Canne de Combat et Bâton 2003 - SAVATE (САВАТ)

[@guybrushthreepwood3054]

La France devrait cultiver et promouvoir ses sports traditionnels nationaux. C'est très intéressant et unique comme sport, beaucoup de style.

[@RadarLuv100]

I chose my martial arts school specifically because they had a Savate program. I love martial arts in general, but Savate makes me FEEL.

[@nathanpapatric6928]

On le fait même si on pratique le kendo, la taekwondo Et d’autres disciplines asiatiques finalement on perpétue nos traditions juste avec une autre langue

[@theWZZA]

This is the real stuff. Attack, defense, footwork, speed. It's all there. Thank you so much for posting.

[@sjawarrior]

Simply brilliant. Both fighters displayed a level of technique rare amongst even professional fighters. The only bad thing I can say about it is that it sucks I didn't find it sooner.

[@otherjamesdoyle8626]

I love seeing 12 year olds who have never trained anything argue over the effectiveness of something.

[@niceone3656]

I practice this sport myself since a little more than a year now but neither me nor my teacher are anywhere near this level. It's just impressive. Footwordk is so fluid and the attacks are simply magnificient. Wow.

[@YamamotoKazuo]

Could it be considered as the stick version of sabre fencing?

[@joshuaamadeusishak1887]

@@YamamotoKazuo I believe, it was derived from fencing but the foil sword was changed into cane which is more common as self defense weapon during the time of its creation. So, the techniques are mostly similar to fencing.

[@jacoblucas4259]

This is the coolest goddamn thing I've ever watched.

[@instanthellmurderer]

You got that right jack!

[@raphaelrousso7124]

Splendide , je suis bluffé ! Complétement original et atypique , bravo aux athlètes ! Je ne suis pas chauvin mais obligé de reconnaitre l'énorme potentiel de la France , j'ai l'impression (peut-être fausse) que l'on ne fait rien comme le reste du monde (en négatif aussi surement ) . Gros merci d'avoir posté !

[@PHAZYSmindEMPIRE]

I wonder how many referees got whacked in the fucking head over the years...

[@b1gs3xy17]

😂

[@pattryckp]

Je suis carrément FAN de nos Arts-Martiaux à la Française. La Canne de Combat dépeint parfaitement le charme et le chic Français. Nous n'avons rien à envier aux autres disciplines. J'❤️ COCORICO ! 🐓

[@jhaveman]

Someone please turn this into light sabers!

[@onepieceguy2659]

Even now nobody has done it

[@robertsmartialartsjourney2219]

Totally agree, I would like to try this with light sabers in HK.

[@trusevich]

They do do it with light sabers now. Google it.

[@smackmmk]

the fencing federation is creating something similar with light sabers

[@jitiway]

It begins... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXS1c2yeitqNiZI

[@abrahemsamander3967]

This is my first time watching cane du combat. That was actually pretty fun!!

[@jujuanimal1995]

Me too just now and I’m French !!

[@krugstillo]

I never knew about this fight sport...But it looks impressive

[@fanchdelapampa3896]

Krug Stillo very funny sport. You can also mix it with savate kicks.

[@Heimrik01]

Tis is " canne française " (french canne)

[@stover14]

@@Heimrik01 Thank you!

[@bernarddddd471]

Historically, this was a subproduct of fencing learning (16th century). Then, it was practiced by the ones who were not allowed to have a sword (only for the nobility class) ; also in times when swords were banned (too many duels). Also, at some point in time it was learned in police and military schools, like "savate".

[@r.t.972]

Amazing display of skill, foot work, everything.

[@MFogg01]

Y'a pas a chier, c'est magnifique

[@Janika-xj2bv]

The moves are swift and fluid. And elegant, you see French character here. Great video, thanks for sharing.

[@oczhaal]

Ca a 20 ans mais c'étaient 2 superbes combattants, très techniques et avec un niveau physique impressionnant !

[@TheNxtGmer]

I could get used to this style of dueling. Kendo and fencing just doesn't cut it for me, since the rounds end too quickly whenever someone gets hit. I personally like the more theatrical style of sword-fighting, and I don't care much for realism and practicality. So discovering that there's a style of fighting out there like this, where the round doesn't end the moment someone gets hit, and has tons of jumping and spinning, it was a very pleasant surprise for me.

[@jacoblucas4259]

Agreed. I love fencing for all the mindgames, but this stuff just looks so cool.

