Canon R8 vs R6 Mark II - Photo & Video Comparison and First Impressions - (Free RAW Files)

[@Libertarianach_na_h-Alba]

As a photographer, I got the Canon EOS R8 because I've owned and used my Canon EOS 5D Mark III for 8 years now and given they discontinued DSLR production and have all the EF lenses I need, this was the perfect upgrade. It was a no brainer. I made the jump because although I have a SONY FDR AX100E if I wanted to shoot 4K, it meant that if I was out doing photography, it was cumbersome switching between the two and due to that I more often than not didn't bother. Now with 4K built in I can simply switch between the two, and if I wish to shoot professional video, I would use a tripod or would invest in a gimbal. I can't think of any reason, however for requiring shooting near 1/4000th of a second, unless it was on holiday, a bright sunny day, seldom would I ever. Wildlife shooting I've done in the past has largely been using a shutter speed between 1/1000th to 1/2000th. If there's anything that really stands out, however, going from 5D Mark III to this EOS R8, it's the autofocus, it's insane, and as someone pushing into pet photography with a bit of experience what that's like with a pet running towards you, this is a big step up for me. My experience testing the low light is mind-blowing, if I tried pushing my DSLR 5D Mark III to 6,400 especially at night, oh, the grain noise is very noticeable, whereas on the EOS R8 I've tested it even above that and it handles low light very well. Amazed by the quality for the price, which is reasonable given that it has all the same features as the R6 Mark II but without certain things which isn't really a deal breaker. The battery life is pretty decent and no big deal changing over SD card if need be, which I highly doubt I would need to with a 128gb card.

[@richd3174]

Do all your EF lenses have IS? if not then lack of IBIS is a deal breaker. As an RP owner I can tell you that the R8 battery sucks big time, another deal breaker. The R8 sensor is exposed when changing lenses which makes it prone gathering dust on the sensor, the mechanical shutter on the R6 mitigates this.

[@Libertarianach_na_h-Alba]

​@@richd3174 That depends, if you're talking about for video walking about, I wouldn't do that, if I want to take professional 4K video footage, I would take short clips with the camera on a tripod, and that's why it wasn't a problem for me. My goal as a photographer is to produce the best work I can, if I wanted moving footage I would use a gimbal. However, the main reason I got this is for photography and given that the autofocus is brilliant, it's a great camera to compliment my 5D Mark III. From a photography perspective, it depends how much you're using the camera in one day. Having studied photography and graduated through college, I typically know what I would shoot before hand, so I wouldn't overuse the camera. If doing something wildlife or pet photography, again, I wouldn't keep the camera on at all times. To put it into perspective, I didn't charge the battery for the next day, went out and did a pet shoot and the battery lasted me without having to reach for my second battery, plus I have another 2 batteries, so 4 in total. If it were that much of a crisis, I have my 5D Mark III and the spare batteries, so it's not a problem for me. Whilst I understand your point about a minor issue regarding dust, places like Calumet did sensor cleaning free of charge on specific days and one will be fine so long as they're quick at changing a lens over, and ensuring the camera is switched off. The worst thing a person could do is to change the lens when the camera body is switched on, as that is what will really attract dust. This was the same story for my 5D Mark III and that is a professional body camera. Given that I'm knowledgeable and experienced enough, the only people I know who would use up a battery like that are video content creators. If you're a photographer and chewing the battery, you're either doing a long shoot regarding sports photography, or something of similar nature. Add to that, batteries do have a lifespan as well, which is why spares are important for me. And honestly, the R6 Mark II was considerably more expensive and the things you've stated here really are not that big of a deal. I can say that and I am a photographer, not a hobbyist, which is why when I saw this camera at £1500 I was shocked, taken aback, somewhat laughing, and in disbelief by some of the other reviews I saw on it because the following is not an issue: • battery can easily be switched over, and really doesn't take that much effort to do, even with my camera on the tripod I can do it. • switching over SD card is the same and even with the 5D Mark III, I honestly cannot think of a time I've gone through a full SD card even after doing shoots for a day, and for me, I empty the card onto my drive after each day, so the dual card slot is not the end of the world, and bearing in mind, that's a pretty good price for what it's worth and capabilities. Even if someone was to say it is 24 megapixels, my 5D Mark III is a 20 megapixel camera and I've had A1 size prints done, especially when I did my graded unit at college before I graduated and honestly, blown up at A1, you wouldn't notice a difference unless you looked very close and compared 2 to get overly fussed about it, and that's A1. Even then, I now have Topaz Labs Gigapixel. So all in all, I really cannot see much of a fault for this camera, it's more than enough for a professional. It'll see me through my pet and landscape photography easily. The only downside for videographers is obviously going to be the overheating and time limit it'll switch off if they're doing an interview type thing, but I didn't get this for 4K video for that, I got it for the style of video you see a serious of stills from clip, to clip, to clip. So it all depends on who is after it.

