CANON RF 24-70mm f2.8L IS REVIEW |The MUST HAVE Mirrorless LENS?!

[@froknowsphoto]

Yes, it's true. FroPack2 is now out and you can check it out right here froknowsphoto.com/fropack2/ Don't forget you can download sample RAW files at the link in the description.

[@GreenRC24]

I'm really liking the FroPack2, Gritty is my favorite so far.

[@ikusanjay]

How does it perform against tamron 24-70 2.8 g2? As i have purchased that lens... Please reply

[@GreenRC24]

@@ikusanjay The Canon version should be better than the Tameron. If your photography is just a hobby then don't worry about it, the Tameron will be fine.

[@Mohammad_saleh88]

H😮😊😊😮😢😮😮830kg

[@frankcee4342]

Despite nit-pickers and people who need a chill pill, your reviews are excellent. They give us the info we need to make an informed decision on what system or component to invest in whether amateurs, like myself, or pros. Mirrorless is a game changer and eventually I hope they moderate in price like flat screen TV's did since the time they first came out. Thanks for providing a valuable service to the photography enthusiasts, whether amateur or pro.

[@JonisKanonis]

You can configure the control ring to only make inputs while holding the shutter button to its first detent. Might be worth a try!

[@pjkreis]

JonisKanonis Exactly...there is no “accidentally” changes! I personally love the ring! Its so easy to use...!

[@CheeseOnEverything]

The 3 control dials to complete the exposure triangle is game changing.

[@DoubleE_Aviation]

@@CheeseOnEverything agree. iso aperture shutter all without moving my hands...

[@nessviggo]

What I came here to write 👍🏽 I use it for EC and it’s a game changer .

[@ThomasHalways]

I have also disabled this ring. It is useless to me as well, but if you like it, you have it. Controls on the camera have the advantage that they are on the same, trusty place for all lenses.

[@LeonWei]

Control ring is revolutionary. I use it for changing ISO value as my values of shutter speed and aperture are usually fixed. Great for photo and video works

[@thinkinginpictures4071]

It's like a storm of eos R videos have hit YT in the past week..and right before the holidays. Canon knows how to market.

[@Savage1776_]

I'll pick one up used about 3 months ago for $1,500. Mint condition. Actually really nice little camera.. the new firmware update made it even better

[@themjian]

Not marketing... it's the reality popping up after using it in the real world.

[@CheeseOnEverything]

It's more like, youtubers know how to do business. Cuz without an eos R, they wont be able to receive those RF lenses from canon.

[@ThomasHalways]

Thank you, finally someone mentions this back cap issue with RF. It is horrible. Both Canon EF and Nikon F caps are symmetric and can be put on blindly in 3 possible orientations, worse case turn 120 degree. Here this thing jams if put on wrongly, requires up to 360 degree turn. Stunning. When I wrote about that in dPreview forum, Canon fanboys who probably never change a lens in dim light or on the move, replied with a hurricane of objections "what, a lens cap, you are so wrong to write that." It is sad that Canon, a pro oriented camera maker commits this unforced error with this cap design.

[@gameshoes]

I think that the lock mechanism is for when the lens is stowed in a bag with the hood on. Sometimes the hood can catch on something, and start pulling the lens. I have had a few lenses do this so I try to engage the lock (if there is one) before putting the lenses away.

[@Gabez82]

Jared, pay no mind of the zoom lock. It’s a nice touch. With age, some lenses do tend to creep.

[@RossJukesPhotography]

I have this lens and have been using it on the ‘R’ for a couple of weeks now and I completely agree, it’s amazing! It really makes the R feel like a ‘real’ camera and I would argue it is one of the best pieces of Canon glass ever made! ❤️

[@SalticidaeFan]

My 24-70 EF didn’t creep when it was new either but now it does, so I predict the lock button will prove to be useful in the future.

