Cannibalism & Sapphic Love in Yellowjackets, House of the Dragon, and Jennifer's Body

[@mattlibra3139]

The starved, scavenged and PREYED line has followed me for ages, because Shauna really did tell Jessica the truth

[@ghostafterlivesmatter8732]

I never got that before!!! Really really good find!!!! She did a great job on this video

[@IshtarNike]

Can you please sort out the top comment being a massive spoiler for the show 😅

[@blackk_rose_]

Prayed wouldn't be a lie either. They established a cult and prayed to the wilderness as well as preyed on each other. It's a genius line because it is true in both ways

[@linasayshush]

@@IshtarNike it's in the first scene of the first episode

[@mattlibra3139]

@@IshtarNike the show opens with a girl being hunted, you kind of have to know it’s going to end in cannibalism no?

[@camilla.buitrago]

“While men seek blood and violence, women are born into it” never thought of it that way but it makes so much sense. I loved your analysis

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much

[@muhammadlee-]

But to be honest, it’s kinda cap. At least the violence part, blood I get because pregnancy and menstrual cycles, but violence is definitely more aligned with us (men). You must remember the majority of violent crime perpetrators are men. Even if we’re talking about victimization, most victims of violent crimes are men, I believe about 90% of homicide perpetrators and 80% of victims are men and that’s not including war, which would exponentially raise that figure. Although I do agree that men seek out violence more than women, hence why 90% of homicide perpetrators are men, it isn’t true that for women violence is a bigger part of their lives, it 100% isn’t.

[@muhammadlee-]

@@PacGato But as I already stated, men are more likely to be victims of violence, now could that be as a result of men seeking out violence? That’s definitely possible and even likely much of the time, however, you must consider that on average, men will both experience or inflict a lot more violence within their life than women will. I mean I literally said that men make up 80% of murder victims, making them 4 times as likely to be killed than women. Men are also more likely to be victims of other violent crime such as hate crimes, muggings, being beaten up, etc. The only areas where women are more likely to be victimised is domestic and sexual violence, which obviously is very serious and still significant, but everywhere else men are more likely to be victims of violence. So I don’t really get you saying you disagree since it’s not something you can really disagree with as it is documented within governmental statistics. I also get that you said women will be targeted (violently) specifically because they are women, although I’d really disagree with that and I’ve never found that idea particularly accurate. I mainly mean this in regards to rapists, rapists don’t go after women specifically, they go after what they are attracted to, hence why gay or bi men are much more likely to be victims of sexual violence than straight men. It’s just that most people are straight and most rapists are men, hence women, (excluding prisons) are victimised sexually a lot more here than men. I sort of agree and disagree at the same time, yes a woman wouldn’t have been victimised if she was a man a lot of the time kind of like how when a gay man is assaulted it’s not linked to his gender but rather the perpetrator’s sexual preference. By the way, this isn’t me trying to suggest that men have it worse or shit on women in anyway, I’m just pointing out that violence is more connected with masculinity than femininity.

[@belamin5443]

@@muhammadlee- I was agreeing with you the first part but denying sexism or feminicides is not something you can do, women who suffer violence just because they're women It's not an opinion either, or something you can find "accurate" (being a MAN, say less) Govs literally create laws to protect woman for the violence they're expose to for being women, there are international orgs, and lots of studies about it made by govs or cientific just educate yourself is not that hard

[@muhammadlee-]

@@belamin5443 I already stated I sort of agree and disagree with it coming down to their gender dictating whether or not they’re attacked. I was pointing out its more to do with a perpetrators sexuality, hence why gay men experience higher levels of SA and why gay men usually don’t attack women. Violence against women usually comes down to sexual crimes or, usually committed by someone the victim knows, and spousal abuse. Spousal abuse could come down to the victim being women because gay men suffer less domestic violence and lesbians have the highest instances of domestic violence. I was, however, thinking mainly from a western standpoint, if we go globally I can definitely agree with it largely. This includes honour killings, at one point burning widows alive, acid attacks. You get the idea.

[@Smile-ni9nc]

As someone with a very intense (and toxic) teenage bestie friendship, I go feral for all of these relationships

[@songbird6414]

YES FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO GETS IT

[@olivialeann7963]

Same.

[@dimitriaalves8346]

Saaame

[@KavishkaDeAlwis]

Same

[@Ughitsannuhhh]

ME TOO ME TOO

[@wildcardedits]

39:59 “In each story, the type b friend draws first blood after the pair have given one another a thousand metaphorical cuts” i gasped

[@c0yluvr]

Something i something i loved about the portrayal of jackie and shauna’s relationship was how jackie wasn’t this evil, popular girl who only viewed Shauna as a sidekick, she genuinely cared for her team and for Shauna and that made her feel like a real person. I think Ghost Jackie calling out shauna for comforting Jeff and later sleeping with him after his and Jackie’s breakup despite Jackie having told her they broke up because he was trying to pressure into having sex really solidified that Shauna wasn’t this complete victim of a onesided friendship and was a bad friend too. I think its a lot more real to have these complex female relationships where both girls arent always good people or good friends instead of friendships that are basically good guy/bad guy and its this subversion of female stereotypes that I think Yellowjackets handles so well

[@dontnoticemesenpai6745]

This. Jackie was pushy at times, sure. She could've paid more attention to what Shauna actually liked. However, I think part of the problem was also because Shauna frequently bottled up how she actually felt. In the video, she says Shauna "does not take shit from anyone." But she did pretend a lot with Jackie. It's part of why I think Jackie was said to be "very put off" whenever Shauna said no to her. Shauna had a tendency to just go along with whatever Jackie said, rarely communicating what she truly wanted. The only times she did was while losing her temper at Jackie. Shauna never even brought up Brown and in the scene at 16:48, I always thought Shauna was more annoyed about Jackie telling her that Randy had asked about her (than at Jackie suggesting what to wear). It's sad because in any other case, it would've just been typical teenage girls not knowing how to communicate. NOT a dispute that would lead to one of their deaths. They both had faults in their friendship, but I think if Shauna hadn't been so blinded by her obsession, she might have realized just how important she was to Jackie. EDIT: and if Jackie wasn't so blinded by what she thought was her perfect friendship and perfect high school life (pre-crash), then maybe she would've realized that she and Shauna wanted different things. tragic.