[@Libertarianach_na_h-Alba]

@@richd3174, oh and I forgot to add, sure, but doing photography, I saw someone saying that without image stabilisation the lowest they could go was like 200/s, my lenses are large image stabilisation, but for arguments sake, if I was out shooting people with random street photography on holiday at night, the higher ISO is insanely good on this camera compared with my 5D Mark III. And how often would I seriously drop my shutter speed below 125th/s, perhaps indoors photographing people? But that doesn't fuss me, I use my bounce flash, or like I mentioned I'd use higher ISO. The only time I'm not using flash is some circumstances in pet photography or landscape, that's it. If using flash photography, you've nothing to worry about in that respect. Seriously, it really is such minor things that when I saw the price of this camera, and given that I wanted a second camera for my professional work, I was gob smacked, it's actually insane they're selling this at this price for a new camera and photography is what it's primarily for.

[@richd3174]

@@Libertarianach_na_h-Alba using a non IS telephoto lens you are going to get far more keepers with IBIS than without

[@mwariluke1340]

​@@Libertarianach_na_h-Albawell said... I do photography only and no video...I am fully convinced that this camera meets my needs.. I'm placing an order right away... Thankyou for putting an end to my dilemma between the r8 and r6 mark ii...I better save myself some money for the RF glass

[@ericaceous1652]

Another comment to say really appreciate you providing raw files and sample video - very helpful for those considering a purchase. Cheers

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much

[@MichaelDrowley]

At 3:31 R6 looks better to my eye. I realised after I released my video on why I really like the R8, that it’s biggest shortcoming for video is the low bitrate of the IPB compression compared to the R6 MKII. Will most people notice it with KZbin compression? Probably not, but it stands out in your shots shooting into the sun. The R6 looks much better in both the highlights and the shadows and the R5 (which I own) would be another step up again. Though, I still think the R8 would be great for very well lit scenarios as a longer form interview B cam. Edit: I am actually wrong about the difference in the codecs. The compression bitrates in Canon Log 3 video are the exact same for the R8 and The R6 MK II so James you are absolutely right, there should be no difference in the video quality. Not sure why the R8 highlights look slightly more blown out at 3:31- perhaps exposure shifted slightly and clipped the highlights in the R8 clip compared to the R6 MK II.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching Michael! It was a pretty cloudy day so I think the sun was just slightly less diffused and more direct on the R8 clip as the sun was in and out of the clouds all day. Good to hear there's no difference in bit rates. Gonna go over and check out your video now!

[@novainvicta]

Great comparison James as always precise and too the point.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Jeff!

[@hl666]

Ordered R8 with kit for travel light. Looking forward to using it.

[@JamesReader]

Congratulations! You’ll love it.

[@shibuichi]

James, have now watched several of your videos, each better than the next. Super helpful, thank you.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you. That means a lot 🙏

[@juanbadenhorst3332]

I have a R8 for my main at the moment.. Been working great and super good quality videos

[@JamesReader]

It’s such a great camera. One of my favourites from Canon

[@mcmillanvideos]

Nice video, but I'd add: Consider the lenses you'll be using most and type of photography you'll be doing before making this choice. I do 2 things primarily: portraits (individual and group) and wildlife (mostly birds). I bought an R8 and used it for the past 6-8 months fairly casually as an enthusiast (and previously pro-photographer). I found it exceptional for wildlife and portraits, mainly due to the fast focus and easy menu system. The focus options are a bit overly complicated to me. But I've gotten the hang of it. (I think) I used a 24-105/f4 for portraits and general street and a 600/f11 for wildlife. I added a 100-400 too. All handle well on the R8. I don't use video and ibis wasn't important to me. However, I bought a 28-70/f2 and that lens really made the R8 body small-feeling. I already have large-ish hands and that made it to where I was primarily holding the lens to shoot. My fingers really dug into the R8 to stabilize it. I ran out of room to hold it. It's interesting that the way the way weight is distributed in my hand makes the R6/lens combo feel lighter than the R8! It's definitely more controlled and I feel less like I'm going to drop it. I was also tired of constantly running out of battery w/ the R8. I'm not a great planner and not a full-time photographer.. so always remember to charge was a problem. I had 3 batteries and it was 'just enough'. I always seemed to have 2 dead ones. It seemed to drop quickly after being full. I thought about a grip but Canon doesn't make a battery-extender for the R8. I'd have to use Vello and deal with its idiosyncrasies. Your experience of shooting for 2 hours and only losing 1 bar is interesting. If I did that, turned off the camera, then turned it back on later in the day, I'd be at 1 bar somehow. I could shoot maybe 30 more minutes to an hour before I'd have to replace it with a charged one. I also plan to buy the 200-800 for wildlife and again, the R8 is just too small for it. The 600/f11 was fine, though. I think the 800/f11 would be fine too, but not as comfortable/secure as the R6. Also to note is the way the R6 sounds and feels when taking a photo. It is a re-assuring, perfectly timed sounding shutter release. It clicks exactly when I think it would. The 'break-over' point is better on the R6. The R8 feels a little mushier or more nebulous to me. The sound isn't as crisp. The moment I shoot and say "I got it" matches the image for me on the R6. I know the shutter type has to do with that, and maybe everyone else knows this is the case, but it's new to me, and the experience of shooting with the R6 is simply more accurate and precise than the R8... and I don't see many talk about it. So, those are the big differences I notice as someone re-entering the pro photography scene after a very long hiatus. Hope it helps someone. Thanks for your review...

