CANON EOS R7 Real World AF REVIEW: Just As Good As R3 R5 R6?!

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I took the Canon EOS R7 out into the Real World to Review it's Auto Focus. I went to a Philadelphia Phillies and Union game. I used the kit 18-150 RFs, Canon 70-200 2.8 RF and 400 2.8 RF. How did the Auto Focus hold up and is it as good as the R3, R5 and R6??? How's it feel in comparison to something like the Nikon Z9?
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[@froknowsphoto]

I mentioned SUB $2,000 camera in the video, when in fact, the body only is $1500. I was looking at the kit when I made the sub $2,000 statement. So this camera in fact is only $1,500 which is insane for what it offers.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

Hopefully I'll get mine.....someday.....preferably soon....

[@ericmorales1934]

Amen to this info and amen to me getting it soon

[@borocotochacha]

In United States... There´s is a world outside of it with 3 times more taxes on it and import fees. Nice review Jared!

[@swistedfilms]

In your older video about shooting concerts you mentioned that you like to stop the aperture down a little. With the new AF systems do you feel like you would open up the aperture?

[@Philtho]

@@Bad_Wolf_Media If you have Best Buys in your area, check them. They've been getting a LOT of them in stock this past week. Camera shops as well. They're popping up finally.

[@timothyrat]

I had a 7D mark II and if I hadn't already touched an R5, I would be in heaven with the R7. Just having autofocus, EVF, and rotating touch screen. Incredible camera for $1500. I think for anyone who has been holding onto a 7D mark II and wants to get into mirrorless (and can't afford the R5 or R6 or doesn't want full frame), will not be disappointed. Just keep in mind that for bird photography, beware shooting birds in flight in electronic shutter mode. It really warps the background and their wings.

[@Goodwishes67]

I’m in that boat! Just went from the 7D to the R7. Mirrorless definitely helps so much more with seeing the image in the view finder! Saves me a lot of time and helps me to get more shots !

[@timothyrat]

@@Goodwishes67 oh, that's so exciting!! I bet you're as floored with the autofocus as I was. So many more keeper images. And when you're shooting wildlife, having the simulated exposure in the EVF makes it instant feedback so you nail the exposure way more often too (especially with birds with a bright sky as the background). Congrats for getting into mirrorless 👏

[@Goodwishes67]

Thank you! Yes it’s so helpful honestly! It’s saves me such a headache sometimes trying to get focus! I shoot primarily bald eagles and went they hunt it’s so fast and i need the focusing system that the R7 has! Eventually looking to go to the R5 but for now, I’ll try this out!

[@Philtho]

The rolling shutter issue has proven to be overblown. Most of the birding forums see it, but it's not bad as people are saying. It happens, it's rare. If you're still not convinced, you can just use mechanical shutter and not have to ever worry. I have yet to experience it, or at least, notice it.

[@timothyrat]

@@Philtho to notice issues with rolling shutter, it really depends on what you are shooting and how. For what I shoot, it's not great and I'm shooting on the R5. So I'll use electronic shutter for some things but I mostly use mechanical or electronic first curtain.

[@Adam-qs5ir]

Been researching this camera for my step up purchase. I mainly do landscape and wildlife, but your video told me more useful info than I have seen on other channels. Sports and many wildlife shooting scenarios are similar with the speed and sometimes erratic motion. Very helpful information. Thank you.

[@Photographer856]

You're always extremely entertaining as well as knowledgeable! Great revire for the R7. So very happy you're in the Philadelphia area also! You're the best that Philly has to offer!!

[@matthewhigbee9744]

Just rented and shot with the R7. This is one I will be buying. The buffer fills quickly but it is manageable. I used the RF 100-500mm with it and that gave me a lot of reach on the long end acting like a 800mm f11. No problems with run and gun wildlife shooting and even with the smaller equivalent aperture I could still get decent subject separation. Found minimal difference in weight and similar size to the R5 (no grip). Took me a minute to figure out the controls and set up back-button focus but very usable. Body only for $1500 makes it a deal and a great second camera body.

[@mike.k]

Canon! People needs new RF-S glass! Just body is not enough! And not everyone has like 3.000$ for RF full frame L lens! Needs affordable 1.4 or 1.8 prime lenses as well as good zooms!

[@jayog4576]

Sigma and Viltrox need to step up and give the people what they desire

[@cellphonehistorian1491]

They already bunch of cheap primes that are good and affordable

[@Tapirrr]

What we really need is canon to allow Sigma and Tamron to make lenses for the rf mount!

[@mike.k]

@@Tapirrr agree! Latest sigma 18-50 2.8 and 10-18 2.8 for rf-s and I would be totally happy! Plus those 1.4 from sigma and would be awesome!

[@jhenry248]

Received my R7 June 24, body only and not having a battery grip like my 7DMk2 doesn't even bother me. The auto focus system and how efficient it can communicate and transfer photos to my smart phone is something that I very happy with and my capture rate is much higher shooting birds in flight. I paired with the RF800 f/11 and the reach is insane.

[@jeffwisener1378]

Thank you for a practical accessment of the autofocus capabilities if the R7 vs other cameras, most excellent!

[@matthewbell1968]

Thank you Jared that's very informative,hope my r7 arrives in the UK sooner rather than later!

[@charlesclausen2973]

Loved the video Jared. You focused on the AF for this review, so are you going to do an overall review of the camera? Keep on keeping on.

[@PromoMoviescomau]

Love the analysis Jared - you're the king.

