STOP Being afraid of Your Tires

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CanyonChasers

CanyonChasers

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@pabloaguilar4871
@pabloaguilar4871 4 ай бұрын
People really miss the point of this video with comments like “I’m more worried about gravel, grass clippings, potholes, etc” as if they can control those things. This video is for people who care enough about riding to find every advantage they can to stay on two wheels as they carve through turns. This is not a video about how to fill potholes. It’s about maximizing your tires for a better ride, and saving money, and maybe a life, in the process
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 4 ай бұрын
My friend! I am pinning this comment! Thank you!!
@jossy7014
@jossy7014 4 күн бұрын
My tyres feel too hard
@JCintheBCC
@JCintheBCC 10 ай бұрын
My dad used to say that he'd ride a bad bike with good tires before a good bike with bad tires. Thanks for the video!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Your dad had a lot of wise things to say about this kind of thing!
@46rrodriguez
@46rrodriguez 10 ай бұрын
yea but if he had bad brakes he would be screwed anyway :)
@s39020
@s39020 10 ай бұрын
💯
@chinarjadhav4061
@chinarjadhav4061 10 ай бұрын
​@@46rrodriguez😂
@kwakithailand
@kwakithailand 10 ай бұрын
​@@46rrodriguezYeah, the best brakes are nothing without good tires anyway.
@chuckkelley5894
@chuckkelley5894 10 ай бұрын
I/we appreciate your style of presentation. No hype, no fluff, no preaching. Just solid information given in a tone that keeps things calm.
@PP-wz7mp
@PP-wz7mp 10 ай бұрын
Utter bullshit....suspension is a part that he didn't mention...
@chuckkelley5894
@chuckkelley5894 10 ай бұрын
@@PP-wz7mp yes he mentioned it through trail braking and back braking techniques without call too much specifically about it by name. But, since you’re already aware of you didn’t need additional schooling.
@TTGTanner
@TTGTanner 9 ай бұрын
We?
@chuckkelley5894
@chuckkelley5894 9 ай бұрын
@@TTGTanner We, the thoughtful, respectful, intelligent people who appreciate what it takes to produce good content in interesting ways.
@remyfrank2
@remyfrank2 7 ай бұрын
@@PP-wz7mp he’s produced many videos on suspension too. Great channel sharing a broad and detailed range of techniques, products and specs to consider. 🤓
@apetsel
@apetsel 10 ай бұрын
I was blown away when I first saw that Tech Talk clip where Simon said race slicks were 10x harder than street tires. Made perfect sense when explained, but it was just one of those things I had never thought about.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
He first said it during some free-practice and I was so excited someone else said it so I could quote it. I quickly took note so I could find it again. I was pretty delighted when he did the tech talk.
@DarR1299
@DarR1299 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers what's the link to this clip please?
@chuckkelley5894
@chuckkelley5894 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! I seriously thought it was the opposite and wondered why on some bikes I could never get it right.
@AbdullahLodhi-so4mp
@AbdullahLodhi-so4mp 10 ай бұрын
so many people would ride my bike and say it handles really well, when it's actually because I would always have my tires replaced before time. It can be expensive but it gives you so much confidence on the road.
@krazykittyharleygal
@krazykittyharleygal 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@krazykittyharleygal
@krazykittyharleygal 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy 10 ай бұрын
I need new tires every 8-10 months. I don't wanna replace them "early."
@raymadani270
@raymadani270 10 ай бұрын
I do the same. I replace them while the still have a couple of thousands kilometers or more left
@Ukmongoose3
@Ukmongoose3 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. I try to accelerate hardest around corners to keep wear even.
@SigmaSheepdog
@SigmaSheepdog 10 ай бұрын
I am no expert, but I have a lot of sport-bike/ road riding experience. and I feel that everything presented in this video is spot on.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@brandonpeavey
@brandonpeavey 10 ай бұрын
I took a two hour ride here in Maine when we had a “warm” day in the mid 40s just a couple days ago. I spent just about the whole ride pondering the temperature and grip of my tires in those conditions. This answers all the questions I came up with!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Thats awesome! These things are all clues to help us make better riding decisions!
@denisewildfortune4058
@denisewildfortune4058 8 ай бұрын
LoL. We must have been out on the same day. I live in Central Maine! And yes, I was thinking about my tires too!
