CANON R5c vs EOS R3 | Video Comparison

CANON R5c vs EOS R3 | Video Comparison
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[@icapturemedia]

Good watch, keep them coming!

[@ALLTHINGSCINEMA24]

nice review. I have the R5c. one thing you said that i disagree is Canon NOT ADDING ibis in the r5c is because the R5c is a cinema camera not hybrid. Most cinematographers prefer a fixed sensor, whereas vloggers and videographers prefer ibis.. So it is preference rather than CRIPPLE. One last fact, cinema cameras before and even today before there was ibis, were always fixed sensor, requiring you to stabilize with steadycam or dolly slider or crane. So just wanted to share that. and then, features such as Shutter angle, false color, waveforms are traditional exposure tools in cinema cameras that are not ADDITIONALS but standards like your RED you used to have. Plus I do rely on the camera lcd so I don't have to add a additional monitor everytime i want to film.

[@Dk20Silver]

thanks for your very productive video much appreciated i hope your channel and content get far more credit than it is getting now. very underrated.

[@KHCAMS]

Thank you brother I was fun shooting with you, I really enjoyed the collaboration. And also found out how those two cameras are away apart.

[@HenryOrtlip]

Great video Joe! I own both the R5c and R3. The R3’s auto focus is exceptional. I shot two corporate videos last week on the R5c. You can only use the R5c when you have usbPD plugged in most of the time.(which I had the camera plugged into) People talk about the Cinema OS and how you need it. Honestly having false color and wave form are nice, but not necessary if you already are experienced exposing the camera, (using histogram, etc.) Also the cinema OS is really small font, it was designed with an external monitor in mind. The canon Photo OS is larger, different colors, it’s easier to navigate and is meant to be used on the little 3in monitor. If I could only keep one, R3 all the way.. and I only shoot video. Canon really needs to create a new cinema OS based on the photo OS design and layout. Now for shooting 8K anamorphic…R5C🤘🏼😬

[@RayValdezPhotography]

the cinema OS is much better and the choice of codecs is better as well. i have an r5 r3 and c70

[@creativegreats6924]

What's uspd?

[@HenryOrtlip]

@@RayValdezPhotography yes, I have been using the wide DR on the R5c recently and it was surprising great!

[@HenryOrtlip]

@@creativegreats6924 it’s a type of power bank and it’s called usb pd (basically can put out serious power to function a laptop or a camera)

[@KalleTheodor]

@@RayValdezPhotography so wich of these do you prefer for video? I am using a C200 and am thinking about upgrading to a R5C or C70. I'd love to have the full size sensoir but would miss the internal ND. 🙂

[@GoFlyYourselves]

Excellent points! Thanks!

[@jywn]

do you need a camera that could take photos as well? is that why you didn't get the C70?

[@DiegoKatzakian]

Damn, currently shooting with a Komodo for the last year as a one man band like you and am really starting to consider selling it an just moving to one of these Pro Canon cameras… I really love the image quality of the Komodo but for a one man crew it’s almost tedious to go through all the setup every time I want to shoot something

[@projecthowto]

Really liked your video ! Very informative

[@JoeElementz]

Thank you

[@projecthowto]

@@JoeElementz I did a video when I got my R5 more than an year ago trying to tell people that is really important not to just jump on the FAD but actually think what they need the camera for.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/noSVhnmCYsSEeqc

[@titusnixon]

Hey Joe from the USA just purchase the Canon EOS R5c and you are correct about the battery life, so I purchase a FXlion Nano 2 98w Amount Batterie to solve that issue. I'm only using it when shooting Video and it just an added cost to the system that people should take in consideration when purchasing the Canon R5c

[@patrick.munich]

Same here, have the Nano 2 just mounted on the cage with a very short cable. Its small and light and I don't have to think once about battery life or if I can shoot 8k60.

[@joelindooo]

I feel like ever since the update, the auto focus got worse. On my R5, sometimes it'll show its focusing on the eye but it would be focusing on something else.

[@_SYDNA_]

The R3 has a setting that allows you to change the font size of the menus. I wonder if thats hidden in the R5c somewhere as well. It's good to hear that a videographer has been able to work comfortably within that dynamic range. It's a all thing but I just love the flip out screen on the R3.

[@gabrielrhodes6067]

GREAT VIDEO!!!! Canon EOS R5C vs Canon EOS R3 for interviews???