[@chasingmanhattan]

I picked up an R7 a couple months ago and after two weddings, a running track shoot, and a few model sessions I can say that I love shooting with it. I’d love to see how this camera pairs with canon’s sharpest prime glass given that it’s resolving north of 80mp on a full frame basis. Thinking of making a 1.2 purchase to bring out the full potential of the sensor.

[@kennethgnielsen]

I was wondering what the compact density of the R7 chip would be equivalent to for full frame and I think your 'north of 80mp' is probably right. Thanks for that.

[@travisjohnson266]

When I saw you hit the goal through the EVF I knew it was gonna be a banger!

[@simonmaduxx6777]

For Lightroom users worried about the sharpness from the results of these r7 photos, here is something to note. I'm a pixel peeping monster, editing over 20k photos over past few years..so I do a ton of comparisons between the six or so canon bodies that I have. Those that are very very very familiar with Lightroom would have noticed that the sharpness default amount was tuned up or maybe around Lightroom 6, but definitely for cc/classic. The old standard was 25, the new standard is 40. The issue is that having your default sharpness this high definitely makes pictures look a lot better especially on newer monitors like apples laptops etc. At the same time, it also increases the noise visibility, especially in clear skies and shadows. For the purpose of accurate focus comparisons between new camera files and older files - when I adopted LR classic to replace my version 5.4, I made a custom import preset that only reverts the sharpness back to the old 25. With that sharpness level now being even between my newer Canon files and my older ones, I can do a more accurate review in terms of the image quality. If this doesn't sound like it makes a big deal to you, that's fine. But again the higher that sharpness setting is, the more noise you're going to see. The r7 uses the same overburdened sensor as the 32 MP sensor in a m62. The pixel smearing will reduce your overall sharpness (google it). That said, the higher default sharpness for Lightroom will cover up for it but your shadows and skies are going to look way worse. Again those very familiar with Lightroom will understand exactly what I'm talking about. Others who never paid attention and just defaulted to whatever Lightroom does this is probably not useful info for you. The main reason I bring this up is because I downloaded Jared's first round of test images and they were terrible in terms of sharpness and focus accuracy. I was super disappointed to see no change in image quality at all for 22 2022 Canon crop. (colors are worse also). They are using the old sensor Tech and so even with great glass, the pictures are going to look the same as older Canon crop cameras. Just like you guys I have been looking to upgrade from my M bodies, and once again Canon does half steps leaving me as a frustrated customer who really wants to upgrade his gear but sees no real progress in image quality. Hopefully this information is useful to you. Cheers.

[@xmj6830]

I totally agree with you, the pictures taken by Jared are NOT sharp, they are pixelated at low ISO and grainy. Not Jared’s fault. I don’t see ANY improvement from my 7Dii ! I bet what ever you want but pass the marketing buzz of KZbin videos, this camera will be short lived…

[@Philtho]

@@xmj6830 Went from 7d2 to R7 and it's night and day. I don't know what else to tell you. Go shoot some 5000 ISO soccer games with your 7d2 and see how many come back in focus, and how good that 5000 ISO looks.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@@xmj6830 yeah I dissected those first raws that he gave us a link to and they were overall pretty bad. At least in terms of focus, it was soft soft everywhere except for one or two frames. But as I mentioned I don't think it's necessarily the focus I think it's the effect of the pixel smearing at least for the r7 files. The r10 files I would expect to look as sharp and normal as any other Canon crop since it shouldn't have that pixel smearing density issue. Another thing is I've noticed that the color has really suffered on the recent m series. I have all the files to compare for myself as I have a m1, a M50 and m62. Some sleuths in one of the photo forums actually figured out that the color responses different in the latest Canon crops also that's why the colors aren't as great.

[@xmj6830]

@@Philtho It’s certainly not night and day! I still get as good pictures with the 7Dii. And remember it’s not all about AF system to make an exceptional picture. The R7 is no other than a 90D mirrorless with much improved AF system. That’s it!

[@Philtho]

@@xmj6830 lol you havent used one, obviously.. good lord

[@thb5505]

Thanks for the video. It would be interesting ti see a photo/camera comparison between the r7 and the r or rp!

[@thesupremeginge]

Awesome job, you put this out the day after my R7 arrived. 🙌🙌

[@martinlee1775]

Although I shoot with Nikon, always enjoy seeing what’s available with your excellent, informative reviews. I believe you do an excellent job at showing what you can do with the ‘entry level’ bodies. YoFro!!

[@kyohiromitsu4010]

He should test the R7 autofocus with a Fast lens to see if he would get the same autofocus speed. The shallower the DOF the harder to focus.

[@cathco9]

A very fair and honest review. I've been using my R7 since the release date. I've keep seeing the camera compared to the R5 which is really apples to oranges for the reasons you mentioned. For $1500, the R7 is a good camera. Thanks Jared!

[@745images]

I think it’s a big compliment to the R7 that people even bother to make the comparison to the R5 and R6, then factor in that it’s pretty comparable in many areas and with faster frame rates I think that the R7 is a superb camera and for the price it’s punching well above its weight. Just look at the price difference between what it’s being compared to.

[@cathco9]

@@745images I have both the R5 and the R7. I sold my R6 to buy the R5. Both the R7 and R5 serve different purposes for me. You are right in that the R7 does pack a punch, great value of features for the price. I was hoping with the new 1.6.0 firmware update that the R5 would have gotten the AF tracking that the R7 has. I can't understand why Canon didn't do this.

[@cjm8160]

@@cathco9 Out of curiosity, why did you sell the R6? Was there something lacking in it, or did you just want to build up enough cash to buy the R5?