@YouMotorcycle
@YouMotorcycle 10 ай бұрын
Making informative motorcycle content that doesn't put people to sleep but has plenty of detail is so hard and your videos always do it so well. Bravo 👌🏻
@Mark-eu4di
@Mark-eu4di 9 ай бұрын
I’m an old guy that went from my big 965 lb Yamaha tourer to a ninja Xr1000 mainly because my wife doesn’t ride anymore and I love to lean into the turns, to me that’s what I love about riding. This was an excellent video,as I remember coming off a wet cloverleaf and my back tire kicked out on an oil snake that I failed to avoid and it definitely woke me up! I was overconfident in my tires at that time and probably riding too fast, I believe about 50 into the curve and this was with my touring bike. So I still lean hard for my age lol but am definitely more cautious. Thanks again for your input!
@Synfulz
@Synfulz 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a Yamaha MT15 here in the Philippines for roaming around. The tires that were on it were off brand and worn. The handling was "greasy". That lasted a week. I replaced with Pirelli Diablo Rosso Sports. What a huge difference. I run them at 32.5 & 36.2 psi.
@shanerobertson6267
@shanerobertson6267 8 ай бұрын
Hi mate love my pirelli sports demons for our old Kats
@Miguel23887
@Miguel23887 7 ай бұрын
I used to have pirelli diablos on my gsxs150 but they wear out rather quickly. Switched to michelin pilot street.
@Eyshuncunt
@Eyshuncunt 4 ай бұрын
What brand of tires does the MT15 come with?
@JochSejoMusic
@JochSejoMusic 10 ай бұрын
I change my tire pressure from ride to ride depending on how cold/hot it is or how the road felt when riding. Usually during Swedish spring I ride with 29/29 psi and as it gets towards summer I increase it to 36/36 psi, but on my other bike "with bigger tires" I have 32/32 during early spring and closer to 40/40 during peak summer. If I'm loading up for travel and not doing much hard braking, I ride with less in front and more in back "32/38 or something" so I still get the same grip in the front when the back gets hotter from accelerating or having more load on the back. usually on my bike riding with 29 psi gets the most grip but the lifetime of the tire is cut shorter and if I do longer slower rides I set a higher 38 psi for a harder and less grippy tire so it lasts longer, because if the ride doesn't call for me to use much grip the tire doesn't need to be grippy enough for a race pace. Or if I ride slower pace during cold spring/autumn I lower the pressure as the tire gets colder otherwise and stiff if I ride the normal summer pressure. I can just feel the tire being deformed and cold after a winter sleep so warming the tires up and learning to feel it through the bike and trough the hands is really nice to have learned that early on, feeling how much grip I have.
@cibsim
@cibsim 13 күн бұрын
Following the air pressure recommended by the manufacturer of your bike is simpler and safer. Period. Take care!
@JochSejoMusic
@JochSejoMusic 13 күн бұрын
​@@cibsim I agree for most of the world but that is only for the summer pressure that is stated on the bike. If you ride during winter the summer pressure will be too hard for any safe riding and therefore you lower the pressure so you increase heat and increase tire grip that is what everyone does if they don't run spiked tires. If I ride 30 psi in the artic circle that is the same pressure grip/heat index as riding summer pressure in italy at 41 psi. You need to take into account which country you ride in, Period. I would instead follow the air pressure recommended on the tire itself and the recommended tire pressures for the country I am in also. if you take a bottle and fill it with 30 psi of artic cirle air and you fly that bottle to italy that bottle will now read as 41 psi. The tire itself will have the same heat/grip index and hardness in both places, simple as that.
@hunczar
@hunczar 10 ай бұрын
after a highside where I broke both bones in forearm, it's trust in my right hand not being too heavy in a turn I have to trust. Elementary mistake sadly. good video.
@krazykittyharleygal
@krazykittyharleygal 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Loved this going to school inside look on tyre composites. Learnt some new words too. I am so wary of my tyres and the road, just for the confidence when in town or city riding. The roads in S.E. UK are pretty bad, but anywhere can get slippery when it begins to rain, particularly if the weather has been dry for a while. So I changed up to Cobra Chrome wet weather tyres for all weather riding. Never skimp on tyres. Thanks so much for this.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
I adore the UK! Your single track roads with passing places sure keep you on your toes. Add in some rain and it gets really exciting!
@slothFPV
@slothFPV 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers sounds like my standard commute! rural uk is beautiful but hazardous for riding
@chrisrader8547
@chrisrader8547 10 ай бұрын
Always believed in good quality rubber. Can’t say I was diligent enough in monitoring my tire pressures when I was young and bombing back roads on a CBR-600F. Now, however, in my second wave of riding, after about a 14 year hiatus, I check pressures and tire condition before every ride; even the short ones.