[@MensHealthMedia]

You have to change the speed settings on the autofocus on the R5C

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

Removing IBIS from the R5C was not crippling the camera. It was done for 2 reasons: one is, that is was necessary to cool the sensor, so it won't overheat and secondly nearly all Cine cameras don't have IBIS, so that the sensor doesn't get thrown off in action scenes with hefty movements and especially in automotive and similar recording scenarios. You will have massive image wobble with for example a Canon R5 in those situations, even if you turn IBIS off. The sensor can not be locked down, so it's always floating.

[@johannesdoerr]

I also have my concerns with the IBIS jumps that I see in my footage sometimes from the R6. I think IBIS is only usable if you want to mimic static shots when you don't have a tripod with you. These use cases exists probably far more often than car shots, at least for people who this hybrid camera is aimed for. IBIS with a way to lock the sensor would have been the best solution for a hybrid camera. Having that said, I bought the R5C and don't regret it at all.

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@johannesdoerr The only one so far, that has implemented a way to fully lock the sensor down is Panasonic with the Panasonic Lumix S1H. Panasonic also has the best working IBIS on the market. They were early at it and it's much easier to handle with the smaller MFT sensors in the GH5 and onwards. Sony actually has worse IBIS issues than Canon (cracking IBIS hinges etc.), but it's worth to note, that the R5 and R6 were Canons first cameras to have IBIS. Only the R3, R5 and R6 currently have IBIS in the Canon lineup and nobody expected them to get it 100% right from day one. They still have lots to learn there. Either way, not having IBIS in a Canon body is generally a non-issue as a lot of Canons lenses have Lens-IS and the Digital IS used in the R5C and C70 are actually pretty good. Not having IBIS is only a problem for camera manufacturers that don't have stabilised lenses.

[@peterra2532]

Cinema camera are used for productions with a large crew and equipment to stabilize the shots. This kind of camera is made for those who work alone or with a very small team, who require light and fast filming. That's why an autofocus is important as well as the IBIS (it can help when you shoot handheld)… There is not just the action scenes to film. When you work alone, you can't or don't want to use a gimbal for several reasons or situations, you have to film handheld in 50mm, the IBIS can save your shot.

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@peterra2532 That doesn't matter, if you can't cool the darn thing. Action shots wasn't the only reason. Canon removed IBIS because they could not cool the sensor sufficiently with IBIS in place.

[@peterra2532]

@@EmeraldAudiovisual I know this reason…but mirrorless cam without IBIS is a bad point regardless of the technical reasons given

[@AGUIKE]

Nice one, I have 1DX, Mark 1V, Sony and 3 weeks ago, I bought the R5C which I see a little toy. The battery issue can be solved by buying a battery grip. I have 3 more days to return it to B & H . I'm considering getting the R3 , at the same time, I don't wanna have too many cameras I don't use.

[@maxmaxmaxgoon5602]

Love this test

[@seragram]

Why not gat battery grip for R5C?

[@Smoothblue90]

Good video. Thank you.

[@bmefilms6879]

thanks for the video! what is the tripod?

[@JoeElementz]

Hi hat tripod

[@bmefilms6879]

@@JoeElementz thank you!

[@Quazmo]

why not the canon c70?

[@rajsinha1553]

which camera you used too shoot this episode

[@JoeElementz]

Sony ZV E10

[@PeterGeraerdts]

Thanks for the advice...the R3 it will be

[@FATHERHOODINFOCUS]

I am looking to buy r5c but looks like it’s going to take 6 weeks. Where did your friend get his. I’m in Luton UK.

[@JoeElementz]

Check his link in the description. You can ask him as I am not sure

[@rameshwarm7625]

How did you get timecode on your R3? Please share.

[@JoeElementz]

With Tentacle Sync

[@ItsBerg]