[@musiqfiend7]

I appreciate this review also, especially the details of trying to take photos with some of the heavier lenses on the R8, thank you!!

[@theycallmeglen]

For battery life, have you tried airplane mode, no bluetooth or wifi? Might help.

[@mcmillanvideos]

@@theycallmeglen It's something to try, but I needed the wifi connectivity to upload. The R8 was sold; replaced by R10. The R10 cannot connect via wifi so I just turn it off all the time on that camera.

[@RodberryJacques]

Great video. Very informative.

[@gianni2272]

I bought the r8 and I am so happy with it. It is my second camera. It does have flaws, but buying a camera is all about making compromises I learned, and I have to say there is nothing I am missing so far.

[@JohnMolawa]

What are the comprises

[@diamondstateautoandchats499]

I've used the R8 during a 2 hour photo( outfit changes and location change included) while it's 110 degrees outside...The one battery lasted the entire shoot and I only got the heat warning, never overheated.

[@JamesReader]

Yep I’ve never had mine overheat either !

[@ntsan]

My main cam is R5 and backup was R7, just got the R8 recently and R7 went to new home. Since most of my lens is FF except the 18-150mm kit so R8 will fit better focal length wise. Warping is a real problem for video on UW and on car mount, R8 without IBIS solve that problem.

[@mjphotos]

I'm the same. Main body is the r5 and looking at the R8 as my second body or maybe even main with the advanced auto focus and better lower light capabilities.

[@wastedtalentusa]

Your videos are always awesome. You go straight to the important points.

[@JamesReader]

I really appreciate that, thank you 🙏

[@danwookiee]

Thanks to this video I upgrade from the T7 to the R8, and after a month I can say I love my new camera. Thanks James

[@JamesReader]

That’s awesome! Thanks so much for watching.

[@77dris]

You have the best camera reviews on KZbin imho (and I've seen most of them). Instead of just shooting charts, you use your cameras in the real world and that's what counts (especially when it comes to real world dynamic range vs charts or "tests"). Also, I like that you actually compared the sensor output as well as most just say "they have the same sensor so they have the same image quality". I remember hearing that when the EOS-R was released as most said it had the same sensor as the 5D Mark IV, but as somebody who owned both, the image quality was very different (the EOS-R had less dynamic range, more noise and also banding that wasn't on the 5D Mark IV). The IBIS wobble is a bit concerning for video at wide angles. I just got the Sigma 14-24 2.8 for my R6 Mark II and wonder if I'd just be better off turning off IBIS completely and doing stabilization in post? Also, your model is absolutely fantastic.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much as always DRIS, your comments are always super encouraging. I had the same thoughts regarding sensor, I had heard similar things regarding the EOS R so it's good to see that there really is no image quality penalty here. In regards to the IBIS wobble, if you're shooting wider than 20mm and the shot has lots of movement I would consider turning off all stabilisation. In Davinci Resolve I only add the lightest of stabilisation in post and I think the results are good. Gimbal is always best but of course not always possible. Thank you for the kind words about Rachel too!

[@77dris]

@@JamesReader Thanks for the info!

[@shaquillenoeltv]

Already have an R6 Mark II so the R8 would be replacing my EOS RP as a B Cam. Epic video James!

[@JamesReader]

You'll love the R8, it's the perfect B cam to the R6 II. Thank you so much for watching.

[@drdimento]

Thank you so much for this comparison. That battery, ergonomics of the rear dial, and overheating eliminate the R8 which I was going to get because of the two cameras sharing the same sensor and same processor. Thus, now it's between the R6m2 and R5 / R5c

[@sterling68]

The R7 looks like a much better camera features wise with dual cards, IBIS, bigger battery, and faster mechanical shutter. Would be interesting seeing a video comparing it to the R8 as they are similar price and for someone like me upgrading from the Canon M50 would be super helpful to see if changing to FF really is worth it over the other features I mentioned.

[@sterling68]

@Lathrop Media thanks so much for a detailed reply. Having being used to crop on my M50 for so long I'm leaning more towards sticking with it and just getting a camera that's hugely improved in every area. I'm purely photography not really much video.

[@sterling68]

@Lathrop Media hmm you make a fair point there. Having far superior low light capabilities would be helpful. I mainly do dog photography so the faster shutter is great for actions shots. I might have to see if I can get my hands on one to test out in a shop.

[@babyforestwhitaker7114]

Depends on what you’re using it for. If you need reach and are mostly using it in well lit areas I would agree for the most part. R8 40 fps electronic is a game changer when shooting sports however. For birdwatching tho maybe a R7.

[@sterling68]

@BabyForestWhitaker having the extra reach definitely does help for what I do which why I've always enjoyed using my M50. I think both cameras will do what I need perfectly which is why its such a hard decision.

[@sterling68]

@Lathrop Media yeah I think with dogs they aren't going to be anywhere near the speed of a swinging bat etc so electronic shutter may be the way to go for me then.

[@ztornow]

As a beginning videographer who started on the RP, this camera looks amazing. Depends on your perspective and needs 👍

[@ditermejia6027]

Been shooting professionally with the RP for the last couple of years and it’s a little beast! What did you end up going with?

