Canon 5DS & 5DSR Review: Wildlife Photography

[@TonyAndChelsea]

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[@mdk1983]

The way you speak is very soothing. Shows your respect for nature, the forest and it's true inhabitants. Your knowledge on the extended canon product line is great. The graphs are helpful. The photo of the eagle flying away with it's catch looks brilliant. Subscribed to your channel for all these reasons. Keep going!

[@ThePanacon]

This is a great piece of advice for the photographer whose interested in nature and animal life photography. Thumbs up for this helpful video. Thanks Tony.

[@albertlugosi]

I am amazed by each and every sample image in this video.

[@smaakjeks]

Wow, I loved this video, Tony. You all dressed up in your murder suit, explaining the details as neat graphs pop up. I appreciate the effort in increasing the production value! Well done!

[@jiridvorak]

This guy if best review...No soap opera,no trolling,no promotion of something bad...he just make good reviews and say you what buy and what not touch

[@ThreeCeeProductions]

I'm so glad you made the closing comments. Cameras are tools. The one you need is dependent on what you want to use it for. I have a 5dII for events but for Birding the 7dii is the best camera I've used. The auto focus is amazing and mated to the 400 5.6 it does a great job.

[@BenMensah]

Great Video Tony.

[@StillFingers]

Wonderful debrief, Tony, this is one of many fave videos, well done! Looking forward to more about these monster mega pickle bodies...

[@Potato-adept]

Where is Tony? I can´t see him

[@EMB386]

Great review Tony, I have been shooting some wildlife with my 7D Mark II and a used 400mm F/4 DO prime with 1.4x extender. Getting great results and I did not have to spend the Canon $10K tax for a heavy 500mm and above.

[@Wsmith247]

Thanks for the the great video, i started taking my camera along with my bow and find myself shooting my camera more and more.

[@ZaberAnsaryOfficial]

Whoa, How is just a camera floating mid air with Tony Northrup's voice? Spooky

[@clickonmike]

Yeah! Spoooooky.

[@telemaq76]

i enjoy to see your review of 5dsr for landscape photography

[@20centurymodern]

Enjoyable review and views Tony Northrup When you say "the previous generation" regarding the 5DM3, I understood that the 5Ds isn't replacing the 5DM3? I may have misunderstood your comments, all the best.

[@ronin_11b94]

I can see myself shooting wildlife with the 5dsr and a good lens like the canon 600mm f/4 ii and get way better quality images than a 7D markii. 5fps is good enough to capture a moving life.

[@jonerdmann6512]

Thanks Tony, being a wildlife photographer and yes birds in flight this isn't the camera for me.. I'm currently using a 7D Mark II with a EF 100-400 5-5.6 L IS II USM / 1.4X teleconverter and a 70-300 4-5.6 L IS USM as well for what I do. I had been looking a full frame cameras lately to add to what I use. Thanks again for a great product review.

[@MrCombuster]

Is it just me or they just shot empty jungle with voice??? WHERE IS TONY?

[@vnitto]

I think this camera is intended for the studio work and product photography. Wildlife seems better suited to 7d Mark II.

[@smaakjeks]

vnitto I've considered getting tele-extensions to go on my 5d3 (+ my lovely 70-200 f2.8 IS2 or 400mm f5.6), but I might just save up for the 7d2 instead. Having 2 bodies handy would be very convenient anyway, and those extra fps and pixels for wildlife would just about be worth the investment. I would not get the 5dsr, unless I lived in, and worked for, a safari business in Tanzania. EDIT: I got a tele-extender 2x Mark 3 from Canon, gently used.

[@owenbelanger8589]

5DSR is like a landscape camera, its legendary

[@forsterl.stewart414]

Several pro photographers will disagree... the wildlife images with the 5 dsr and detail captured is fantastic. And frames per second mean nothing if you're an experienced photographer. I captured thousands of images with film cameras like the canon a1 and eos 3 and their frame rate was only like 5 to 6 fps the canon a1 wasn't even auto focus , I would choose the right time at peak action and fire. With practice great images followed. Digital newbies might need 10 to 14 fps. Arther Morris loves the 5dsr he only uses 2 5dsr's , 1...7d mii and 1... dxmii so you tell me which he prefers. I use the 5dsr with fantastic results. Cropped RAW images are still full of detail and resolution also reproducing nice prints.

[@BlackAndBlue757]

really good video, very informative.

[@johnnevin5706]

Thankyou for your review on 5dsr

[@tptrsn]

Wow, kickass focus pull at 1:54!!! Nice work Justin! I take it you shot this on the GH4, which lens did you use for the majority of the Tony talking shot? Sometimes I'm just not sold on the image quality of the GH4 for stuff like this unless I shoot in 4K and then squeeze it down to 1080 or 720...

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Hammerhaus Kennel We shot this with the a7S + Shogun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4vYqaJoj6utlck Most of the shots were with the Canon 16-35 f4.