[@kurok1sh170]

Except as much as these men have trained if they were to be matched against a traditional fencer or bushido fighter they would lose simply because they may be fast but those swings wouldn't cause a lot of damage even on lightly armoured opponents. Kendo, HEMA, fencing and any kind of shielded style would thrash this style in minutes at most. I understand your liking of more theatrical and fluid motions and longer lasting rounds but please don't allow yourself to consider this a viable martial art in any regard

[@trusevich]

Ahem... what a stupid thing to say. In Kendo and Fencing rounds end quickly (for those without skills) - only during competition. Which doesn't happen every day. You are free to spar as long as you want or sensei/coach decide during training. But it's much easier just sit on the couch and post random comments :)

[@gesshugh9976]

@@kurok1sh170 Um that's an unfair comparison. Kendo and fencing and HEMA are sword arts. You realize this isn't a sword art right? This is cane fighting. It was developed for street fighting in a time when most people carried canes. So yes, real fight, one person with a sword and armor vs another with a cane, sword guy wins. but give them both sticks, and then it changes drastically. If anything, one could argue this holds more realism and use in a modern era. A guy with a cane(who isn't too old to do this anyway) would certainly stand out, but not nearly so much as a dude walking around with a sword.

[@gesshugh9976]

@@trusevich He's talking about continual engagement. As in touching the opponent doesn't reset. Breaking the touch reset in fencing would sort of mess up the whole point of it. It represents getting stabbed with a sword. The reason they are more forgiving to strikes here, is because they are simulating striking your opponent with a gentlemen's walking cane.

[@casbah1982]

One very ballsy ref to be in that ring!

[@grangerpetmalu299]

It's like badminton shots. Also the footwork.

[@GordiansKnotHere]

Always loved this. Best thing about it, I always have a cane with me...

[@marcoraganato650]

Yoshimitsu has always been my favorite character

[@Fal41]

C’est beau c’est artistique

[@yogagymkali]

великолепно !!!

[@blah007001]

This is awesomeness incarnate

[@lonniesshow]

This is fantastic!!! : )

[@vladnick8755]

Impressionnant!!

[@davidpaul2797]

looks like they're button mashing

[@kirkcavenaugh758]

David Paul yeahh right

[@christianrodriguez7749]

Luego de ver con presicion dire no jodas estos tipos se mueven igual que los viejos que practican esgrimas criollas, ya he visto peleas con machete en estos lares e incluso aprendi un poco de este tipo combates hace un tiempo, por lo que venia a analizar si habia algo bueno en el video que me sirviera para incorporar al repetorio, ya que no estoy volviendo a entrenar y no jodas literal fue como si viera un conbate de Esgrima criolla pura y autentica de antaño solo que sin el sonido del acero chocando y con un especie de estetica mayor sin duda estan aun muy pero muy buen nivel estos tipos, por cierto gracias por compartir esta joyita.

[@catocall7323]

Saludos, me interesaria saber mas sobre la esgrima criolla de la cual hablas. De que pais es?

[@RadarLuv100]

RIP Professor Salem

[@ColinB89]

this looks fantastic :D i've been familiar with all sorts of stick fighting for some years but i've never seen this before , thanks !

[@Heimrik01]

C'est la Canne française.

[@RRVCrinale]

I can't be sure but I think the guy who lands their hit first is awarded the point.

[@CodeKiller1999]

Il n'y a malheureusement presque qu'aucune école de canne ou même de savate (dont la canne de combat est en partie originelle). C'est dommage :-(

[@Communstein]

+LeGrosWinnie effectivement il a très peu de club en France alors que c'est une discipline extraordinaire :)

[@CaligulaTradi]

Souvent dans les clubs d'arts martiaux ils peuvent t'apprendre des disciplines associées par exemple au Taekwondo on t'apprend quelques notions de canne, apres renseigne toi près de chez toi

[@SWBGPGMG]

Il y en a beaucoup en Alsace .

[@gibaudrac1]

Uh. Like. These guys are good.

[@paulbismut3473]

Superbe .

[@Pan.USA.Dojang]

Very interesting I never ever seen this before.

[@Snowbird2701]

Thats how I'ma fight when I hit 80

[@Hibbou.]

qu'est ce que j'aimerais en faire :(

[@lennsaturday5566]

I love this but all I see if two siblings who found sticks on the floor trying to beat the hell out of each other as siblings do. Its the wooshing noises when they swing for me 🤣

[@KrankuSama]

You can't defeat my chaos +5 estoc.

[@biggiesmalls4230]

4 years and this joke is still fucking great

[@JorgeLopez-ew3wd]

They should remix this with light Sabor edited in

[@dominikjakwerth1570]

Trés impressionant. 👌🔥 Comme est -ce que ca juger? Est-ce que juges exister, qui compter le touchees?

[@edgardo9003]

Are there companies who make the stick that is used in canne de combat?

[@LH74]

Awesome.

[@misterblank9]

Never seen this sport before it's cool. Are downward strikes an illegal move? they seemed to only be swinging horizontally

[@julien9498]

Hi, late answer. They are legal. You can see it at 0.41, 0.51 or 1.29

[@tenzysonu]

It was once an Olympic sports.