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. The name of the game is really go easy on the controls. I couldn’t agree more. I keep the same brand on front and rear but for the past 20 or so years I’ve been using a sport touring on the back and a stickier supersport on the front of my CBR1000RR. I have only had the front slip once in my 33 years of riding on a CBR600F4 (not a good feeling) with matching tires. I find correcting from a rear slide (because of harder compound tire) is much easier (and sometimes almost fun) than correcting from a front slide. The reason I go for a harder rear is, lets face it, the 1000s like to chew them fast. I get around 15,000 kilometres (9,000 miles) on the rear with my MICHELIN Road 5 or 6 on my CBR1000RR. POWER GP on the front. I also installed FOBO Bike 2 sensors on metal valve stems that give me the temperature and tire pressure in real time directly on my phone on the Ram Mount. Those sensors are absolutely AMAZING!!! Been running them 4-5 years now. Never failed. I highly recommend them. Temperature & pressure. LIVE. While rolling. Of course also before you leave. 😉
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
That used to be a much more common practice than it is now. I did the same thing for years. You'll be happy to know that some manufacturers are actually doing that by design. Pirelli/Metzelers work really well where we live and I find the front tire wears out at the same rate as the rear.
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers The Michelin Road 5 or 6 dual compound is the longest lasting rear tire I have ever used on my CBR. Before I was using Road 3-4. Of course, if I lived in a super curvy area, I may opt to go with stickier compounds but for a good amount of strait line riding (unfortunately) to get to the curves, the sport touring is still my go to for the rear. On the front, well, that’s where sticky matters. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼
@aluisious
@aluisious 10 ай бұрын
Funny, I only get 4000 miles out of the Road 6 on my Multistrada 1200. We have some rough roads around here, chip sealed pavement.
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 10 ай бұрын
You made me realized I made a mistake with the mileage. It’s 15,000 kms which translate to roughly 9,000 miles. Sorry about that.
@GixxerRider1991
@GixxerRider1991 10 ай бұрын
I just got a set of Michelin Road Classics for my Moto Guzzi V7. I couldn't believe the difference they made compared to the stock Dunlops. The bike holds lines so much better and no longer tracks into every little road imperfection.
@kevindowell6003
@kevindowell6003 10 ай бұрын
The Michelin road classics are great on my Moto Guzzi. I have Michelin Pilots on my BMW. Great handling, great cold weather and wet weather traction. The Pilot’s downside is the siping contributes to wear between blocks on the edges of the tire with a lot of mountain riding
@shaneflutsch2270
@shaneflutsch2270 10 ай бұрын
What blows my mind is how many people seem to be stuck on dunlop lately, i guess with the q series sport tires maybe they've improved, but every dunlop or bridgestone ive had for that has...made a good bike feel bad. Tried different pressures, tried a lot of things. Switched to a pirelli diablo or supercorsa and bam. Bike goes from tracking into every imperfection to feeling more predictable on acceleration and entering corners. Maybe some guys just prefer that jittery, feels every imperfection in the pavement type of experience. Putting down close to 200 horsepower, id rather have something that feels predictable. Shoot, i tried continental race attacks and they lasted longer than my bridgestone and dunlops, but they gripped a bit better leaving the hole. Never had a tire last 5,000 miles + a track day... Those continentals did, somehow. Still cant figure out how but eh. They did. Heard a lot of guys like the michelins and that they last a long time as well. Dad complained about dunlops a long time ago on his sport touring bikes too, not really sure whats up with that. Lots of dunlop complaints with peopls i ride with and know... Maybe tread design or carcass design? Lots of harley guys use dunlops though. Maybe it depends on what a manufacturer specializes in as to whether they make a good tire for your application...or your bike in general. I know michelin continental and pirelli all make good touring and trackday tires. Probably going to stick to those unless i find something or learn something else
@machinedgod
@machinedgod 10 ай бұрын
Deadpan humour is strong in this one 😂 Love to see you back! Right on time, me and the boys are getting all amped up for the season! 💪
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Haha! Thank you!!
@lucelebeau3024
@lucelebeau3024 3 ай бұрын
Been riding for over two decades now but am impressed by what I could learn from your professional advice. Thx.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you!