[@cathco9]

@@cjm8160 I primarily shoot birds which are always far away so I do a lot of cropping. My R6 did a great job. I kind of felt like if I went for the higher megapixels of the R5, the photos would be that much better. In many cases, they are, but did I really need the R5. Probably not. If you're considering the R6, I think you'd be very happy with it. I know I was. Sometimes I think I should have just kept it.

[@alansach8437]

I think this will be an excellent back up or companion camera to the R5 or R6. The 1.6 crop is helpful with small birds and wildlife.

[@lweleven3423]

Excellent as always , I was thinking of a RF but this may have swayed me to a R7 , I’ve also got some Crop sensor lenses I can use where they would have been redundant if I had gone for a RF

[@BakerK]

Love your channel and reviews. I love the way your using the autofocus setup. How do you have your settings setup for autofocus ? Thank you so much

[@kennethgnielsen]

Nice review of a totally amazing camera. Deserves the excitement for results which are very very good.

[@CrisURace]

I've preordered it already. Can't wait!

[@Hodenkat]

As an R7 owner I'm happy with the performance Canon was able to give me at this price point. It's actually kind of amazing how good it is for the money. Not being a professional photographer, I struggle with the high cost of the RF glass that I would like to have so I look forward to other makers possibly producing RF mount lenses in the future. Full frame with this level of autofocus isn't in my future either, so this will be a long-term keeper for me. Great test review. I think the R7 held up pretty well!

[@simonmaduxx6777]

Unfortunately canon is blocking 3rd party glass. Your best bet is adapting EF glass which works perfectly well, with the caveat they will be FF lenses. For landscapes though, my trusty 10-22 EFS has done wonders for me since the 7d days and could also work great now. 50 is too long for crop, and 35 is weird imho. There is no equivalent to the awesome 22/f2. Oddly enough, EFM has more critical lens lengths then RFS. Even the kit lens is better than the RFS downgraded trash. Happy shooting

[@rui7773]

I want to buy one but they say the R7 has post F5 diffraction! Did you notice this?

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

A number of users are now reporting AF pulsing with the Sigma 150-600 C and Canon's EF/RF adaptor on the R7 and other R bodies e.g. see Duade Paton's excellent series. Others (e.g. Gordon Drake from DPReview) have reported similar problems with older Canon EF lenses on the R7, which may only manifest when using eye tracking AF. I loved my Sigma 150-600C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di for birding. But because I wanted to take full advantage of bird eye tracking, I ultimately upgraded to the Canon RF 100-500. While pricey, it's worth it if you can swing it.

[@honeybadger1656]

@@wellingtoncrescent2480 Duade was able to stop most of the pulsing thanks to Simon. So at least there is a fix for the issue. Just ordered the 150-600mm contemporary for the r7 that I will buy later this month. Coming from a 1300d this will be a huge upgrade. Been using the 1300d since 2018 so I can't wait to have more keepers than I have at the moment.

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

@@honeybadger1656 Thanks. I saw Duade's fix. Though improved, I still found the pulsing annoying, which prompted me to trade in my Sigma 150-600 C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di (my "birding" lenses) for the RF 100-500. In the lead-up to Black Friday, I also benefited from a 20% off sale from a national retailer here in Canada, which brought the price of RF 100-500 down to more manageable levels. Despite some resentment at being "forced" to upgrade, I see definite advantages. Compared to third-party EF lenses, the dual response motors are more responsive; the lens IS is better co-ordinated with the R7 IBIS, which matters for video; and the image quality is just breathtaking. Having long extolled the virtues of the Sigma, I think the upgrade is worth it, if you can manage it. I was lucky, in that my wife decided it would be easier to only lug around one birding lens :)

[@HessiDude]

I agree with you on removing noise with traditional software. It detracts from the image rather than making images better. But after seeing what something like topazlabs’ denoise and sharpen can do I’ve jumped ship.

[@gabrielkarczewski4453]

It also depends on the kind of photography one does - I use traditional noise reduction on nightclub photos, which both reduces noise and makes the skin look a bit smoother

[@GalacticoUC]

if you think topaz is gold, you neeeeed to try dxo pure raw 2, is another level

[@asystasyorg]

As mostly an abstract/architectural/landscape photographer I routinely use denoising software BUT I also see Jared's point - it can definitely be overused. Personally, the only reason I have Topaz AI is because it works on TIFs and JPGs (which is a huge plus for me). I also have PureRAW3, which (along with the new LrC Denoise) pretty much outdoes Topaz AI in every way with RAW files.

[@jeffolson4731]

I have had the R7 for two weeks now. I use it for wildlife with a Sigma 150-600C lens and I have found the autofocus to be shockingly good. My keeper rate is much higher now. I have "tested" the limits so I have attempted shots I would normally not even try. Some work, some don't, but that is how you figure out what the camera will do. I have even shot at ISOs up to 20,000, yes, they were noisy. I have found the battery life to be good. At 1570 images the battery still shows 2 bars.

[@TheMrNeffels]

I just got my r7 yesterday so not as much testing but agree so far. Even with my sigma 150-600 which is supposed to have focus issues on new mirrorless cameras my keeper rate is way up and I can usually just point the camera in general direction of subject and it locks on instantly

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

Thanks for the feedback. As you know, a number of reviewers (e.g. Duade Paton, Jan Wegener, Glenn Bartley) have pointed viewers to Sigma's web site, which claims that their 150-600 mm Contemporary has issues with the R7's bird eye tracking. Although they all reported good performance with the other AF modes, they claimed only intermittent success with bird eye tracking. Since I love this lens on my M6 II (with otherwise has similar specs), can you comment on your experience with this focus mode specifically?