[@aaronmoyano2340]

​@@dontnoticemesenpai6745 Shauna even admits it if you read her diary in the final episode of season 2, she says on quote: "I used to think jackie was the one that made me feel invisible but...."

[@solar2209]

“Consumption translates to consummation” that line is wicked, I love it

[@smallsomnia8167]

I am a simple woman, I see Yellowjackets and Jennifer's body in the same sentence, I click. (thank your for your service)

[@vic3041]

and to this i say, GET INTO THE DRAGON LESBIAN DIVORCE SHOW!!

[@smallsomnia8167]

@@vic3041 I'm waiting for season 3 to air so that I can binge everything 💅

[@lunathemoon64]

Reminds me of this line from Ginger Snaps when Brigitte asks her werewolf sister Ginger is she’s gonna eat the girl that she killed, and she’s like “No, that’d be like f**king her” 😂😂

[@meet-me-at-blue-diner]

is this in the first ginger snaps?

[@cristenkray5192]

As a sapphic with similar intense female friendships in my childhood and teen years, this one hit me HARD and didn’t stop. What I’m really focusing on is how much I identify with these pieces of media that you discussed in this video. I’ve had friends who I was essentially in love with but didn’t understand those emotions, and how devastating it was when those friendships imploded- often due to things like jealousy or betrayal. It’s validating to see that: 1) I wasn’t the only one experiencing these things and feeling them so deeply. 2) there are creators and pieces of media that understand these feelings and represent them in ways that actually give me more closure than those heated fights and angry posts ever did.

[@fxrnx]

SAME! This got me thinking so much about me, like how easy it was to fall for my bff at 15, we already shared so much intimacy, changes, tastes, how when she got a boyf, it hurt me so much, and when we decided to separate for a while for me it was mainly cause I couldn’t separate the friend from the crush

[@takemeseriouslynt]

Just adding to it, Cannibalism, and monster arc have always been an inherent part of the gay culture. Carmila is one of the og vampire story and it is about lesbian romance, also Hannibal (the serie) is very much gay, there is a very good video explaining how gays/queer people, are more likely to fall in love with the monster, because they have been deemed "the monster" by society/ostracised, therefore the difference between them vs the world bridges the gap between them and the monster.

[@loridragon1118]

Even Bram Stoker was (likely) queer in some form, and he wrote, you know, Dracula.

[@malvar-8112]

I wonder if the tragedy of how impossible queer relationships were before these last 100 years has a say on these stories. Almost like it's impossible for a queer couple to be together, so eating one another is a way of becoming one. Besides, monsters and they're satanic undertones may be a way for queer people to punish their sexuality and at the same time it gives hope that, in a strange way, there's a possibility to thrive, except there's a rejection of God. This may be bullsh*t, but I'm just brainstorming on culture and possibilities. What do you think?

[@takemeseriouslynt]

@@malvar-8112 I never thought about this aspect, but I really love your thinking. Personally, I really love over analyzing how religion affects media, and literary tropes, and ever since being into mythology, and monsters, its crazy how when taken less literally a lot of monsters are just stand in for people ostracized by society. And cannibalism and any type of "human" eating monster falls into aspects of taboo, and sex too, like how historically "eating fruits" was an euphemism for having sex so perhaps, eating "someone" became the euphemism for having sex with them, since the sex was considered "already not right". But also if we think about Christianity, there's a pretty big deal about the idea of "Becoming one" and eating one's flesh : Jesus Christ, so I'm sure it might have influenced a lot of people "cannibalistic" tropes

[@Ilikekornflakes]

@@malvar-8112ngl this is the sickest shit I’ve read in commentary about these tropes thus far, in the best way possible.

[@songbird6414]

Suddenly realizing that a ton of other people had intense and toxic almost relationships in high school that ruined their perception of romance afterwards well into adulthood has been wild

[@kiks2925]

Want to add that Rhaenyra and Alicent do have a friendship "necklace", as in the page ripped out of the book on the first episode. it first appears as an act of love, of the want of Rhaenyra to forsake her duty as a princess and to run away with Alicent, for them to live their life together in peace and happiness, together. And when we next see it, some 2 decades later, it's serves as a plea for remembrance, essentially Alicent's message for Rhaenyra to remember their shared love, and also to remember and to understand that Alicent never stopped caring for her, not even then when she stole her throne. I believe we will see the page again, probably when *SPOILERS* Rhaenyra takes the city and Alicent becomes her prisoner. EDIT: yall i'm not saying that alicent and rhaenyra are the most healthy relationship ever or even saying that alicent did nothing wrong and didn't turn her love for rhaenyra into resentment and ire, calm down. I'm just saying that the ripped page serves as a tool for both rhaenyra and the audience to remember the love that was once shared by them (which is undeniable, either if you view it as platonic or romantic, or something else entirely). Also, love is complicated, specially in the circumstances that alicent and rhaenyra were put in, not everything is black and white. Caring ≠ loving, also.

