Canon EOS R7 Final Review

[@antzpantz]

I love the part where Jordan said 'phase detect autofocus' and the camera goes out-of-focus for that second!

[@_rhapsodist]

yeah that vlogging test proved how bad it actually is

[@alansach8437]

@@_rhapsodist Unless, of course, you have less than no interest in vlogging!

[@d-hell]

That autofocus pumping in the background on the vlogging sequence was Panasonish!

[@mattdebyl8806]

Yes! It was bloody awful, unusable IMO. I don't think it was focus hunting, but in fact the sides / corners getting further / closer to the sensor and thus changing how blurred the background is. It is SO warpy it made me feel seasick.

[@Philtho]

@@mattdebyl8806 You can check other reviews where they test this and it doesn't appear to do it. Maybe he had it in a weird AF mode... Honestly, this review seems very throw away. It didn't seem in depth like the others at all. He didn't go over how amazing the IBIS + Lens IS is.. Taking 640mm still on the RF 100-400 hand held at 1/50 and it being sharp is pretty damn impressive. Nor did he go into tracking birds, which is basically what this camera was designed for. Dunno, just seemed kind of sloppily put together.

[@danieldougan269]

Panasonish...that's a great description and a new word!

[@michaeldobson8859]

I wish I could converse on why it was doing that but I’m pretty ignorant on the tech. I did just buy an R7 based on other reviews not sure if any of this negative side issues will dampen my spirits on my new purchase. I was currently using a 7D and that was keeping me happy as well as overwhelming me. Now I know I need a college course on camera technology just to understand the lingo!

[@afikrazanafi]

including the resolution w x l pixels is really helpful, wished it's all in every screen information not only the total amount.

[@Ildskalli]

Agree 100%!

[@MrNoipe]

number of dots is such a weird way to represent resolution

[@allisgood60]

Eventually and sadly, third parties will give in. For instance tamron 28-75 was rebranded into a nikkor 28-75 with identical optical formula

[@kennikuhlmann-clark9860]

Computer monitors have always used dot and dot-pitch along with resolution... Pixels are not dots; resolution is not dots.

[@n0f8r]

autofocus in that vlog segment was so bad - what was going on there?

[@B9scrambler]

Yeah....those were Panasonic levels of pulsation going on. Erk... :S

[@WalterWhiteFromTheBlock]

Yeah, and it looks wobbly (is it rolling shutter or the image stabilization?).

[@Elgsdyr]

Was just going to comment on that too. Looks absolutely useless. So disturbing.

[@cjm8160]

@@WalterWhiteFromTheBlock other reviewers have noted that the rolling shutter on the R7 is much worse than the rolling shutter on the R6 and A7IV

[@safemode8598]

I love when Jordan gets to do video's, he's great. Plus I appreciate Chris more when he's comes back, by far this is the the best camera show on KZbin.

[@alexagno6559]

Love this review. It's very interesting to have a video covering mainly the real limits of the camera instead of the usual very entertaining but slightly shallow reviews. Go Jordan!

[@philiprolenick4475]

Recent discovery - you *can* have three control dials active at once in the R7's Manual mode to control aperture, shutter speed and ISO simultaneously with the histogram live all the time. Here's how: This setup relies on using the control ring on the lens as the third control dial, so on lenses like the R7's kit lens that use the control ring for focusing, you sacrifice manual focusing, but with lenses that have separate focus and control rings there's no sacrifice. That's any EF or EF-S lens with the EF to R Control Ring adapter, and any RF lens with both focus and control rings - like my Canon RF 100-400mm lens. (Actually, other than the two RF-S kit lenses this isn't a problem, since most RF lenses have both rings, and the five that have only one have a switch on the lens to switch its use between Manual Focus and Control Ring.) To set this up, go to page 6 of the AF tab in the settings screen and set the Focus/Control ring to Control rather than the default Focus setting. Then go to page 3 of the Camera tab and in Customize Dials you set the three dials up however you like. Since I used a pre-EOS Canon FT-QL for nearly forty years before going digital, and thus I'm used to having an aperture ring on the lens, I set the Control ring on the lens to AV. Since I'm used to setting the shutter speed on the top of the camera, I set the Main Dial to TV, and I put ISO control on the Quick Control Ring around the joystick next to the viewfinder. (Film cameras changed the ISO by changing the film you were using!) But you can assign those three functions between those three dials however you like. PS If you frequently want to focus manually with a lens that has only one ring, you can set one of your Custom Settings up to use the Control Ring on the lens for focusing and use the other two control dials however you prefer.

[@mhaney1111]

You can also set the lens ring to toggle between control/focus. I set the DOF button to 'switch control ring'.

[@mhaney1111]

Do this with RF-s lenses.

[@andrewbalcombe1338]

Thanks Jordan, Yes I found in my review on my channel, the Canon lens availability really lets the camera down. And also no new third-party glass available for it it is shocking. It had mixed results with my older canon glass. The 18-150 kit performed better than expected though. Here is hoping some new RFS glass comes out and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

The real problem is canon will eventually give us apsc lenses. However they will be f4-5.6 and nothing like the sigma 1.4-1.8’s & that’s a shame. Open the mount to 3rd parties canon

[@jonesphotography5257]

What is this based on? They have produced fast lenses for both their EF crop sensor as well as their EFM series.