[@tptrsn]

Tony Northrup Thank you Tony! Seems I was indicting the GH4 undeservedly. :) I guess I feel similarly or worse about the a7S in 4K than I do about the GH4 then... Even worse I guess since it's an external recorder and 4x the filesize or whatever...

[@nagol5178]

My A7R is my landscape camera but I'm looking forward to the Canon 5D Mark iV so I can get an auto focus to shoot things quickly. I sold my Canon 5D Mark iii. I'm happy with the A7R but I miss that auto focus.

[@PeterPauer]

Interesting review, and seems to fit in with what Canon has said about their new high megapixel bodies. That they are specialized tools probably best suited to a studio environment. Sad to see they came up with a mega whopper of a new sensor, but again failed to address and close the gap in dynamic range, ISO performance or noise that Nikon/Sony have set the bar too. Fingers crossed a new 5d mk-iv appears soon and manages to close the gap and address some of those issues.

[@LDam-pf6lx]

MrKdr500 "Dynamic range is only a problem for people who cant get the photo setup properly in camera & need to fix it in post." So, any landscape photographer, ever? Heck, any outdoor photographer in general. Edit: I almost forgot my own trade: Wedding photography! Dark churches with highlight detail in the windows. Thank you for reminding me why I switched to Nikon.

[@claritovirata3504]

Hoping you make a review with Canon 90D thanks

[@arongatt]

with that buffer and 5 fps , no one will doubt you .... but i believe this cam will be a monster for studio shots , its the closer you can get to medium format and in a small body compared to those cams... hopefully canon will push out some glass for it that can make those pixels shine ( not that canon dont have any glass tho) cant wait for your test on this beast.

[@lobsterlipps]

I have the Sony A77mkii and it has both faster frame rates and better buffer then 7dmkii. The big sony lens cost me a fortune but its a great setup for wildlife.

[@philg6757]

Thanks T.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Phil G My pleasure, P.

[@philg6757]

Tony Northrup Say hello to C for please T.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Tony Northrup I saw the dynamic range. It looks very good. I have read is that not yet to the D750 range but it close. Do you agree? You can get a 500mm lens for you medium format, and it's not expensive but: It's slow and it's manual focus only, so your point stands. I will look at your D810 vs Canon review, maybe you include your opinion on the DR. Thanks

[@OkyanusAskn]

Aside from the video, it was very educational, how do you manage your lav mic to be so great? Sounds like there is almost no gain,noise, but when you speak it hits the 0db spot perfectly. Can you tell me if there is a tutorial how to do this?

[@nicolaismaginable]

As always, great tutorial!

[@johnrussell593]

I have a full frame with 4.5fps for a small business (not portraiture or weddings, no interest there for me). I like to do wildlife and sports (Grandkids) as an interest. The 4.5 frames is too slow for the grandkids sports (Hockey and Baseball). I can not find a video or website page comparison of 4-5fps vs 7fps vs 10fps???? Listening to a shutter sound does not help. Saying the faster the better doesn't help as there are other factors that can be involved example 'The focusing system and how well you know the camera'. How can the 5Ds(R) be good for wildlife? Great videos. Good content and explanations.

[@robertneill5511]

Thanks for another good review... Tony have you ever used the Sigma 300-800? I haven't been able to find to many independent reviews.

[@TonyBordignon]

Tony.. In your list of recommended lenses you didn't mention the F2.8 lenses, like 300 or 400 mm. Why?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

They're rather short for wildlife. With a teleconverter you can definitely get good results, but for that money, just get a longer lens.

[@TonyBordignon]

Thanks!! :D

[@TimLucasdesign]

Amazing review - thank you! I had no idea when upgrading to full-frame, my old 7D would have some advantages. Living close the Smoky Mountain National Park, I've always focused on Landscapes but have recently felt the urge to pursue nature photography. I do have a Fuji XT-10 which produces gorgeous pictures, but I'm certain the focusing system in Mirrorless cameras are not nearly adequate for this kind of work.

[@johnmichaelleslie4835]

Are you sure the 5Ds/r AF isn't as good as the others you mentioned, it seems to have all the latest Canon goodies including the 150,000-pixel RGB+IR metering sensor, which is what you want on a Canon? Also the T6 cameras surely have quite a bit worse AF? I'd certainly agree on the burst rate though. I do wonder if they stopped saving the whole sensor data (for Raw) in the crop modes if they could get the rate up though (or at least the buffer space, something like 24MB/image vs. 60MB)?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

John Leslie It's the same AF system from the 5D Mark III, which is great for moving subjects. The T6 cameras definitely have worse AF; for still subjects like perched birds, One Shot has worked well for me, but I'd push you to a used 7D for moving subjects.

[@johnmichaelleslie4835]

Tony Northrup Are you sure, I thought the 5Ds had a 150k sensor it could use for tracking which the III didn't (i.e. EOS iTR AF)?