[@boyoso8987]

now let's be real for a second. alicent do NOT love rhaenyra she's just a crazy woman blaming everyone for her issues. she abused rhaenyra for years and then stole her birth right knowing damn well it could put nyra's family in danger. she stopped caring for rhaenyra a long time ago and y'all gotta stop acting like she still does.

[@danielledegeorge2129]

​@@boyoso8987 right. She clearly is jealous of Rhaenyra. She was from the start, first with the rumors about Daemon, and then over Ser Criston, and finally because she's unhappy with Viserys and Rhaenyra still seems to have everything she wants. IMO Alicent wants to BE Rhaenyra, which means consuming and then becoming her. She doesn't love Rhaenyra, she hates her because she wants to be her and she can't.

[@L-xd6eu]

@@boyoso8987No y’all gotta stop acting like she doesn’t, rhaenyra is alicents only true love and true heartbreak, it’s just dark and complicated at the same time

[@danielledegeorge2129]

@@L-xd6eu for one, I would never do to my true love what Alicent is doing to Rhaenyra. Even if I couldn't have him, I wouldn't do anything to hurt him intentionally. On the other hand (hand, get it 😉), your girl, who also likes Ser Criston, would definitely throw you under the bus to get Ser Criston on her side and then steal everything else that is yours. No doubt Alicent doesn't really love Rhaenyra. You don't destroy someone you love because you literally want to be them. A girl will destroy another girl that she is jealous of just like Alicent's doing tho. I bet you that Ser Criston is really Alicent's true love. Her actions scream it.

[@Sabrina-hb9mt]

@@danielledegeorge2129OMG FINALLY THANK YOU i think people are just trying to push this lesbian narrative to excuse alicent of her wrong doings as if she’s this sad closeted innocent girl who just loves rhaenyra alicent didn’t love rhaenyra she was obsessed with her she literally bullied her for 10 years , tried to murder her child , stabbed her in the arm, got her lover killed, and then poisoned her sibling against her which got her & her family killed .

[@lydiaezell6556]

you single-handedly explained to me why i love this genre. i only had terrible best friends growing up.

[@kayyeti3422]

No, this didn’t strike a chord within at all. Losing a best friend hurts more than any breakup with a boyfriend ever has.

[@Bybelial]

If you haven’t yet, you might want to check out Ginger Snaps. It’s pretty much the same concept as this but with sisters who have a blood pact together. When getting her first period the older sister also gets bitten by a werewolf and starts to become bloodthirsty while the younger searches for a cure. One of my favorite movies of all time I find the family relationship so interesting

[@theophilus333]

Not sapphic, but Bones and All is the most potent display I've seen of loving someone so much you have to devour them, to become one in flesh

[@alchemyst1c]

i thought hannibal (the show) was a brilliant contender related to this topic as well :)

[@ducklover200]

jennifer’s body, yellowjackets, and house of the dragon. the holy trinity.

[@milkspicy]

I had a friendship like that growing up. I couldn't get enough of my friend, I felt like I love every atom in her body. Then at 14 she got a boyfriend, transferred over to his school, and later on, didn't invite me to her 15th birthday. No romantic heartbreak will ever hurt like that lol

[@calamari89]

I love Yellowjackets so much. Great video. I was in love with my best friend for all of middle school and high school and always felt like I needed to hug and surround her all the time

[@ghostafterlivesmatter8732]

What happened??

[@nenyeo6090]

Are you ok?

[@calamari89]

@@ghostafterlivesmatter8732 lol update: she did end up dating my older brother and that sucked. But I’m in a freshman in college now and have mostly moved on. I think about her all the time but yk life goes on. I’m glad to have known her

[@risa408]

Had a toxic friendship like this with my best friend in high school, so this trope always hits close to home. We were always telling each other if the other were a boy we'd date, and doing everything together. I was heartbroken when she got a boyfriend, because she never had time for me anymore and wouldn't shut up about him. And then salt would get rubbed in the wound when she would come to me out of the blue for relationship advice, to complain about her bf, or pregnancy scares. Or when we would finally hang out after a while and she would cuddle me and gush about how much she missed me, but also be texting him the whole time cuz he wouldn't leave her alone. She also kept dropping little comments about her being Bi, which confused me as to why we couldn't be more then if we were so close already. She seemed unhappy with her bf most of the time, so why couldn't she see that I was better? I would get so jealous because it felt like her bf stole her from me, as if she were ever mine in the first place. And then I started discovering more about my own sexuality and everything started to make sense about our friendship lol. Sometimes I think back and wonder if we had realised what was going on sooner, if we would have had something. But it probably would have been toxic too, so it's probably for the best we lost contact after high school. Having a relationship like this is a canon event for some of us, unfortunately lmao.