[@SoonerCreative]

Just wanted to say thank you. I've been leaning towards getting the R8 for awhile, and seeing just the comparison and some of your details I think it's just about sealed the deal for me. Thanks for making this!

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching! That’s awesome to hear. I think you’re going to love the R8

[@Sinevibes]

Thanks!

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much!

[@benjidoerr]

Well done! I've always found the IBIS wobble to be very unnoticeable to my eyes but that might just be me

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Benji!

[@truthseeker6804]

Watching on phone it wasn't an issue but when I watch on my big display I notice it. Maybe because I look out for it, but regular audience would probably not notice it I've seen worse vlogs.

[@tokyorose1123]

Great video/comparison. My main body is an R5. I started with an Eos-R, which is still a great portrait/landscape lens but I shoot primarily wildlife. I was really excited about the R8 as a more capable upgrade to the R, but the battery was a deal breaker for me. It’s really unfortunate, seeing as it’s an incredible camera at a great price point. But the thought of needing additional batteries and a different charger really turned me off of this body personally. Guess I’ll just have to hold out and pick up an R6 ii instead.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Brandon, as great as the R8 is, I certainly think for wild life you won't regret holding out for the R6 II.

[@babyforestwhitaker7114]

You can get a RP battery grip, fits perfectly with the R8 as they have the same body. Happy shooting!

[@MckWells]

If I were to shoot more wildlife, I would want an R7 as a secondary shooter, mainly because of the additional reach.

[@hugomouteira7015]

Buy a custom made third party grip for rp. It works as well and you can even shoot vertically like an official one

[@cuspofgreen]

I really appreciate that you made a great comparison video of these 2 cameras. I watched this video right after watching another video comparing the two where I learned how similar they are, but I was leaning toward the Mark II because in that video the photographer made it seem much better due to the image stabilization when shooting video. Your comparison of that was much more detailed and actually got me thinking I might prefer the R8, which is great news because the price point is more right for me! As the other guy said, "glass, glass, glass," so if I go with the R8 I'll be able to use the difference to buy a great lens! Thank you 🙏🌍

[@CristinaFilms]

Thank you for making this video! So detailed info and clear to understand, and the comparisons!😊

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much for watching Cristina!

[@0neMoment]

I’m really debating getting the R8 I’m coming from shooting in 5D mark iii I’m just using it for photos mainly

[@mariocristobalcolladoavile448]

I'd like to see a comparison between the R7 & the R8. On the other hand, I'd like to you testing the R8 with a Speedlite flash and using high sync flash

[@베이스치는마이콜]

I really enjoy watching your videos bro keep it up!

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much!

[@pianosfilipem]

question. What does the R6 MARK have that is a deal breaker to buy it twice the price over R8?

[@JamesReader]

I think probably only the dual card slots. If you are a working pro this can be quite an important feature.

[@janscott602]

You can run the R8 for hours using an external battery and the USB port.

[@yardspeed13]

Ah, just the video I was looking for regarding the IBIS. I was on the fence about the R8 because of that single 'issue'! Great demonstration, cheers chap

[@carloscanizares101]

IBIS is meant for slow shutter photography, not videography. Cinema cameras don’t have this because it can cause more problems than it’s worth, like he demonstrated. A better demo of this is shooting slow shutter speeds handheld. Using video to demonstrate it isn't accurate.

[@yardspeed13]

@@carloscanizares101 thanks for your insight

[@kanehi3275]

The R8 wasn't meant for "professionals" and you keep mentioning so. I have the RP and just gotten the R8. The R8 is more geared to amateurs or advanced amateurs. For many a single SD card slot is fine. Thanks for the comparison especially the sensors.

[@markjarvis8759]

Brilliant video. I am wanting to upgrade from my Canon 90d to mirrorless. I never do video, only photos. I struggle holding my 90d steady on occasions so had looked at R6 mk I for the IBIS or is the R8 lighter so easier to hold still? And the saving of £1000 could go to another RF lens. Decisions?

[@SachinKumar-ju5qd]

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[@catalin-ap]

The R8 does have a mechanical shutter. But: 1. it's only the final curtain (so only electronic first-curtain shutter mode is available on the R8, like on the R50) 2. the mech shutter cannot be used to protect the sensor, when turned off, like the R6, R6 II, R5, R3 can.

[@richd3174]

nothing more annoying than removing spots on your photos because there is dust on the sensor

[@zelfjizef454]

It appears the shutter is a very fragile and expensive piece of hardware. I've read it's better to just let the shutter open and clean the sensor if need be than risking damaging the shutter by letting it exposed when the lens is off.

[@jonaszczyszczon]

GREAT WORK JAMES! I made my decision thanks to you mate

[@JamesReader]

Thanks Jonasz!

[@Philipsfuture]

Eyeing the R8. thanks for this video

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching!

[@Agathorn]

I currently own an old Canon M6 mk1 and I really do love the small form factor. It´s a shame that canon wont support the EF-M lenses anymore. Now when I want to get a fast prime lens it feels like I´m wasting my money on getting the EF-M 32mm F1.4. I´m considering the R8 because it´s small(ish). But then I have to get some new lenses as well. I have a couple of crop sensor lenses. Don´t really know what to do.