[@timothyrat]

@@wellingtoncrescent2480 I've been using the R5 with the sigma 150-600, which has the same AF focus issues. The keeper rate is MUCH higher than with my previous DSLR, 7D mark II. I definitely get some soft shots because of the AF pulsing but plenty of keepers too. I'm going to do as Duade suggested and do bursts of shots instead of my typical 1 or 2 shots in continuous shutter. I will eventually get an RF supertelephoto but I'm waiting to see what other lenses Canon releases.

[@defiant10k]

Do you use R series glass or have an adapter?

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

Thanks, that's helpful. I'm hoping that Sigma can fix it with firmware. My other wildlife lens is a Tamron 100-400 4.5-6.3, but I haven't heard any reports yet as to how well well it tracks with the R7. To be honest, I would like the bird eye tracking feature, but I'm otherwise delighted with the performance of the M6 II (which also has a 32 MP sensor, 15 fps, and an excellent keeper rate).

[@JuanSanchez-zz3me]

I'm a nikon fan boy But when the d500 came out, with af on par with the d5, no one got mad that a crop sensor enthusiasts body had comparable af to the 6500 dollar body. I'm not mad that the r7 is being compared to the Z9 af wise. If anything, hopefully it'll push nikon to have the same af on future lower end bodies

[@Gremlack13]

I am tempted by this camera. I hope they come out with something like an rp2, or r2, that are on par with the speed of the r7 and r10, as they seem to be moving to letting their slightly lower level cameras also have pretty good specs and speed.

[@Crimson_aries88]

Same

[@MexicanPoro]

Never been more excited for a review.

[@stephennowlan2637]

That was great to see your EVF during the shoots. It makes me wonder if the new canons are that much better than my R, or if I have something set up wrong or there is something wrong with my R. When I am shooting 5fps with back button focus, once I’ve got shots in the buffer (not full), if I stop shooting to move the focus point I loose the EVF and basically the camera until the buffer is completely empty a few seconds later. Is this normal for the R? Instead of recomposing to see the reaction at the end of a race, I have to continue shooting straight through those extra seconds and hope my focus point hasn’t jumped to another athlete before the finish, otherwise I miss the finish completely. Love what I’m seeing, definitely plan to add the R7 to my gear, awesome review.

[@johngonzales7130]

i'm glad canon treats great af as a standard not a luxury

[@MonroesArtStudio]

I don't think I've ever really shot over 2k ISO and honestly everything you showed at "high" ISO is perfectly usable. I am jazzed about this R7. Can't wait to get my chance

[@groundhoppingwlkp3622]

go to basketball game in lower leagues and you can easily have iso 6400 on F2.8 ;)

[@MonroesArtStudio]

@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 I would never 😝

[@deekster4457]

I know I'm comparing apples to orange but I second this. I have an R7 on the way and this video made me 1000 times more excited to get it. I'm parting ways with my rebel t7. But the ISO situation I never shot over 800 ISO because the images would look horrible (in my opinion) tons of distortion that'd be visible even being printed out. I do alot with car photography and nature/wildlife photography. So constant variation in lighting with interior photos or photos taken where there is a lot of shade and bright sunshine mix and the camera being able to keep the image pretty crisp is another awesome upgrade. Also haven't made up my mind on lens yet if I go with the rf 15-35 f2.8 or the rf 24-70 f2.8 as some of the areas I shoot with cars like at events get pretty tight at times. My go to for the t7 is an EF 17-55. So having the added reach is nice. But not having to stand 20 feet from the car for a full subject image would be nice too. Any suggestions?

[@MonroesArtStudio]

@@deekster4457 I've been using it for a couple months now. Highly impressed. I even did a night shoot with it. Stellar performance!!

[@nimuil]

Great video. NR is everything, from sensor making to post processing. We simply can't avoid it.

[@vimalneha]

Good video with useful points. Thank you. I am waiting for the next version, as I feel the current R7 is the first APSC camera and the next will be vastly improved. Canon R and RP had a great follow-up camera like R5 and R6.

[@waynedettman6472]

Great job,my wife bought me a r7 for my birthday, it's very good, I use it with my 100-400 ll for birds the autofocus is excellent.

[@joepublisher166]

I noticed the exp. Compensation moving back and forth Jared. Were you controlling this in the video of the soccer and baseball game or was the camera doing that automatically ? Thanks! Btw: Great, excellent review! I want this camera, just can’t afford it right now.

[@urumps9922]

Been using tbe R7 and RF100-400 lens for past few weeks. Tracking on the screen looks good however photos taken are soft. Difficult to get tack sharp eyes of wildlife. Been trying a few methods but I have to conclude this is the limit of camera. Good reach but too bad the focusing dont match. So for picky shooters, can look some where else. Thanks for a great video as always!

[@hk530]

This camera is exactly what I need!

[@davidvien6633]

when i see you on you tube i started watch all you film i event traveled 600 mill to go to Conowingo dame thank you

[@mvp_kryptonite]

Nice review! Iv had mine a week now and it’s so good. Miss the grip tho! What lens was you using where it stated 11mm? Also did you get your “clothes dirty”?