[@hejochh0pp]

I relate so much to this and yeah I kinda feel like it’s a common experience for young sapphics

[@SyntheticRose]

This trope always seemed to me like it showcased the pitfalls of repression rather than the pitfalls of female friendships. It's what happens when love is poisoned by secrets, lies, betrayal, and an inability to be true to oneself. This is why the ending of Jennifer's Body has always been horribly tragic to me. I couldn't understand why Needy, who so clearly loved Jennifer, ended up being the one that killed her. The section of the video about knives was very illuminating to me (at least in terms of solidifying my own head cannons lol). I always read the scene where Jennifer is sacrificed by Low Shoulder as a rape allegory. The knife is used literally and metaphorically for penetration. This interpretation made it hurt more when Needy kills Jennifer almost the same way Low Shoulder did. However, looking back at the scene with the context of this video, I think I can read it differently. Rather than continuing a cycle of violence, the knife in the other stories seem to be used as a last ditch attempt at connection. Alicent charges Rhaenyra with a knife not to kill but rather to mark. To leave a permanent imprint on the one she loves in the only way she can, now that they can never go back to who they used to be. Shauna is guided by her Jackie hallucination to use the butcher's knife again as a way to facilitate their permanent connection. It makes it easier to engage in the act of consumption thus solidifying their bond the only way they can now that Jackie is dead. Needy uses the knife to try to free Jennifer's body from the demon. The only way to return Jennifer to her former self is by literally carving the demon out of her. This act permanently connects their souls even as it severs them physically. In each instance, the relationship is at an end stage, irrevocably transformed from the early days of love. They are all past the point of no return. However, Alicent, Shauna, and Needy can't let go and in their desperation to maintain ANY sort of connection they turn to the knife. One thing that stands out to me the most (and made me want to write this mini essay, sorry lol) is the moment where Needy tears off the bff necklace. I think that moment gave Jennifer enough of a reminder of her love for Needy to fight back against the demon and give Needy the upper hand. Rather than giving up, Jennifer is reaching out to Needy and lets her plunge the knife into her heart thus freeing them both of the demon. It's not a happy ending, but in my mind it is confirmation that Jennifer and Needy loved each other in a way that could even transcend demonic possession. I could literally talk about this all day. Thank you for making this video and feeding into my obsession!

[@MadalynnDelgado]

Tbh I do kinda wish that the Targaryens main thing was cannibalism

[@FeyFire]

I love it

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

Cue the book!Boltons being vampire coded

[@allodme057]

this analysis is incredible and i just want to comment on your "sharing boyfriends" quote at the start of the video! with shauna and jeff, jennifer and chip as well as alicent and ser criston, it feels as a way for those characters to get even closer to their romantic counterparts, it's the closest they can get to being with their best friends in a carnal way and for them to feel even closer. sure, some people might interpret that as jealousy and a desire to be them but in my opinion it is yet another way for them to become one with their object of attraction without actually breaking the taboo of having intercourse with their best friend

[@allodme057]

i'm only a third of the way through the video so you might expand upon this later hahaha

[@Coolingtulip]

Every single sapphic girl has had that experience where we watch out best friend love someone else . And we watch with hungry eyes as our friend loves that person when we would bite and tear and kick and shove and scream to be in that persons place. To be the one SHE loves.

[@Li_Tobler]

Is it weird that I consider myself straight and yet I can relate to this immensely? /gen I can't imagine myself being in a romantic relationship with a woman, and yet this ferociousness and anger are so relatable to me when your b(g)ff finds a significant other, and has less time/commitment for you, you feel them drifting away somehow and it's so frustrating :(

[@Coolingtulip]

@@Li_Tobler no it’s totally normal Dw

[@Li_Tobler]

@@Coolingtulip this put a smile on my face, thank you and have a wonderful evening/day/morning ❤❤❤

[@llll4445]

I relate to this sooo bad

[@strawberryfox8819]

As a sapphic girl, I thankfully haven't had that experience. But that might be because I only really have true friends now, in my 20s. Before that, I was the only one putting effort in and not receiving the same effort back, so I kept people at arms length. Also, none of them were my type, not even remotely.

[@denvorsden7903]

There is an Indian movie called Aamis(2019) that portray the relationship between love and cannibalism in poignant way. It is very underrated.

[@alexarias5717]

This is an awesome video! It was gut wrenching to lose a best friend, even a codependent one. That represented in horror is very interesting. Also reminds me why i was sapphic and not realized back then

[@FeyFire]

Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@prettyspectrum6371]

Girl I was looking for this video. I have been studying cannibalism as a metaphor for stories for a few days, and then I saw this. And it's amazing 👏 It talked abt things I wanted to hear and even things I didn't even realize !!

[@FeyFire]

I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@glowingforthe1654]

The parallels between Jennifer's body and neon Dylan are spectacular if not just in my own brain. The whole concept of you are either sex or food, when your are no longer sex, you become food

[@FeyFire]

I love it, so animalistic 🍖

[@shaydouglas]

This was a masterpiece. As a person who grew up female, it was kind of shocking at first to think about all of the points you made, because of how spot on it applied to my adolescence. Being a girl truly is traumatic.

[@dennile_7355]

Omg perfect timing I’ve literally been rlly been interested about the concept in media of cannibalism being an expression of love and this video was soooo good!! Thank you thank you thank youu

[@FeyFire]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🍗

[@lunaperez5036]

Yellowjackets and JB have the same director, Karyn Kusama

[@MrTwentington]

So good! I noticed that pattern of homoeroticism and cannibalism through a girlie gore lens and I only got as far as thinking “what’s that all about?” So this was such a treat to have it explored and articulated so well

[@kjlucky6501]

It’s actually bizarre to me that my straight friend watched HOTD and said she didn’t pick up on any queer coding/romance between Rhaenyra and Alicent

[@Chosen9038]

Maybe its because not every female friendship is gay.

[@blor3664]

The same genders can be close without wanting to fuck.