[@dejanigma]

We call it the water dance, young one.

[@93200Jonas]

La canne de combat mixée avec la Savate

[@jOsSeLFeO]

Beautiful

[@davemckay4359]

Cool 😎

[@Azami0001]

Man they are crazy. Looks like it hurts more than a punch!

[@uriels4097]

c'est classe

[@willmaeva]

trés beau sport

[@Fripon403]

Just learn savate from my own country It's so fast, playing a lot with foots.. I understand more why sometimes I use more my legs for doing Shaolin style or else Savate is in my blood lol

[@nicholasbrown5856]

AND THE CROW GOES SIIIIILLEEEENNT

[@mikeandre9052]

lol, I was thinking the same thing. -The vendors must sell valium instead of peanuts in France!

[@chourineur9250]

On est pas des sauvages ! Nous ne sommes pas au Colisée...

[@sparrowhawk81]

I don't understand the scoring of this. I see several hits happening but nothing stops, the ref does nothing. Are they being tallied up as they go? What's the point if not?

[@Arch0nium]

Sparrowhawk Hey there. Yes they're being tallied up :). A fight usually goes in 2 or 3 rounds of 2 minutes, with no interruption during the rounds. The referee is just here to make sure that the rules are being followed (mostly like in french boxing).

[@XNOW716]

Wow! That was impressive

[@NejtiShadowStar]

My favourite style fight *_*

[@abumuslim9029]

What types of stick they use?

[@simonpedersen9703]

Seems like a good sport for law enforcement. They could upgrade their baton skills

[@davlmt]

this used to be taught to french police back in the day

[@raysyndrome7209]

I just found out about this today. Holy fuck this looks so aggressive lolol I love it so much

[@usersky8685]

👍👍👍👏

[@Cvallejo555]

Very interesting

[@scooterman103]

The guy in white was far outclassed. Outstanding performance nonetheless.

[@旭ゲーンズブール]

かっこいい

[@Dedmaroz69]

What do we say to the god of death?

[@doylegoregutz6010]

not today

[@raymondwoodard3159]

Dedmaroz69 the god of death loves apples.

[@dasfreshyo]

What is the name of this style?

[@mba321]

The closest thing you're ever gonna get to lightsaber combat in the real world. May the 4th Be With You!! (comment written on 5/4/22)

[@justsomeguyanimations]

y r kids being taught karate instead of this. I'd teach my kid this to be honest. It's so much more theatrical than other sword styles I've found and it looks like a relatively niche thing

[@rallyivan1234]

wow! that's great! :)

[@MrCourtneyjohn]

@Dersou0ouzala Oh no, it is still well alive (and kicking...) though there are more practionners of the boxing style than the cane style

[@MrEdium]

What are those thin stick made of❓

[@jeromedapvril1047]

Bois de Châtaignier

[@MrEdium]

@@jeromedapvril1047 Thank You.

[@БорисВысоцкий-е3ж]

Это что за любопытное фехтование в САВАТЕ? Первый раз вижу.

[@savate.moscow]

Этому виду спорта больше века. Сават в России сейчас популярен, но раздел фехтования тростью не продвигается.

[@phatman811]

.. who is winning?

[@ぼるなっと]

東吾先生のから、ここきたけど、動きがすごい

[@super.heraut.officiel]

their legs are having a hard time.

[@yuzukinagai]

ワンインチから

[@Petburg]

Canne de Combat et Bâton (savate)

[@poposisa]

the movement at 1:48 beautiful

[@kurok1sh170]

Long shield. Arming sword or even a short spear or halberd. Steel plate armour focused on the legs and arms. And this fighting style has hit a very decisive wall.

[@RobMacKendrick]

Yeah. I see guys walking around like that in the street all the time.

[@kurok1sh170]

@@RobMacKendrick same Bro 👌

[@cockroachassylum9318]

This fighting style is with a stick. And if u replace it with a sword it will still be effective cause the combat isnt exhibiting thrusts. Even with sticks thrust isnt allowed in competition as it will do serious damage. Point is any martial art can be used for real damage. Stop being a dumb dumb

[@fishsandwichpatrol]

holy crap this rules

[@jinhunterslay1638]

Can you use Canne de Combat techniques with a SWORD!!??? o_O That will be awesome!!!

[@Jetman123]

That was actually the reason it existed. When swords were outlawed on the streets of France, gentlemen started using canes with the same techniques they had used to use with their rapiers and smallswords, adding more swinging techniques over time to take advantage of the bludgeoning effect. Then it grew into a martial art on its own, both for self defense and sportive combat.