[@Pepingco]

John Leslie iTR is for infrared light - so it tracks the difference in IR light hitting the AF sensor - This is specifically important in low light AF and in high contrast AF - so a bird in the sky it can track real easy, but not so useful when you are trying to track a bird among trees - you have to rely on the other elements of the AF.

[@johnmichaelleslie4835]

Poet Productions That isn't my understanding at all. The Canon info describes the 150k pixel sensor as being sensitive to Visible and Infrared light ("RGB+IR") and its uses as including face detection and tracking, also general tracking using using colour information... Plus it's used for the metering, so wouldn't be much use if it was IR only. www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-5ds/canon-5dsA.HTM "the Canon 5DS utilizes the new 150,000-pixel RGB + IR metering sensor introduced on the 7D Mark II. This is a notable improvement from the iFCL 63-zone dual-layer metering sensor used on the 5D Mark III (and the 1D X's 100,000-pixel RGB sensor)." "The 5DS uses the 150K-pixel metering system to combine face detection and color information with the phase-detect AF sensor to help track subject movement." photo.stackexchange.com/questions/16499/what-is-eos-itr-af "The default AF mode for the EOS-1D X uses phase detection AF information, but the secondary option uses the face and color detection of the iTR AF. This feature is achieved by using information from the RGB metering sensor as part of the AF system." So in summary I do think the overall AF system on the 5Ds/r is an improvement on the 5DIII and possibly the 1Dx, although it's hard to compare the effect of the 1Dx's dedicated AF processor with whatever hardware you get in the 5Ds' dual Digic 6s.

[@Pepingco]

John Leslie That was exactly my point. The 5DsR has the same AF as the 5D3 - but it includes IR ontop.... So the only advantage over the mk3 is the IR ability.... the original metering sensor has phase detect we know already with face detection etc I am only pointing out the difference between the new one and the old one. Nowhere in my orignal reply did I say you were wrong, I was only pointing out the main advantage of the new AF system, and in practice it really doesnt do much. I even said in my last sentence of the original reply - IR doesnt do a whole lot and you gotta rely on the rest of the AF system which is the RGB and the phase etc... but even then, Canon hasnt made any press releases about the new system - I dont know.

[@1717jbs]

Great info. Thanks.

[@churchill7302]

I think you made a mistake at 1:50 you say the 5DSR has no anti-aliasing filter. But im pretty sure it has one. it just cancels the effect of it "

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Winston Hong yeah, that's the official language. I'm not sure how the magic works, but it's SHARP.

[@smaakjeks]

Winston Hong So, what on earth does the filter actually do?

[@churchill7302]

***** Its an Anti-Aliasing filter which pretty much prevents the effects of moiré and false colour. In both Video and Stills. The down side is that the filter makes images not as sharp. I think the Nikon D7100 was the first camera to introduce a true " no anti aliasing filter ". The Nikon D800E claimed it didnt have one, ( thats why you needed to pay a bit more vs the D800) but it still had one it just magically " cancels it out somehow". So its the same deal with Canon : 5Ds still has an anti aliasing filter. Same as all the Canon ever release. But the 5DsR still has the filter. Its just canceled out. But not actually removed completely, and you need to pay more.

[@smaakjeks]

Winston Hong Yeah, I know what an AA filter does, and the pros and cons. So, my question remains: if the filter is cancelled out, what does it really do? :D

[@churchill7302]

***** Oh my bad. Sounded like you didnt understand the AA filter. And well its still there to reduce the Moire and stuff. Its just Canon hasnt figured out how to get rid of it completely yet and not get alot of Moire. So they need to just say " cancels the effects" until they figure it out. But regardless its still there so its still going to be affecting the sharpness since its still actually there. It will probably be gone when the 5DS MK2 or whatever the newer generation will get called gets released. ( Not staying it not sharp now, just saying without it, it can be even sharper )

[@adrianak.91]

the 760i can also do 3X lossless movie zoom by picking the center pixels, that is 3 times longer zoom for video for free，1080P 250mm crop lens times 1.6 times 3 = 1200mm for video, that is x24 magnification try finding a 1200mm for a full frame camera, you will need a gorilla to carry the lens, crop is much better for wildlife

[@christopherhowell3209]

Please explain how a cropped body can pull out more detail than a full frame camera!!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

+Christopher Howell Here ya go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3XFhnycd5qMi8U

[@iSOBigD]

+Christopher Howell I think the shorter explanation is if you have a full frame camera and a crop camera, both shooting at say, 16 MP with the same 200mm focal length...On the crop, you're actually getting around 300mm so if you zoom in and take a picture of a bird filling up the entire frame, that's closer to 16 MP of actual bird pixels. On the full frame camera the bird would take up maybe 2/3 of the screen, so closer to 11 MP of bird pixels. If you then print both pictures (or look at them) at the same size, the crop camera's picture should seem more detailed. I think that's the main reason people use crop cameras for nature photography, they get more zoom and more pixel density for the bird or animal. If you were to crop digitally, you'd lose part of the image and end up with less pixels used to render the subject. That's not to say you can't just walk closer with the full frame camera and get the same detail, but generally animals get scared more and birds are in trees so you don't have the option.