[@naomiheart1863]

I feel like it wasn't reciprocate, alicent was maybe in love with raenyra, but raenyra only sees her as a bff who betrayed her, raenyra is straight, alicent? Is a closeted woman

[@GH-fb9dh]

@@naomiheart1863I feel that too. Rhaenyra definetely loved men lol and since she was so sexually freed she would have had a woman lover if she was bi. Alicent definetely loved Rhaenyra

[@maggyfrog]

anyone who has read the book fire and blood will tell you that this is just an internet ship that may have been started by the actors themselves (emily carey and milly alcock), one of whom is a queer person. the showrunners, writers, and certainly george rr martin did not intend on any romance between the two. alicent is much older in the book and they were never actually besties either (this is a change made in the show that works for the show imho) there's nothing wrong with straight women having straight bestfriends, just like there's nothing wrong if one or both are gay. the same way that it's weird when a straight person is "confused" by gay relationships, it's also weird when queer people are "confused" that there are straight people who are actually just friends.

[@heIImiina]

ok finally finished the video. this was great! your analysis is so detailed 😍 I'm planning to write a sapphic horror story with cannibalism in it so this was super inspiring!

[@FeyFire]

thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed it! Good luck with the writing

[@Trepanation21]

"a sapphic horror story with cannibalism in it" -- The true horror depends on the order of events 🥴

[@heIImiina]

@@Trepanation21 maybe find a hobby of your own since you've clearly got too much time on your hands to be a cunt

[@sassylittleprophet]

​@ville__it's really not...

[@CarolinaDuráIzquierdo]

*Spoiler warning* I hope this helps I didn’t think its was that deep my bad Adding to rhaenyra she literally dies by being eating alive by alicent first born dragon’s ( who we know is an extension of him bcs of the dragon rider’s bond)

[@FeyFire]

Excellent point 🍗

[@AJFilms14]

SPOILERS Jk lol

[@alexissimpson5819]

She’s not eaten alive. She is burned first(Dragons do this before eating) and thus already dead

[@alexissimpson5819]

@@FeyFireIt’s a terrible point. She’s not eaten alive. She’s burned first

[@FeyFire]

@@alexissimpson5819 she is cut and the scent of her blood is what entices the dragon to burn and eat her. Jackie was also cooked first... Semantics

[@LoveFromTheHeart27]

As someone who’s experienced these intense female friendships with definite romantic whatever was going on, this whole video is so on point. It’s also heartbreaking. Also, I just wanted to add that I also speculated that Shauna had kissed Jackie’s frozen body and had to pause the video to scream, “I KNEW IT!”, when you also mentioned thinking the same. 😂 Validating, but upsetting for many reasons.

[@manband20]

My biggest gripe against HotD was how the actors (allegedly) didn't share notes on how they played the characters. Young Alicent's actor (Emily Carey) is gay and she said she and Milly Alcock (Rhaenyra) intentionally portrayed their characters as being in love. It's VERY obvious that Rhaenyra is the free-spirited type who would totally defy norms and be with a woman while Alicent is the more conservative type who is trapped in the closet. But then when the characters were handed off to Emma D'arcy and Olivia Cooke, they changed it to being "a couple a' besties :D" because of not sharing notes with the younger actors. They say in interviews that there was some undertones, but they didn't intentionally pull the trigger on making their characters gay. They make that change and every negative interaction between them Season 1 would have been so much better.

[@alexissimpson5819]

I’m glad the gay shit will not be in future seasons

[@moonlightauras1]

The irony of this is that all Emma D'arcy and Olivia Cooke do is flirt in press together.

[@Ughitsannuhhh]

@@moonlightauras1no literally!!

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

​@@moonlightauras1that was the unintentional gay bleed lmao Let them bone already omg

[@BlackFairy-zk7wl]

I think this is why as adults women are so disappointed (especially if dating men ) because our besties treat us so well . Ive bought rings, neclaces , jewelry and made things for my past friends . When I started dating , it was so disappointing because my besties always treated me like a whole princess.

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

Lesbians found a way to remedy that Of course to each their own but... Dating women who are already interested and know you deeply? It's an EXPERIENCE. Probably a traumatizing one too but oh well

[@marii8295]

Freud said That when someone you had put your energy into leaves you, you may end up embodying some of their characteritics/ personality traits in a kinda cannibaliatic way (uncounsciously trying to keep this person close to you).

[@Ughitsannuhhh]

Oh. My. God!!

[@LiterallyMarieee]

No one will understand jackieshauna ever like i do

[@chimchimcher-ee8191]

Dare I say that 2004 Mean Girls could also fall into this category? I think the cannibalism is metaphorical rather than physical there but all the other traits are consistent.

[@sugarbunny666]

Both my best friends impacted me incredibly hard and the emotions where very intense. The first girl became my first love and the reason I found out I was gay but then she abused and assaulted me forever leaving her mark. The second helped me heal through that pain but then when she found someone else she ghosted me suddenly after 8 years and doing that made me develop seizures and put me into the mental hospital. Female friendships are so complicated and scary but also can be beautiful

[@heyitsmira17]

This whole thing reminded me of native tribes from my country (Brazil). I've studied a bit about it both in college and outside of it due to interest, and some tribes did have cannibalistic traditions (anthropophagy, to be more specific), but the interesting part is that they didn't do it because they had to feed themselves and that's it. They believed that, when you eat your enemy, you gain their strength and courage, and part of their soul ( _duplos_ ) lives in you from then on. Not only that, but they believed that the souls of those the enemy killed or ate previously were then able to return home. They were finally avenged. Widows were then able to marry again. Being eaten was also an honor because it meant that you had qualities that your enemies who won combats against you value greatly. Plus, being buried to some tribes was something almost exclusive to the sick. By being eaten, your soul would be able to live on. There are accounts of people letting their war prisoner live in the tribe for a while, sometimes even get involved with a member of the tribe romantically. Thus, the prisoner wouldn't be a complete stranger when eaten, wouldn't have only hatred when ingested. They'd accomodate their soul better in those people's bodies because of that formed connection. After that connection was built, they prepared the feast. They invited neighbouring tribes to the feast and then took off their heads to start the whole dismembering and preparation. Everyone ate that prisoner's meat and it was both a revenge for those this person killed, and a way to incorporate their qualities. I could see many aspects of anthropophagy in what you mentioned in the video.