[@yusripp]

I've ordered the R7 body and still waiting for it to arrive. For me to add another body beside Rp is already good. I'm not professional photografer. I mainly shoot birds and aviation photos. I will use it with my existing RF 100-500 and some 1.8 lens. What I want is the fps and AF speed with the ibis. It was a great packages in just 1.5k. It was the best offer for people like me wanna have some fun and save some money. My target next would be the 70-200 2.8.

[@manjacovus5342]

Another great video, thanks Jared. When the sensor shutter in my R7 slides back, the sensor mechanism swings into place very forcefully, shaking slightly. This is my first Canon mirrorless: is it supposed to work that way? I can't find a ref to it anywhere. Apologies if I missed it in your film. Any info gratefully received. Thanks.

[@andywe7524]

Thanks Jared, beautiful review. I have a R6 with some EF L-Glass from 16 to 400mm. I sold all my old gear (non L-Glass and DSLR's) to buy the R6 and am quite happy with it. In the end, 20 Mpx are somewhat restricting and I consider to obtain more Pixels. A used 5Ds would be nice but outdated. The R7 looks promising. Thanks for helping to decide where to go! :-) Greetingfs from Germany - Andreas

[@simonmaduxx6777]

I feel your pain. For nearly $3,000 us, the body only has 20 megapixels. Cmon. I've been using 18 and 20 megapixel canons for so many years, that is not an upgrade at all. My m62 has 32 megapixels even though the resolution honestly isn't any better I almost always buy the one level below the top camera because the one at the top is usually beyond expensive. But with the r6? Only if my 5d3 fell off a cliff or something. Even the 5d3 has 22. When Canon cuts corners they do it in the absolute worst way possible. Them and apple should be really good friends.

[@DamoMatthewsPhotography]

@@simonmaduxx6777 Funny you say that, my Canon 800D fell into ocean so I went out and got the R6. I use it for Landscapes & Astro mainly and cant complain about the 20mp what so ever I came from quite a entry level camera but it was still a downgrade in MP 800D having 24 vs R6s 20 Anyway for me personally even tho I shoot landscape which is normally something where u want more MP No issues! And it's a great Astro camera too because it's lower noise than the R5

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@@DamoMatthewsPhotography glad you're enjoying the camera. Honestly I could get one, but since I shoot mostly landscape, the bigger file sizes allowing for more detail was the main goal and the flippy screen of course LOL. And to be honest it's nearly $3,000. That's how much my work critical MacBook cost so it just wasn't an option. To your point, the pixels are bigger on the R6 and that's why the image quality is better is the simple way to put it. I have noticed that even on my M50 and m62 as compared to my old original M body, the colors and the image quality are not as good in my opinion. Tinier pixels come with sacrifices. This r5/6 IQ difference was actually noticed on DPreviews test charts as well. At the end of the day I'm not totally against the R6 as a body, but it has less MP than my 5d3 and it still bothers me for the cost. But you won't hear me out here saying it's a bad camera it's definitely not. If I was back in SG doing my landscapes I will in mind having one I'll tell you that.

[@DamoMatthewsPhotography]

@@simonmaduxx6777 Yeah that's completely understandable and I know one day when I can afford the next upgrade I'll definitely notice the difference! I am looking at getting a 5dmk 3 or 4 as my second body because you still can't beat their tuffness and they're fullframe high mp Even tho R6 is weather sealed I'd trust a 5d in a storm alot more!

[@mastergogoy6166]

@@DamoMatthewsPhotography iirc, I read somewhere that R6's sealing is comparable to the 6D line and the R5's is to the 5D line..

[@VV_460]

Hey, Very informative video...Can/will you review the r10 ? (If you do the review, please include a comparison with the a6400, Z50 and The RP) Thanks:)

[@michaelporter8242]

Nikon Z9 $5,499, Canon R3 $5,999, Canon R5 $3,899: all these bodies are far more expensive than the $1,4999 R7 is (3.6x, 4x, and 2.6x respectively). The R7 looks like it is an amazing value.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

until you realize the crop lenses for it are bad, and the sensor tech is a decade old. remember, the r7 has 32mp~ (6,900px wide) did you see 32mp worth of detail in there? nope..because of this thing called "pixel smearing", which happens on super high density sensors super tiny pixels light gathering bleeds into other pixels, so unless you are very, VERRRYY still, chances are the smearing makes images softer than they should be. + Canons AA filter, to make it even softer. Look back at jareds first sample pictures with the eyes..they were super blurry. my point is its more than just the AF..its the sensor and tech around it that will determine your actual image quality. Lenses cant correct for sensor limitations, and vice versa. Even with Ibis.

[@borocotochacha]

@@simonmaduxx6777 that's what most people don't know neither understand. Those who will be ordering bodies with this kind of sensor and have ever tried a good one, are misleading information. Many will use R7 with 7.1 end, even F11... unusable files compare to others. So they will try to jump into Full Frame, is Canon strategy's sin launch on MILC

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@@borocotochacha I've had these conversations with fellows on the DP review forums, and to be honest a lot of people literally just can't see it. I know there's not a lot of people like me, my background is in digital design so I'm used to dealing with pixels and images at 100% all the time. It actually makes it easier for me to judge image quality because everything's at 100 and has been for 20 years now LOL. I see every nook and cranny of these files and it's no lie, the combination of shutter slap and slight movement plus pixel smearing means that many people are using these cameras and outputting soft images and since they're looking at them at small sizes they have no idea. For my Instagram the last Mile on my output is exporting at either 9:16 or 4:5. But soft images always have a certain look at that size also. This thing some photographer is called normalizing for comparison sake, will not make backup sharpness for a soft image at least not compared to a naturally sharp image. Once I add some additional sharpness at his native smaller size, you will never know that the source file had issues. But that's the magic of editing it isn't it? However for me and those of us that understand, the source file is everything. Just because the image will ultimately get shown on Instagram doesn't mean that it won't be pulled out of the archives for a book a poster etc.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@WhistleBit not super sure understand the phone pixel thing. So many phones are using fake 100 megapixel cameras that at this point it's all just a bunch of marketing speak. Don't forget all of the processing that's tossed on top of it to make it look good. Don't get me wrong is that really deep depth of field can make for some really nice phone pictures. But then you take a raw file with it, put that in a raw editor.. and you really see what you're dealing with.. it's not pretty.