[@-_--le3zk]

@@jonesphotography5257 this is rf mount,but for apsc,so using full frame glass doesn't make much Sense,and efm glass cant be mounted natively any more either

[@nhabben1]

@@jonesphotography5257 most people feel that the EF-M mount was barely developed. There are two fast primes the 22mm f2 and the 3m f1.4. He is saying the RF-S lenses might take a while to come out and all the zooms will likely to be slow which both of those will follow the EF-M mounts history. Rumor is that many of the RF-S lenses will be repackaged EF-M lenses just like the 18-150mm is.

[@HappyHubris]

You wish they were F5.6. F6.3 is the new APSC standard for Nikon and Canon. Unless you mean primes, in which case we're probably looking at small F2 and F2.8 FF lenses that can also be used on APSC, like Nikon's abominations.

[@alanm.4298]

Canon never "opened" the EF mount to 3rd party lens makers, yet those manufacturers still managed to make a ton of lenses for it. How? They reverse engineered it. No doubt the 3rd party lens makers will do the same with the RF mount. In fact, two already have. Both Viltrox and Yongnuo have intro'd autofocus lenses for Canon R-series cameras. If they can do it, so can Sigma, Tamron, Tokina and all the rest. Patience, grasshopper. 😎

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Looks nice given the price. I did notice that during the "vlog" segment, the AF was hunting in a very Panasonic way. Other than that, it's a good camera.

[@supertaufiqr]

Yes i noticed that too. Kept looking at the trees in the background.

[@truthseeker6804]

from several videos it seems the autofocus for video needs to be updated massively. but it does well for photos.

[@ridgefield]

It was terrible indeed.

[@thatsreallyamoon]

Absolutely not (about Panasonic). Have you seen the S5 being used for vlogging? Even it doesn't hunt that much. If your face is in the shot and stays in a relatively same distance, it's actually good. Canon has zero excuse for not having perfect AF, at all. This isn't a new idea to them.

[@marcus3d]

Yes, the AF was the worst I've ever seen. Not even old panasonics have worse AF than the R7 had during that vlogging segment. Worse than literally every other AF camera on the market.

[@tbgtom]

I just ordered an R7. Have plenty of RF glass since I have two R5s, I mostly want it for wildlife and other shots where the full frame just doesn't provide enough reach.

[@marcogroot5025]

Hi guys, thank you for your reviews of the R7 and 10. I'm confused as to why you (or any other reviewer I've watched or read) don't mention that the R10 has an in-built flash while the R7 doesn't. My partner and I regularly use the in-built flashes on our cameras (EOS 50D with a 70-300mm lens and a Panasonic FZ300) to fill in lighting or darken backgrounds for macro photography. I understand that a separate, dedicated flash will be vastly superior in a lot of ways, but not in convenience. An in-built flash is always available, you don't have to remember to bring it or spend time attaching it, possibly missing your shot. Why is so little (i.e. no) attention given to such a handy feature on the camera, and, for that matter, why do you think Canon decided to leave it off the R7, while it looks like there is ample space to install one? Our ideal here would be the R7 with an in-built flash... Canon, are you listening???? Cheers, Marco.

[@LE672AJ]

For an EF adapted lens test, that old 85mm 1.8 isn’t the best AF out there on wider apertures. It’s best in very bright & contrasty lighting, especially in live view on the 90D and 1DX iii, but the CA on that lens gets more noticeable in those cases (I sold mine for that reason). I’ve been using some EF / EF-S STM lenses, the EF 70-200mm 2.8 L v3 lens, and for giggles a 2003 28-75mm 2.8 Tamron, and I haven’t had any issues accurately nailing eye AF on the R7. 2 other notes: - I tried my R7 with the 100-500mm RF 4.5-7.1 L and it is an Amazing combo. - IBIS worked nicely with a pair of my old M42 adapted manual lenses (55mm 1.8 and 135mm 2.8)

[@ricr.4669]

my only fav lens is 70-200f2.8 v3. I don't know why but I like it even shooting on R5. the rf version feels amateurish because of the pumping mechanic

[@simonmaduxx6777]

A terrible choice. There is some weird fascination with that lens from DPreview, with them using it in the image quality scenes even though the lens is 20+ years old, and suffers from UGLY purple fringing. Thats the ony 85 mm FF lens they could adapt? Nonsense. Its likely the only one they had on hand. There are several EF 85's and dpreview uses none of them for testing except this one. Its nuts.

[@ricr.4669]

@@simonmaduxx6777 was gonna same the same thing.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@@ricr.4669 Its very frustrating, sometimes i rant about it in their comments. I simply cant understand why this of all the lens they could use gets chosen. I used to have that lens. It was great for what it was, until i discovered the ugliness of purple fringing and smearing that it does. Yet folks swear by it. What a crazy world lol

[@Skux720]

The trick with the rear dial is to swipe it up and down, rather than try to swipe across and nudge the joystick.

[@lelandmcarthy7332]

I just used my R7 with the RF70-200 at a professional tennis tournament. Crop sensor gave me great reach with that lens, and the results were outstanding. The auto focus system acquired focus almost instantaneously.