[@eddie_santos]

The Canon 24-70 2.8 with IS should have been on the last Canon 24-70 2.8 II. Nikon had their 24-70 2.8 with VR for long time. And now the have it for the mirroless only. Since I use two cards for weddings on my Canon 5dkmk3 (yes I had few times when one card went bad) so the the Canon mirrorless with one card DOES NOT work for "ME", After playing with the Sony 7aiii and the camera having built-in IS, I sold all my canon cameras and few old lenses. I got two Sony 7aiii and the Sony 24-70 2.8, I also kept my Canon 85 1.4 IS which with the MC-11 works great with the Sony. I feel Canon needs to move faster and their marketing dept listen more to people comments as many are switching after even decades with them. i was over 20 years with Canon and my clients are doing their events and not waiting on companies to do their special days. Hi Jared! Bid fan here of your videos. Hope to see you when I go to Philly next time!

[@hunglemed]

that angle and the way the singer raise his hand is really a challenge for any EyeAF system, not only canon R

[@siemworks7078]

Nice Finally ❤️😍 but regarding the ring, there is an option that the ring only does something if you push the shutter a little bit, so that shouldn’t be that big of a problem. I have this lens and it already earned it expenses back, period. The close focusing made me make a lot of extra cool macro shots

[@bioliv1]

The control ring is placed correctly on the 70-200 mm.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Looks about as good as the other 24-70 2.8 from Sony and Nikon, also at 2200+ usd. I think the new Sigma will be the disruptive lens, because it could offer similar quality at literally half the price. I also love the photo at 14:00.

[@lifesbeautiful3024]

Great vid, Jared. Would love to see a comparison between this and the 28-70 f2. Also, did the EOS R you were using have the updated eye af?

[@cordellhurst2556]

That lock _does_ make a difference. The EF II version had it too. I walk around all day with it hanging low at my hip and it'll creep out. Whether it's from gravity or the barrel rotating, I can't be sure just yet. The old one would fall out just from gravity. I use the RF on an R5.

[@chinthakarathnamalala9437]

My EOS r eye detecting foucus amazing.It works for me pretty well in low light conditions.no complain

[@michaelhampton2688]

No problem here either. For a fast moving person I adjust the AF tracking sensitivity with no issues at all.

[@rjmusicltd]

I have been using this for 9 years with an a7s with a metabones adaptor. It still blows people away.

[@robinferand]

Agreed. The lens caps on RF lenses are such a pain to align. It was just fine on the EF...

[@traumhaftealpenweltmirkowe5619]

I' am using the new Canon EOS R5 MARK II since a few weeks with my EF 70 - 200 2,8 III with the EF - R adapter at the concerts for photos and videos but I have ordered the RF 24 - 70 2, 8 . I hope the quality will be great.

[@esanctuary]

so which one will you use? for blogging and food photography? 15-35 vs 24-70?

[@Crakmonkey691]

I have the tamron 24-70mm G2 F2.8 Lens....but when I get the new canon eos R5 I want upgrade to this lens....would u do a comparison video between both of these lens.

[@faroukzanou7242]

yea am also interested in a review of these two lens

[@gringostacos4738]

Omg! I just shot my first wedding video this weekend predominantly on a Canon 5D Mk II and a 50mm 1.4 as that's what I could afford. I just saw a review for a Canon R5 and it brought me here. My mind is blown. 🤯

[@RandomWalker1995]

Thank you for reviewing the Lens! you are the first from the big you tube channels to review it in my opinion ! Thank you!

[@scientist100]

I'm not a professional but own the Mark 5D Mark IV with 50mm 1.8 Lens, 24-70 2.8 USM & 70-200 f4 IS USM, I use this for casual family shots and product photography, now I need the damn Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro lens for small ring & necklace photo.

[@bobbybrown5180]

Great job and thanks for the sample images...on the fence upgrading from the the version II!