[@FeyFire]

Thank you for this thoughtful comment! There are similar traditions amongst the indigenous people of the Pacific Northwest (where I grew up) as well, under similar circumstances. I read this amazing book called Hamatsa which explores the cannibalistic traditions of the various tribes along the coast. They too believed that you would take on the strengths and attributes of their enemies by eating them. When they encountered the white man (I believe it was Captain James Cook) they were shocked and disgusted that the white people would just leave their enemies corpse behind, believing it to be extremely disrespectful. I think it's actually quite a beautiful tradition.

[@heyitsmira17]

@@FeyFire it's so interesting, how so many thoughts and traditions of these tribes are similar and connected, even though they were distant and oftentimes spoke different languages. Thank you for the reply! 😊

[@ghostafterlivesmatter8732]

My girlfriend died we were very close in middle school and begging high school we went through similar things. She died when we were 19 heroin overdose. Back when there was heroin.

[@FeyFire]

I'm so sorry for your loss, that must have been devastating 💫 sending you hugs!

[@WhisperingEcho33]

Ginger Snaps comes to mind for me to! Definitely would have fit in perfectly here!

[@chloe-jl5mu]

well that movie is about sisters and this video is about sapphic love so idk

[@wildcardedits]

this feels like it was made for me 😭😭 lovely essay video!

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 💫

[@rachelnoto7686]

Absolutely loved this video essay!!! Such great insights and parallels, and so well written.

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much 💫

[@snoochiemama]

so so good i loved this so much i just wanted to mention that karyn kusama directed both jennifer’s body and an episode of yellowjackets which is a cool cross over!

[@loxmotik]

insane fucking video. thank you so much for putting it all out there

[@FeyFire]

Thanks for watching 🍗

[@elliecoffin616]

I've been waiting to watch this video because I hadn't seen Yellow Jackets and after watching it (Thanks to you btw ty!) I've got to say I loved this video! I 've never thought friendships between women could be that way and how complex they could be. Loving each other to the point of consuming them in whichever metaphorical way you'd want to insert there is crazy, but it makes soo much sense!

[@booterscooch5105]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS THANK YOU

[@josephine-rt6jw]

my worst "break up" was with my codependant female friendship of like ten years

[@rootedm00n]

i’ve been looking for a video like this for a while i love the way you analyzed

[@Alicia-vq8jg]

So is it just like a normal thing to be in love with your girl best friend when you’re a teenager because as a teenager you feel like such a freak

[@kaylaaa6385]

im a simple woman i see lesbian i click

[@humaneature]

love this video because i literally used to cry if my friends were playing with other girls AND had a friend that used to get jealous over me playing with other girls as a child💀

[@BlackFairy-zk7wl]

Girlllbsame ,😭😭

[@heIImiina]

I'm so happy someone made a video about this!!

[@fawnxxoxo]

this was very well written, and helped me to really put into words the way I felt about this trope

[@icecuber3000]

New sub! Such an interesting topic and approach to analyzing it. Coincidentally, the most recent things I've been addicted to reading were all tragic sapphic relationships with a bucket of psychological horror!

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

This was a very very interesting video and a deeper insight into the minds of these characters. Loved the parallels between the different stories and how it weaved itself into each and every show. Kudos to you !

[@whateverworks3383]

Also “The Neon Demon” fits this theme.

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

This video just got me remembering things i thought I'd kept in the back burner. My one and only female best friend in middle school, setting the stage for all the toxic relationships I'd have with my ex-girlfriends. Yes, I know, very freudian of me, but so is consumption as a metaphor for unspoken attraction and love. She was... Popular, immensely so. Good talking her way in and out of trouble. Headstrong, fierce even for being so young. Cami (how I used to call her) was almost magical in my eyes. Everything she did was effortlessly cool, she herself was effortlessly beautiful, and everything she touched turned to gold. Cue me, the more soft spoken of the two, definitely not extroverted. I was the one that coddled the worst of her traits no questions askes, but would throw hands (quite literally) at anyone who dared call her out on them - which apparently also impacted her deeply, because the stories I heard later on? Felt like an echo chamber. Be as it may, I was also good at talking to people, but in a different way, I think. Turns out they like that gentler approach too - people at school adored her because she was funny, and outspoken, bold as hell, but also liked me because I was never one to judge, and offered comfort no questions asked. Reading all of this, you might have guessed differently, but don't think I was the underdog. Type B friends are the ones to take the first bite, to get mean because they are nervous and A is all they care about. The moment she realized people were getting interested in talking to me too, she lashed out. My best friend, at just ten years old, leading a smear campaign that I still have to deal with to this day, more than a decade later. I got bullied for years, even after she left town. And for years I thought she hated me, had always hated me, because why else do something like that? Seeing this video though... What if it was quite the opposite? Jealousy born not out of wanting to be me, but of wanting me all to herself? That's Shauna all over, imo. Strike first, strike harder. Sleep with her boyfriend because he can have a part of Jackie she couldn't ever hope to. Tell everybody all kinds of things that were not even close to the truth, but that they wouldn't question, because who best to know about her than her very own best friend? Hell, we even had our own kid-friendly version of Jeff before it all went up in sh*t. She was so pissed when he started hanging around us more, me more, and all of a sudden she just... Switched. Started hanging around him more than she did me, like it was proving a point. And I responded by doing the same until it seemed like we were fighting over him. Up until now, literally writing this down, I hadn't really made the connection as to why that boy was so interesting to me back then. I'm a lesbian, and me *wanting* him in any way just didn't make sense, even as a kid. Now it does. We were passing him between us, pretty much. I "wanted" him because if he was with me, she couldn't have him. She was mine, and I was hers. Everybody knew that... Even we did, on some level. That boy could be our friend, but to make the two of us a trio? F*ck no. Too bad she moved to Europe and we didn't really keep in touch. I think Cami would have a field day with me dissecting why we had that weird throuple thing going on with him in like seventh grade. And... I think I could totally laugh about it with her now, like its all just some silly little thing we did, and not a massive turning point for the kind of people we'd one day grow up to be. The bullying hurt. The rumors, the things I had to go through, specially knowing she was the one behind it all, was f'cking gnarly. And I know she didn't change that much, that she still has the same dark triad running strong, the same way I'm still too prone to just lay there and take it all without a fight. Yet, if she ever came back, I think I'd let her eat my heart out again, just so she'd finish the job properly this time around. Hm. Maybe some type As are a biiiiit maso. Figures I use Jackie as my pfp right?

