History Primer 201: Manchurian Model 13 Documentary | C&Rsenal

[@johnyricco1220]

My great uncle was the head of Mukden Arsenal for 1 year in the late 1920s after he returned from studying at Oxford, and a stint at bank in London. He died 20 years ago, before I became interested in historic firearms.

[@masahige2344]

As a specialist in Imperial Japan and client states, this is fantastic. Note that the Mukden/Hoten Arsenal did continue production of these for a while after the establishment of Manchukuo, since they had the tooling. Despite the move towards standardizing the Type 38, there are images of even individual Manchukuo Army rifle sections as late as 1945 using a mix of the two.

[@HeinousinAppearance]

I'm always interested in this era of Asia, got any book recommendations?

[@masahige2344]

@@HeinousinAppearance Depends on what aspect, of course. If you want to understand the exploitation of Pan-Asianism, read 'Pan-Asianism and Japan's War' by Eri Hotta. 'Manchuria Under Japanese Dominion' by Yamamuro Shinichi is still the definitive overall Manchukuo book.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

How many Mauser Spider-men do we have pointing at each other? at least 12?

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Wait until you get into the Lee-Enfield variants....

[@carlcarlton764]

No doubt the rifle of choice of all and any Manchurian Candidates!

[@zal7782]

Just evacuated from Asheville, this is a welcome distraction

[@mansoortanweer]

Stay safe!

[@grenmoyo3968]

Glad u got out safe

[@garethfergusson9538]

What's happening in Asheville?

[@terryhall3907]

Glad you got out, stay safe friend and if I can do anything please let me know

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​@@garethfergusson9538 hurricane Helene flooding

[@busterkier]

I used ballistol on my boots and it immediately made them more comfortable and nicer looking too.

[@bobskool]

And edible!

[@alleycat7482]

@@bobskool Anything is edible if you try hard enough

[@garethfergusson9538]

One can only dream of a warlord era history series, covering what happened, the battles and the weapons hosted by you and Ian.... Dreams Othias Dreams... Flip through in Indie Nidell too 😂

[@sun_king777]

I don’t know what the rifle is but I’m about to learn about it. Best. Channel. Ever.

[@Sman7290]

Damn, Othias! How long did it take to slog your way through the entire warlord era of China along with scripting and pronunciation? I gotta hand it to you. That was impressive.

[@Khar_Toba]

Somehow Othais is better at pronouncing Mandarin than French

[@ltqltq]

I prefer the rare rifles. I'm not interested in shooting but the engineering of these guns and the why they were engineered this way is what I watch for.

[@tenofprime]

Same here, the history of how the weapon came to be is what I love to see.

[@djd8305]

On a lighter note, I'm amazed bt the quality and depth of Othias, Mae etc's work. $1 a month is criminally cheap.

[@Khar_Toba]

Pronunciation pretty damn on point! Well done Othais

[@tangero3462]

Incredible work on the research for this one, and I can't understate how valuable some of the inferences you contributed are, especially with the dust cover reproduction

[@iamnolegend2519]

Thank you Othias and Mae.

[@Skelterz-]

I ordered my Ballistol but I did not see the option for comment. I wanted to thank them for their continued support of C&Rsenal.

[@blanktm228]

And as every two weeks I greatly appreciate what you do and how you do it. Thank you for your incredibly hard work.

[@Spartacus-us1eo]

The all Mauser channel, just kidding, there's a reason the design was done again and again, thank you for all you do!

[@tenofprime]

Yep, it is like the AK is in the modern setting, a rugged system that is easy to use and proven to work.

[@Pcm979]

It's interesting to see these almost hybrid designs. They're like Ligers, only smaller and can't bite your face off.

[@mcintoshpc]

Well, it still has a pretty nasty bite… of a sort.

[@douglaskillock3537]

Greetings from London. Thank you all for another excellent episode. The history behind this weapon is quite amazing

[@Brekwon97]

I love the effort you went through for the dust cover. Your work is very appreciated.

[@jakesolver4359]

Hats off to Mark and Bruno, 29:00. That is so freaking cool to be able to see what the dust cover likely, roughly, would have looked like. 👍🏻

[@stephencarran7650]

Wow! I have no idea how you made sense of all that!? Well done, highly interesting to see the comparative 'anatomy'. Thank you.

[@Dominic1962]

I was hoping to see one of these on here. It’s a fascinating piece.

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Such an interesting and fascinating rifle! Thanks you guys

[@bryansimon4072]

The cellos are calling! Thanks

[@jacobshort4978]

I’ve studies this era several times and always found visualising the cliques and the locations of cities difficult, this is by far the clearest explanation I’ve seen with the best visualisation to make things clear. A fantastic job and I’m going to up my Patreon contribution!

[@CommodoreFluffy]

love the history! i wonder if my family ever brushed up on this model of rifle. my family was involved in korean anarchist communes in manchuria during the japanese occupation

[@kregchrist2826]

Fascinating episode. Thank you and never stop covering weird old guns.