[@martindivino1804]

What would you buy, and why? RF 24-70mm 2.8f is Or RF 28-70mm 2.0f

[@zefa17]

Martin Divino i’ve thinking back and forth too. The drawbacks for me is that 28-70 is 1.4k

[@bilcarter]

You know, there is a lock button that prevents you from making changes with the control ring...

[@deanbrandon3615]

Ok, one lens to rule them all--Do you pick the 24-70mm or the 15-35mm? Not both. would you miss the wide-angle features with the 24-70mm, or would you miss the extra mm with the other?

[@FordSierraIS]

you need both. or get a 50mm additionally to the 15-35

[@deanbrandon3615]

Seems to me, the 15-35 would be my first buy, then the 70-200, then? Maybe a 50mm.

[@deanbrandon3615]

Well, just starting out with my R6 with the 24-105 f4.0. It's great as an all-around lens. I think I will bite the bullet and get this 24-70 f2.8, with later additions of the 15-35 f2.8 and the 70-200 f2.8 Yes, the trinity. I thought about a prime, or maybe even the 28-70 f2.0, but that, I would rarely take advantage of properly.

[@bearramelk7697]

Hi Jared great series of videos. The reason they've added a lock (1:26), I hope, is to stop zoom creep when it's pointing down on a tripod eg overhead product or macro shots. My EF 24-70 is smooth and tight but the zoom creeps ever so slowly when pointing down - so much so I've had to use gaffer tape or elastic bands :/

[@kamilswe3942]

Hi Jared, did you use updated camera to new 1,4 software version?

[@geotoub]

Jared, if we want to make a proper review of this lens, we should directly compare it with the legendary Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II USM lens - preferably on a DSLR (not a mirrorless with adaptor). Because if the "old" L glass on a DSLR gives better image quality results, that would be a shock for the "mirrorless dream"! Do we dare make such a comparison ?! Thanks for the wonderful reviews, by the way, keep working with passion!

[@nessviggo]

Btw, the RF mount is not “of course much larger” than EF, still.. it’s the exact same 54mm internal diameter. 👍🏽

[@ThomasHalways]

Indeed, see canon's white paper, page 8 for explanations and diagrams. Nikon's Z is merely 1mm larger, in a sense they simply matched the diameter of the EF...

[@MarkoNara]

Thanks for using metric system.. the whole of the world and the scientific comunity (minus U.S. citizens) apreciate that...

[@marksimmons9920]

Kind of weird how the pro-metric people like the flaunt their ignorance - really how hard is it to understand what a pound is? - while at the same time trying to appear all superior... as if the inability to understand basic English puts you in the same category as a scientist! As it happens we are still waiting for a metric country to put a man on the moon...

[@MarkoNara]

@@marksimmons9920 as far as we know.. Nasa used metric to put a man on the moon..

[@marksimmons9920]

@@MarkoNara You can certainly go through and find a a handful of areas, sometimes that the German engineers worked on, though most of it was done by American engineers in traditional units. Nasa drew on a huge array of engineering and science, some used different measurements but most engineering in that area was in English units. (In terms of accuracy it's all irrelevant anyway as both systems are now defined according to the same base SI definitions). Even in the 1990s people were moaning that Nasa was using English measurements. Now I'm not saying a nation using the metric system cannot ever land a man on the moon ... but it hasn't happened yet. There's a wider point though - why not accept different languages and cultures and learn what a pound is? Like food, language, music, political traditions etc it's nice to have differences around the world.

[@rightshotphotography2576]

Lots of us Engineers in the USA use metric. In my job we do a lot of work using our customer’s drawings. Some use metric and some use imperial units. We have to constantly switch back and forth! Lots of US companies use metric too!

[@marksimmons9920]

@moo Not really - both are exactly as accurate as the other - both being defined by the same SI base units. As for day to day use, most people who know both systems generally prefer to use traditional measures in every day life as it's more sophisticated and appropriate to human experience, refined over many centuries. We end up with lvoely easy to use numbers - eg 6 feet or 6 ounces etc. Indeed in many coutries that went metric governments had to use the law to force people to change as most people if given the choice wouldn't change as in day to day life the metric system is inferior - indeed one could say objectively inferior insofar as it doesn't tend to mix well with normal human experiences. It does sound like you need to broaden your mind a little! Don't be scared of difference and diversity. You sound like those people who tried to stamp out the Welsh and Irish languages.

