Candidate caught using cell phone - Canadian Forces basic - First Stripes

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

OH wow, I didn't know this doc existed! Going to make a coffee and watch right now, thanks for the link!!!! I bet not much has changed since 2004 when I was there!!

[@mathislinteau9378]

Except the fact that I’m born in 2004 and I did my basic this year😅

[@whawhawha5828]

his story doesn't change, and it actually matches the MBr's story. They are just giving this guy a hard time. They should know better.

[@caseygillis9017]

It’s fucking boot camp…

[@buttersstotch1419]

what does mbr mean

[@samvinto]

@@buttersstotch1419member

[@songokucarot1668]

Giving him a bad time is the point, he’s in basic training

[@noah_huibers]

Master Bombardier. It is the artillery rank equivilent to a Master Corporal in most army regiments. @@buttersstotch1419

[@purplepeavey7874]

There were no debates when I went through in 1986.

[@Youdontknowwhatliterallymeans]

CAF keeps lowering its standards.

[@pablogonzalez8304]

No Kidding this is a joke

[@Andy_M.S.c]

And when your great great great ancestors joined the armed forces if they said anything at all to the whatever royalty officer was head of the squad, you got your fingers broken or pay docked, your point?

[@tookurjaerbs]

Do they have him at attention? Why is he moving around so much? Lol

[@dragonman1871]

Obviously not if he was they’d tell him to stop moving…

[@PastalyTTV]

He is in BMQ week 4.

[@MobPlot]

Christ, in many armies even answering your superior in disagreement would mean immediate punishment. They are fairly lenient with him.

[@chion918]

so you are stating , and the logic is that superior's thoughts or assumptions can not be disputed regardless of facts. How ironic it is to the core foundation / values of what civilized society is built upon. but as they said, there's the law for regular folks, then there's the law for military folks.

[@MobPlot]

@@chion918that is how all militaries work. You follow the chain of command and in return your commanders are tasked with protecting you. If you cannot tolerate that, do not join the military.

[@linkovich3319]

Is because there's cameras. 😉Coming from a troopaloop myself. Would bet he got extra attention afterwards; or got his section all jacked up for his infraction. Shit like this is common at the start, but the heat get's turned up after the first few weeks.

[@lfsky]

Stupid soldier, even stupider Seargant

[@HamSandwich277]

@@chion918 The facts of what happened are less important than how this individual chooses to interact with his instructors. He's trying to assert dominance over his superiors. The army cannot allow that, regardless who's right or wrong about a silly cell phone. We call this "attitude" in the army and it must be snuffed out where it manifests. Nobody cares about a cellphone, they care about whether a soldier can be subordinated to his superiors. Those who can't will be a major problem for the team and must be shown the door.

[@donaldtj9940]

For all those commenting on the state of his drill/him moving while at attention, I highly question your knowledge of the progress of basic training. He is not wearing his cap badge and you do not get your cap badge ('cornflake') until after you successfully pass your drill test. Up until that point you are still learning and 90% of what you know is from watching movies up until you went to basic and someone taught you how to properly march, stand at attention, etc. Similarly, your course staff are lenient with you on your drill pre-cap-badge until they get you on the drill deck where they can properly light you up. Also, there are levels of how hard the course staff are on you, depending on where you are in your basic journey (i.e. There's how they behave before you get your uniform, how they behave before you get issued your rifle, and how they behave after you pass your drill test). This kid looks like he's been in for two weeks, maybe.

[@alg54]

So much for "Head and eyes straight to the front" The arms flailing around was the first thing I noticed. It wasn't that way when I joined in 88. I was on many levels afraid of my instructors.

[@insanellama4340]

It’s like that with some platoons, I graduated in march and my first platoon was b26 and we had a Sartech warrant and all of our guys were infantry expect 2 so they were constantly yelling until we got our cap badges, then I got recoursed into a platoon known as the princess platoon and holy shit they were soft, like everyone was talking in ranks like? Shit had me so confuse

[@matt4048]

Tbf he has been there at most six weeks.

[@gaming6006]

That was a very professional agreement

[@randomdude1053]

He’s not even standing at attention… 😂

[@plozikou]

Sa version se tient, tout comme celle du bombardier chef qui a très bien pu passer exactement au moment où le gars prenait son téléphone pour l'éteindre.

[@markzhu1227]

Bro, everything in the military is confidential, its not like your boots are not shined or forgot to clean your weapon.

[@overcastandhaze]

Not exactly the highlight of Canadian discipline. We expect more. How about no cell phones whatsoever during training?

[@mikebabin9980]

Whole lot of hand movement for being at attention......lol.

[@ThatGuyPassion]

back in 2000 when i joined we didnt have smartphones we were lucky st,jean was a fun place to be lol (not lol)

[@acesinvicta9014]

THAT is getting scolded in Basic now? Wow, poor guy. I tell ya, this is making me laugh in my coffee. The stress, oh no. Please tell me THIS isn't the reason we have so few members completing Basic.

[@hasashi38]

Such a weak sergeant.

[@toddie-o7v]

The sgt was an instructor on my course 😂 almost 10 yrs ago

[@dinosaurus1172]

tbf even if its true that he was just turning off his phone, he shouldve remembered to do it beforehand. simply forgetting something he needs to do is already not very good

[@JRJunior8624]

""Stop giving me attitude" and he says it like a f'n sissy, Attitude? you don't know the meaning of the word Master Bdr in both cases he told the Sgt and you exactly what happened, and ended every reply with Sgt, MBdr, attitude??? what is this? a training video with scripted roles?

[@oshaughnessyrof5201]

Isn’t he at attention why is moving around like that?

