Canon C70 good for commercial filmmaking? Final Review

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timestamps:
Intro: 00:00
What I use it for: 01:08
Body and Design: 02:05
RF Mount: 07:32
Autofocus: 10:27
Image Quality: 10:21
Image Quality for real: 14:23
Dynamic Range: 14:46
Sharpness: 15:30
Colors: 17:00
Slow Motion: 20:12
Low light: 21:40
Recording formats: 23:03
Usability: 25:27
Final Verdict: 26:23
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[@damiencooper]

What do you think of the C70?

[@faithhouse6111]

It's cool. Why don't you use the RF 15-35 lens?

[@damiencooper]

@@faithhouse6111 not wide enough on S35. Not possible with the speedbooster

[@legitimatejones]

@@damiencooper Why would u prefer the c300 mkIII or c500 mkII if you only had one camera to pick for the rest of your life? Just interested in what that answer would be aside from the SDI / HDMI problems

[@damiencooper]

@@legitimatejones well, the C300III can do everything the C70 can do but more. SDI, Vmount batteries, RAW recording and I still prefer the form factor with the detachable side grip. I wouldn't have the ability to use the speedbooster though

[@legitimatejones]

@@damiencooper got it... I do like these type of long informative vids keep more coming.. Let's get that watch time up there 😆

[@NtateBlouZA]

Canon needs to send you the EOS R3. This is the best C70 review on KZbin to date.

[@MarkD3P]

THANK YOU for this - just rented two C70s for a gig, and ended up purchasing one (thanks LensRentals for your Keeper program!) and this video could not be more timely. You consistently put out some of the most on-point, informative videos out there. With the speedbooster there couldn't be a better full-frame-ish 4K option out there.

[@afexalpha6174]

You’re amazing I like your color grading

[@TheVFXbyArt]

4:00 HDMI was made to connect your TV once and forget about it. Its crazy that manufacturers treat it like a utility port. Connecting one always feels like I broke something!!!

[@brentsmithline3423]

May decades ago in the days of film, and analog out of college I went to work for a professional film, and sound recording studio. Will I ever be using the high end gear you are using, I do not think so. Thing is I love you watch your KZbin Channel to see what is being used in the true professional world these days. All the best to you, and your company.

[@damiencooper]

thanks so much for the kind comment! Lot's of raw behind the scenes coming up soon here :)

The AF with RF lenses been shooting a KZbin series for IRONMAN for the past week and the AF is perfect. Finds faces fast. :)

[@MikeEdwardsphotography]

Thanks for making this Damian. Greatly appreciated. This confirms my hesitation in investing in this camera. The c300 Mark III seems to make more sense.

[@thisisbug]

if the speedboosted 16- 35 III is your wide angle lens why get the tokina 11-20 atx t2.9 ? Since it doesnt have autofocus. How do you compare the image of both? Also why didnt you get the speedboasted tamron 15-30 since it have IS (and the canon 16-35 doesnt)

[@ProFilmmakers]

Dope episode. Great hands-on review of the canon c70.

[@cedricjamesjr1]

Great videos man... I have a question and I can't find an answer on KZbin. How do you transfer your C70 videos from the camera to a windows PC with lossless quality. Mine won't accept MFX files. No one has a detailed video on this.

[@damiencooper]

really? Not sure, as I am on Mac. But your editing software will accept MFX files, even if windows doesn't

[@bobsteinfinkel]

thanks for the review. Interesting to hear your hands on experience. I like the functionality of it, but not crazy about the super 35 sensor, or the lack of sharpness in the image, as I've gotten used to the super sharp footage coming out of the R series cameras.

[@BenEricson]

I agree. The sharpness absolutely doesn't cut it. Side by side, the image is way too close to the C300 Mkii (6 year old camera and sensor.)

[@bbell3979]

Great final review man. thanks for all the work you do for us! enjoy your vacation!!!

[@joelelizabeth1]

Great stuff. Always love your videos keep it up

[@damiencooper]

thanks for the ongoing support! :)

[@tpmediagroup]

I have the canon c200 (2 in fact) and I've been go back and forth on getting the c70 and eventually changing out the c200 but I dig your work and respect your opinion so I will be purchasing a c70 to go with my c200s til I phase them out. Thanks!

