automatic transmission Studebaker used was procured from Ford changing the name from Ford-O-Matic to Flight-O-Matic, but the small block Ford V8 did not fit as easily as the GM. Hence, not using Ford engines.

[@daveridgeway2639]

@@uncouthgent Hi Glen, I am 63 years old and I used to work at a transmission shop. Your information is very correct! Please respond. Dave...

[@uncouthgent]

@@daveridgeway2639 My friend, Glen, asked the question and I responded with the information you confirmed as correct. Your knowledge base, I'm sure, is a treasure trove needing to be shared so your talents and all the information you learned and retained doesn't get lost.

[@daveridgeway2639]

@@uncouthgent I used to work at a transmission shop, your info is correct. Dave...

[@Mr100asd]

YES, I had a 65 LARK with a 283 ..

[@fredfuller2281]

the Studebaker has 2600 lbs curb weight in there base Daytona...fun fact

[@billpressler5319]

Is your '65 an original-paint car? If so, look at the firewall...closely...as you face the underhood area, look to the left on the firewall....I bet you'll see a faint "BLUE" or "LAG" (Laguna Blue) handwritten in something like wax crayon before the car was painted, and it bled through the paint. A fellow with a Hamilton-built '64 showed me that on his car, and I went home and looked at my '66 in Timberline Turquoise has "TURQ" handwritten in the same place.

[@billpressler5319]

I can show you a pic of mine but I don't think a pic will post here.

[@uncouthgent]

Someone did a "scuff and shoot" paint job, as we called it when I was in the Air Force body shop, probably in the 90s. The color they shot is lighter than the original Laguna Blue. It's not that great of a paint job. The paint is "dead" and peeling on the trunk lid and the poor prep work shows through the thin layer of paint on the rest of the car. It looks good from 10' or so. It's presentable and suffices for the driver it is. I will take a look and see if there is any china marker with the color name on the firewall.

[@williamgunter6801]

Studrbaker used Chevy engines from mid 1964 when the South Bend engine plsnt closed onward.

[@daveridgeway2639]

Hi Glen, nice video! Some of the brand loyal Studebaker customer(s) got angry at Studebaker for switching to Chevrolet engines (that was not such a bad thing) and they called them "Chevybakers." I am 63 years old and I have been an ASE Master Certified mechanic most of my life. What I don't understand is that, Studebaker failed, but in the mean time American Motors did not? Please reply. Dave...

[@uncouthgent]

As a corporation, Studebaker did not fail. On the contrary, in the early 1960s the board of directors began diversifying getting away from relying upon auto production as the sole means making money and keeping the share holders content. With the closing of the main automotive production facilities in South Bend, IN in Dec 1963, it was basically the board of directors signaling their fairly imminent intent ceasing all automotive ventures. The last two models years of production at the Hamilton, Ontario, Canada plant were carried out fulfilling contracts for their dealer network. For the size of the Canadian production facility, Studebaker of Canada was actually able to return a small profit. The head of Studebaker Canada, Gordon Grundy, was more than enthusiastic keeping production going; however, the board of directors ceased automobile production in March 1966. The lead up to Studebaker getting to the point of pulling out of auto production stems from poor managerial decisions starting after the war : Paying their employees higher wages than the other manufacturers, not taking strikes when they should have and then taking strikes when they shouldn't, poor quality in the 1953 model year, poor financial management, reading the market wrong, etc. In the end, Studebaker was successful after getting out of the auto industry. Remember, companies are not in business to make whatever product. They are there to make money and that is it.

[@daveridgeway2639]

@@goldenhawk352 Hi Bubba, I am 63 years old and I have been a ASE Master Certified automotive technician most of my life. You are correct, in regards what I have read on the internet. I am working at a small engine repair shop at this time and we do work on Gravely garden tractors, and I have performed research on Gravely my self. Gravely is "high end" lawn equipment. Gravely is pronounced; "grave-lee", not ; "gravel-lee" By the way, STP Oil Treatment is a result of Studebaker also. I have worked on and driven quite a few Am/AMC cars, but I have never had the opportunity to work on and/or drive a Studebaker. One thig that I DO NOT understand is why American Motors "Am" stayed in business, but in the mean time Studebaker failed? What was a Studebaker like? An Am/AMC, Chevrolet, Ford, Plymouth or what? Was a Studebaker customer a perfectionist? Was he difficult to please? Was his previous car, an Am or GM? I am a Studebaker dummy. Please! Please! Reply! Dave...

[@daveridgeway2639]

@@goldenhawk352 So what you are telling me is that Studebaker targeted the Plymouth market and not the AMC market? Please reply. Dave...

[@kevinwong6588]

AMC survived into the 60s due to success of valued priced Rambler compacts, but the decision by CEO Roy Abernethy to expanded into full size and personal luxury/sport (Marlin) models starting the in the 1965 model year dragged them down into the 1970s. What kept AMC alive in the 1970s and 80s was Jeep.

