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3 жыл бұрын

Canyon Spectral VS Canyon Strive
Finally had a few days on both bikes, on a good mix of tracks in Europe. Today I went to San Remo in Italy to do some times on some rougher chunky stuff. They are super close and if I had to ride either one I would be happy. Dam you Canyon for making 2 real good bikes, that I have to stress out over which one to race 🤣. You can stop commenting asking what bike I like more on every video I put up now haha. Next off season I will try play around with some angle sets/offset headsets to change the angles/wheel base a little, just didn't have the parts with the supply shortage from the pandemic.
Thanks for watching!
Spectral geo compared to strive with current setup:
Top Tube: -25mm
Head Tube: -12mm
Head angle: -1 degree
Chain stay length: +2mm
Wheel base: +21mm
Reach: +15mm
ST angle: +3

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@danielpelosi
@danielpelosi 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you could race a shopping cart down the hill and still podium 😂 . Love the channel 🤘
@peterhaworth6859
@peterhaworth6859 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis jack, really enjoyed your viewpoint, good luck with the new season dude👌
@mtbberta7872
@mtbberta7872 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jack for sharing your insight! Having had both bikes I definitely see what you mean. Love both bikes and couldn’t agree more! Good luck this season!
@countryseller
@countryseller 3 жыл бұрын
When you first dropped in. I thought. Whoa. Jack’s mechanic is a total pinner! Didn’t realise till the end it was the party boi on the camera.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah Tom goes good, but party boi is very fast!
@soulzerosix
@soulzerosix 3 жыл бұрын
Great insight Jack, thanks! This is was of the most interesting mtb videos I've ever watched. So good to see a pro racer's thought process. I would have never guessed one would choose the "older" geometry bike to race on, but it makes sense the way you explained it. If you could have Canyon make a custom frame just for you to race on what would the geo and travel be like? Also, since you like sharing your set up, can you do a video on tyre choice? What's your favourite tread and what changes do you do for different track conditions? Cheers & good luck at the races!
@accordingtopreston
@accordingtopreston 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best technical comparisons I've ever seen on youtube, combined with sick riding. Best of luck this season!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo, thanks Man 👊🏻
@tonyo5
@tonyo5 3 жыл бұрын
Such a refreshing way to watch you explain the differences on both of these “similar” 150 bikes. Clear and straightforward comparison. Well done mate and good luck come race day!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was worried My point wouldn't come across properly 😅
@scottfitzgerald_nz_mtb
@scottfitzgerald_nz_mtb 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review on both bikes jack. all the best for the season.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Man. Excited to get started next week!
@charlied3732
@charlied3732 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant comparo, cheers. The time and effort to share this is appreciated. Insane riding… Now the decision is made, you’ll be able to focus on the one.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏻
@davidpfaffenberger5019
@davidpfaffenberger5019 3 жыл бұрын
Very insightful advice on bike tuning!
@trexbowlingclub1960
@trexbowlingclub1960 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one and great to hear your thought process on your decision! And while so many wonder how an updated strive will look like, maybe there is no real reason to update it (a lot), since these two bike complement each other and offer distinct advantages... I'm also surprised that both bikes apparently work so well even with 180 mm in the front, but good to know how different you can set them up. Right now I'm happy with my 150 pike Speccy. Cheers and good luck!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah My 150 pike Speccy is still My bike of choice for ripping the trails back home 😎. Thanks Mate!
@usernamwdrama
@usernamwdrama 3 жыл бұрын
That was rad, super interesting and props for telling it like it is without any BS. The pommy geeza piss take was gold, made me bleedin' larf guvna, do what, cor blimey. Roll on EWS #1.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks M8. Haha I tried
@jamiehamilton3253
@jamiehamilton3253 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome insight on soooo many levels! This is what most riders I think want to know especially from someone who really can separate the benefits for key riding scenarios. For me this answers the question that I'd rather have confidence and agility in the tech and sacrifice a lil security in the flat out straight lines. As it's the tech where you actually need to utilize your skills! Well for me anyway! Awesome video cheers! Braaaap! 🙌
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Jack! Sounds like a Spectral and a Strive both in the stable is the way to go.