[@Tekmogo]

Great review! Just picked up the R6ii. Can't wait for it to arrive. Both the R8 and R6ii are on sale now for anyone looking.

[@gamanjohn]

Nice review,R8 is great. But bought R6m1 for dual SD card, bigger battery and Full Mechanical shutter. R8 body is 1550usd in my country while Brand new R6 with free adapter only 1750usd...R6 and wont regret.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Norman, you made a good choice, the R6 is great.

[@mjphotos]

R8 new in the UK is £939. R62 £1499. Atough choice

[@enricportraits]

Love my R8! Thanks for the review :)

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching!

[@marcioalves3428]

Compare with the R7, and how much the sensor makes difference between the cameras

[@MichaelJamesNoggin]

Great review and comparison! Thank you!

[@rekster9]

Thank you for the great comparison! I'm looking to do a lot of 180fps shots for slo-mo shots of my dog playing. Will the R8 overheat at 180fps, 1080p? I'd prefer the more portable size for hiking, but if I'm doing a lot of video as well I'm wondering if the R6MII would be a better choice.

[@mex5341]

you should test it in bad light conditions . Any camera now could be good in light conditions like in your video

[@OMGitsaFunkyGood]

The R8 has a mechanical shutter, exactly the same as the RP, Canon didn't even rename it in their spare parts catalog

[@vibrasieve]

i visit this video again, this is really a good video for me before i buy the camera

[@Benjamin-cb1zt]

James you used some effect on the video of the girl?. The image is insanely good

[@photorider6016]

Great comparison ❤

[@JamesReader]

Thank you !

[@mariusgerome_log]

Weird question (what I initially searched for) when shooting a short 5sec raw video, and afterwards taking a raw picture … comparing both; is there a difference? I'm asking, because I'd love to make little short videos, where I then can export stills from and have the same amount of creative freedom compared to photo raw files

[@evgenyshulin]

Great review! Thanks!

[@JamesReader]

Thank you so much!

[@servo.images]

The R8 has been on my radar for some time now since its release. I shoot primarily with the original R and R6 and have had no gripes regarding these two, except the overheating in the R6 for long periods of video coverage… I noticed that you mentioned the R8 does have an indicator regarding this issue, which is helpful, but still suffers from the overheating nonetheless. If I were to shoot a wedding with it, for video, would it be sufficient enough without overheating? I have used the original R numerous times for hybrid coverage at weddings and it remains FLAWLESS despite its age and lack of certain features. In fact, I shot a 10 hour wedding video using only the R and I actually ran out of battery life and memory storage before anything else. There was no glitches, or issues, indefinitely! So, really, I might not ever sell it, but as for the original R6, I have considered selling it and replacing it with the R8, or its successor, the R6 MkII, but the price tag is a bit steep, however. The thing that actually makes me gravitate towards the R8 is actually the simplicity, going back to the nostalgia of the RP, which I have owned at a point in time, but have sold due to its lack of features that I required-C-Log, video frame rates, and DPAF in 4k to name a few. The R has those features and more!! So, I bought that and sold the RP. However, I miss the minimal design of it and size. Furthermore, the some of the most intriguing things about the R8 is the fact that it shoots 4k 60fps (NTSC) downsampled from 6k without crop, and can shoot up to 40fps in photo using the fully Electronic mode, with a shutter speed of up to 1/16000!! 😮 It truly does make for an epic experience overall!! Also, the EIS (Electronic Image Stabilization) is flawless compared to the IBIS in Canon’s other models-due to the artifact wobble-and that just goes to show that the EIS that once was, has either been refined or has been slept on by many due to the demand of IBIS… just goes to show, what once was old is new again 😏 I think my only gripes I have of the R8 is the battery life being as it is the LP-E17 with a 1040mAh power output. But to get around this issue, just carry more batteries 😅 And being as the batteries are about a third of the price of the larger LP-E6NH batteries, it’s worth the investment. One thing I am still uncertain of though, is its weather sealing… no one really talks about it. Am I able to shoot in the rain like I can either one of my other cameras, or is it null and void? 🤔

[@JamesReader]

I've had really good experiences with the R8 shooting long days of video with no overheating. That is in the British climate though so it's not stress tested too often. It certainly seems better than the R6 where overheating always seemed unavoidable. In terms of weather sealing, again, can only talk from personal experience but I have been brave enough (or unwise enough) to use it in the rain even with the none weather sealed primes and not had any issues. Certainly would avoid really heavy rain but it seems to keep out light rain.

[@FILMPHIC]

which picture profile you used to shot photos?

[@robertbohnaker9898]

Hi James. Will the lack of IBIS on the R8 significantly affect camera shake and picture clarity with the RF L lenses for portraiture ? Do you think a 3rd party battery grip or RP grip extender Will neutralize this situation ?Thanks. Beautiful Images; thoughtful reviews as always .😊

[@JamesReader]

Thank you! No I don’t think you’ll have any issues with camera shake, shutter shock seems quite well controlled on the R8. If you are concerned then I would suggest EFC shutter for any shutter speed under 1/1000 just to be sure, and fully mechanical above that.