[@johndelong5574]

Kelvinator made some pretty cars in the 50s.Then this happened.

[@uncouthgent]

Different car company. You are thinking of Nash.

[@scotttwombly6528]

What transmission does it have. GM power glide ?

[@uncouthgent]

Borg-Warner

[@powerhawk5628]

There's actually some confusion with that. Continued to use transmissions bought from Borg-Warner. 6 cylinder cars with autos start in first gear but V-8's start in 2nd. So many people assume a power glide because they only feel one shift.

[@donalddesnoo5303]

A327 engine probably a easy replacement 👍

[@AcmeRacing]

I was just about to say that a 327 with injection and some mild tweaks would make this thing an over-powered sleeper.

[@5610winston]

1:00 Borgward? DKW? Two-stroke SAAB?

[@uncouthgent]

My parents had a DKW before I was born. My mom told me gas station attendants always looked at her funny when she added a quart of oil to the gas at fill up.

[@5610winston]

@@uncouthgent A neighbor had a 3=6 when I was a kid. Funky little bug that made the strangest sounds, but that was nothing compared to the cars!

[@5610winston]

@@uncouthgent DKWs were pretty cool little cars. There are KZbin videos showing them driving in 21st century freeway traffic (and keeping up admirably --- look up _DKW Freeway Blast_ posted by a fellow who styles himself as 2-Stroke Turbo), DKWs in rallies, a model F102 making a rousing circuit on the Nurburgring...

[@5610winston]

@@uncouthgent Somehow my reply keeps getting lost. Look up the video _DKW Freeway Blast_ posted by 2-Stroke Turbo. See also the several rally videos and _Schilling DKW F12 GlpPro Nurburgring which shows (POV) a WKW oassing a Volco, a Fiat-Abarth, and a Porsche. Cool little cars for cars that looked so uncool when new.

[@shotgun1899]

Except for installing 282 Chevy really

[@gvet47]

Now if you could just swap out the body for something that looked nice.

[@uncouthgent]

This body style is certainly an acquired taste. I like what Brooks Stevens did.

[@billpressler5319]

@@uncouthgent I have a theory that volume normalizes bad, or at least 'meh', styling. I think the Stude has aged better than Chevy II, Falcon, or Valiant of the same year, with their 13 inch wheels, droopy rear wheel openings, and single headlights. Really, I think it looks better than the four-door '65 Chevelle you posted.

[@eutimiochavez415]

The studebaker is a better car then the the Chevy!

[@stevenhall9009]

There's no way in hell that there's actually a color called Bermuda Brown. Bermuda blue I can understand. Maybe sable Brown.

[@uncouthgent]

The blue colors for 1964 were Strato Blue and Laguna Blue. Oddly enough, Bermuda Brown is the actual name Studebaker chose.

[@jimmieroan9881]

my younger brother has one sitting in his driveway right now. my dad bought if from the secretary of a studebaker dealership just outside of san antonio. she bought it when the dealership closed down and drove it for years until she got too old to drive. they were built in canada, and contrary to the video parts are not readily available, front end part in particular. our family has always owned what some call orphan cars, hudsons, nash, studebaker , packard etc.

[@uncouthgent]

That's cool your brother still has the Studebaker your dad bought from the secretary of the closed Studebaker dealership. I was stationed at Lackland for 4 years. Where was the dealership ? As far as getting front end parts, have you tried Studebakervendors.com? It's a good starting point. Also, the local chapter of The Studebaker Drivers Club, it was the Hill Country chapter when I lived in San Antonio, is a great resource for more local assistance.

[@daviddevries2078]

My v8 Vega had a 283 vette motor,and I beat all the chevells. Because they out weighted me by 800 pounds easy so fun,,in the 70 all the cops had small v6 and 305 v8 s,,my 71 mustang they would not even chase us,,

[@vincentconsolo5782]

No way that's a Pontiac engine. I can tell by the exhaust manifolds , oil filler , and water pump.

[@uncouthgent]

Canadian Pontiac, eh

[@vincentconsolo5782]

@@uncouthgent Chevrolet = 283. Pontiac = 287. (1950's)

[@TrackTruth]

What's better than a 283? A 327 with a four barrel. yuck yuck. I got to visit the Stude, museum a couple years ago and it was the nicest car museum that I've been in . After looking at the Corvette the T-Bird, and the Hawk, the Grand Turismo Hawks were much better looking. Like a mini luxury car. The Govt wasnt interested in bailing out a NON Big 3 company. Just didn't happen.

[@Tchristman100]

Put a Chevrolet 427 small block-it looks exactly the same as the 283

[@andrewbecker3700]

No different than a '65 Chevy ii 4-door.

[@billpressler5319]

Better looking, longer wheelbase.

[@AdamWaffen]

383 stroker small block from Summit or Jegs.

[@larryhullinger4141]

Call it a gm engine if you want but its still A SMALL BLOCK CHEVY