[@michaelporter8242]

@@simonmaduxx6777 it's pretty clear that the presentation is about autofocus performance, not anything else. Picture quality appears to be fine. If it doesn't meet your personal quality needs, you're free to buy another body. Remember that people can be satisfied with "good enough" and that the group this camera is for. It's not meant to perform the same as an R3 or R5 at the $1500 price point.

[@sumanbera8063]

Waiting for this

[@Miltonbosss]

You had the iso at 2k for the girl in the end! That’s amazing quality for that number. With great lighting you’ll get smoother less grainy noise

[@fy7589]

I've upgraded to this camera yesterday from a Rebel T7 and it's yet to arrive but I'm damn sure that it was a worthwhile upgrade.

[@paramounttechnicalconsulti5219]

R7 and R10. Started with an AE-1, which was a mule! Drop it in mud, rain, hurricane, desert heat - it still works 40 year later! Finally moved to digital with a couple of EOS Rebels: much less than a year of life; forget "Rain", a drizzle or humidity abovwe 49.9999999% sent them to the great beyond. I then learned the new planned-obsolescence term "weather sealing" the hard way. It was hard to wrap my mind around the fact that a camera company would make a camera that I was supposed to know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES could I ever take it out of the box or (gasp!!!) take it outside! Here is what I really want to knwo about the R-"crooked numbers" series. Did on drop of sweat fall uopn it? Did you take any pictures outside the Zero-Humidity of Death Valley? Was there a single water unbound molecule within a square mile? If so, did it immediately go wonky and have to be sent to the North Pole for repair?

[@nordic5490]

My R5 isnt completely weather sealed

[@RFGfotografie]

Basically what you get is a 80D for mirrorless camera's here. So I want to have it because I love the 80D with my 100-400 lens, it works SO well.

[@JustinStarrPhotography]

Was this video made after after your recent interview video? Because it looked like you definitely lied down on the ground for some of those dugout shots to make the players seem larger than life! Very cool :)

[@budthecyborg4575]

I have to wonder if the only reason they didn't put a stacked sensor in this was just to protect the value of the R3. One of the main advantages of APS-C is the sensors are cheap to make, so making a stacked sensor R7 would cost a lot less than the R3 sensor. No doubt everyone would be a lot happier with the R7 if it were stacked sensor at $2,000 but then Canon would probably sell half as many R3s.

[@pawelbrzozowski3899]

Im in 1/4th of the video and already thumb up. Great work.

[@mike.k]

I would like to see Sigma trio 16mm, 30mm, 56mm with RF-S mount !!!!!!! (Plus maybe adjusted a bit for canon’s 1.6x crop so it should be like sigma 15mm 1.4 😍)

[@chasingmanhattan]

It’ll be interesting to see how the rf crop glass lineup develops. I hope canon will add some L series options.

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

Hey Jared, would you pair the R7 with the Canon RF 600/800mm F11 for wildlife/birding or the Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 Contemporary?

[@jarlathmcnee3833]

Phew, I just came back from my local camera shop after ordering the R7 body, I am still learning, but I have a decent 24-70mm 2.8; and a 70-200mm 2.8 lens for shooting soccer. I get decent pictures with the canon 90d, but hope this gets me up a step or two. Thank you again for the reviews

[@RichieColemanSr]

I have the 90D and I am thinking about getting the R7. How do you like the R7?

[@jarlathmcnee3833]

@@RichieColemanSr the R7 is definitely an upgrade; the auto focus ( it takes a few to get used to) is amazing, the colours really pop, the low light shooting works amazingly. I still have my 90d as a back up/secondary camera, but my prime is always the R7

[@RichieColemanSr]

@jarlath mcnee Thanks for responding. I've made some decent money shooting photos recently, and not to mention, I didn't have to put any money down on my new vehicle, so I ordered the Canon R6 Mark II.

[@JebrilKessler]

This just makes me want the r7 even more :)

[@oje101]

Mr. Polin. First and foremost.. love you channel. Extremely entertaining & informative. I have a question for you.. Would you? If you were staring out. Use the canon r7. For paid work? Please advise. Thank you for your time.

[@BC-gy1wp]

Hey Jared I love your Videos! I wanted to ask your opinion as I have a Canon 90D and has been great, however I would love to move in to Digital. What Canon Digital would be a good replacement as I can't afford the R3, shoot a lot of airshows, sports, and astrophotography. I have mostly Canon EF lenses with a few Tamron Sigma etc. I would love to hear your Opinion on what might be best? Thanks, B

[@nclarke110]

Hi Jared, with the limited RFS lens selected, would you recommend trying a older lens on the R7 like the Sigma 17-50 F2.8 lens or should i sell it and try to get a Sigma 18-35 F1.8. I know i will be loosing focal length. But i need the low like the 1.8 lens would offer.