[@johnclay7644]

useful comparison

[@lozacreative6610]

Great review! Plus providing files?!?! Over the top. Thank you.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you!

[@jcap199]

I am ready to upgrade my old DSLR camera (Nikon 3200) to a canon mirrorless. I had planned to get a R8. However, i want to be able to take action pictures on my daughter playing soccer. should i go with the R6mkII instead for the IBIS and mech shutter for really sunny cloudless days?

[@JamesReader]

I think the R8 would be absolutely fine for that, I think the IBIS will only really help for slower shutter speeds.

[@ramksb]

You can buy Sony Alpha ILCE-7M3 instead of R8. This has inbuilt image stabilization

[@Dimonina]

I'm wondering how not optically stabilized 50mm will work for photos with lower shutter speed without the built-in ibis on r8.

[@JamesReader]

I've just finished a photoshoot with the R8 + the 50mm 1.8 and found it to be a great combo, had no issues with slower shutter speeds.

[@Dimonina]

@@JamesReader thank you. I just ordered R8 for non commercial family usage. +1000usd for the ibis was too much for me, but the only issue was 50mm without is. Thank you for your reviews, they helped me a lot.

[@peterra2532]

I have this combo and it’s a great combo. I tested shutter speed at 60-100 and still sharp…did not tested at lower speed. Ut as it opens at 1.8, you can easily set the shutter speed to 150-250 in most situations, even rather dark, without exceeding 6400iso at 150-250

[@joseromandycalderongonzale1195]

I own an RP, and I am considering buying a second camera, keeping the RP as backup camera. R8 and RP shares same battery and ergonomic plus many other features. I am happy with the RP but I want to make sure R8 should be my go to as I'll save money because it is cheaper, and I can use my RP batteries. Any opinion on this?

[@JamesReader]

I think the R8 would be a smart move! It's an excellent camera and has you covered for a lot of the video features the RP lacks

[@joseromandycalderongonzale1195]

@James Reader thank you for your reply. I am more on the field of photography. And I haven't been in a situation where I needed IBIS, and that's another reason to consider the R8

[@ayayoutuber]

is the R8 actually a RP shell with swap internal like processor and sensor? it just looked too much like RP I had. Even the accessory bottom extension is the same. same memory and battery location and size. same dial location.

[@JamesReader]

Yeah I think it’s possible they borrowed a lot from the RPs physical design then threw in an R6 II sensor

[@LexTimm]

You have good content, I often watch your videos. I'm considering the r8 only for video, I thought there was a difference in dynamic range when shooting video on your samples. Is the video quality between r8 and r6 m2 the same. I know they have the same sensor, but I think the image is better on the r6 m2.

[@JamesReader]

The video quality will be exactly the same between the R8 and R6 II. Both are great

[@LexTimm]

@@JamesReader дякую тобі за відповідь

[@ilanhoward]

The R8 is affordable, but what do you think about native RF lenses to get for it? Wouldn’t it make a Sony A7IV package more attractive overall?

[@JamesReader]

I've found the 1.8 primes are great on the R8, the 24mm, 35mm and 50mm 1.8. I still adapt EF lenses too, the Sigma 24-70 is reasonably priced and stabilised so a good option for the R8. The Sony certainly has more budget primes and zooms. The mirrorless Sigma lenses are great on E mount.

[@tombube49]

Sonys 50 1.8 is bigger. For me the 50 1.8 was the biggest reason for Canon R System. The lens is perfekt.

[@ilanhoward]

@@tombube49 have you seen the new Sony 50 1.4?

[@cosmichrist]

Wow, what a great video , I am trying to make this exact decision.

[@vyvi8646]

My canon 1ds markiii still in my opinion relevant. Stick a canon red ring lens to it and you have a legend set up.

[@Flaneur98]

if i wanna use R8 for real state only photo mode how effective is battery life? just wondered how many RAW shots with one full battery on both

[@DigitalSamTV]

Great overview and comparison. So u think the r8 with digital stabilization turned on is good enough if shooting with a non stabilized lense?

[@thisisfela]

To be honest I dont understand how people can take the R6 II seriously with that amount of wobble. I just ordered the R8 since its one of the only usable fullframe RF cameras for professional filmmaking since it doesnt have that ridiculous sensorstabilization.

[@vonrbdeleon]

What would you choose R or R8 as first FF gear coming from APS-C? I want to level up my gear hoping to do some freelance photographer.

[@JamesReader]

If you don't do video definitely go with the R! If you do any video at all I would suggest the R8. Both great cameras.

[@dcollash]

Great review. Thanks. If you had to pick one, R7 or R8 for video, which would you get?

[@JamesReader]

I would personally go for the R8 as long as you can work around the overheating in 4k 60.

[@dcollash]

@@JamesReader Thanks

[@shawnlabranche6852]

Great video as always James, I really appreciate your unbiased style reviews unlike some other KZbinrs. You tell it how it is, I appreciate you, some other KZbinrs are also very honest I can't knock on all of them lol. Would you recommend the R8 over the R as a C cam? I already have the R6, R6 2 but wondering if I should upgrade my R to R8 to match my wedding pics and vids better. I have no problem with the R btw. Thank you in advance

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Shawn! That's a tough one. Personally I think the R8 would make an amazing C cam, the only issue is you would have to invest in a few new batteries. If you're liking the R though I would maybe stick with that, it's a really good camera. The R8 has the better video though.