[@damiencooper]

C200 is great. I do prefer the C200 form factor I think. But the image out of the C70 is on another level

[@tpmediagroup]

@@damiencooper yeah... And THANK YOU! I already bought most of your c70 cage recommendations. I do multicam event and streaming and have plans to start shooting shorts and docs and will eventually use all c70s for it i guess. Thanks for your vids, they are of GREAT VALUE..

[@sammylee1012]

so which lut pack i should buy it use for c70, is the "Canon Cine Lut Pack C200/C300/C500 filmic edition"?

[@princetarun]

Awesome Review Which lens r ur fav & ur next lens for c70

[@DuffTV]

So just to confirm the firmware update improved the auto focus performance?

[@marekmucha2300]

Portkeys BM5 Monitor series are a good solution for the C70's missing SDI, as it allows you to cross convert HDMI with SDI.

[@damiencooper]

true. Didn't really like those for shooting though. Too small and not bright enough. If you use AF a lot it's totally fine though

[@marekmucha2300]

@@damiencooper I like Portkeys BM5WR, In comparison to Ninja it's twice as bright capable of 2200nits to Ninja's 1000, it's 5.5inch so if you prefer 7inch, I can see that it might feel small. But remote camera control capability is quite tempting.

[@Loqu4]

@@damiencooper It's 2000 nits, really solid

[@DuffTV]

mmm a little soft, that’s weird. I was hoping to use the C70 camera with the Canon xf605 Camcorder which is incredibly sharp. Mmm

[@Reno_T]

Stunning review 👏🏻

[@EmileModesitt]

Perhaps all your HDMI issues are at least partially due to powering the camera and monitor from the same battery? E.g. if you power the camera and monitor with the same V-mount of power the camera with the DC output of the monitor. Not sure if you do that, but it can definitely destroy your HDMI if you do because the HDMI cable basically causes a short circuit.

[@EPICSHOT]

Yeah, I burned my ZCAM E2 with a monitor that way.

[@jablais4]

What SD cards do you use? I have Pro Grade Digital 256gb V90 and when shooting in xf-avc, S&F, 120/23.976, I'll get a buffer overflow and it stops recording. I bought a Lexar 128gb V90 and it seems to be fine.

[@damiencooper]

Angelbird V90 and those work fine.. But I had problems with other cards for sure!

[@guidosc3470]

Kingston Canvas React plus are cheap and work perfectly fine so far for me

[@BenEricson]

I've had that buffer issue with literally every type of card. I've also tried the fastest Sandisk cards... I've noticed that it seems to do better with a fresh file structure though... If you have 4K / 24/60, then switch to 120, you'll likely have issues. My advice would be to switch cards before you do the slow motion recording. I find this incredible whack and disappointing though. Canon should have went with CFast Cards.

[@nickdelatorre1280]

I pair it with my c300MkII and I’m very happy with it. It’s basically my b-roll camera. I wish the record button handle side of the camera was different, maybe more like my other C cinema cameras. And I wish it had the standard C Log my c300MkII and C100mkII have. I was able to simulate the look on my camera so it’s not a big problem. Out side of that, I like the size, auto focus, face tracking, dynamic range.

[@jaredmarino]

I'm a c300MKII user and am very interested in getting a C70 as my b-cam. Do you still like it after a few months later? I'm currently using a BMPCC6K as my b-cam but figured the C70 upgrade might be worth it.

[@nickdelatorre1280]

@@jaredmarino I am very happy I invested in the canon c70. Great on a slide and hand held, better hand held with a lens w IS.

[@louisdturner]

Hey Nick, how does it compare with the c300MKii? Im a c100Mkii user and am looking to upgrade to either second hand c300ii or c70 - and am struggling with the decision. Thanks.

[@nickdelatorre1280]

@@louisdturner that’s a tough question, a lot of money, the only reason I bought the c70 is it is smaller, has IS and 60-120 FPS at 4k, my c300mkii does not have that, I love the image and audio my c300mkii records, I haven’t used c300mkiii, so I can’t speak to using that camera,, but every canon cinema camera I’ve purchased (3) I have used with ease out of the box and I bet the newer c300mkiii is the same,, I guess it comes down to what you earn to absorb the cost

[@louisdturner]

@@nickdelatorre1280 Hey Nick, thanks for the reply. I really like the idea of having 12 bit 444 color in 1080 on the mark2 and also the build quality of the c cameras which - I may be wrong - the c70 doesnt seem to have?

[@TheJadedFilmMaker]

u mention long hdmi cables.... have u considered wireless systems ?