[@piphastings6734]

Jared I am wondering what time the Soccer game was and the baseball game? I've heard that one of the biggest knocks is the low light limitations...so my question is corresponds to the times...cause I do a lot of planespotting videos and photos.

[@Marc2k6]

Man you answered my question exactly with this video 70-200 F4 will be the lens for me.

[@Senekaudam]

Hi Jared, could you please tell me how you use that AF system + tracking? I’m just able to start the tracking from a point

[@trueblastmixingmastering7269]

I started with the Canon SL2 which was a great beginner camera then, i jumped to the R7 and DAMN..! HELLA AWESOME then i went big and bought the R5. I dont feel a need to get another with the R7 and R5 which i use both as my MAIN cameras depending on project and glass. But i MIGHT get the R5 MARK II just because i can. But the R7 is a HELL OF A PIECE OF GEAR FOR THE PRICE AND WHAT IT OFFERS. DONT SLEEP ON IT AT ALL.

[@guyprolly]

Very helpful comparison, Fro. Cheers.

[@elijahcho]

Hey Jared, great video. Always appreciate watching your content and seeing your photos. Regarding your presets, any chance you’re making a set for capture 1 users?

[@CalTek]

My Canon 80D shutter died and I was forced to upgrade and decided to spend the $500 more and go the R7 over the 90D. I shoot a lot of hockey so I am excited to see the difference this camera will make for that with my Sigma 70-200 2.8. I mean going from 45 AF points to 651 is a game changer in itself.

[@felipecourtois7883]

What lens do you pair with the r7? Im also moving on from my 80D and looking for an APSC replacement

[@CalTek]

@@felipecourtois7883 shooting the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and 70-200 2.8 No issues or regrets on the upgrade. Like day and night.

[@felipecourtois7883]

@@CalTek very cool...might I ask how the low-light performance of the r7 is? Is the AF still snappy in low light? Noise at 3200 and higher ISO? lol...sorry for pressing I just love to hear opinions of people not doing KZbin vids

[@CalTek]

@@felipecourtois7883 haven't used it much in low light so cannot say....but from what I have read it is a little better than the 80D but as it is still APS-C low light will be an issue. That being said all the other benefits of this camera over the 80D make it worth it for its price point.

[@willoughbykrenzteinburg]

@@felipecourtois7883 Just for anyone else reading this that might be interested - I wanted to point out that the R7 is quite the upgrade over the 80D. The direct predecessor to the 80D is the 90D. Then that's it for the DSLR progression. The direct path from DSLR to mirrorless from the 90D is actually the R10. That's the mirrorless series that picks up where the XXD series left off. The R7 is actually a tier up from the R10. So, you basically skipped over an iteration of the line you were in (90D) and moved up a tier from the RXX series to the RX series. So, that's probably a pretty big jump. I'm on a 7D mk II, and the R7 is the direct jump into mirrorless for me. To expand a little The 80D you were on is in the same "tier" or "line" as the original in that line : the 10D. Then came the 20D, 30D, etc....all the way to your 80D. They released a 90D and then discontinued the DSLR line and continued that line in the mirrorless realm starting with the R10. Eventually there will be an R20, R30, etc... With the two-digit model numbers, they just increase the number with each iteration. In the single-digit models (like the 1D, 5D, 7D, and now R7), they just at a Mk # with each iteration. I'm on the 7D Mk II, and the direct upgrade to that is the R7. And eventually, I assume the next iteration will be the R7 Mk II. Canon has done mostly a good job with keeping the model numbers as consistent as possible. For the most part, the D-series DSLRs have an R-series mirrorless counterpart - so the "line" continues. These are the transitions for some of what has come out in the R series so far : 5D Mk IV >>> R5 6D Mk II >>> R6 (the R6 Mk II has come out as well) 7D Mk II >>> R7 90D >> R10 (they don't use Mk #s so they just restarted with 10, and will go R20, R30, etc. as new iterations come out) There is an R3, but it doesn't have a D-series counterpart. It's a new tier they are squeezing between the 1D and 5D. Eventually, there will be an R1 to fill out the roster, but it hasn't been released yet.

[@jbmaru]

The wind in the fro (thumbnail) means blazingly fast!

[@andersonnssilva]

Jared. Could you tell me if the Canon EF 70-200mm 2.8 L (first generation) adapts well to the Canon R7? If there is any configuration... I'm having problems with this combination. I'm losing focus very easily when I shoot using the H+ AI SERVO. I saw in a publication, some lenses that don't perform well above 15 fps. If you could give me feedback, I would appreciate it.

[@teddy33131]

did you already try the same stuff with the R10 ? or do you think they'd be equal for this as they are supposed to have the same AF system ?

[@SchardtCinematic]

O love my Canon 90D. I've said before now if only they made a mirrorless version. Well I think the R7 is very close to it.

[@jamesscharnitz7640]

I have the R7 and love it, but I have to say the lack of third party lenses for the RF system is a real negative. I will see what Sony does with their next APS-C release and possibly switch. I'm hoping the fact that this camera is so good and is more of a "pro-sumer" body will make Sony step it up and go away from the A6000 line into better bodies.

[@josephchan4198]

A camera worth considering in the future.

[@alansach8437]

It would have to be in the future, because you sure can't get your hands on one now! Unless you want to spend the extra money on a kit, no shortage of those! I'm sure there is extra profit in the kit, which explains why they can get plenty of those in the stores.

[@curlsbynat9763]

Love the fro❤

[@emilydeu8490]

I'm trying to decide between R and R7. I mostly do portraits but also like to get my kiddos in action at home. What are your thoughts?