[@pjurgensen2827]

Does the lens IS (of the RF 35) work together with the digital IS of the R8? I can remember that this lead to horrible stutter on my R10.

[@JamesReader]

Yeah they work pretty well together!

[@ronrotunno2901]

Excellent comparison thank you! I shoot stills only, have you found overheating to be an issue for this type of use?

[@JamesReader]

Thank you! Never had any overheating in photo mode

[@ronrotunno2901]

@@JamesReader Thanks James. I should have been more specific, I was referring to the R8 but I assume your response applies to both R6/R8. Thanks again!

[@1000riversproductionsnetwork]

Are you doing editing / correction with the photos or is it fresh from camera?

[@spainweddingphotography]

Great video. Do you know if the R6II still suffers for indoor banding with electronic shutter?

[@pureheartvisuals]

James… if you needed a gimbal camera. Would it be any advantage to move from an EOS R to an EOS R8 ? Thanks for any insight.

[@JamesReader]

I think the R8 is a pretty great upgrade from the R for video in general. Better image quality, dynamic range and no crops. However just in terms of performance on a gimbal, other than the slight reduction in weight for the R8, I don’t see any real advantages. Maybe a little more reliable AF?

[@majorpayne0195]

Nice video. At first I'm looking to purchase a R8 but that lack of mechanical shutter makes me shift to R7 instead. R6 Mark II is beyond my budget as a hobbyist.

[@JamesReader]

Have you considered the original R6? They have dropped in price quite a bit now. Regardless the R7 is an amazing camera.

[@o.aldenproductions.9858]

I have R7 and I'm missing the aesthetic of a full frame so I'm getting R8 as well yay 🎉 and if the battery is good for 1000 photos I'm happy.😊 In all my photoshooting life I have only had one incident of card mishap so I'm not afraid of on slot 😊

[@jaymills1720]

@@o.aldenproductions.9858what’s the difference in image quality of r7/8

[@mjphotos]

Why do you need a mechanical sheet?

[@86mystek]

Is it worth to change from Canon EOS R body to Canon R8? I'm using R mostly for landscapes + family pictures and I really like this camera, but is it worth to upgrade to R8? I know R8 pros and cons vs EOS R.

[@JamesReader]

Stick to the R in my opinion! A great camera for photo. Only reason to upgrade to the R8 is for more video specs

[@iancunicolae2626]

@@JamesReader Why do people say stick with the R? wouldn't the R8 perform better for low light photo shoots? I mean the extr 4mp is not enough to make a big difference is it? what is it about the R that is better then the R8?

[@FleaMarketVintage]

Great video.

[@JamesReader]

Thank you!

[@adamrafiqi1]

good comparison!

[@babajaiy8246]

Anyone shot landscape at night with stars(no moonlight) and how do they find their ability to frame/compose.(with either of these two cameras)? I recently got the R50, which for my use I really liked - except for the aforementioned type of shots at night. I shoot in manual pre selecting my aperature, shutter and ISO . The R50 for focusing is no problem either as I use the viewfinder scale and set to infinity which is what I want for these types of shots. However, the big downside is that I can't frame/compose my shots - there's not enough ambient light to 'activate' the viewfinder/view panel. It's too noisey can't make out anything. To get a shot I would have to do a series of shots and guess how much to move the camera on the tripod each time to get the framed shot I wanted. I decided to pass on the R50 to someone else I know who can use it for their purposes while I research another camera. I would like to stay with Canon, but if I can't even get a faint image outline in the viewfinder I think I may have to move on to another 'brand'. I heard and have seen videos on Sonys Bright Monitoring feature which lets you frame your shot first time on dark night time scenes. With the older DSLR and SLR film cameras, there was always enough ambient light that I could always compose my image on the first shot with the optical viewfinder.

[@SawarnaTrisno]

Thanks for the review

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching!

[@ZackCrain]

Wish i could upgrade my EOS R to the R6 II

[@jerryyahoo1397]

HI i am curious if R6m2 turn on IBIS+lens IS+Digital IS ,it could solve the corner wobble? thanks

[@JamesReader]

The slight crop in from Digital Is does help a bit. I just wish Canon would let us turn off the IBIS and use lens IS only.

[@yvind1634]

Hello no need videos, just good body to shoot my family and travels just need good colour accuracy like old body (6d) R8 seam to be enough for a all day camera?

[@JamesReader]

Absolutely! The R8 would be great for that. You could even consider the original EOS R if shooting photo only.

[@TimandLauren]

Heya James! 1. Do you think using a 24-70 2.8 IS lens with ibis off will solve the wobble issue? 2. Can you turn off the IBIS in the canon r6ii?

[@JamesReader]

It would solve the issue, however unfortunately the R6II only lets you turn ALL the stabilisation off (lens IS included). Unfortunately you can’t turn the IBIS off and just use the lens IS

[@TimandLauren]

@@JamesReader that...sucks, wth lol damn..do you know if the CANON r5 has this problem too?