@samdavison-wall4972
@samdavison-wall4972 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video. Despite the fact you're a way better rider than any of the folks interested in watching this video, you still made it super relevant and probably helped out some young riders massively with bike setup and racing.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dude 🤘🏼
@Alyn321
@Alyn321 3 жыл бұрын
Just come across the channel and fair play doing a great job! Awesome content and new subscriber 🤘🤘🤘
@sheev29
@sheev29 3 жыл бұрын
nice vid jack very interesting ! i wish you all the best in EWS gogogogo ! ;)
@McLOVIN_456
@McLOVIN_456 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video It‘s really what i want to see Thank you 🙏❤️
@the510wagon
@the510wagon 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this vid!
@spinthatup3851
@spinthatup3851 3 жыл бұрын
Really good run down mate, enjoyed that a lot
@arlo4127
@arlo4127 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, well done on the process to choose the best bike for the job and not just sticking to what you thought was going to be ideal. Ironically when I got a '20 Strive the Spectral was still 27.5 so it was the opposite to how they compare now!. Loving your vids, and good luck come raceday!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh full 180 haha. I felt bad cause they painted Me a knew custom strive and I wasn't gonna use it. All good now though 😁
@jeremiemcclean1635
@jeremiemcclean1635 3 жыл бұрын
I ride an ‘18 Slayer and you helped me understand why the less progressive linkage allowed me to feel less fatigued on longer rides. Was looking at the Altitude but now considering the Strive. Thanks gentleman Jack👊🏽
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Chyeaaa boi 👊🏻
@nathanbrooks6423
@nathanbrooks6423 3 жыл бұрын
That was a solid explanation of geometry differences in both bikes and the way it changes which is more suitable in different circumstances. As a newbie it puts in perspective what you need to consider when looking for an all rounder to suit your local trails, when researching it’s easy to be hypnotised into thinking long and slack with steep STA is the best way, for a plodder like me who is never charging anything more than Glenrock, Awaba XC, Stromlo, Thredbo flow etc I am glad I went with ‘conservative’ geo. Shortish wheel base, 140/130, 66 HTA, 75 STA. Cheers for the vid, enjoying following your journey.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate 👊🏻
@patryka11
@patryka11 3 жыл бұрын
That was great knowledge. Thank you! :)
@bej0909
@bej0909 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant insight into how a pro analyses and chooses a rig. What a legend!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man 🤙🏻
@martinez2405
@martinez2405 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro, end conclusion makes sense to
@martinez2405
@martinez2405 3 жыл бұрын
But you forgot to mention speccy with coil is best of both worlds haha
@NerfHerdsman
@NerfHerdsman 3 жыл бұрын
Mad riding and mad analysis! Good luck on the one that starts with an S (no spoilers)
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks Mate!
@philipp_wi
@philipp_wi 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice comparsion and description how you feel on them. I think the 180 fork and Megneg is perfect for the Strive. I run the same on my Strive without that special spacer 😜 and it feels like super fluffy 🤗 Real nice riding from you and dimi 🔥🔥 Also finally you run your gopro chesty cam with superview 😝 Much better angle than your last videos from home. Best luck for the EWS Jack 🤟🏻
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats the feeling, bit fluffier haha. Yeah bit better setup ay!
@greenplanetmowing4626
@greenplanetmowing4626 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack, good luck mate and thanks for the explanation ... go you good thing!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate!