@llerradish
@llerradish 10 ай бұрын
The Bridgestone s21 is the best street tire I have ever used. Hot or cold these tires have never let me down. I am a fair weather rider, so I can't say how well they perform in wet conditions. The few times I have had to ride on wet roads they seemed to work fine , I just don't ride fast when its wet out. If you do ride a lot in foul weather, Michelin makes some of the best rain tires out where.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Exactly on point.
@mansolo1756
@mansolo1756 10 ай бұрын
I am a Michelin man!
@poireauer6517
@poireauer6517 10 ай бұрын
​@@mansolo1756 How much do you weight , then ? 😅
@paduloso
@paduloso 10 ай бұрын
In 2019 the S22's came out and now recently the S23's, you should try them, you will be surprised about how an already excellent product became even better
@jasonbarber2186
@jasonbarber2186 10 ай бұрын
My ZH2 is getting a new set of S23s this Saturday.
@paddygrant2263
@paddygrant2263 8 ай бұрын
Dude great vid. I've been riding for years and always took what the manufacturer said but never thought about temps in the middle and edge on longer straights. So obvious now. Given me more confidence thank you
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 8 ай бұрын
Right on!
@dingoniner5528
@dingoniner5528 6 ай бұрын
Dude, you make the BEST videos. I just started riding three years ago, and I'll hit 30,000 miles this summer. A great majority of what I've learned about riding in the last three years has come from you. Thanks for the constant enlightenment!
@keithcrispin1368
@keithcrispin1368 10 ай бұрын
Another excellent educational video, keep it up , something we sometimes neglect to do or consider due to our impatience to get on the bike wether for pleasure or work ,cheers Uk 🇬🇧
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Cheers, UK. We love visiting you guys!
@bdrew1111
@bdrew1111 10 ай бұрын
I had my first fall yesterday after a year of riding, I stupidly went through a country lane after a week of heavy rain and I took a bend only to be met with a large wet mud pile, my bike literally disappeared from under me, it was a split second and all grip was gone from under my bike. Ride safe everyone and my advice is always take the safer route even if it takes longer 👍 🏍
@thelensguy6050
@thelensguy6050 10 ай бұрын
I got a second hand bike and had some 2018 Metzler on it, race tech rr , they were barely used but had visible dry cracks on the sides, long story shot I blamed the bike for the lack of confidence I had in turns, but then I changed to new power 5 and BOM! I really love the bike now and I think is paranormal now, that big the difference was.
@Torquematterz
@Torquematterz 10 ай бұрын
Great video, i can attest that just having good tires with the right air pressure and smooth inputs makes a world of a difference. Smooth is fast
@bailephib
@bailephib 10 ай бұрын
HI Dave, An excellent video as ever. Packed full of sense and wisdom. Thank you. On a more general note, I wanted to say thank you for producing all the material you have to date. Working in media myself, I have a pretty good understanding of the number of hours that go into crafting each one from concept to scripting, shot lists to editing. It's a time sink hole. I have watched all your videos more than once and I refer back to them when I'm struggling with an aspect of my riding. They always work and help me to improve. The point I wanted to make is that the work you do matters. It makes a difference. There is a lot of information on how to ride on KZbin, but yours combines knowledge with humility which is rare among your peers. Yours is a channel I have grown to trust since happening upon it a year or so ago and one that I have recommended to many others as the no BS, science based, step by step guides to improving riding. Its evident that you love to ride and to share your experience. I was wondering why you had stopped posting for a while, but am happy and relieved that you are back again and look forward to enjoying and learning from your content into the future, both from the new videos you produce and from the older ones that serve as such a valuable reference for me and I'm sure many other of your subscribers. Keep up the good work.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! This is probably one of the nicest comments I've ever recieved! It does indeed take a long time to make a good video! My wife knows all too well. Haha.
@donstevens8678
@donstevens8678 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏. Much appreciated!!
@alessandro2920
@alessandro2920 10 ай бұрын
This is my first winter on my bike since i started riding in may, i use road 5's and noticed the rear started slipping at almost every corner. Im gonna try these tips and hopefully it will be a big help!
@slawomirkedzierski8524
@slawomirkedzierski8524 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@dinohuntr851
@dinohuntr851 10 ай бұрын
My Honda CB650R is due for new tires and this video is full of good information. Perfect timing!Thanks!!
@richardsprings1414
@richardsprings1414 9 ай бұрын
I ride an adventure bike but I do not are down for off-road I keep the tires pressures the same street or dirt and I like to warm up my tires before I start pushing them and once again you've done an awesome job job
@mikeg6258
@mikeg6258 9 ай бұрын
My goto bike is pre historic guzzi. Fiitted with bt46 tires, in the twisties its an absolute monster.