[@christopherhowell3209]

+iSOBigD Yes I quite understand what you are saying,...however,as the aperature is efeciively stopped down on the cropped camera hence letting less light, how can one expect finer detail? I have the canon 70 D and a 5dmk3, and, when using a 400mm f2.8 mk2 lens on both cameras,the picture quality is by far ,better on the full frame camera!

[@iSOBigD]

Christopher Howell It should be due to how much light it takes in, the depth of field, quality of the processor and sensor, etc. The FF ones in theory should always have better quality images, but only when comparing the exact same subject taking up each of their frames. If you compare a 1.5x crop image vs the same image taking up 50% of a full frame camera frame, then you're comparing a full image to half an image, so the second one will lack detail. Now if you compare a 50mp FF camera to a 10mp crop, that won't apply.

[@ProgamerEU]

have you tested the dynamic range of the 5dsR vs the d810 yet?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

In the landscape video coming Tuesday.

[@johnlee3050]

Tony I want to ask if the d810 is a better wildlife camera than the 5dsr, because nikon has a 1.5x crop instead of 1.6 on the canon. So when you are using crop mode on both of these cameras, the d810 has about 24 megapixels while the 5dsr has about 20 megapixels. The d810 has 7fps when using crop mode and a battery pack, while only 5fps on the 5dsr even on crop mode, the d810 also has a larger buffer. What did you think?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

John Lee Generally we crop wildlife photos in post so the native crops of the APS-C bodies in the lineup don't impact the full-frame sensors. BTW, you have to divide by the crop factor squared, so the D810 at 1.5X is 16 megapixels. The 5DS-R at the same crop is 22 megapixels. So for the D810, if you have to crop anyway, you're way better off using a D7200. But the buffer problems on the 5DS-R are a real problem. I've been using it for perched birds, but I wouldn't use it for flying birds.

[@stevek5239]

This maybe more than I am supposed to ask but thought why not ask? I'm going to Churchill to spend a week on the Tundra Buggies to photograph Polar Bears (and arctic foxes if they are around) I'm bringing my 1D Mark IV with my 70-200, 200-400 and 800 lenses but need to rent a back up body. I'd rather not splurge on the 1DX. Was wondering what you'd think of bringing the 5DS R along with the 1D Mark IV to use on the trip. Or should I save $200 and go for the 7D II. Will probably never be back so rather do it right and maybe should just rent the 1DX. Thoughts?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

+Steve K You won't need 10 fps for these subjects, so I'd bring the 5DS-R. As a follow-up to this video, I find myself grabbign the 5DS-R more than the 7D Mark II for wildlife. Anytime I'm shooting flying birds, I'd definitely want the 7D Mark II, but i've been doing more still birds lately.

[@stevek5239]

Thanks!! By the way, love the videos. Thanks for the videos as well!!

[@ThinkCriticallyNow]

I wonder whether the "Angry photographer" will pull this to pieces as well. That guy is such a troll.

[@ThinkCriticallyNow]

Kyle Medina Totally agree. Know it all that spends all his time saying that he doesn't do it for money yet every video he has, has an annotation at the start asking for donations. Irony much?

[@Chrismzeller]

Superformance72 I watched maybe half of one vid from that guy and gave up. In the last weekly you guys were talking about how nice Rec Toby is and immediately I thought of that "Angry Photographer" douchebag. Keeping things positive is definitely the way to go.

[@Pepingco]

Superformance72 To me he sounds too "Holier than thou" as if he is some kind of Authority. At least with Tony, I may not agree with a lot of things he says, I can respect his views because he has worked as a Tech for decades and has a strong math background that he applies to his reviews etc. The Angry Photographer is just some guy who used to work at a shop and then called himself an Authority. He is a very rude commenter as well.

[@ThinkCriticallyNow]

Poet Productions Yeah mate, exactly. I find the Angry Photographer very cliche.

[@zvxcvxcz]

Superformance72 Don't get him started on physics, he's actually blocked me on KZbin for trying to correct him about the reasons primes often perform better than zooms. His claim was that it boiled down only to the amount of glass and tried to back it up with the book he wrote on.... basically bullshit pseudo-physics. His math background isn't as strong as he pretends it is, he just puts up a front and gets away with it because most people haven't studied much math.

[@pplanetEarth]

One point that I see you don't mention about 5DSR buffer size is the amount of data that is being transferred to the SD card. When shooting raw with 50 megapixel resolution, one image would be around 70mb in size, 5 raw images would be about 350mb (hence more data to be transferred from the buffer to the SD card). Now if you compare this with a 20 megapixel camera (with raw files of about 30mb), 5 images would be 150mb (less than half data to be transferred). Now if you put this into perspective with the little progress that has been made over the last few years on mbps data transfer speed in computer hardware as opposed to other developments (shear storage size, processors, etc), I could understand why Canon wasn't able to increase the fps of this camera.