@lynxg4641
@lynxg4641 3 жыл бұрын
Jack, when I started watching was very curious how this would go and have to say, you did a bang up job, especially with the breakdown of the ride characteristics of both bikes and how it can effect you depending on what sort of riding you're doing. Especially good point comparing racing DH to Enduro, where practice is limited, no sense running your own trails all the time and getting faster and faster, saying that slack & long is best, when that won't be the case on most Enduro races and will likely not remember every corner and need to make some split second reaction, decisions when you come on a tight corner you forgot about. Only thing I will say that I think is a bit "weird" is that you put a 180mm fork on both, which for the Strive is only 10mm than stock, whereas for the Spectral it's 30mm more travel, so the geo of the Strive would only have changed about 1/2 degree, whereas the Spectral would have changed by about 1.5 degrees, making it somewhere around 63 degrees HTA and the Strive a 64.5 degree HTA, which is actually closer to the Spectral geo with stock 150mm travel fork. To me this says you want geo of the Spectral or close, but based around 180mm travel in the fork with a less progressive suspension. Now this all really doesn't add up just saying travel, you need to have a specific A2C height to compare, because if you just compare the CF7 to CF8 version of the Spectral, the CF7 comes with a 150mm RS Lyric and the CF8 comes with a 160mm FOX F36, but then the Strive V7 comes with a 170mm Fox F36 and the V8 comes with a 170mm Lyric. So it seems on the Spectral they're changing travel to make sure the A2C matches, but not on the Strive? :-\
@exhibitD79
@exhibitD79 3 жыл бұрын
I think the GEO changes are more on the Strive as there is a spacer under the Head Tube (as many Canyon pro racers add) to increase H/A
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@exhibitD79 Yeahpp!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate, tried to describe what I felt, wasn't sure if that would translate properly to others. Yeah to make a long story short, basically I want to run 180 up front for the gnarly tracks over here.. It comes in at 63.1 on the spectral, and 64 on the strive. I didn't think this would be too bad as some bikes are running 63.5 HA stock. I really need to play around with angle sets on spectral to do this properly, didn't have the time or resources this year (have been on a pike for the last few months at home). I'm trying to see what is the better bike for me to race enduro on, and there is no chance I'll ever be running a 150 fork for that, so I can't match A2C of stock bike.
@BroughtonVisuals
@BroughtonVisuals 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video mate, after my first year racing state enduros I can agree with so many of your points. long wheelbase does not mesh well with enduro 😂
@karutatv5515
@karutatv5515 2 жыл бұрын
awesome comparison...JM is 💪
@leonunes9788
@leonunes9788 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool video. Thanks
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏻
@180sxdeano
@180sxdeano 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I just got my spectral, love it, was actual faster around my local XC track at kentlyn, than on my 2019 norco sight, but yeah I feel the length when I whip, almost stuffed up as I yanked well hard to get it out sideways!
@DrewJ79
@DrewJ79 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that Canyon bikes can take a beating like that. I bought a Canyon Stoic 4 for my first Canyon bike and am now looking at getting a full sus. The spectral is the one I'm currently looking at for my main trail bike and was wondering how they hold up against other brands.
@mrinferno4876
@mrinferno4876 3 жыл бұрын
I ride a bully 27.5 spectral. I love it ... Good luck with the races. Shine like Troy 🤙🏆🥇
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude
@jakecaine4371
@jakecaine4371 3 жыл бұрын
Good video mate 👍
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man
@barrydunne78
@barrydunne78 3 жыл бұрын
think when i take out my 2021 cf8 strive tomorrow, i wont 2nd guess it no more, super honest review from a different perspective
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏻
@kinehstdenstad6683
@kinehstdenstad6683 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for the detailed comparison! I'm hoping to get a Spectral (fingers crossed there will be some available eventually). I'm curious if you ever tried running the Spectral in the "high" setting on the FlipChip?
@petnym
@petnym 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a really, really good comparison! And good choice, mate!! Surprised I found myself being nervous for what you would say in the end - since I couldn´t find any real good comparison when I chose myself this winter - but ended up choosing the 2021 Strive eventually for the technical, rocky and tight trails here on the west coast of Sweden. Thanks for confirming my theory! I would also like to add that in "click-mode" the Strive turns into a really good pedaling and climbing trail bike or even borderline XC bike, especially with lighter tires and if you slam the seat all the way forward. One bike to rule them all! :)
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can't really go wrong with either bike, but sounds like you made a good decision. I did forget to mention that in the video of the strive! but if I raced the spectral I would of ran a rear shock lockout anyway so would of been similar.