[@GallicGarlic]

So.. is the RF better than the EF equivalent?

[@AlSo-Fotografie]

overall sharper and much sharper in the corners if someone interested in^^

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Debating on picking up either the RF or EF II version for my EOS R. $1600 vs $2300 with the purpose of shooting events like Quinceaneras with on camera flash. Do you believe the image quality difference warrants the extra $700 or would the EF II be just fine?

[@Sergei__v]

Jared, you can't accidentally change anything with a control ring, the shutter release button has to be half pressed at the same time to make any change with the control ring on the lens.

[@mikebenning2409]

it depends on your settings.

[@vitaliyvelichko9390]

Can some one do comparison between RF 24-70mm va RF 28-70mm at low light shooting and overall ????

[@Mikri90]

Picking up the 24-70 for that shot of the guitarist in the crowd was a happy accident. You'd probably be tempted to go wider, but 24 is just wide enough to provide context yet still keep the subject large and prominent in the scene. You'd have the 24mm with the 15-35 of course but you wouldn't necessarily try it on the spot :) That's a great shot Jared.

[@DanielGonzzz]

Here's to hoping the wish at 2:50 comes true and Canon releases the improved EOS R V2 with IBIS, dual card slot, and in-body video recording RAW 12-bit 4K @ 60fps! CMON CANON DO IT!

[@mrbob581]

Prayer answered meet the r5 mark Ii

[@ikusanjay]

How does it perform against tamron 24-70 2.8 g2? As i have purchased that lens...

[@mattstoller3970]

Maybe the lock prevents creep when using large, heavy filters or ring lights?

[@CharlieVN]

Matt Stoller despite how stiff it is now, it loosens over time.

[@AndyKunkel]

@@CharlieVN yeah, knowing Jared, I'm surprised he didn't cover that possibility in this video.

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

Loved this. The sample images are great. Can’t wait to see you do a review of the 15-35

[@Mandowar69]

Should I Sell my Canon 80D to put money down on EOS R? Really thinking about doing this...

[@snortthisshit]

Did you do it? I have a 60D and the leap to an R would be amazing. Sooo tempted but coronavirus means no work.

[@Mandowar69]

Kieran Scott I have not. R is so pricey. Just going to save up lol

[@snortthisshit]

@@Mandowar69 Hopefully the price drops once the R5/R6 is released soon.

[@Mandowar69]

Kieran Scott that’s true. I really do hope so. I mean the 80d still hasn’t really drop in price either. So I really doubt they’ll drop it on the R

[@snortthisshit]

@@Mandowar69 I just bought one but Canon Rumours says EOS R to drop a few hundred around end Sept. www.canonwatch.com/canon-eos-r-firmware-update-and-price-drop-coming/

[@RickMentore]

The portrait at 7:00 is fantastic.

[@darylcheshire1618]

The EF24-70mm f/2.8L first series was a massive beast and I wasn’t using it all that much. I considered the later EF24-70 f/4L. When I got the R5, I realized there is no RF24-70mm f/4, so I got the RF24-105mm f/4 which is the closest thing. I was worried the RF24-70mm f/2.8 might weigh the same as the massive beast.

[@justinholding02]

Would you say it's currently the best 24-70 out there?

[@dlee13]

Hey Jared great review! For the photo at 14:05 would there be any benefit to Eye AF though? For the focal length, Aperture and subject distance, wouldn't Face Detect AF be enough to get his whole face in focus?

[@MultiCoolzero]

First from Switzerland 🇨🇭💪💪💪

[@alexandregodard]

For the record, The EF 24-70 II USM cost 2700€ when it was new. I don't know how it was abroad

[@kirannama]

All I want to know, can this lens deliver good result in the upcoming 60 or 70 megapixel(roumred) pro EOS R camera??