[@Justentime77]

Hey Tony, what are your thoughts on the 5DMKIV?

[@JohnsTinyWoodshop]

You own more camo than I do, which is none. But seriously, what prime lens would you recommend as a foray into wildlife photography? That 400mm f/5.6?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

JohnsHouseofFun Yeah, that's the usual recommendation (sdp.io/c400). This video can help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opjYo3qfmdSGgNU

[@aravindcheekuttan4169]

Hi tony love your reviews. Please try to review the Nikkor 200-500 f5.6. waiting for your review of this for long time.

[@rampart6543]

Nice video. It's a shame though that we do not see you in action, Tony. A new video of Tony shooting birds :-)

[@chrisogrady28]

Woah, all I can see is a couple of levitating bodies with no lenses amongst the wilderness! Tony must be in camo or something! I enjoyed this video, I'd like some more wildlife prime lens videos for non Canon EF. As you mentioned once there isn't an equivalent of the 400 5.6 in the Nikon world, so it'd be cool to have a roundup of Nikon options besides the Sigma 150-600. At the moment I'm looking at trying a 300 f4 and 1.4 teleconverter, want something that will resolve as much detail as I can on my D750.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Christopher O'Grady We are planning a roundup of Nikon wildlife lenses; we're just a bit behind on our videos...

[@yousefphotos]

hi tony .. thank you for all your reviews .. i have canon 6D and i use it for every thing ,, i'm thinking to buy canon 80D .. you think it will match the 6D picture quality !? thanks

[@ssmith278]

Why did you include 5DS in the title? It seems you only talked about the 5DS R.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

They're exactly the same camera. The 5DS is just slightly less sharp than the 5DSR.

[@graham68ktm24]

Tony i have an original 7d and use it for macro , milkyway timelapses and everything in between ! i an looking at getting a FF camera but am wondering if 5dsr would be good for macro and motorsport photography and would the ISO performance be better than my7d which i think is really poor ! i like the idea of the new 5d mk4 but think the resolution of 5dsr would be great ? torn between 5dsr and 5d mk4 !

[@jonathandarts1956]

As a landscape photographer I'd like to see your 5DS R review. Unfortunately, I can not find the video. Do you have a direct link? Thank you.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Jonathan Smith It's live now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faKWeoaLfdiZqbM

[@jonathandarts1956]

Tony Northrup Thank you very much as I really enjoyed that review.

[@gurudeclan]

I was lead to believe the dynamic range was only a marginal improvement over 5d3..

[@jeffdhall]

Nice piece on the new canon.....

[@shogenx]

I think ill stick with my A77mkII cost me like half the price and has yet to let me down... the auto focus and 12fps aswell with a high buffer amount is one of my faves for anything wildlife but thats my personal use and opinion

[@Fotosnegociosnet]

I thought the 5Ds/5Dsr were studio cameras, not wild life.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Fotosnegocios.net That's basically the conclusion we came to during the review.

[@dmlchannel3262]

Tony Northrup I'm largely a landscape photographer, but as an outdoorsman, I appreciate the beauty of wildlife and want to captures these type images as well. With a battery grip, which I usually use anyway, in crop sensor mode on my Nikon D810, I'm able to capture 7 fps... which works very for my occasional need. As a sports or wildlife camera, I don't think there is another camera out there even close to the abilities of the Canon D7 Mark II. It's so good, I wonder if the Canon 5D Mark IV will be little more than a full frame version of the same camera.

[@forsterl.stewart414]

Wrong.

[@justaghop]

What are you thoughts of shooting in 4K at 30 fps and then capturing the individual frames that you like? Set the shutter speed as fast as you want (or is practical) and then you have much less chance of missing a shot. I know that it is "only" 8 megapixels capture but hey whats more important?... eh?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

justaghop It can work! I'll say that rolling shutter can be a problem, and you won't be capturing raw data, but it can be useful.

[@zvxcvxcz]

justaghop Exactly what Tony said, I know of a few people doing this with the NX1 now for photojournalism and I think someone was doing it for horse races where the camera can be much closer than the photographer during the race.

[@perfectforehand]

I know the 5DSR has an insane number of mega pixels, but don't APS-C cameras retain more detail in the centre of the frame, which is key when cropping wildlife shots?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

perfectforehand Not in the case of the 5DS-R. It's the same camera to have the same pixel density as most APS-C cameras, including the 7D Mk II, 70D, and all the Nikon & Sony APS-C cameras.