[@juggernot1556]

What would you recommend the r8 or r6?

[@stanleygabrel1045]

Nice video, thanks for posting. I am point and shoot guy with Sony RX100 v and thinking about upgrading to Canon R8 with RF 24mm f1.8 lens. I have done a lot of research and it seems like latest Canon pictures look digital and over sharpened compared to Nikon and Fuji, for example. I am hoping these things can be adjusted by changing in camera parameters. Am I correct?

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Stanley! Do you mean straight out of camera jpegs? If so I have always found Canon's jpegs quite good. I've compared Canon to Fuji, Lumix, Sony and Leica and have never found them to be particularly more digital or sharp looking.

[@stanleygabrel1045]

@@JamesReader Thanks James, yes out of camera jpegs.

[@ramouz]

I notice the same about Canon JPEGs but I also notice slight blurriness. And low quality noise reduction that removes so much detail. Fuji is the worst though. Messy and muddy. Not sharp at all. Sony and Panasonic are the best. Then Nikon. Color would be another category to rate though.

[@extrophotography]

hi, can you share any C-Log footage link so that i can color grade and check the Canon R8's Video quality by myself, i was planning to buy this camera

[@JamesReader]

There’s some downloadable R8 footage in the link in description. Also in my newer R8 video there’s some clips you can download too.

[@giannisercu2947]

Hi James, just found your channel... In your comparison, you write 'the R8 has some blackouts when shooting 6fps' Does this mean the R8 freezes sometimes or are some photos just black? Thx for your answer....

[@JamesReader]

It just means the screen goes black temporarily in between shots. In the buffer test you will see that the R8 flashes black between shots where as the R6 II doesn’t.

[@MAGIN989]

Thanks for the great review, it helped with some doubts I had on the R8. BTW, is the video shared in the link in CLOG3?

[@JamesReader]

Thank you for watching, really glad it helped. The downloadable footage is all CLOG 3

[@MAGIN989]

@@JamesReader Thanks for the prompt reply :) Is the gamut rec709 or cinema gamut? Color matrix neutral? Picture style none? (not sure all applicable for the R8)

[@argauw]

How about R8‘s weather sealing?

[@jamescarlos8642]

Hi guys Which country can I get canon r6 mark ii cheaper That I’m using Canada currency now

[@spikeweb5193]

R8 digitial IS and lens is doeasnt work together?

[@vasusurattiantra6946]

Awesome review. What camera wrist strap you using for R8? Thanks

[@JamesReader]

Thank you! It’s the Wandrd wrist strap. Definitely my favourite!

[@Cotictimmy]

I was starting to think the R8 might be for me - until you dropped the bombshell about no control dial and joystick on the back. 😢(probably stick with the 5D3 - that works brilliantly)

[@JamesReader]

That’s my biggest gripe too!

[@GavinKyleGreen_]

How do the r6ii images compare to the canon r3?

[@ZachShurtz]

so coincidental I just decided that the R6 mii was the camera for me, I am a wedding videographer/youtuber so I was wondering if the warping happens with tighter lenses with IS? and can it be turned off if you prefer to stabilize it later in post? Amazing video! your quality is suburb!

[@JamesReader]

Thank you Zach! I would say the warping disappears as you approach 35mm and beyond. I've never noticed it with the RF 35mm 1.8 for example. If you're shooting wider than 24mm it might be best to turn off all stabilisation and do it in post if you can't use a gimbal. I've found that to generally give the best results, even with very light post stabilisation.

[@ZachShurtz]

@James Reader excellent! Good to know! Haha, I'll definitely be renting it to test it out for myself! Your videos have really helped inform me! Thank you!

[@chainevide]

The need of 2 card slot: is it really needed ? Did you ever fail ?

[@JamesReader]

I have never had a card fail personally but no matter how rare, it is a possibility

[@chainevide]

@@JamesReader Well, if you buy good cards, there is no reason. Also, if you have the case of 1 card fail, not sure the camera will work well on the other card, especially if you buy 2 same cards models at same time. ;)

[@jacksonpetit1983]

Just want to confirm. In the R6II the corner wobble is apparent when IBIS is turned on and can the IBIS be turned off?

[@JamesReader]

Correct! You can turn the IBIS off.

[@jacksonpetit1983]

@@JamesReader Ok. Thanks for the info.

[@filipzamec9671]

Thanks for the review. The overheating itself is really a problem for video. It means that I cannot trust this camera at all. It is much bigger deal than stabilization. 30 mins of shooting 4k60 at the wedding? And then what? :) I like however, that it doesn't crop at higher frame rates.

[@JamesReader]

Totally agree. A real shame and the major compromise when selecting the R8.

[@fraserembrey5676]

The R8 lacks a mechanical shutter‽ I didn't realise, that makes it a bit useless for me because I hate the rolling shutter effect that I often get in electronic shutter mode

[@JamesReader]

You can use EFCS to avoid rolling shutter. But the max it goes up to is 1/4000.

[@fraserembrey5676]

@@JamesReader Isn't EFCS only meant for cameras with a mechanical shutter to reduce shake from the shutter curtain opening? How does that help with rolling shutter?