@peterklem-goode7613
@peterklem-goode7613 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be cheering hard for ya mate
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man
@dariuszwnuk8114
@dariuszwnuk8114 2 жыл бұрын
Machine Head - Davidian would be sick :)
@Stomperproductions
@Stomperproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Solid choice there Joey
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cheers Joey
@caderidenour642
@caderidenour642 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool wisdom nuggets here. 10 piece at least, maybe even 20
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyy 20 box for $10... belter
@sammyhed
@sammyhed 3 жыл бұрын
Jeese man. Trying to figure out the difference between the two bikes. Canyon hides the rear travel numbers on their site, took me minutes to figure out that they're both 150mm bikes. They decided to give them similar names too. Genius
@sammyhed
@sammyhed 3 жыл бұрын
Big respect to the man Jack though, from another tall glass of water. I'm 6'6 and I've copied over some of your setup to my bike (tall stack, narrow bars). Feels good man
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@sammyhed yeah for some reason everyone thinks spectral is a smaller travel bike. Probably just cause it comes stock with shorter travel forks. Thanks dude!
@thrashmaster1357
@thrashmaster1357 Ай бұрын
@@moimoitv_ Our first Spectral Bike, back in 2015, was our first 29er Bike with 130mm travel back and front. This is why. Over the years it turns into an light enduro. :)
@jatayuluthi8397
@jatayuluthi8397 3 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻🔥🔥
@AlejandroGarciaIglesias
@AlejandroGarciaIglesias 2 жыл бұрын
Great insights Jack! Would you recommend the Spectral to a more beginner rider that wants to race the occasional local enduro since it seems it would trade in some comfort and some seconds in tighter/techier stuff but provide more safety/stability and have a bit of pop for fun due to the progressivity? Also if that's the case, would you recommend to the same rider to flip the chip to the high setting for tighter/techier or unknown tracks?
@HighsideASB
@HighsideASB 3 жыл бұрын
Nice in depth comparison. Your theory on the limited run, timed laps was the smart way to go. Not just a pretty face after all eh? I got my strive about a year ago sometimes feel I may be over biked for the trails I ride. Ie youies, Bright etc in Vic. But the extra forgiveness has saved noob arse a few times. Figured any decent bike's a good enough bike at my level of riding.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
😂 Yeah, the extra forgiveness definitely makes for a more comfy ride.
@benmason7620
@benmason7620 3 жыл бұрын
Oldelpaso gif- que Mexican music- “why not both” 🤩 mmm taco’s
@jhonerik
@jhonerik 2 жыл бұрын
Really honest review that I have seen at the moment, mate can you give a piece of advice? I'm about to buy a Canyon (strive cf 7 or spectral 29 cf 7) but still can't decide which one of those buy it, I've been riding for over two years now, I usually ride trail and enduro depending on the mood of the day. Wich one can you say I would go for?
@drappennen5704
@drappennen5704 3 жыл бұрын
Well I can’t say I’m upset haha…. As you know I’m one of those pesky race fans wondering what you’d settle on - and a happy little vegemite on my own 2019 Strive. “Why can’t you have both?” To quote a line from that taco ad haha! Mate I actually don’t care what you ride as long as you’re kicking some world class ass under the Aussie flag boi! Best wishes for a killer EWS season and try to keep “ya maddogs” vlogs coming. I know you’ll be busy 🤙🏻
@davidpfaffenberger5019
@davidpfaffenberger5019 3 жыл бұрын
Dim Tordo party boi!! lol appropriate !
@chriskrajewski6568
@chriskrajewski6568 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like enduro mag has reached the same conclusion last year about the strive :)
@jeffreykeena9050
@jeffreykeena9050 3 жыл бұрын
Every dad ever. AHAHA on point
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha it’s there favourite word
@Mark-gh7wn
@Mark-gh7wn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack... First things first: congrats for your ews win! You rode a brilliant season and deserved the win even so I'm pretty sure you would have prefered to race against Richie in Scotland (pretty sure it would have been the same outcome as well 😉). Maybe you can give me a small advice concerning bike setup? I'm thinking about a Megneg upgrade for my spectral 29 but was wondering if the bike kinematics aren't too progressive to begin with? Then I saw you're riding one on your spectral. What are your impressions... Is it a worthy upgrade? Thanks mate!
@thefloydtube
@thefloydtube 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, thanks Jack. Do you think the spectral is too long/slack for your average punter as a trail bike? Some alpine stuff some flatter local trails etc?