[@zvxcvxcz]

Tony Northrup But less than the NX1 :P I finally have it now, I also picked up the Canon 400mm f/5.6. I'm currently using the new Canon lens on the old 5D Classic now for birds in flight and the NX1 with Samsung 50-200 for closer grounded birds. The focus on the 50-200 is a little slow, I've considered the Samsung 18-200 (which has a pretty unique and very fast AF due to using a voice coil motor) but I see the sharpness of the 18-200 is unfortunately quite bad (they designed it for video... so I guess they figured it was enough for the 1080 of the time, maybe even for 4k, but apparently not for stills). I may consider going NX1 only if they ever get around to releasing that 300mm f/2.8 they showed off at Photokina. The 150 of that 50-150 f/2.8 S lens just isn't enough.

[@KrolPuszczy]

Witam doradz mi bo mam problem niewiem które body canona kupic po canon 7d mam niewiele kasy fotografuje wyłacznie przyrode mozesz doradzic co bys konkretnie wybral 7dmarkII 5ds czy 5dsr albo 5d mark IV ???????????????????????

[@raymondcook8364]

Hi: I just bought the Canon 5DS camera and switched from JPG to RAW. But the photos won't transfer to my 128 GB SD card to transfer them to my computer. WHY? Thank you.

[@s_alfred8597]

Hello.. i have a canon 1DMarkIV camera. Do you think it is suitable for bird photography or should i go to newer camera.... thank you.

[@michaelcampbell5567]

I have a nikon d5200 and a collection of lens including a 18-270mm tamron and a 800-1600 opteka zoom. I install Osprey Nest Structures for the IL DNR Osprey Recovery Effort and just need it for surviellence of nests and taking ok pictures. The zoom out at 1600mm is F32 and I'm struggling to get good shots (iso 800 and 1/320 shutter speed). Is there an "old school" manual fixed 800mm plus telephoto I could use with a reasonably low F rating? Before you joke on the 1600mm you'd be shocked at the reach. Would a 2x teleconverter on the 18-270mm tamron work ok?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Michael Campbell You won't get any more detail by adding a 2x teleconverter to the 18-270; it's just not sharp enough at 270mm. I haven't used the 800-1600. If you want to stick with the D5200, you might consider the Nikon 300mm f4 and a 2x teleconverter--not cheap, but better than you'll get with any of the zooms. You might also consider switching to a used Canon 7D (sdp.io/7d) and a Canon 400mm f5.6 (sdp.io/c400) which is the sharpest, cheapest combination we've found.

[@michaelcampbell5567]

Tony Northrup Thanks. I took a bunch of photos today at abuot 600 yards. With your pro equipment what would you expect to get at this range by cropping? For the stuff I do I really can't do much more than get out of the truck and snap some shots (for 3 nesting pairs I took 160 photos over about 15 minutes to get a dozen or so good ones including one with a red wing blackbird pecking on a flying osprey) The nest filled up the frame but it was overcast and all the pictures where "whited out". I'll do a little researching and looking around, you seem to know exactly what I'm after. I will review your editing wildlife vid and pick up your books.

[@michaelcampbell5567]

Tony Northrup I bought a 70-300 nikon vr and am working on a used 300m f2.8 that ought to be slick with a 2x. If the 300mm falls thru I am looking at a couple 400mm and 500mms

[@michaelcampbell5567]

Tony Northrup I just got a 400mm f/3.5 and with a teleconverter it is just amazing. My arms get tired after a while though (I have a tripod wasn't using it). It is even better with a 2x teleconverter.

[@Chrismzeller]

Thanks for the great review!....but oh you tease! I Heard the word landscape review and immediately clicked before reading that this review is in THE FUTURE. TEASE! Can't wait to see it. :-)

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Chrismzeller I think we'll post it today. I just wanted the link to be available for everyone who'd see it later. Sorry to tease!

[@jwch635]

How many threads does lightroom support? How about Dual Exon vs Single i7 OC for editing huge megapixel pictures?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

WADE CH It's mostly single-threaded, which means the performance sucks no matter what. I haven't found that it makes a huge difference, but as far as bang for the buck, you'll probably do better getting a proc with a higher GHz rating over a slower proc with more cores. I just built another computer for tethering in our studio using an i7-4790k... then I switched to Capture One, because it's so much faster that the difference in procs becomes insignificant.

[@gustavovargas4336]

S.C.D.J. EN V.C. Hi +Tony Northrup Thank you for videos, I am on market for a 5DSR wanted to ask if overall the 5DSR is it worth it? is it worth almost twice as 5D3? does it make you say wow!, can't believe it the pictures are amaizing! thank you.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Gustavo Vargas Yeah, it really does WOW you with the image quality. It's noticeably better than our D810.