[@oksanamanzana]

wow this video was so good!

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much 💫

[@ratt.attack]

insane analysis baddie. love you for this.

[@Ughitsannuhhh]

This video changed my lifffeee!! I’ve been through some “girl gore” lol!! Thank you for making this!!

[@FeyFire]

@@Ughitsannuhhh I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🫶

[@ashy1587]

The book series the locked tomb is a really good sapphic series that has a lot of the same cannibalism symbology, absolutely bonkers series but I definitely recommend

[@dallasisgood]

Nat was not naturally the leader. Lottie was always the leader and Nat is only “queen” because Lottie says so. And even in season 3 people will still do whatever Lottie says.

[@ElianaChinea]

If you really wanna dismantle this topic with just one movie- watch The Descent. It’s epic, all about friendship, love, loss, betrayal, survival, literal back stabbing, cheating, and horror.

[@lunschski7823]

This is so my tears ricochet coded

[@carriesnaps3508]

Well, I can't say that I've ever had such strong feelings for my best friends (despite loving them to death) nor I do watch shows/movies with cannibalistic elements involved (unless it's supernatural like Jennifer's Body or Ginger Snaps), but this was *extremely* interesting! Like, I've seen anyone making a connection between these two topics. Great work! :))

[@EmyN]

Be right back, gotta watch Yellowjackets before watching this

[@nenyeo6090]

This was a really good analysis of all three shows. I only knew of HOTD, so thanks for the introduction to the other shows. And I def like this genre as well.

[@annieeames2282]

Thank you KZbin for bringing me this video. This explains too much. I love it.

[@veritasinvicta8128]

An esoteric look into HOTD? Interesting. I'm wonder if The Vigilant Citizen has done anything on it but I appreciate the fresh perspective from something I have missed.

[@aurasanabria6071]

this is a video i've been looking for and never knew existed..

[@brandonbutler7204]

Absolutely loved this. I'm more familiar with 'House of the Dragon' than the other two, but based on this great essay, I was wondering if how each scenario differed in regards to betrayal might have been worthy of calling out, because they seem to fall into very basic categories that neither of the other two do. And the three cover different affects of real life, I think. Please correct where the below might be wrong: 1. In Jennifer's Body, there is no betrayal between the women. Needy is always true to Jennifer as the friend she was. It was instead a literally corrupting influence of specific men who came along and corrupted the situation. After that happens, Jennifer is no longer really Jennifer anymore. It's a straight-up zombie horror, or mourning of a friendship that other people (men) destroyed. The speculative threat reflects the external. 2. In Yellowjackets, it's absolute betrayal. Yes, there were strains beforehand, but Shauna straight up betrays the friendship well before the two are put in a dire situation. That situation merely exacerbates what was already there. Yes, men play a part, but only as an extension of what's destroyed the relationship. There are fissures throughout, but there's two key breaks: when Shauna sleeps with Jackie's boyfriend before they're in trouble, and when Shauna effectively kills Jackie by sending her into the cold. The speculative threat reflects the internal. (PS: and unlike all the others, Shauna is a horrible person. Just sayin') 3. In House of the Dragon, it's more complex. There's no one or two supreme betrayals, and no one external man, group of men, or other force at play. It's all of it combined. It's a process that takes years to happen and the clear majority of it is out of their control. And yes, the majority of the stresses is from a system mostly built by men, but not entirely, and both Alicent and Rhenerya played their part within that system. But it's more like King Lear, where almost everyone winds up more "sinned against than sinning" and it would have taken a greater amount of resolve to avoid what happens than the average person possesses. There's many waves of minor 'betrayals' greater than the 0 level seen in Jennifer's Body, but nowhere near the level of Yellowjackets, followed by more than one attempt by both to salvage what they had. Like GOT before it and how it was similar in it's best seasons to 'The Wire', the speculative threat represents society itself.

[@mokachoco89]

Amazing essay! Loved your analysis and observations :) great job!