[@Acolyte_of_Cthulhu]

Thinking of getting this camera, which RF70-200? Canon RF 70-200/4L IS USM?

[@lelandmcarthy7332]

I have the 2.8 L lens

[@ForrestWest]

The R7 in my bag with the 18-150mm, the rf100mm macro, and the rf100-400mm lens weigh 9.5 pounds. A fantastic lightweight kit that goes from a cropped 18mm out to 640mm.

[@MathewPanicker1010]

2 questions for you 1. Is the evf really that bad? 2. Is it true that the mechanical shutter causes blurry photos at slow shutter speeds?

[@starbase218]

Isn’t that either 18-400mm or 29-640mm?

[@rickhenderson9028]

@@starbase218 I think the 18-150 is aspc included with the camera but the 100-400 is a full frame lens so you would multiple by 1.6

[@starbase218]

@@rickhenderson9028 That doesn’t matter though. A lens being APS-C or FF only relates to how big the image circle is that it throws. It doesn’t relate to the viewing angles. E.g. a 50mm FF lens and a 50mm APS-C lens will yield the same viewing angles on an APS-C camera.

[@marklaurendet1861]

Good to see Jordan doing a full review

[@grdprojekt]

I bought the RP last year and now see the R7 as a really compelling replacement. As an entry level for full frame camera the RP is great given the price, but I think for my use cases the R7 might just be a little bit better. Just waiting to see more RF-S lenses and I'll switch to it.

[@amermeleitor]

What are your uses cases? I'm searching for an used RP at good price and any information is good for me before the buy.

[@zegzbrutal]

No need to get RF-S lens, the 15-30 or any ultra wide RF/EF will fulfill the wider end, the rest of the focal length, RF lens can do

[@ChuckinAurora]

I'm getting one. I have the RP also.

[@grdprojekt]

​@@amermeleitor I bought the RP when I'm mostly do events, portraits, street, and landscape. For the first three it's great, really loving the skin tone from the jpeg, but pretty dreadful for landscape because the DR is the same as my old 60D. I don't know for sure if the R7 has better DR (I usually use DXOMark for reference, they haven't tested it), but from the sample images from DPReview, I'd say it is. Now I often shoot sports as well and the 4 fps (with continuous AF) in RP is.. not enough. For video I'm kinda fed up with the 4K crop and dreadful rolling shutter, which is fine when I do interview-style vids, but for short films with some handheld scene, it's unacceptable. Idk, maybe I should've known better.

[@seanedwards94]

I would strongly suggest against the rp. Either an older 5D or jump to the R; and I'm pretty sure the R7 will have noticeably better DR

[@realafricanvideos]

I just got one. It's absolutely brilliant.

[@CamAragonSports]

Do you like the crop sensor?

[@realafricanvideos]

Yes

[@danschulz8255]

Fascinating review. They’re masters at talking positively about a camera while showing it’s flaws. The only thing missing is using the built in mic.

[@KevDreck]

Never use any build in mic

[@pal54321]

No way I'd go back to crop, will wait for RP2, hopefully in the Autumn. Hanging on to my 6Dii in the meantime.

[@derekderek6967]

Build in mic , is worth to check as well . I used to many times used c100 MK2 build mic in camera , everytime glad for canon to add it in 2nd edition of c100

[@maxwilson7001]

I always use a built in mic as scratch audio for syncing

[@PhilThach]

Great job, Jordan! I haven't experienced any of the handling problems that you did. I actually kind of like the new dial-around joystick design. I love the case 2 tip and will be trying that soon when photographing birds in a thicket.

[@alanm.4298]

You are correct that Canon needs to develop some additional RF-S lenses. They might have the means to do so quickly... Simply adapt some of their EF-M lenses. Actually they might have done just that with the RF-S 18-150mm... It appears very similar to the EF-M 18-150mm. Now if Canon would just do the same thing with the EF-M 11-22mm, EF-M 22mm, EF-M 28mm Macro and EF-M 32mm f/1.4. RF-S versions of each of those would answer a lot of immediate needs. It would be great, too, if Sigma and Viltrox each came out with RF-S versions of their EF-M lenses. Especially the Sigma 16mm and 56mm, Viltrox 56mm. Sigma has yet to produce an autofocus lens for RF mount. But Viltrox has their full frame capable AF 85mm f/1.8 RF II. Of course there are also already more than a few reasonably affordable full frame-capable Canon RF 24mm f/1.4 Macro IS STM ($599), RF 85mm f/2 Macro IS STM ($549), RF 35mm f/1.8 Macro IS STM ($499), RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM ($399), RF 16mm f/2.8 STM ($299), and 50mm f/1.8 STM ($179). Finally, there are some fairly affordable full frame telephoto options too... Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM ($599}, RF 600mm f/11 IS STM ($699) and RF 24-240mm f/4-6.3 IS USM ($799). All those full frame lenses will work just as well on the APS-C cameras, as they do on full frame. Maybe even better, since the crop trims off the edges and corners where most affordable lenses are their weakest. But, why oh why did Canon feel the need to mess with good, familiar control layout? The joystick in the middle of the E.C. dial was a concern to me and you have confirmed it can be a problem. I agree about the lock mechanism in the mode dual, too. For years we asked for that on the DSLRs before they finally implemented it (on the 6th or 7th gerneration?) Now they take a leap backward? Hello, Canon! Dunno about the off/on/video switch, personally. So I'll take your word for it being another thing to gripe about. The final thing that bugs me is that Canon could easily have made this camera compatible with the BG-R10 battery grip used by the R6 & R5. The footprint of the R7 is surprisingly close to the same as those full frame models. If they had dine that and upgraded the resolution of the EVF, I bet people would have gladly paid more. It would have been more of a mirrorless 7D Mk II, rather than the mirrorless 90D it seems to be. (Canon tried to tell us the 90D was the successor to both 80D and 7DII, too, didn't they?)