[@LDam-pf6lx]

MrKdr500 I take the "S" in 5DS to mean "Studio", which is where I think it will excel, because you can control the light so well. I think this is the market that Canon tries to take away from Medium format. The size of the photosites have very little to do with dynamic range. Go ahead and do a +6EV push on the DPR 5DS preview and compare it with the D810 or D750. The 5DS falls apart even after a just +3EV push. And this goes for both the "Full" and the "Print" (downsampled) version. In the same preview, test out the "Print" version of the low light test. Despite having more pixels to sample from when downsampled, the 5DS still loses to the D810, which has also been downsampled. What this means is that while the Canon is worse with regards to per-pixel noise, it's still also worse with full image noise. So, for anything but studio shots, I think I'd pick the D810 over the 5DS, if only camera-bodies were a consideration. www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-5ds-sr/5

[@gustavovargas4336]

Let the photos from each of us speak for ourselves

[@darthgzuz]

where is the review it self?

[@keithcanisiusbaerken6252]

5diii is not the previous 5d generation. 5ds & r are diffrent and new category lineups.

[@snaddon38]

5DS R, the best autofocus DSLR for wedding stills photography ?

[@FilmFactry]

I'd like to know if the 50mpx Canon, or 36mpx Sony (and 50+ mpx future Sony) if the resolution is wasted on the lenses. DXO shows some of the best Sony/ lenses at 24-25 mpx in sharpness. Wouldn't that mean a 24 mpx A7II would produce detail almost the same as a 36mpx A7r? Can you see more detail in a high megapixel sensor, using the same lens? I know the 55mm Zeiss is a sharper lens, but not a focal length I use.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

FilmFactry We'll cover this in the landscape video, but more megapixels gets more detail out of lenses that aren't perfectly sharp. So a lens might get 22 perceived megapixels out of a 36 MP sensor, but get 30 perceived megapixels out of a 50 MP sensor. In other words, even with mediocre lenses like the 24-105 f4, we see significantly more detail from the 5DS-R shots than from the D810 or 5D Mark III shots.

[@KTMcaptain]

dxo shows your favorite nikon zoom, 24 120 f4, @ 15mp on the d750 and 17mp on the d810. so it really does matter what lens. the sigma u used was clearly a much sharper performer that benefits from higher resolving power. somehow I feel that the d750 with the sigma or tamron 150-600 would be a great nikon alternative. decent fps, great sensor, high iso performance would allow great f stop and shutter combinations, plus amazing dr at all its usable iso. combo would cost 3k, and using 12 bit lossy yields huge buffer benefits with virtually no loss in capability. I wonder how well the d5 will be. I really wish that can-kon/ni-non would make the grips add ram/buffer and allow for 8-10 fps on their ff beasts. could you imagine a modular camera that you could upgrade things like shutter, ram, viewfinder, af modules, and sensor. you could create your perfect camera for your prefered mount and upgrade it periodically as you see fit, instead of huge leaps every 4-6 years for non professionals.

[@manuellazarte5637]

that was awesome thought'and very practical'body'glass'megapixel'and =saving'and quality picture's. thank you very much'

[@cardiacade]

Just picked a mint one up for £1750 for my macro work, should prove very useful.

[@ishorgurung4241]

Hello sir which dslr camera should i buy for wildblife bird action photography...beside 1 dx thanks

[@LSTSPERU]

how is the photos at night?

[@umutsezerkoc7412]

Hi tony! I have a question to you, which one should I buy for best image/video quality? Second-hand Nikon d610 Second-hand Sony A7 Or Canon 70d ?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Umut Sezer Koç Of those the 70D is the most capable video camera because of the focus tracking and articulating touchscreen. It has the worst still image quality, though. The D610 and a7 have about the same image quality, but the D610 has a better selection of native lenses and better focusing... but the a7 is much bigger. This review might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIHRmWeEm8x7bJY

[@Exchiefboy]

Tony Northrup I believe you meant a7 is much smaller :P

[@peteturk23]

Is either the D5S or the D5SR wireless when you transfer pictures to ipad or do you have to spend the $500 for the canon wireless adaptor. Or should I get a D5 mark IV?

[@ambertrunksies8083]

Are Canon's better than Nikon's for wildlife photos then? If not which Nikon do you think works best for wildlife?

[@daskadse769]

Technically, I believe that Nikon features slightly better Low-Light-Performance and Dynamic Range, but the main thing why many Photographers choose Canon over Nikon are the lenses. While Nikon has some nice lenses as well, the L glass from Canon seems to be better in many aspects, and afaik (but dont quote me on this) Nikon lacks pendants to some Canon lenses (e.g. the 70-200/f2.8 L - all other lenses in this range suffer heavy focus breathing).

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Amber Conover Canon has that one lens, the 400mm f5.6, which is a remarkably good value. Also, Nikon doesn't have a high-speed APS-C camera like the 7D Mark II... Nikon cameras also tend to buffer really quickly. Check our D7200 review for some useful information.

[@mrharpman]

The Only One Doesn't the Canon have the worst focus breathing? Matt Granger did a great Video about this.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

mrharpman The Canon 70-200 doesn't show focus breathing; the Nikon does. I don't totally understand why, but Matt tested focus breathing as a videographer would, rather than as a still photographer would.