[@Mangowaffle]

I hope we get a video from Mark of that dustshroud build, super cool of him and Bruno to fabricate that. If your idea of the shroud retaining the cocking peice isn't correct I'd be shocked, it makes too much sense. And that's the algorithm engaged, thank you guys for the huge effort you put into this!

[@greydonstautzenberger3901]

Whoot whoot, hope yall are ok. Thank y’all for the consistent uploads through the years

[@KarltheKrazyone]

Amazing effort into this one, really enjoyed hearing on the podcast how much effort had to go into this one!

[@ndenise3460]

I keep watching all your content

[@alexhemsath6235]

Come for the boomsticks, stay for the history.

[@williammorris584]

It’s a bonus for sure.

[@wyattp9152]

Yay. New C&R😊

[@Spartacus-us1eo]

Indeed

[@dtaggartofRTD]

I enjoy the obscure stuff, so I am a patron. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@Gunny426HemiPlymouth]

Always love seeing little Mae shooting these full power rifles. I know some men who would wince at shooting a mauser all day. Good on you guys as always. Here to learn Mauser pattern rifle number eleventy five. That dust cover is pretty trick btw!

[@jsh6952]

I thought we were at the eleventy seventh pattern of Mauser.......

[@colinsimmons2913]

my head is spining from the info WOW great video

[@thatsleepyguy136]

love that you can see the mauser's characteristic flag safety and beeg extractor from the thumbnail

[@presidentmerkinmuffley6769]

Yes another Mauser derivative..... perfect for a day with nothing going on. And I'm way early.... last time I was this early Sam Coult was usng his interesting speling.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

much better hour spent tonight than listening to the debate

[@ernestcline2868]

To be fair, anyone who needs to listen to a debate at this point to decide who to vote for isn't paying attention to politics anyway.

[@mcintoshpc]

I can already tell this is going to be a very interesting piece. Thanks for another great video!

[@ryanjones6303]

Awesome episode. Thank you for your hard work.

[@cannonfodder4376]

Been looking forward to this episode. A most informative look at an unusual Mauser rifle.

[@davidhansen5067]

The combination of long history lesson and jaw-dropping part fabrication work for this episode is astonishing! Thank you to the crew and collaborators for this one.

[@murrayscott9546]

Wow ! Thanks ! What began as an examination ovva rifle became a full-blown history lesson ! Not being sarcastic. It goes to show that every picture tells a story, don't it ?

[@aaronskuse2207]

I JUST finished riding a stationary bike for an hour, I can’t believe I missed this until after I had finished.

[@DANRP303]

Extremely interesting, thank hours for the video!

[@lamnaa]

This might just be the first time a characther from this show made it to the 21st century.

[@jidk6565]

at 100 years old it's very impressive

[@williammorris584]

Really nice historical overview, as well as the usual fine review.

[@StellarGryphon]

Had never heard of these guns before, it’s an interesting combination of a bunch of different sources! As you said, everyone comes in for the popular guns, but I love learning about stuff I’d never heard of before!

[@murrayscott9546]

Pretty piece.

[@stevenwestswanson9263]

Great Video! As a fan of the Mauser action, I love seeing the odd family members of the Mauser family tree.

[@DB-yj3qc]

This one is the half-brother from the mailman, milk delivery guy, or handyman.🤔

[@stevenwestswanson9263]

@DB-yj3qc all of them, the Mauser family of rifles were used or copied by every nation was not France, Italy or was a British colony. The Mauser set the global standard for rifles in the 19th and early 20th centuries. It was copied/improved by the British, Japan and the US.

[@dew9lei]

Now I know just so much more about the three Manchurian Mausers I have. Thanks! ( And I can tell that youve tried your absolute best to not to slaughter the Chinese names).

[@demos113]

Lovely stuff. 🙂

[@davefellhoelter1343]

GREAT! History, Politics, Economy, Mausers! Bet the dust cover is integral, and you are Correct. Thanks to All who Helped. Nice Special "K" add with O' Bamma pimping.

[@UltimatePusheenLord]

its always interesting to see stuff from non european countries. great video :)

[@ultramarinegrunt]

Nice video too watch while im stuck because of the hurricane

[@momoido4681]

Nice

[@randalljeffs7272]

That first 10 minutes was probably worse for Orhias than reading fox in socks 10 times

[@danielnauta5689]

What an interesting story

[@deforesttappan6478]

Cents Halloween is coming up. Maybe you two can do a video on your least favorite gun's. You may choose more than one!!!

[@ivankrylov6270]

An arsenal logo stylized to look like a crosshair will always go hard as a mf

[@arseneken]

Good to see Bruno again, even if it’s just in beard and arm form

[@wagon9082]

Good video

[@historysmith9597]

My experience with Chinese firearms (norinco) is "type" refers to long guns. "Model" refers to hand guns. Eg. type 56 (AKM) model 56 (t33 tokarev), but it is not 100% accurate. That's my 2 cents. Thank you, guys, for all the hard work you put into these videos.