[@GrainyWorld]

wobbly effects in vlog tests are a common issue for all new Canon cameras, it is very annoying and unacceptable. Thanks to Jordan for this review.

[@GrainyWorld]

@UCyQB6QGeCRgxc1QC_O5azUA Exactly

[@Shrek_Has_Covid19]

vlogs 🤢

[@GrainyWorld]

@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 U know It's the number one trend right now! This video is a kinda vlog.

[@ChuckinAurora]

I'm getting one. It's better than my RP.

[@WildStuff]

Mine arrived yesterday, I'll be pairing it mostly with the RF 16mm f/2.8 and the RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8. I was super keen on the RF 24mm f/1.8 until they announced the price - so I stuck an EF-S 24mm f/2.8 pancake on it for about 1/5th the price.

[@frankwong9486]

719 pounds on canon uk , backorder that price tag was a OOPS imo .__.

[@marinrealestatephotography]

What mic were you using for this video? Audio sounded different (more background noise) than usual, as far as I could tell. Also maybe somewhat less higher end in Jordan's voice in this video??? And as a side note for those people who might be interested in Vlogging, I think that getting the cheap and cheerful EF-S 10-18 STM IS and putting it on an adapter would be good. There was an awful lot of corner warping in the vlogging section that Jordan demonstrated and maybe using a lens with good IS like the EF-S 10-18 would help reduce it??? (Plus you get the wider field of view than the kit lens that comes with the R7). I adapt the Canon EF-S 10-18 on my Panasonic S-series cameras and that lens does reduce the corner warping significantly (as opposed to using JUST the camera's IBIS for stabilization with wide angle lenses).

[@ScottJWaldron]

Nice overview! Definitely a very tempting camera for the type of video I do. Too bad about the rolling shutter in oversampled video but at least they give the option of subsampling like what's in my current M6ii. I don't assume the current Sony APS-C do and they definitely have the same issue with oversampled 4k. Canon support had said it can record duplicate video to the two SD cards which seems like a very nice feature (Anyone with an R7 want to confirm that?). Also having in-camera h.265 HEVC is appealing for smaller video files.

[@kaneclements7761]

Fuji x-t2, fewer mp but better performance and a better lens lineup.

[@ScottJWaldron]

@@kaneclements7761 I've used a few. Not a fan of the video AF performance with the ones I had for my use case. The X-T4 is the one with a fully articulating screen which is useful for self-filming. It's true that the RF mount is lacking big time in lens options. Though off hand I don't know what Fujifilm lenses are optimized for video AF. Probably only the more recent lenses.

[@kalisti2323]

the AF in the vlogging section looked horrible imo

[@esco.letsgo]

Sony A1, EOS R3, Nikon Z9, etc. What is the next level/name/type of camera after this, what are they called?

[@philiprolenick4475]

Please explain how a camera that focuses with its imaging sensor - not separate focusing sensors in the base of the camera - can "back focus" because of the mount type of the lens. This part of your review almost made me reconsider my body-only order for the R7 - which I would use with my EF and EF-S lenses - 3 of each, including the 18-135 nanoUSM EF-S. But then I realized that since the camera is focusing the lens based on how sharp the image is on the imaging sensor, your review makes no sense in that regard.

[@indago1]

Guys, before you buy a camera, always rent. Dont spend money just based on some review. Feel for yourself if its what you need.

[@faridjalil1655]

And the best way to rent is amazon's 30 day return policy.

[@kenanmammadov7281]

@@faridjalil1655that’s what I do 🤣

[@ziginox]

Geez, the camera really struggled with autofocus on the vlogging section. How is the rolling shutter compared to the a6300/6500/6400/6600? I wonder if there will be an RF-mount version of the old EF-S 17-55mm 2.8 IS lens.

[@xing9958]

hope you guys can do a detailed comparison between the R7, a6600, fujifilm xt4 to crown the King of apsc at this price, really having a hard time deciding to get the xt4 or R7

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

Wait for Sony's next gen, coming shortly, then decide.

[@xing9958]

I just hope that the price is competitive towards the fujifilm and canon

[@kalisti2323]

Oh, and good job presenting the review Jordan!!