[@telemaq76]

i checked the pictures of the birds, recovered shadows still a lot noisy even at iso-100. I feel the image very detailed but when you zoom in, it s not that sharp, at the opposite of a 1dx file, few pixels but when you crop the image, it s still very sharp. Maybe it s my eyes :D

[@TonyAndChelsea]

telemaq76 well, the sharpness would have more to do with the lens and the technique. If you're talking about the catbird picture, it was taken with the 400 f5.6, which is a good lens, but it's not as sharp as the 500 or 600 f4. If you want to compare sharpness with the 1DX, be sure to scale the images to the same resolution first.

[@telemaq76]

agree for lens, i ve both 400 f5.6 and 500 f4 Is, not the same world . i enjoy the 5dsr for my landscape, sutdio work and astrophotography and casual wildlife, i think it will be the full package

[@rong3378]

Don't know how long you waited to get the shot of the eagle picking out lunch, but whatever it was it was worth it! Such a powerful/beautiful image!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Ron G Thanks! It took many, many months of planning & waiting, hundreds of thousands of frames, and probably a million mosquito bites.

[@wild_art_by_sam]

can u please help me to find out a best canon body for Canon EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM Lens. for ( Wildlife photography )

[@Alphfirm]

Thanks!

[@musicmanshawnmr76]

is the 5ds good for motor sports

[@TomOConnellMusic]

How is the 300mm f/4 for wildlife if I was to use it on my 70d? The brighter aperture, IS and slightly less reach (for slower shutter) seems to make a little more sense than with the 400 f/5.6, or am I wrong here? Most of the stuff I do is walking around looking for small birds or occasionally pheasants/sparrow hawks. Not a lot of interesting birds in my area of the UK.

[@JohnDoe-fp1tv]

Wildlife photography and no mention of THE wildlife photography lens - Canon 200-400 1.4x

[@TonyAndChelsea]

John Doe I consider that more of a sports lens. It would be an excellent lens for zoos or safaris with controlled environments where you could get really close, or if you're an expert-level wildlife photographer and you know that you can get within that range where you won't be shooting at the long end all the time. Most people would be shooting at the long end, with the 1.4X enabled, and thus would be better served by spending their $11k on a big prime.

[@rentedtux1883]

It's actually just fine for bif. You don't need to shoot 1k frames to get good shots

[@PIXYBASHER]

Thanks Tony, thats all I needed to know, 7dmkii it is then :-)

[@EnidAgnusDei]

Sorry can't agree with you, I photograph deer in the wild and in good light my 5ds and 5ds r out perform my 1Ddx other than in speed. With it's 50.6 images, you can crop in so much it is unreal, and yes when the image is close up the detail is stunning.

[@oggbad]

Good discussion Tony - I certainly identify with 'time' spent and GCBF!

[@videoman1965]

Tony looks ready for war

[@IllinoisPB]

I wouldn't call the 5DsR and 5Ds a new generation of 5D but a upgrade or change in sensor and a few other things. But a new generation of 5D it is not.

[@PantonePapi]

Where ARE you?!? I hear your voice but I can't see you

[@nikostsitsos2767]

Unfortunately Canon, in contrast to Nikon, which respects more the professionals who have the Nikon D850, has not presented any new firmware. He could very comfortably. She generally doesn't take care of her models. We have invested a lot of money to buy them. By force he made a new firmware for the 1dx mark iii. Could also be for the canon 5dsR. At least for digital noise and focus. Too bad. We feel cheated.

[@jonathansmith6311]

There's a flaw in the Manual Focusing mode on the 5Ds and 5Dsr. If you switch to manual focus in live view the magnifying frame isn't there although you can activate it by pressing the magnifying button. However, this action locks the exposure and when you move the frame around you cannot focus on bright or dark objects within the scene. The 5Ds and 5Dsr shows NO frame, then when you press the magnify button brings the frame up at x1 then x6 then x16 (exposure is locked on all) On my 5D mark 2 it shows A frame, then when you press the magnify button shows the same frame at x5 and x10 (exposure ISN'T locked on the none magnified frame but is on the x5 and x10) Why on earth would the 5Ds have a magnified frame at x1??? It doesn't do anything except lock the exposure and we don't want to lock the exposure!!

[@Razor2048]

With the prices they charge, they should be giving these cameras around 32+GB of RAM.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Razor2048 Agreed, I don't know how they couldn't offer more of the little things like RAM.

[@Mp57navy]

Like because of Blackrapid Strap. :)

[@anandkatherasan5665]

what about 5Ds in wildlife photography??

[@christopherhowell3209]

There are no decent efs lenses !!

[@ejbernal2]

So this is what Vietnam was like.....

[@Steelcrafted]

Dont come to the everglades....florida sucks......

[@baker2niner]

titmouse barking at you. 7DII and the 100-400 or 400/5.6...