[@lexxwippel]

you!! I paused this hole video and DOVE no arms scull first into yellowjackets.. its been maybe 26 hours.. I. L O V E D. IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

[@FeyFire]

😂 amazing! 👏

[@Mandolin523]

Yayyyy welcome to our HIVE

[@angelguerrero6446]

Obsessed with this video. Good work!

[@amariswilliams7109]

i wish i could get this video tattooed, it’s so good

[@astrasillage]

Wow, I sat through this with rapt attention. This was very very interesting.

[@jackielizzette]

my best friends name is SHAUNA and IM JACKIE.... but we are not toxic at all beenfriends for 10 years pretty much but this is so funny to see ive never heard of this show or movie lol

[@ToplessTopics]

This video was really good. I was hesitant to watch it as I haven't gotten around to watching yellowjackets yet and haven't fully finished house of the dragon (though honestly the incest is too ick for me to really get through) but even though you revealed overarching plot elements, I'm sure there's plenty of other parts that would still be plenty surprising. As for intense female friendships, I'm afraid I have no idea what those feel like...I was horribly bullied throughout the vast majority of my childhood, and what few friends I did have were mostly nerdy, rather toxic (especially later) boys. I did have one female best friend for a few years, but it was a fraught relationship as she would frequently date emotionally if not physically abusive guys, and of course make excuses for them if I ever pointed out how toxic they were. Years ago she moved across the country with one of the abusive boyfriends and that was the last I ever heard of her..but hey, at least we didn't end up killing or eating each other, so that's a win XD

[@thealphafox64]

44:38 I think the knife has another layer of symbolism as the tool (for the type B-friend) to metaphorically cut themselves away from the person they depended on. It could also signify a struggle for control over their lifes as it can literally end someones life giving the wielder a large degree of control over their environment. It is empowerment but at the ultimate cost of life as both parties inevitably die once their bond is severed, not unlike parties of a symbiotic relationship that are physically dependent on the other. Quiet poetic really

[@Perpetual_stew_]

This is beautifully written because so many people can relate to this… in middle school I had an extremely toxic best friendship with a girl I was deeply in love with (or so I thought at the time) and I was the horrible toxic one. Still think about it sometimes and wonder if she’s okay after it ended catastrophically just before high school and she moved.

[@Stupidtacocatstuffgrr]

I was in one of these friendships- but I was like- a weird 3rd limb. Where I was a bestie but only when the other more fun one wasn’t available. It just was very one sided and I realized I hated them later Like I am a lesbian and I deeply despised how much they never had my back the moment a boy was involved

[@CrustaceanQueen]

FINNALLY, someone talking about Yellowjackets

[@FeyFire]

I gotchu 🐝

[@trycijcks]

Thank you for the video and thank you everyone for the comments, nevere felt so seen

[@imjustagirrl_]

THIS IS GREAT I LOVE IT

[@Eruanne]

Needy wasn't a virgin. She wasnt nearly as sexually active as Jennifer and had only been with Chip but it was pretty obviously implied when Chip was awkardly asking if they could hook up again not for the first time. Don't know how that changes your theory for that film but yeah just FYI. 😊

[@FeyFire]

I humbly disagree ☺but encourage this conversation

[@susanstorm7910]

@@FeyFirety

[@assiv4k]

i don’t think they had had penetrative sex, i think they had done other things but not all the way-

[@hannahbun]

please i need to watch the full version of the rachel sennott ella purnell jennifer's body

[@FeyFire]

Here you go darling: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKK5oX6gbc18hrcsi=dUNTzW8s-1K9jDIN

[@MedusaGhost-ed]

All I know is I need some book recs if there's ANY that fall in this category.

[@billie7745]

11:26 Rachel sennott what are you doing here 11:46 ella fucking purnell? What in the multiverse is going on

[@FeyFire]

The trifecta - Rachel Sennott + Ella Purnell doing a live reading of Jennifer's Body

[@billie7745]

@@FeyFire thank you for your work for the sapphics. I've been waiting on a video that talks about homoerotic friendship and Cannibalism

[@sunshinee7556]

That movie Bones and All is also a great example of this 💯

[@zfaz8757]

this essay was cathartic for me. i consider myself pansexual but i never fully understood why i was so deeply attached to these characters in the show now i realize it's because i see myself, they resonate with me. for me this essay is like a revelation. it turns out that what i thought was friendship was love all this time

[@FeyFire]

@@zfaz8757 🩵🩵

[@morgane.1204]

When i tell you i panicked thinking i had missed a scene in house of the dragon, before i realized what scene you were refering too 😂😂😂

[@xsomili5501]

14:57 dam that hits kinda hard TT

[@jestemkluska9743]

I love Yellowjackets. Somehow, it's my comfort show 😦

[@hyalins]

sorry but i don't get how cannibalism ties in with rhaenicent, other than with some ooc-tweaking. neither of them would want to consume the other, even if alicent loves rhaenyra she wouldn't want to "own" her that way

[@rgw10810]

Yeah I 100% agree, it feels a little out of place compared to the other two examples, which both involve the consumption of blood/flesh. I was actually anticipating for the argument to be that as the spouse draws blood to drink in the Valyrian wedding ceremony, Alicent draws blood in her attack, but doesn't get to consume it as she cannot be with Rhaenyra in a marriage. I still think that's a bit of a stretch, but less unrelated than what we got here.

[@hyalins]

@@rgw10810 i totally agree, the closest thing there was to it was this attack and its connection to the traditional targ wedding but i don't believe that had the same poetic/metaphorical implications of "consuming the other," it was mostly done out of anger and jealousy

[@xsomili5501]

the first part of the video (wher eim currently accurately describes a novel i just finished: The Falling Girls