[@NancyWalker-y3s]

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[@LionelMessi____________]

Why they speaking french??

[@rogereagles3491]

Teach him how to wear a beret!

[@WestCoastWarriorr]

That's pretty standard stuff, you don't need your phone at all. I think you shouldn't even be allowed to bring it to basic training. What happened to calling or writing/emailing your family from the base?

[@chion918]

yeah, but we are in the 21st century now. the trainee just forgot to mute his phone, unless if this was repeated, then there has to be a level of tolerance, otherwise, simply build and deploy bots instead of going thru the many hassle of training a fellow human.

[@LilMafs]

Heille c'est comme l'armée royale britannique!

[@GeorginaRowell]

Are use just about abuse if

[@MelissaWilliams-o4y]

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[@EugeneYoumans-r4i]

Brown Steven Lopez Mary Rodriguez Donald

[@EricMathieu-b3b]

2 heures de au pas marche

[@thomas7713]

☝️ Promo'SM

[@ihatemylyfe1764]

That chefs hat of a beret is making me cry

[@KallegrandStudios]

The backchat alone is fucking killing me from the inside. Then he interrupts him, gives him attitude. What the fuck do you gain out of fighting back? It's BMQ, you think that you winning your argument will mean shit one day? It's just a god damn game, not an illegitimate order.

[@simonpz4159]

tabarnak ya de lattitude le pouf

[@overdozz1254]

sarja

[@WhiteLightnin67]

This is why I couldn’t be in the military. I’d be promoted to brig master of the inside of a cell, or just kicked out. Repeatedly telling me to drop the attitude when there is none, I’ll show what my attitude really is

[@Nathan-bd6cq]

“I’ll show what my attitude really is” kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJPaoamqbJdoe8ksi=SGAvjpInAfzhya2b

[@hemorrhoidman1691]

This guy wasn't giving attitude persay, he just doesn't know how to report and reply in a military manner. He's still behaves like a civilian. We want no emotion, no gestures, no movement, look straight forward unless told to look at the speaker. You answer "Yes, sgt" or "No, sgt" and "I won't happen again, sgt" They are there to correct his behavior. They are giving him a hard time to induce stress and see how he operates. They are looking for any mistakes under a stressful combat environment. The sgts are there to help you ease into the military and become a soldier. They all have good intentions.

[@pizzaman321-s4k]

okay mister main character

[@TheInteligenceOvWar]

Yah, just try it. IF you make it past basic training with that, wait till you get to your regiment and they sort that shit out for you. Remember! A lot of ppl join the army and they come from living with mommy and daddy. When you join the army, they wanna sort out the bugs, because when they train you. It actually cost money. Who wants to train you IF you are a liability? You need to work under stress. They enemy isn't gonna stop firing at you, just because you're stressed and don't like it. Basic training IS where YOU find out if it is for you

[@Mr.BobbyBrown]

As a civilian, this is painful to watch. I understand it's the military, but I cannot imagine my boss or superior speaking to me like that. If I was stern in my truth, and they accused me of having an attitude... that would only push me away, not bring me closer. He didn't have an attitude and his story never changed, but they just kept pushing him. Either believe him or don't, but don't taunt him by trying to insult him by saying he has an attitude. It's only making the situation worse and also forcing him to have a negative opinion of superior officers. He isn't even going to bother telling the truth from then on out because he knows it won't matter, which is a bigger issue in itself.

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

You need to know exactly why you want to join the army in the first place. If you do, little stuff like this won't get to you. That's true of everyday life. People with big mentalities don't get all whiny over small sht

[@Mr.BobbyBrown]

@@m.d.sharpe8892 But it's okay for them to get whiny over small sht? Funny how logic works both ways, right?

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

@@Mr.BobbyBrown lol they are instructors man. You really think they care this much about a little cell phone? They are purposefully dragging it out to pressure him. It's an act meant to produce good soldiers. Tldr they are doing their job. Anyone who's too soft to handle something this minor has no business in bootcamp, much less on a battlefield

[@Mr.BobbyBrown]

@@m.d.sharpe8892 It's all about respect. You don't have to be a 'tough guy' to be on a battlefield. You don't have to be disrespected like that to qualify you to save your fellow countryman's life. It's just a tough guy prerequisite to make tough guys feel more tough.

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

@@Mr.BobbyBrown well you need to read my first comment again because that's completely wrong. Its about being able to leave your ego at the door when you know what your purpose/place is in the platoon and as a broader public servant. BTW I'm about to graduate BMQ myself so I know what I'm talking about and I know what the mindset of my instructors are. My whole platoon loves and respects all of them. Respect is not an issue at all

[@kyehusky5096]

lol this is ridiculous not like the army in ‘82

[@chrisburke624]

Back when I got in 2000) BMQ didn't even exist... It was called QL2 way back then, and smart phones weren't even a thing! Gosh that would have made life easier - being able to text friends and family whenever! Troops, you truly don't know how good you have it these days! 🤣🍻

[@GreenHoodi]

its true, I was very blessed to have access to my phone during my BMOQ, communication was so much easier and doing workbook was too easy because of it. However, I should mention that phones are becoming a massive problem in CFLRS as recruits are starting to lack in discipline and constantly leaking security on social media.

[@chrisburke624]

@@GreenHoodi Ah, that's a fair point

[@chrisnevergrowold330]

He's not an honest recruit. Bad character, get rid of him.

[@A0person1]

Lmao that ain’t how it works my guy

[@camaleon18]

how does it work then my guy?

[@ethanyungblut1307]

@@A0person1 He got a swipe for it, if he gets enough swipes he can be recoursed and sent back to the begining of BMQ