@meteormedia7021
@meteormedia7021 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have chosen the Spectral, mainly because I dislike the Shapeshifter thing on the Strive. It just seems like more unnecessarily complicated stuff that could go wrong during a race. Also the more modern geometry suits my riding a lot better. I'm good in the tight and twisty bits, but I want all the help and confidence I can get in the rough and fast sections.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice Man. Sounds like a good pick for your style
@benbenplus
@benbenplus 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that great review. Exactly what I was waiting for. Anyway for me I would choose the Spectral, because it's more capable for a every day use. Touring, Uphill and Trailriding. And with the 160mm fork you can shred as well. Can you say something about the uphill performance on both bikes? Is there a big noticeable difference on the Strive with the Shape Shifter engaged?
@JLambinator
@JLambinator 2 жыл бұрын
Great question. I would love to hear how the two compare in technical climbing and general climbing.
@BarryJTaylor
@BarryJTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Probably the best tech comparo between two bikes ever! PS ... bet that San Remo is nothing like the real one! .... you cant just duck down to Budgee for some fish and chips after ... lol.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mate, haha yeah but you can dip down for a ham and cheese croissant.
@chrisbennett5796
@chrisbennett5796 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. 21.51 "I'm no enduro expert". So it's beginner's luck then? This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a 2020 Strive CF9.0, which I love. I've been thinking about how much it would cost me to make the jump to a Spectral CFR, and honestly, I can't afford it right now. I love the Strive for where I'm riding, and one of my local tracks got a mention, AWABA downhill. I love exploring new places though, and with your wise words (and hard work) Jack, I think I don't need to worry about jumping bikes. What I have is good for me, so not surprisingly, it just feels right on most stuff. The thing is with factory direct bikes, it is hard to get a test ride, so this hard earned info from a "non-enduro expert" (read, enduro world champ) is gold. Thanks Jack and all the best for this season. Hope the shoulder comes good.
@joelrobertson4367
@joelrobertson4367 3 жыл бұрын
Ive Got Track Dyslexia so happy ive got the strive!!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@drejec1
@drejec1 3 жыл бұрын
Care to share the zeb compression/rebound settings? Above/below recommended psi?
@danstokes7836
@danstokes7836 3 жыл бұрын
Mean video bro, which bike did you find climbs the best? Still undecided 🤔
@Fever1984
@Fever1984 3 жыл бұрын
The spectral has to be the best bike I have ever ridden. Did you say you run a 170mm Zeb? Doesn't that alter the geometry? Also is it the 29er?
@jorgepascual6376
@jorgepascual6376 3 жыл бұрын
Canyon spectral CF: Well, congratulations on the video, I get this bike in August, I measure 1.82 and 84 inseam, canyon advises me an M, how do you see it? Thanks in advance
@maffin2917
@maffin2917 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting insight Video. Thank you. Sounds Like you need a Strive Prototype with updated Geo. Isnt Canyon working with you together when it comes to designing new Race Bikes? Cheers
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
I’m only new to the team, excited to work with them this year hopefully though!
@maffin2917
@maffin2917 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ I wish you the very best for the Season. also I wish I could corner half your speed :D Youre riding is very impressive, Good luck.
@evanblackwell3920
@evanblackwell3920 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think your point about riding on a track you don't know vs. riding one you're very familiar with is really insightful. Like most good insights, it sounds really simple when explained, but yet I've never heard anyone point it before! I am curious though - with 180mm forks on both bikes the Spectral must be really slack, maybe below 63 degrees (?). Do you think the Spectral could be faster with either a shorter fork (160-170) or an angleset to bring the head angle back to 64-64.5?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was super important for Me. I noticed this at my first world enduro in 2016. I had my bike setup for park laps super stiff and I couldn’t hang on for a 15 minute stage. Yeah it definitely works better with the shorter travel, but I really want the 180 fork for the gnarly runs, this suits the strive better
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
And the head angle on spectral with that fork is 63.1
@m4tt12
@m4tt12 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, ever had any issues with your BITS tool ejecting? Had mine about 6 months and it's started to self eject during rides. Luckily I found it both times!