[@yreyez]

Great input.. I'm leaning to get the c70 as my main and thinking for the upcoming Canon D3 for back up but yet to see how it performs.. And yes, I wish SDi would be nice have along with HDMI..

[@lionroots11]

Thank you bro. I enjoy this video hopefully you can make a c70 color grade with your recommend lut in final cut! Peace hamie dig it not homie Hamie lol

[@billzidis2656]

That camera could be perfect but...The C70 supposed to be a camera that you can use out of the box but the main issues are : * The tiny screen,also not confident enough when tilt * No internal raw? Come on... I'll stick with my Pocket 6K Pro's for now but I do love canon as a company and their cinema cameras are just amazing but the C70 isn't one of the cinema line.

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

Internal raw is now possible. Actually, was launched not long after your comment :)

[@keith-kalfas]

Thanks man. Watched the entire video

[@JustinVachon]

It's so stupid that to get full frame you need a speed booster to go from RF to an EF lens and at the same time they announce that EF lenses are at the end of life.

[@damiencooper]

And then release two new 20k$ EF lenses. I for one am at a loss

[@Abhi2011roy]

Hold on cinema raw lt is coming up.. is that true or just a rumour?

[@damiencooper]

true. It'S official

[@mrcinemagrouppy]

wow, the 1.29 mark (sig art? 35mm 1.4) looks amazing. Have you tried the sig 40mm 1.4 yet? Looks cinema to me. Great review.

[@ProFilmmakers]

You mention 2 types of sd cards you love using. The pricier is the v90 sd card, and the cheaper option would be the ev60 card...did I catch that one right?

[@lanifwtf]

Interessant wäre noch zu erwähnen, dass nördlich von 50FPS DGO readout nicht mehr aktiv ist. Es ist nicht gravierend, aber ich persönlich merke den Stop in dynamic range den ich verliere. Ich habe sehr ähnlich wie du, eine C300 III, c70 und R5 im Einsatz und überlege aktuell die C300 abzutreten für 2 weitere C70 und nur noch damit zu Shooten. Den Unterschied merken 100 von 100 Kunden nicht, würde ich sagen. Tolles Review!

[@grazimj]

Thanks for your review. I watched the whole thing. I have a c70 and love it. Still learning all the ins and outs though. Why don’t you like editing in long GOP? This is what I normally use - I’ve run into issues with all-I buffering while shooting. Would love to hear why you don’t like long gop.

[@damiencooper]

well, because my computer can't handle it :D Can't playback the footage smoothly

[@SAINTOJ]

How can I get the camera

[@aaronglynnwalker]

Legit question bc my wife is pondering my video career as I age. What is your age?

[@damiencooper]

haha, I am 35

[@gml_studio]

WOW! Bratislava?)

[@DlmlZ]

Well excellent video, great explanation! However, I want to shoot a music video. I already have the audio track with the singing voice complete. How can I shoot a video of the singer when singing along with the audio file (i.e. doing lip sync)? Or rather said, how can I synchronize it best??? Could I just connect the C70 to my MacBook and record it maybe on final cut, while the audio is running also in final cut? which capture card would you use? Your reply is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot! Love it! Cheers DimiZ

[@damiencooper]

Did you watch my “how to shoot a music video” tutorial?

[@guidosc3470]

Great video! There are cheaper Kingston Canvas React Plus SD cards :) (under 200€) ! And I think you can record audio in slowmo to the second card 🤓

[@jiajianhou426]

when you mount the 28-70 f2 on the c70, does it feel off balance? Or is it still OK? have you used c70+28-70 on a gimbal? I have the 28-70 and waiting on my c70 order.

[@damiencooper]

depends on your rig. With just a BP-A30 battery it's def front heavy.. it works on a gimbal though

[@jiajianhou426]

@@damiencooper thanks!

[@charlesnetzler2262]

Your lighting is messing with me, the motivated light is on the dark side and you're shooting from the bright side as opposed to the shadow side 🤔

[@rumorscameras]

echoooooooo

[@damiencooper]

It has been fixed since 😉

[@rumorscameras]

@@damiencooper sawthat on the other video actually, cheers

[@Velghe87]

HDMI is the worst connection ever.

[@burgunbeerd]

colour science only matters if you dont know how to colour grade and cant afford luts

[@bedenegative6450]

Nice, hdmi often fry because of ground loop charging camera and monitor off same v mount. I learnt this recently....🥲