[@4zerking]

Jetman123 Why is it that I have never seen any fighting style similar to this ? The dexterity of these guys is anormally good and I doubt a sword's weight is what keeps other swordsmen from moving the way they do. Even olympic fencers don't do that shit even though they have foils.

[@Jetman123]

4zerking These weapons ARE a lot lighter than many other weapons, because they're intended to hit and not do much injury. It's kind of the same way with a foam sword versus a real one. The real reason, though, is that like any martial sport (since it is a sport, in this case), rulesets promote this kind of behavior over more cautious or conservative approaches. Sports aren't a bad thing, but in real combat you'd use a wider range of maneuvers and face threat from a wider range of maneuvers in turn. It's quite a spectacle, but the real street-proven techniques of La Canne are a little different. Fencing foils are very whippy and you tend to lose your ability to parry if you flail them around, let alone the fact that olympic fencing doesn't allow you to move off a straight line with your opponent, and it forces you to parry before attacking with your own weapon. This promotes a much more conservative mindset, for example.

[@4zerking]

Jetman123 Damn, I forgot to take the weight into account. And the sport thing. Well, the reason I never do sports is to avoid these bad behaviours. I damn wish I could find some real sword instructor, but there isn't any in my town ( whether sport oriented or not ). But also, sports simply don't appeal me. I don't mind some football but I don't have any attraction for sportish fights.

[@Jetman123]

4zerking Games and sports ARE really good at training up certain mindsets and reflexes, but they have to be combined with additional training regarding the real world, indeed. I don't mean to shit on them, it's just a fact of game vs real life. Have you tried HEMA Alliance's group finder, by chance?

[@jonathankyle963]

What is this sport called?

[@Arch0nium]

Jonathan Kyle "Canne the combat" as the title mentionned :). It's french for "Stick-fighting".

[@jonathankyle963]

ahhh! Thanks.

[@chourineur9250]

@@Arch0nium la "Canne de combat"plus précisément...

[@ImBurried]

The other guy uses also his left hand. At high level, you must use both of your hands to disturb your oponent.

[@oldigger7060]

Very skillful. You would not like to be on the receiving end without padding!

[@DeJake]

Holy shit I wanna get into this

[@kassebonbons7743]

C'est bien mieux que la boxe

[@LeVorace33]

Dont want to be the referee... *BAM*

[@Scout555]

Should have demoed this in the Olympics.

[@omershlomoatzraf2863]

Yoshimitsu early days

[@juanplomeli]

I would like to see this style against kali.

[@joebotz1243]

Half ninja half Jedi

[@shehreyarky]

The guy in orange is ambidextrous. I've only read shit like that in fantasy books. Quite cool to say it for real.

[@RaymondYan007]

Wow! Their standards are very high!

[@Adrock5454]

Awesome, why is this not an Olympic sport and fencing is!!!!!!!!!?

[@enduraman1]

That was interesting... I'm sure those sticks hurt, but would never knock out anyone. Would be better fight it sticks were heavier.

[@4zerking]

***** Personally I think the better advantage of lightweight weapon, something many overlook, is the pain they can deal without doing much damage.

[@titow205]

4zerking In fact, if you receive a hit on the ribs you could easily day from internal hemorragia the next day...That kind of fucked up shit used to happen on rural areas from my country like a century ago, so yes, you can kill with a stick. In other point of view, you could still blow off your enemy's knee, hand and groin, and still yes, that is a real knock out.

[@MasterMhelik027]

A hit in the hands makes blood A hit in the head do explode the eardrums

[@trusevich]

@@titow205 Yes, knees, elbows and ribs are the obvious targets. Intence pain will discourage the offender in no time. Not to mention good blow to the head will deffinitiely knock you out.

[@edouardmarionneau9262]

Actually it might be quite good for self-defense, you may not have all the legal complication if you defend yourself with a canne, but a Stick could be considered as a weapon.

[@sikh70]

If you like this search the sikh martial art ..Gatka

[@水戸藩藩主水戸肛門之]

面白そう。

[@KnuffelBear]

Je pense vu que c'est des batons et non pas armes blanche il serait interessant de le faire sans protection au corps pour plus d'enjeux, de divertissement pour le public (+agilité, esthétique) en plus la douleur fait partie des arts M, mais je ne connais rien en Savate, juste K-1.

[@julien9498]

au delà de la douleur, les coups aux articulation sont réellement dangereux (fractures doigts et ou poignets systématique sur une parade ratée ou une faute), et les frappes au visages dangereuse (le K-1 utilises des gants justement pour frapper aux visages pour protéger des accidents sur les coups à la tête, quasiment aucun sport de combat ne frappe poing nue au visage, alors avec une canne, c'est hors de question car médicalement trop de risques).

[@gonzodozo3271]

Magnifique, mais je comprends absolument rien