@juliandlamb
@juliandlamb 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to commit to a particular bike for race rules/supplier/sponsors or is it just a matter of picking one to develop and master?
@jordanrosas9178
@jordanrosas9178 3 жыл бұрын
nice review Jack much appreciated, just one thing, what size Spectral did you ride and what's your height? im 6ft and in-between sizes would be good to know your thoughts on fitment
@sebastiannavarrete2718
@sebastiannavarrete2718 3 жыл бұрын
Jack is 6 ft 4 but rides an L
@joeblack4026
@joeblack4026 3 жыл бұрын
spectral all the way, you can make it 65mm stroke in the rear, the frame will take it, its around162mm + -
@Manvswild11
@Manvswild11 3 жыл бұрын
Mad dog, have ya tried the spectral in a M with a touch longer stem? Like 45 or 50? Would give you the reach of the strive and would be as easy to weight the front and only 8mm shorter wheelbase than the strive.. I reckon the spectral feels better in the fast chunk because of head angle not just longer wheelbase, you don’t get as hung up with a slacker head angle as it lets the fork push back from impacts a lot smoother rather than “catching” if that makes sense. Peace out. Rooter
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Nah have not tried that. I think it’s just too small. The strive is already a little on the small side for Me 😅
@Manvswild11
@Manvswild11 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ fair enough ledge, I suppose ya know what you’re on about. Good luck for the season ahead 🙏
@stak5074
@stak5074 3 жыл бұрын
hi, do you consider using a coil shock for spectral ? it supposed to be more supple
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it. Dimitri uses one in his spectral and loves it! Something else I have to try next test session.
@leviwilliams4961
@leviwilliams4961 3 жыл бұрын
was this filmed before you built that green strive
@harrybryant3660
@harrybryant3660 3 жыл бұрын
Yo Jack what’s your handle bar height you are running on both bikes? Cheers
@hannesnohl8627
@hannesnohl8627 3 жыл бұрын
A Zeb on a Bike, which used to be coming with a pike😂
@meesterbingbong5641
@meesterbingbong5641 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like although the strive feels more clunky it'll probably more practical than the spectral. I feel like 6 hours on some large travel cushion is much more do-able than hopping around the track on a bike that's punching up. just my thinking
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure! If the tracks are super smooth though 6 hours on the spectral will be less tiresome then slogging the strive!
@meesterbingbong5641
@meesterbingbong5641 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ good point! I hope you do get to race the spectral this season tho that would be sick to watch!!
@Woschti8203
@Woschti8203 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack, what's your stroke size of your damper at the spectral? Good luck for the EWS
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mate, shock size is 230mm and stroke 60mm
@damonbevan4401
@damonbevan4401 3 жыл бұрын
Has this been Stevo approved ?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
😂this has indeed been stamped with the scuba steveee tick of approval
@leonunes9788
@leonunes9788 3 жыл бұрын
This was a si
@tougemonster86
@tougemonster86 Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Are you riding different sizes or something? The spectral has a shorter wheel base than the strive by quite a bit in the website specs ?
@elias.d4164
@elias.d4164 3 жыл бұрын
What fork setup do you ride, PSI-LSC-HSC-REBOUND? Weight?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Strive setup Morzine (inc Zermatt) Counted first click zero from closed Fork - Hsc 3 Lsc 15 Reb 6 3 tokens 72 psi
@AdamBakerMTB
@AdamBakerMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Would you say you run a fast or slow rebound setup?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty fast, 6 clicks in the front, 4 clicks in the rear
@mudskipper3650
@mudskipper3650 2 жыл бұрын
How did the coil go on your mate's Spectral? 7:15
@filippopassani2860
@filippopassani2860 3 жыл бұрын
some big lez vibes here, yeah strive for european trails could u ride both in different ews locations during the seasone ?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha big lez is the shit. Yeah it is a possibility, but I don't want to be messing around with that.
@filippopassani2860
@filippopassani2860 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ ahah hell ya mate thats what sassy would do too
@blueage1560
@blueage1560 3 жыл бұрын
You've done a lot of science here and testing, but what does Steveooo think you should be riding?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Mate this has indeed got the scuba steevee tick of approval so we are all good to go!