[@przybylskipawel]

I really don't get your opinion on IQ. I am looking at the same test chart at RAWs at ISO200 and can't believe what I hear. Take a look at lines to assess resolving power. Are you people blind or am I seeing things. R7 is much more detailed than both 90D and Sony a6600 that previously matched 90D in that regard despite lower resolution. And th moire? It's apalling on 90D and a6600 while on R7 is very reasonably controlled. XT-4 has least amount of moire, but looks little less contrasty. Also when we look at the text it seems most clearly readable on R7. Granted, some cameras has better noise performance, but you have o scale image to cover same portion of the corp. Canon file are blown up more, as the crop factor is greater.

[@Kevon420]

I hope Canon can give us something like a 10-24-ish f4 (which would be like a 16-40 equiv.) zoom lens for this body, and some fast aperture primes and this camera becomes a whole lot more compelling. It's too bad about the EVF, really the only significant negative for me on this camera. A viewfinder with a 3.69mil dot resolution and solid refresh rate (at least 60fps, maybe a high speed 120fps mode at 2.4mil dots) would've made this camera nearly perfect for me. Either way I think I will end up picking this up sooner or later, probably the most appealing Canon RF body to me (R5 a bit too expensive; R3 too big & expensive etc.) despite a few of the drawbacks talked about here. The ergonomic issues may bother Jordan more than me though it is odd Canon seem to change random little things about the layout of the camera. I thought the R3 figured it out with the brilliant touch enabled AF-On button, which should become something of an industry standard in my opinion.

[@gfxmaniac]

Evf is 1.15 magnification, which is kinda great?

[@MichaelZi]

When the final review of X-H2S ?:)

[@robertatwell7615]

One of the things that you didn’t comment upon is having an R7 when you already own a Canon R Mount and full frame R Mount L lenses. I also think that it would be nice to know which EF-L lenses gave you trouble on the R7 and which EF-L lenses work well. I think that it would be very interesting to understand this for existing Canon owners. I think that we have heard a lot of positives about this body but it sounds like you have problems with using more expensive full frame lenses on this APS-C sensor. I kind of understand some of your argument but if you already own either R or EF L series lenses for other bodies then this might not be a problem.

[@xmj6830]

You've heard a lot of positive things from youtube influencers...Canon needs to sell that crap fast before new owners realize their mistake!

[@robertatwell7615]

I don’t think that you are even trying to be fair by referring to it as crap. I think that Canon has done an interesting thing to put a high quality focus system and an APS-C sensor together for $1500. My experience with Canon L glass in the EF and R Mount has been really good. I still am deciding on what my mirrorless body will be. I have the Sony A7iii and am primarily a stills photography user. I shoot almost totally EF-L glass on my 5D III and 5DIV. Same on the Sony A7iii via the Metabones V adapter. I have both the standard and adjustment ring adapters for the EF to R Mount. I have tried the EOS R, R6, and R5 with the 24-70, and 70-200 zooms and the 85mm F1.2 R Mount lenses. I have not found a problem with my wide collection of EF-L glass on any of the R bodies. Moreover, the R Lenses that I tried are all spectacular. My comments about the R7 review is that it’s focused upon the R7 as an entry level camera but it is also a camera that works well for sports with the 1.6 X magnifications and existing pros might well find it useful for their kit with telephoto lenses especially older faster EF lenses.

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

Love it for sports w 70-200 2.8 ii

[@AlexPizarro]

You should do the R5 now since overheating seems a thing of the past

[@brainmt]

it still overheats all the time!

[@zegzbrutal]

RF 100-400 is compact enough... I don't think Canon need more telephoto lens on RF/RF-S for now. Fore large aperture&small form factor primes are desperately in need. Or let Tamron Sigma e.t.c step in

[@mattdebyl8806]

The current f/1.8 primes are pretty small. Hopefully Sigma and Tampon port theirs over soon.

[@zegzbrutal]

I'm still waiting RF 50mm f1.4, and 20mm prime. If there's a RF 20mm prime worthy to compete with Sony's 20/1.8G. I will ditch all my Sony gear and focus on Canon.

[@paullanoue5228]

Don’t see the big issue with the RF-S lenses. Canon offers RF 16,24,35,50, and 85 mm full frame primes that are inexpensive. The lenses are small, light and can be used without an adapter. They can do double duty on aps-c and full frame bodies.

[@CalTek]

My Canon 80D shutter died and I had choice between 90D or R7 and I bit the bullet and went R7.....yeah some learning curves and buttons/wheels, etc in different areas or gone altogether but I will say it was a small learning curve and this camera, IMO anyways, is pretty easy to get comfortable with and is like night and day over the 80D. I am shooting it with my Sigma 18-35 1.8 and Sigma 70-200 2.8 and LOVE it. The animal tracking and the 30fps on the electronic shutter is amazing and makes me want spring migration of wildlife (especially birds in flight) to hurry up and get here. I also shoot sports so the 15 fps (over the 7 fps on the 80D) on mechanical as well as the 651 AF (over the 45 on the 80D) is a game changer. The 30 FPS on electronic is a nice option to have in your back pocket if the scene allows it (just keep in mind rolling shutter issues)/ Yeah a bit of a hefty price tag here in Canada ($2,500 with the adapter for my Sigma lens) but with my initial testing in the field and at the arena this was well worth it.