[@horigomme]

Is the autofocus performance comparable to that of a canon R3 as you mentioned at your first video? Or some one spends 1500$ to take blurry images as I understand from your video?

[@jameslong1540]

what lens line up for a crop sensor would be consider complete offering? primes - 12mm/16mm / 24mm/35mm .... and Zoom Xmm-Xmm?

[@Brianmatthewlewis]

I know you don’t like focus extenders. Curious what you think about speed-boosters for canon r7. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography.

[@uvp5000]

If someone had the budget to use the R7 as a starter body, this would be a very good choice (with f4 glass or better) to learn photography however far one wished to develop their skills. Yes, someone with the budget and desire could go on to a more capable camera body and glass, but, for what it does, the price, this is a solid choice.

[@teej626]

I would say the R10 fits your description better. The R7 is more of a "prosumer" or enthusiast camera, not a starter body. I've been shooting crop sensor cameras for over 10 years now as I primarily shoot wildlife, and the R7, by far, is the best yet. I don't care about not having a grip as I've never used one and the R7 fits my hands perfectly.

[@teej626]

@@wellwhatthen10101 I have average sized hands. I am just saying that, for me, not having a grip for this camera is perfectly fine.

[@Big-C]

Can you do a user guide video the R7?

[@brucegraner5901]

Useful real world summation.

[@AndrewCCM]

Are you shooting with Mechanical or Electronic shutter? When using electronic, do you find rolling shutter a problem with sports?

[@matesallaiphoto]

Hi all! Does anybody know how is it possible to display the focal length on the EVF? (displayed on the bottom-right corner of the EVF, just above the ISO value). I have an R6 with an RF 70-200 but

[@thomassarver7638]

Question, how did you setup the focus for tracking?

[@pa1sas3]

For sports pics -;indoor or outdoor, what picture style is recommended? Standard, Portrait or faithful/neutral?

[@jktz122]

how would you compare it to other crop sensor cameras of its peers like fuji and sony ?

[@georgemccormick1247]

Damn your popular, 6k hits and the vids only 3 hrs old. You must be doing something right or your using the same bots as twitter😂. Love your takes on the R7 hope you’ll be doing a full vid going step by step thru the setup. Keep up the great work.

[@stoshfurtek4417]

I saw you on a scooter under the “El” a couple of days ago!

[@froknowsphoto]

Yup

[@patfeher6655]

Im looking for a recommendation for a lens to shoot youth soccer. I'm very new and have a sony a6100 with kit lens and want to upgrade. I shoot mostly during the day but sometimes near dusk. Ant ideas?

[@ghoshdebapriya07]

Planning to get one R7. Need one advise please. Will my efs 18-135 nano usm work on the R7 with adaptor. Thanks in advance.

[@JuanSanchez-zz3me]

Completely unrelated, but I was able to find both a D3 and a D800 for 399 each. I just find it crazy how such cameras that were juance the top of the industry have become so affordable you can buy one with less than a single paycheck

[@simonmaduxx6777]

things get old and they are not in production anymore. its natural.

[@Stalled-wm3qd]

I have been looking at the R7 for sports (sons play Australian Rules Football) and birding as well as sunsets and all the other usual stuff. It looks like it will be a better choice than my current Panasonic G9 with a Leica 100-400mm (equivalent 200-800mm) for the sports and birding. However, choosing a telephoto zoom lens is the real problem as the Canon RF 150-500 is about AU$ 4,999. and the R7 about half of that. I have looked at videos for the Sigma Contemporary 150-600mm (250-960mm) but there are differing views as to whether focus pulsing is a problem. Some say the problem is worse at closer distances. Are there any other suggestions for suitable lenses please?

[@theteacher8528]

Maybe take at look at the Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM Lens. Reviews are favourable - see Jarod's own for example. Here's probably an accurate summary ..... I feel the RF 100-400 is a great lens at the price point.

[@andrewgeorge5039]

How was the buffering during all of your test shots?

[@joeschmoe723]

I find the background being too "in focus" very distracting in a lot of these pictures, even in long telephoto shots. The subject (players) are not well separated from the background. I do understand this is due to the crop sensor but it doesn't change the fact. Oh well, as Jared himself said - "if you take pictures of birds and sky is in focus - it is not really a problem" 😁

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

How are you switching one focussing mode to tracking?

[@kelemvor3333]

This is the same Af as on the R10, right? I'm interested in the R10 as my next camera but won't be ready for it until Christmas time. ;)

[@The-brave.]

So for a still only photographer u recommende this or A7iii? I never touch the video on the camera!

[@HCMS71]

Hi, I have the canon r8, and I'm thinking of buying a second camera, would you recommend canon r6 mark 1 or r7?

[@MrKadoux83]

great review, thank you very much! is it possible to know your opinion about the battery and the electronic shutter? In France, 99% of the reviews seem distorted because of the sponsorship of denoising software and the "pressure" of the brand. We have just learned that the R7 will officially not have Grip. I no longer understand Canon's policy with its overpriced small aperture lenses (for example: 100-500 @ F7.1Vs 100-400 II @ F5.6) and the loss of grip will make you lose the possibility of doubling the battery and the ergonomics of the case for regular users. A great pity: I will not buy this device despite its qualities. thank you very much, once again.

[@Democratiser]

Surely the EF-M mount is dead now? Canon has made an awesome APS-C camera in the R7 using the RF mount and kicked off the RF-S lens lineup. Any reason why EF-M is still needed (other than in the transition phase)?