@Eltoca21
@Eltoca21 3 жыл бұрын
Do the enduro series rules not allow you to alternate between the two bikes depending on the course/track you're on?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can, really want to make a choice and stick with one bike though. It gets messy trying to swap bikes each race
@Happy_Biker
@Happy_Biker 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ Can you switch bikes between stages of a race, or just between races? (Thought you had to stick with one throughout any one race...)
@Ingrimmsch91
@Ingrimmsch91 3 жыл бұрын
What speak against the canyon torque??
@db1ktool105
@db1ktool105 3 жыл бұрын
Do you actually use the shapeshifter?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I forgot to mention that in the video, I use it on flat stages or climbs in stages. If I raced the spectral though I would of had a rear lock out switch on it.
@jayesh5131
@jayesh5131 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to ask you da same! 👍
@Trailz6of7
@Trailz6of7 2 жыл бұрын
What frame size you riding?
@aidanhope6625
@aidanhope6625 3 жыл бұрын
Right on man, us spectral riders gotta stick together
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@tomgloster5406
@tomgloster5406 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if youve answered it yet, but what happened to the green strive in the other video?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Left that bike at home. Kind of thought I was racing the spectral, but now that I’m more comfy with the strive on tracks over here we are building up a new green and grey one for the first EWS
@tomgloster5406
@tomgloster5406 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ sick
@andresfelipesaavedra2713
@andresfelipesaavedra2713 3 жыл бұрын
Man do you prefer speccy pike or zeb?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
It feels a lot better with the pike as this is what it’s designed for. Or if you just run a lower travel Zeb, I would have to play around with angle sets for the 180 set up.
@eoinbradley89
@eoinbradley89 3 жыл бұрын
What bar width are you using?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
760mm on the enduro bike
@AyoKano
@AyoKano 2 жыл бұрын
People sleeping on the fact that steveo actually decides on the content and what bikes and underwear is allowed...
@exhibitD79
@exhibitD79 3 жыл бұрын
Jack - your strive has a spacer under the head tube to increase head angle (presume this is the main purpose) - what was the target or new H/A you achieved?
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
With spacer and 180 fork I’ve got just over 64 degrees
@exhibitD79
@exhibitD79 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ thanks man! I'm currently rocking a 2016 Strive and thinking of doing a mod like this.
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@exhibitD79 You could run offset bushes in the rear if your bars are already high enough. Will drop the bb though.
@exhibitD79
@exhibitD79 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ that..... is a very interesting idea. I will look into this for sure
@MrRefreshinglygood
@MrRefreshinglygood 3 жыл бұрын
not San Remo Central Coast??
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha nahhhhh
@christopherkahler6742
@christopherkahler6742 3 жыл бұрын
Mate could we have the names of those trails, they look really cool!
@moimoitv_
@moimoitv_ 3 жыл бұрын
first one was free ride, and last one anti gravity. I will ask My buddy about the second one and put it in the description
@christopherkahler6742
@christopherkahler6742 3 жыл бұрын
@@moimoitv_ thanks dude
@andrearosotti8925
@andrearosotti8925 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherkahler6742 i'm interested too
@cristobalmunoz9222
@cristobalmunoz9222 3 жыл бұрын
So to a on to check bike thes. Canyon Spectral vs Canyon Strive in the so to testing in so to fas reces tos track in thes terrens co yuor goods amist in so chure film sessions 🗣️🤟🏻yyaaSicke Saluds of Chile 🇨🇱 enjoy video good lucky 🍀 🍀
@Simon-Simon-Simon
@Simon-Simon-Simon 3 жыл бұрын
may be the strive is due a updated design :) just hit up sram you want new internals :)
@exhibitD79
@exhibitD79 3 жыл бұрын
So far just about every pro rider is adding a spacer to increase H/A
@jayesh5131
@jayesh5131 3 жыл бұрын
@@exhibitD79 Bro what's H/A?
@Simon-Simon-Simon
@Simon-Simon-Simon 3 жыл бұрын
@@exhibitD79 Troy is on new blackbox internals and rear shock
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