[@leokingkong100]

How’s the autofocus with the adapted sigmas? I’m planning on getting the same setup but a little scared it might not work as well with adapted lenses for video. Also, does the sigma 70-200 stabilization work with the R7?

[@CalTek]

​@@leokingkong100 I haven't shot video yet with it......but for photo side AF is great....stabilization as well. The speed at which this camera locks in AF is insane (when comparing to my old 80D with the same lens). Certainly a game changer and a time saver....I imagine video is just the same.

[@leokingkong100]

@@CalTek thanks a lot! 👍

[@evansalmonsen]

There’s an Rf 16mm that’s super compact that I use to vlog on the R7

[@KidPersepolis]

How is the quality with that combination? I'm considering picking up an r7 as my second body, for vlogging and travel vids. Do you think that's better than using an adapter and the ef-s 10-18mm?

[@evansalmonsen]

@@KidPersepolis honestly I’m not 100% sure because I’ve never used the 10-18, but given this is a newer lens and a prime lens at the same price rate I’m gonna assume it’s probably a better image . Also 16mm is also plenttyyy wide for vlogging and I really would not want to go any wider so personally I wouldn’t see the purpose in anything lower than 16mm, 18 is a bit tight but 16 is perfect with room to spare , even if I had 10-18 I’d probably only use it at 16 , and maybe 18 for some photos , but for that I use the sigma 18-35 anyway

[@KidPersepolis]

@@evansalmonsen thanks for the quick response. Being that the selection of lenses specifically made for crop sensors wasn't that impressive, the 10-18 was actually an exception, aside from some distortion which is to be expected on the wide end. I used it a bunch on a Canon 77D for landscapes and whatnot. I played around with the 16 mm you have, but on a Canon R, and I liked it for the price, but I know a lot of people complained about aberration, etc, but again it came down to choice and taste a lot for me. Despite the fact that the r7 and R are about the same price, I'm seriously considering picking up the r7, because I already have a few EFS lenses that I can use on it. Thoughts? How happy are you with it?

[@WilliamJohnston]

Another great video! I personally find the colours in this video over saturated, I don’t know if that’s the particular lut that was used, a look of the R7 colours or just a grading choice. I greatly prefer greens and yellows to be on the slightly more muted side, though I sometimes find myself reducing these manually anyway.

[@patricasmyth4359]

I watched a review of the M6 ii vs the R7. I preferred the greens and yellows on the M6. The autofocus on the R7 is better, but I think I am happy with my M6 ii.

[@gregm6894]

What is interesting to me is that I did a side by side comparison of 'studio scene' images at Imaging Resource, between the R7 and the Olympus OM-1 (m4/3's), and the OM-1 images @ 100% look better in terms of noise, color, and detail at every ISO up to and including ISO 25600. I realize that the OM-1 sells for $600 more, but still -- m4/3's vs APS-C.

[@dmitry.sh.8946]

What do you want from Canon???

[@stevemurnan1702]

A Sony BSI stacked sensor vs Canon old tech is the difference.

[@SenseiEli]

Thank you. I am using this G85 and Thinking about an upgrade to R7... G85 autofocus in video is....

[@Internat_11mektep]

Hello! Which flashlights should I buy for Canon EOS K7?

[@TuinleiBob]

Very direct and to the point. This autofocus in video gives me no reason what so ever to give up my Lumix G9 or S5.

[@reversemyopia]

2.36M dots comes out to 1080x720 3:2 aspect ratio with 3 rgb dots per pixel 2:07

[@fy7589]

The R7 is a helluva good wildlife camera. That's it for it. If you complain about the R7, you have no idea how hard it was even on a full frame dslr back then. R7 is just as good as it gets at this point. I have no complaints. It's just better than any camera ever was back then. That's my take on it.

[@jaekimchi]

What I'm more interested about is the use of Canon 0.71x speedbooster and adapting EF glass.

[@prayagpankaj9237]

Better to get a full frame camera rather than investing so much money on APSCs

[@stephanes.]

Do you think there will be an update for output Prores Raw ?

[@buggersofoz]

Thanks so much! Finally an honest review pointing out some of the quirks which looked off from the get go. For me it's way out of my reach for now (having just switched from M50 to 7D2), but your thoughts already make it less worthy to aspire to in the future. And you still haven't touched some other drawback like appalling small buffer. I really start to wonder why Canon undercooked it so much having given it IBIS, AI AF and other fantastic features...

[@ADivaForLife]

I have the M50 and 7D2 … love them both

[@buggersofoz]

@@ADivaForLife I only loved it until I got the 7D2, now I don't have much use for it at all. AF for bird photography is a hit and miss. I did manage to get a few good shots, but mostly contrasty birds against the blue sky etc. In the foliage, it would miss even bright red parrots. If I was shooting street or portraits more often, I'd probably keep it, but I'm selling the M50.

[@AndyLSB]

6:15 it’s funny how people talk trash about Panasonics autofocus hunting all the time, and here you can clearly see that the R7 is doing the same thing, you can tell on the background and on the GH6 the autofocus is pretty reliable IMO I use it even more and more every time. Great video Jordan ! Say hi to Chris behind the camera for me 💪🏻😂

[@stephanes.]