[@amberwilson588]

Have you compared the 28-70 F2 to the 24-70 F2.8? Which would you prefer if you can only afford to get one.

[@gm3353]

I have the EF version. Worth the upgrade?

[@JanineMKartist]

I wish it wasnt so expensive . Will have to opt for used EF version with adapter. I just got the r6 Mark ii. Still have to set it up following your tutorial

[@luisneumannp2748]

Would be cool to see a comparison between the 24-70s from Canon, Nikon, Panasonic and Sony to actually see who has the best lenses

[@actionphotopassion5082]

Would be interesting indeed but very few chances that happens. Haven't you noticed that there is already never any direct comparisons of the new ML lenses vs their more "ancient" DSLR versions...? So I guess it will be the same for ML lenses no direct comparison from a brand to another.

[@PhotographerSen]

Great review! very useful. Please do o comparison between RF trinity and EF trinity. I'm excited about the RF 24-70, but still can't bear the price, compared to ef 24-70 f2.8. Will it be a bad decision to get ef version for EOS R and save some money to get another ef prime?

[@willdorak985]

Very honest review as always !

[@7743dustin]

Should I get 24-70 or 70-200 first? All o have is a nifty fifty right now. Really wanting the 70-200

[@omranmohammed4811]

Please dont do my mistake i did buy the 70-200 first . I really regret i se the first lens to buy is 24-105. But between 24-70 and 70-200 offcours ill take 24-70 then buy 70-200 if i can

[@CheeseOnEverything]

You can set the control ring to only function at half press

[@kevinm8617]

Jammin Jessie is best DJ on 104.5. Sunday nights at 9 are my favorite. I like these review videos.

[@bioliv1]

The control ring is correct on the 70-200 mm. In the future I think they will move it back on the other lenses as well. For me I plan to buy a 20 mm and a 50 mm primes art lenses from Sigma, to avoid the control ring, and the 70-200 mm from Canon, when they get a good camera with joystick. According to Attilio Ruffo you only need these 3 lenses as a landscape shooter.

[@howardduran4148]

Hello, waiting for the R5/6, I’m going to buy my first RF lens, which would recommend? I do a little video most photography. 15-35 or 24-70, plan to buy the trinity eventually. Thx

[@JuanLopezmusica]

You have any video comparing 27 to 70mm va 24 to 105mm?

[@jonathan_careless]

If Canon doesn't finally release a RF 35mm f1.2 this year I may just cave and buy this.

[@TankTastic]

That lock is most necessary for me. When walking around with the camera on your shoulders, the camera lens always bumps your body and it often extends the lens. That’s just me though, I think. Lol

[@DThomasPorter]

Having no luck "on the internet," thought it best to turn to the expert: Jared, how well does the IS system of the RF 24-105 L work with the IS system of the Canon R6 or R5? Which IS system takes precedence? If neither, how are they coordinated? How are conflict issues resolved?

[@SnA88]

Should I have this lens? or should I aim for 85mm lens? I have 35mm 1.8 stm

[@5pu7nik]

My EOSR have no issues eye af in any low light scenarios, but then again there have been software updates after this video was released.

[@Simon-SBL]

2,300 isn't too crazy, but the initial kit out is going to be a bank buster if you want to go all-in native glass!

[@TheRaleyFamily]

FYI, your Amazon affiliate link on the description and landing page goes to the wrong lens - the RF 28-70 f2, not the 24-70 f2.8. You might want to fix that.

[@tebitan3780]

The lock is if you put the camera lens down in your bag. Very useful.

[@joeink37]

Long time fan, rare commenter. Always enjoy your take on things. I agree that the rear cap on these RF lenses is problematic, but I was surprised to hear that you're putting the cap back on when you switch lenses at a concert. Is this common? I never put my caps back on any lenses I'm using on a shoot. They just go in and out of my side bag and I make sure before each shoot that I don't have any random shrapnel in there. Anyway, just curious. Apart from that, keep it up and thanks for all the useful, candid and truly entertaining content over the years.