[@ling_zip]

"Type" and "model" are both variant translations of the original Chinese 式 (pronounced shr in Mandarin; shiki in Japanese since Japan also has a Type-Year designation system). The Chinese TT-33 is the 51式 ("Type/Model 51"), and the Chinese AK is the 56式 ("Type/Model 56"). The numbers on all Chinese 式 designations refer to the year the weapon/system was adopted.

[@paleoph6168]

Chinese Mausers are awesome, and this particularly rare one - even cooler!

[@williamskora334]

Quite a handsome rifle.

[@admiraltrung-ankancollepla2201]

I hope you can make new video about Hanyang 88 Rifle. Love your video, C&Rsenal

[@nathanbrown8680]

Bit late, but this is an episode worthy of comment.

[@ZazuYen]

I half expected him to say at some point, "And then politics were declared." because that was A LOT of politics.

[@Emu0181]

At this point I'm guessing Bruno can generate an animation of a Mauser action in his sleep

[@tenofprime]

He probably can do them pretty easily compared to other guns, take already made (by him) components and resize/reshape them.

[@martinm3474]

Looks like Mae's best pattern on her target.

[@urMom4sherriff]

I poured Ballistol on my resume, simply amazing results.

[@truaxe815]

1860 Army episode when? I need another dose of Reprocussion.

[@legalboy71]

I think there will be other Reprocussions before the 1860. I'm excited to see an episode on the Root. Hopefully soon. Reprocussion is great.

[@robertlewis8295]

I'm waiting for the Remington models

[@legalboy71]

@@robertlewis8295 same. That will be awesome. But the Root will be the next one they cover and I expect it to also be great.

[@davidbrennan660]

Wow when Othais does history he does history……. Chinese history doubley so….and Mae is slick with a rimless charger action.

[@colbunkmust]

I had no idea that Bohler was making gun-barrel steel for that long.

[@cheesenoodles8316]

Glad to see these Mausers get some attention.

[@tacticalmanatee]

That metal shroud is pretty impressive for a scratch-built replacement made without an original for reference

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

I actually wonder if it wouldn't have been easier to produce as a two part shroud and either solder or rivet the cover to the retaining plate at the rear. Because forming complicated stuff is hard, but attaching two custom made bits? Easier.

[@mikeblair2594]

I know it sounds silly, but I'd like to hear about the FR7 and FR8 from Spain. They are interesting enough that I'd like to hear the backstory of the thinking around them.

[@damonharrison2614]

Im on my lunch break, i see a Cnarsenal I click

[@mpkuspsa1664]

I havent watched this channel in a year. 1 episode wnd im bidding on guns online again 😅

[@zoiders]

Now is the time to listen to the theme from The Last Emperor by David Byrne.

[@みぎー-b9j]

非常に興味深い。円滑に動作して驚きだ。満州国皇帝万歳！民族協和！

[@mboudreaux94]

Seeing a post 2000 death date is wild

[@DebatingWombat]

I think there might be some misspelling of the mysterious Dane M. S. Shroder/S. Shroeder based on transliteration. His surname could’ve been “Shrøder”, though the more usual spelling is Schrøder. In either case, the “ø” sounds pretty much like a German “ö” and a “soft d” sounds much like the “th” in “the”. However, a historical work from 1945 on Danish engineering has an entry on Nielsen & Winther that mentions their chief engineer at the time, Aage Christiansen, in relation to several Chinese orders in the 1920s, including the one to Mukden (as it’s called in the source).

[@Primarch359]

I assume Mark is not intending making a batch of those shrouds to sell? Or releasing a. Video on how to construct one ourselves?

[@milkmanchoppers]

@c&rsenal would y'all like to do an episode on my Marlin 1898 12 Guage pump? The gun that was too late for the military trials.

[@EntertheDragonChild]

Nice History of the end of Manchu era China

[@sundoga4961]

I realize that the media has utterly bastardized it, but the word "clique" is pronounced "cleek".

[@Bidimus1]

As always nice vid.. but I think Arsenal is in the public domain..

[@Azure_Razgriz]

What? I think I had a brain aneurysm reading that.

[@CTXSLPR]

Engagement: I wish I had the time to listen to the podcast... I'm so behind on stuff that I just can't add anything that I want to do the respect of listening to not just having on in the background. Please understand that it's a compliment that I can't add you as it's too important to just hear vs. listen like it should be.

[@nadams01_65]

I’m buying up more bottles of ballistol than diddy bought baby oil nowadays

[@Alcochaser]

Wait it comes by the gallon?

[@CATech1138]

*perk*....in gallons you say?

[@AsbestosMuffins]

45:00 ah a wild chan kai shek appeared

[@AsbestosMuffins]

hmmm I'm seeing the dates get closer to the 1930s and I also see the date card for zhang

[@timothytietz9194]

dust cover? wow!!.

[@menopriezvisko1840]

! Czechoslovak legion! There were a lot of Slovaks in Czechoslovaks legions in Siberia, however, Czechs forbade Slovaks to speak Slovak in legions

[@Ali2006-cv5hh]

The war has ended

[@oconnorsean12]

Mark can take care of that for you 😉

[@Greentangle]

wanna see derringer