So true

[@borderlands6606]

Yes, if this was a Lumix camera the comment box would be all over it.

[@MarcoAries]

Looks like the camera was struggling quite a bit in the vlog segment, I guess it was just that specific situation?

[@stewarthinsley6995]

You've not mentioned battery life. What's it like when shooting at a race track and how many shutters do you get per battery? Give or take

[@dominic.shoots]

thank you for putting the actual EVF resolution, i think the measurement unit (dots) confuses a lot of people, maybe worth making a video on it?

[@Zukez]

Do you know how the autofocus performs with older EF mount lenses as opposed to the newer mirrorless lenses?

[@danizsoltlaszlo8355]

Hi in your opinion, which is technically better for wedding photography? thanks

[@MrBrabo1]

Hi! Thanx for the review. Regarding your EF criticism: does that include the EF 100-400 II? Because that would really be a bummer......

[@MrChip1217]

I’ve had good results Vlogging using the EFS 10-18 4.5-5.6 IS lens. Adapted it really is a beast for Vlogging

[@daniellindblom68]

2,36 MP EVF and that new joystick/wheel and no lock on the mode dial are deal breakers for me.

[@dannyli9424]

Same here, super annoying and really hate that new style control layout.

[@Pmeyer1226]

I’ve had my R7 for about 3 weeks now, I use it for sports photography. Not only are these not deal breakers, it just sounds like whining to me. I have not once knocked the selection wheel out of the mode I was in, the detents are pretty pronounced, you’d have to be a bumbling all thumbs kinda person to do this “constantly”. The new wheel location I find pretty accessible (I’m right eyed and right handed, lefties may not agree). I’ve been using a nano motor ef 70-300 mostly, and have had very few AF tracking issues with it, and that includes shooting through a backstop net locking on to a pitcher with a batter, ump, and catcher in the foreground and middle infielders and out fielders in the background. I have ripped of bursts in mechanical shutter mode with no missed shots (40 plus frames). The keeper rate on the R7 is VERY good (he didn’t seem to say anything about that). For a $1500 camera to be continually compared to its R brothers that cost thousands more, says a lot about its capabilities. It does feel a cheaper in hand than what I’m used to, but I can live with that.

[@jesoby]

Could be best for macro with built in focus bracketing and stacking plus IBIS and crop sensor.

[@Penguins247]

I found the focus pulsing in the Vlogging section very distracting. That background was constantly pulling in and out of focus.

[@850Tech]

Compared to the Sony A7 IV is this better! Cos both are same priced in my country?

[@jeffrey3205]

Jordan, can you switch the video to left, photo to right and the off switch to the middle?

[@robcoventry574]

Good catch on the ergo buttons and lenses. Hopefully Canon adapts.

[@joylox]

I'm probably going to be getting mixed up with the power switch because I have the R and I change my ISO with the dial that's in the same position on the top right. I'll be curious to see how it plays with my Sigma lenses, I have a 50, and a 150-600 and I've been using them more than most of my RF lenses. I won't be getting any APS-C specific lenses, where I have a full frame, I want to make sure all my lenses work on both, so I think my best bet would be the 15-35mm. Although I really want to see how it works with the Sigma 50 as the bokeh is fantastic, and using the R body, the photos looked identical to Canon's RF 50 1.2, it's just that Sigma is 1.4 and heavier, but that's a small price to pay considering that price is basically half and I got mine used.

[@theoneandonly09]

Thank you for sharing this. I'm really considering. I may have missed it but how was the battery life while taking stills and recording video?

[@TomReichner]

Question: at 1:15 you mention moving your autofocus point. I thought that this camera had both subject detect and eye detect AF ... so if it automatically focuses on your subject, why would you ever need to use or move or select an AF point?automatically focuses on the subject

[@RodneyDugmore]

Interestingly I have no problems with the mode dial or the new control ring- might be more a fault with the reviewer than the camera. The on/off switch and the AF/DOf switch on the other hand i personally have found to be a bit annoying. Coming from an optical viewfinder I am not sold on the electronic one yet. I feel underwhelmed by the sharpness of the 18-150 at the wide end hope they bring out some better quality options for the wide end. My EF primes 400 F5.6 & 600 F4 seem to work flawlessly am happy with the AF and sharpness.

[@RP-ms7lu]

Pictures look sharp and rich color and bright. Happy Pictures. Tempting!

[@ADivaForLife]

Great video 🙌🏽🙌🏽, I’m still confused 😕 even more ., I do sports and weddings ., I have an 7D2 and 90D ., I’m deciding R7 or R6? Your saying it’s not worth placing the RF lenses on the R7 because it’s a crop?

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Hey guys, I'm wondering if it's possible to get some f-log2 sample footage when the final review for the X-H2S comes out. I know you don't usually do this, but I think a lot of people would love to play with those files on Davinci and see how this new profile performs

[@CrisURace]

Have this camera for bit over 2 weeks, got used with tit works like a charm, it's amazing!

[@jameslong1540]

what lens line up for a crop sensor would be consider complete offering? primes - 12mm/16mm / 24mm/35mm .... and Zoom Xmm-Xmm?