[@davey3765]

I wish they somehow could have kept this version all internal with grouped elements so the lens didn't extend out when zooming, but Ill take what I can get - I own it and it is my most used lens but wow is it heavy. Canon any chance of a pancake 24-70 ;)

[@sonicvboom]

How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F2.8 24-70mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?

[@vnyden]

Wait, what do you mean "the EOS R and the EOS RP do not have image stabilized censors". I thought that they do have in body image stabilization because on my EOS RP I can turn on and off IS in the settings. Is this switch on the RF 24-70 just a faster and easier way to turn that feature on and off without having to go into settings?

[@camxiong]

I enable the control ring to select the AF method, and it's been working great!

[@johnmckay428]

let me just jump in here real quick and give this review a thumbs up

[@Timmynewtron-cd3gq]

People talk more than actually showing how the camera lens shoot

[@MrJustwatchin9]

The ef caps actually fit on the rf lenses without any issue.

[@sydneyazadaar3534]

Hey Jared, for the rf jack of all trades, would you pickup a 28-70 f2 or 24-70 f2.8 for a photographer mainly shooting weddings, events and portraits?

[@omranmohammed4811]

Bro sydney 28-70 is a photographer lens . 24-70 is still perfect for both which im getting offcours

[@ronnietj8010]

I just order the RF 24-70mm lens. Thanks for the review friend. On top of that! is it comes with the hood for lens? and what is the Polarizer size of it?

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

It’s 82MM filter thread size and has a lens hood.

[@mathu_stans]

What are your thoughts about the romoured oncoming tamron 75-180 ish, sony e-mount?

[@bioliv1]

It will probably give a lot of vignetting using filters at 180 mm f2.8, as it's too narrow. It should have been 68,2 mm minimum, without filters. So wait for Sigma 70-200 sports lens. Guess it will be announced sometimes in the first quarter of 2020.

[@6gwilliams]

Well done Jared, very fair and honest. Also love your shout-out to Allen's Camera,also my camera store of choice since it opened. Cheers

[@theonewhoroars]

first reply in 8 months

[@foxhouse_tips]

Canon making a good lens choise for their system! Maybe it will work!

[@mariap6271]

Can you please do a comprehensive comparison review of the RF 85 1.2 DS vs the non DS . I’m waiting on your opinion before my purchase. Thank you

[@JuliusRay91]

can the Fropacks be used in Camera Raw? or is it just Lightroom only?

[@paullanoue5228]

If you are twenty feet from a subject at 70mm with EOS R the depth of field is 4.2 feet. Why would you need IAF?

[@johnnyc5922]

10:19 Yes there's lens flare, on the back of his knee

[@nicholasboule5134]

very small but def there

[@kyles5258]

And on the light bank on the floor too, but not a big deal

[@jeetmori6963]

'IBIS in Body' I think you forgot the full form there Jared!!

[@furonwarrior]

But how can you shot in full manual without changing the ISO on demand? The EOS R works great with auto iso, but learning how to handle the control ring might be important.

[@feraudyh]

That lens cap difficulty is just a sneaky way of forcing you to buy an extra camera body.

[@simonvidajewelry]

Why Canon older lens adapts beter then Nikon glass to new Mirrorless camras ? Is that related to Image quality or something else?

[@julienb6587]

You have to press half way the shutter button to activate the control ring on the lens…. it is perfectly design and secure so you can't change settings by just touching it! Please make sure you know well the product before reviewing.

[@tiinasoderholm]

Argh this just makes me want it more and more! Just got my R body and loving it. Just a little too small grip and buttons are slightly off for my hand. Coming from eos 6d, which was perfect for my hand! This lens is now 2200€ in one big shop and 250€ cash back from Canon because I bought camera body... So only 1950€

[@BastiaanvandeWerk]

Tiina Söderholm Same here! Wondering, do I keep my Sigma 24-105 art) or upgrade to this beauty....