reasons why the r5c is better for video. 1. Most likely you'll rig it, a 99w vmount battery runs a long time 2. Has 8k raw, 6k raw, and 3k raw 3. The raw is not "canon raw" like the r5 and r3, its "cinema raw".. better quality. 4. Face priority autofocus.. no hunting when a face leaves the screen. 5. The AF is smooth like a focus puller is using it, so speed isn't what they were going for there. 6. Waveforms, False Color, Zebras OH MYYYYY. You can have all 3 of them going at once, whereas the r5 and r3 you only get zebras or histogram before recording, once you record they disappear!!! Wtf is that about??? 7. Because of the sensor, you can utilize super35 lenses natively if you have other cinema glass that's super35 based. 8. Downsamples from the sensor in every mode (except 120fps I believe) 9. No overheating at all. 10. Literal cinema camera with an r5 built in! 45mp stills, 20fps a sec, all the goodies except ibis which you only really need for handheld slow shutter speeds. 11. Timecode 12. The custom button layout is insane, I never have to dig into menus to get anything I want. 13. Shutter angle! One button I switch to slow motion mode, and never have to remember to change the shutter speed. 14. Slow motion isn't just 60 or 120.. You can do 48, 60, 72, 96, 100, and 120. Wayyyy more options to set the exact slow motion you want. 15. If you shoot raw, you can translate to clog2 in Davinci if you want, so can better match other clog2 Canon cameras. The r3 is super dope don't get me wrong.. but the r5c is another beast in its own right. The dual photo/video structure is genius, and it represents a true hybrid in a world of halfway hybrids that combine functionality and make setting it up odd. When you're in video mode, that's all you get.. in stills, that's all you get. So much cleaner from a settings and operational standpoint!

[@chrismoore1182]

About to buy the 5RC and sell my new 5R. What video format do you mostly shoot in?

[@ItsBerg]

@@chrismoore1182 all of them.. the raw when I want full quality or xavc, in 10bit mostly. The 6k raw was great when using s35 glass, so it’s really ready for all things this camera. All the 4k is oversampled, no hq vs non hq.. they all are hq. I love it…

[@chrismoore1182]

@@ItsBerg that’s awesome you answered my question about an HQ setting like the R5. I think making the upgrade is worth it over the R5.

[@dubyadubyaeee]

Cinema RAW is a lossy compression, Canon RAW is lossless. You’re wrong.

[@TUTWZRD]

The term "Cinimatic" is used to described emertion in motion pictures. I cringe everytime someone uses the term out of context, KZbinrs do this a lot. Knowledge is power, but too little knowledge is dangerous. Great purchase friend.

[@HadiPhoto432]

I think DGO is an advantage for some of us

[@alexanderfournaise4792]

What camera cap is that?

[@KGFIQ]

2 years later still wondering and waiting.

[@pablomarin1746]

After the firmware the AF was much better both cameras work great in a dou combo

[@Dr.Vassilev]

Maybe Canoc C70 will be great for you - autofocus, battery life, size, form factor, ergonomics, build in cinema tools, ND, IS, dynamic range:)))

[@kon_ger]

no ibis is absolutely a great feature. IBIS with a 15mm on my R6 M2 is unusable and wobbles crazy. Therefore I would choose a fixed sensor everyday over ibis

[@dreagea]

Well Done - Peace

[@csound55]

Lol the R5 c is not crippled without IBIS! Every major brand cinema camera out there does not have IBIS - are they all crippled?

[@peterra2532]

Major cinema camera are used for productions with a large crew and equipment to stabilize the shots. This kind of camera (mirrorless cam) is made for those who work alone or with a very small team, who require light and fast filming. That's why an autofocus is important as well as the IBIS (it can help when you shoot handheld).

[@csound55]

​@@peterra2532 IBIS can be useful but also has some downsides with wide angle lenses etc. People have been producing quality content for a long time with small cameras without IBIS - or auto focus for that matter. My point is that it's a bit of a stretch to claim a camera is crippled because it doesn't have IBIS. Pros and cons with most cameras, depends how you work.

[@contentm3893]

@@peterra2532 You have digital stabilization on the R5c that works very well when needed.

[@lizlana4200]

Once the EOS R1 2024 comes out, it will be the camera that will close the gap and give the Komodo X, raptor and other cine cameras a run for their money

[@mostlymessingabout]

Regarding AF, Most AF will struggle with black faces... there is not enough contrast, especially face detect

[@JoeElementz]

That's true but the R3 works much better in those scenarios

[@kennikuhlmann-clark9860]

So many people seem to go crazy about DR... Perhaps it's just that they are in situations where they don't or can't control lighting?... or is it a fan-boy or some speciality thing?

[@lizlana4200]

when youre pushing those parameters it comes in handy DR is a real thing

[@RayValdezPhotography]

Contrasty environments. If you can control light it doesnt matter that much maybe have less options for creativity with lighting though

[@caseybachmeyer]

dr is the most important thing..in photos and also videos...thats the only reason why a real cinema camera costs about 100.000 euro...you think michael bay is a fanboy? lol

[@brightboxawesome2702]

R5c def does not have better DR than the R3

[@RayValdezPhotography]

Gerald undone says otherwise. about .5 to 1 stop better