[@dannyli9424]

I totally agree with your on the new AF selection joy stick and exposure comp dial, it's super annoying and I really hate it. hope that's one time deal on the R7 but not the new style going forward, did you find the AF-On button also feels weird? really hope there will be a high end APS-C coming in the near future that's has a much better body ergo and control layout.

[@Jay-xq1dc]

Didn't watch the whole review, did they mention anything about the bad rolling shutter effects from this camera? I know we could turn on mech shutter but it's limited uses before needs repair.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

Wow that vlog test was like watching my Lumix G9...but worse! How did they manage that with phase detect?!

[@zegzbrutal]

They pick the worse clip possible, check out others, R7 video capabilities is great

[@vaidehiarts]

Thanks Jordan! I am curious to know what you don't like about the full frame RF glass (primes, for examples). They do offer pretty compact 16, 24, 35 and 50 primes, for example. Plus those will give us the option to continue using these lenses if we switch to full frame. Is there any decrease in performance or sharpness in using those with the R7?

[@steohara6353]

He says it “it doesn’t make sense with apsc”

[@SteveHiemstraAKAspeg]

They’re fine they are just big and expensive. If you have or might have a full frame sibling then it makes a lot more sense.

[@vaidehiarts]

@@steohara6353 Thanks 'Jordan'. I know what Jordan said about FF lenses in general, but there are cheap, compact (light weight) full frame primes in RF that might fit the bill, so I was curious about his opinions on those :)

[@CharlezRichard]

Did you see Peter Gregg's review on the Canon R7? Can you explain why the Canon R7 interprets the "BLUE" LEDs as Purple instead of BLUE? True colors are the most important feature of any camera. Cheers 🍻.

[@echo.charlie]

About the video / on / off dial switch, can you customize this dial so that if you were to accidentally switch to video, you can specify a custom action, such as ‘power on’?

[@derekderek6967]

Jordan keep focus in video aspect of all camera on the market, it is nice to see your progress in presence, comoare to old days, 10years ago .

[@Brianmatthewlewis]

What do you think about speed-boosters for canon r7. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography. Reviews please? 🙏

[@Stu32]

Question on the lens lineup. Do the RF lens work with this camera? The comments about having to use an adaptor for EF lenses makes sense, but was the issue with RF lens mainly the price?

[@alexanwo]

For a wide prime, IE for vlogging, what about the RF 16mm? It's "affordable" and compact. Is 25mm equivalent not wide enough?

[@danieldougan269]

I want to know how well this autofocuses with the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 EF lens!

[@jameslong1540]

I did try the EF 8mm-15mm fisheye --- not to bad ... 12mm-24mm field of view

[@BrendanMacWade]

Hey I know a great Japanese lens maker that can produce bright prime and zoom lenses for this mount with APS-C sensors. Pitty Canon won't let them do it. I can't but into Canon's new APS-C platform until there is more glass. And by that time, maybe the bodies will be a little smaller as well. We'll see.

[@mattdebyl8806]

DPR act like the AF is a big upgrade to the M6 II. It isn't. It literally just gives you a few more initial box options, which becomes totally irrelevant once it starts tracking something (it switches to an object box anyway).

[@prasannakumar-sunny]

I'm not a professional photographer. I own a Canon M50, which is lovely, but I want to upgrade to the Canon R7 for it's IBIS, Animal Eye detect, Larger Battery etc... will it be a smart upgrade? considering that for a hobbyist, cellphone cameras may soon beat the R7 in a couple of years. Kindly advise. Thanks in advance.

[@Leptospirosi]

With a 1.63 crop and 3x2 format, I struggle to see the advantages over a 3x4 M43 sensor, unless, may be, for landscape photography where the side strips could be some how used. In exchange you get a huge lens mount with very large optics, mostly for FF or with El Cheapo kit lenses which are proprietary and cannot be used on the FF Canon cameras.

[@petersuvara]

That vlog AF while you were walking shows bad focus hunting... Not as bad as DSLRs but really surprised how bad it was.

[@Daweisstebescheid]

It will never exist a perfect Camera ☝️

[@workingwiththelight3119]

I am waiting for full frame replacement to Canon RP.

[@borderlands6606]

Canon never built serious lenses for their aps-c DSLRs, and they had years to do so. They were mostly keenly priced glass like the 10-18mm and the 24mm and 40mm pancakes, or you had to go EF and accept the crop and price - in which case why not go full frame? I'm not against apsc-c, I recently bought a tiny 100D to accept those same pancake lenses, but they need some no-compromise wide aperture primes if they're to compete in the video market.

[@emotionblur7214]

That's strange about the EF 85mm f1.8. I use the very similar EF 10mm f2 on my R6 and the AF is spot on the very most of the times.

[@leric4205]

La meilleure "review" internationale de cet appareil 😉👍

[@GOTOHOBBIES]

As an aviation photographer, this camera sounds good but considering canon have made look like a kids camera, the controls are badly designed and placed. I do not like the control setup it looks poorly done and turned me right off from the start, not only that I need a camera that works for me but sadly I will not be buying one. This review has helped me decide and I am grateful, thank you.

[@allytenner8421]

Do ef-s lenses have a crop on the r7?For example the ef-s 10-18mm