[@tiinasoderholm]

@@BastiaanvandeWerk I got it actually in november to my trip in Malta. Now I have debt but I love it. It has some minor distortion but lightroom got last updat new lens profile to fix most of it and those black corners also. But again these wide to zoom always have compromises and in this lens they are minimal!

[@JJohnson313]

You cant compare (accurately) eye auto focus from two different venues, two different lighting setups, and different lens, and say you have a definitive answer on which BODY has the better eye auto focus. Too many variables. If you shootin both the same night one after the other then yes.

[@froknowsphoto]

Yea, thus why i didn't say definitively. I said in my opinion using it in the situations i've used it in.

[@lifestylevisualz]

Can you pull it like that without twisting it and not messing up the lens?

[@froknowsphoto]

Yes but it wouldn't be practical during a shoot.

[@markshirley01]

Sounds like if you need a easy life buy a Sony A9, and because of the MK2 it's not much different in price from the Z and R.

[@Grasseatereu]

can i use it with my ef glass (reliably)?

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

I'll have mine next week. Let's see how it is!

[@photographerjonathan]

without seeing any actual pixel peeping tests of the new Canon glass, it seems like Canon is making some great glass, the 50 and 85 f1.2 lenses seem sweet, and from what I hear they are allot better quality than there old DSLR versions of the same lenses. and from what I hear, all the new glass blows away all there DSLR glass, but the 28/70 f2 is not something I would ever deal with. why carry a lens that is heavier than a 70/200 just to get f2. with my Sony I have f1.8 primes that are super small and light for when I want faster than f2.8 and they are allot less money and still faster than f2. Canon seems like there focusing works fine for portrait shoots, but any situation that challenges it a little bit or the subject is a further distance away and the eye focusing doesn't work. where any of the new Sony Cameras will catch an eye no problem 99% of the time. and the same thing with sports or wildlife, from what I hear the Canon mirrorless doesn't totally cut it, and the fact that Canon is about to put out a 1DX lll that is a DSLR says it all. Because if Canon was capable of making a Mirrorless that could complete with the A9 and A9ll they would be making a full size sports camera that was mirrorless. but I don't think you will see that from Canon for another couple of years. so they are putting out the 1DX lll DSLR to buy themselves some time to catch up to Sony. but I don't think Canon will ever totally catch up, maybe they will catch up to the point that it is good enough, but I think Sony will always have some new technology that keeps them ahead. but Canon at least needs to put out a new model with two card slots. and just one other point about Canon and there new mount. I think they shot themselves in the foot a little bit by making it so big. now all of there lenses need to be wider or bigger at the mount. and for there smaller apsc cameras they are going to also have to use the big mount. witch means all the apsc glass is gong to be huge where it connects to the mount. unless someone wants to buy there crappy M system with it's crappy glass. Jared I am curious, when you do your concert photography, what percentage of the time do you think you need wider than 24mm ?

[@froknowsphoto]

I’ve been saying it for over a year now that canons glass is the best of the bunch.

[@photographerjonathan]

@@froknowsphoto you've been saying it for over a year, how many new lenses did canon have over a year ago ? even now they only have a hand full, and you are coming to those conclusions just by you own feelings. not by any actually side by side detailed testing between brands. because you don't ever test lenses in a detailed way like some people or companies do. but i am not saying you feeling about the new Canon glass is wrong. they have some really nice glass, and maybe it is the best glass out. but I would still like to see some better testing that actual proves it one way or the other. but I have to ask, did you only read the top of my comment. because my question to you was at the bottom. and your reply didn't answer it. because i was curious how often the wider zoom actually makes it onto your camera when doing concert photography.

[@TheRo0ro0]

Can you please compare 35 prime with 35 on 24-70