@janzzen1
@janzzen1 9 ай бұрын
Le mans 850 III. one of the best steering bikes ever.
@mgmg-qr6ec
@mgmg-qr6ec 7 ай бұрын
Another really useful video. Thanks . I was given a piece of advice years ago by a friend's dad. Don't scrimp on tires and brakes. One stops you. The other holds you to the road while you stop. (Correct usage allowing)
@tonnynijholt7090
@tonnynijholt7090 7 ай бұрын
What a informative video! Just one thing I would like to add (since you didn’t really spoke it out) is that you always check pressure with cold tires! Warm air expands so warm tires will read higher pressures as you said already.
@carver7689
@carver7689 9 ай бұрын
I recently had a set of Dunlop Mutants installed. It's my first set of dual-compound tires and I'm really impressed. The bike tips-in so easily and feels so sure-footed in curves that it makes me wonder why I didn't try these tires earlier.
@Cosmonaut_Neko
@Cosmonaut_Neko 10 ай бұрын
2 years ago I had a low speed tip over from what I’m sure were cold tires on a fairly cold day. I had just rounded my block to a stop sign where I then turned right. When I turned, I did so with my bike tipped fairly low and I accelerated a bit harder than I normally would. As I did so I felt the rear tire wash out making me and my bike do a 180 laying on the ground. Edit: Cold tires along with my abrupt input.
@stevecam724
@stevecam724 6 ай бұрын
I own a 2014 Monster, purchased new and it was fitted with Pirelli Diablo Rosso II. On about 5 occasions the rear tyre lost tractionwithout warn AND without feeling like oil. I tried to work with them but the multi compound sidewalls were chilling. Swapped the rear to a Bridgestone and have love the feedback I get. Also the Pirelli front is fantastic, I've never doubted the tyre or had any reason to. Crazy how the same brand could be so different front to rear (I tried different pressures and suspension setting but nothing improved it).
@HeldIntegral
@HeldIntegral 10 ай бұрын
It's not the tires im worried about. It's the Shitty roads my tax dollars don't seem to be maintaining
@chitwoodsworld
@chitwoodsworld 8 ай бұрын
You must live in Maine! 😂
@oliverv305
@oliverv305 8 ай бұрын
Got the exact same problem in the UK regarding potholes
@haggishighways
@haggishighways 8 ай бұрын
​​@@oliverv305 True mate, sucks here. Can't trust corners cos you can assume there's an Olympic pool sized pothole waiting on you
@johnadams7402
@johnadams7402 8 ай бұрын
Same for Colorado. Roads just suck.
@blueprince2330
@blueprince2330 7 ай бұрын
Pennsylvania has entered the chat...
@WJRobbins125
@WJRobbins125 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff! Was excited to see a new Canyon Chasers video. :)
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@potatotr33
@potatotr33 10 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on finding the right tire pressure for street tires for how you ride? Is it just keep lowering pressure until you get to 120-150F? What if i do a bunch of highway before i get to the mountains? Should i keep them hot on thr highway or just warm on the highway?
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea!
@Ramon51650
@Ramon51650 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers ::: That's a question worth investigating. I live in a dense city and I have to do straight up riding before getting to the "ride". I missed you as much as a bag of sea salt potato chips, so you know you've been missed!
@andybakewell1286
@andybakewell1286 2 ай бұрын
Great video. My tyres don’t match. My tyres aren’t new. I haven’t checked the pressures recently. It’s the simple stuff we need reminding about! Thankyou
@Rvkor
@Rvkor 10 ай бұрын
Always top quality content! Always makes me learn stuff. Everytime I go out to ride which is weekends I change my tire pressure. On weekdays its the standard set for the R3 which is 29f - 36r, but when I go out to ride i change it to for the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III i Found 27f to be best and 34r gives me all the confidence. But when i switched to Shinko, it would be -3 which is 26f and 33r. Setting it before going out to ride the twisties is really confidence inspiring.
@draloha296
@draloha296 10 ай бұрын
Thx for sharing, I'm getting my first bike (I am 50 yo). Your teaching helps me a lot.
@rolfbiber3503
@rolfbiber3503 9 ай бұрын
Great video, my congrats! You have really every important detail in your content. Very very professionally produced, first class, never seen that before. Here a former rubber and suspension engineer, 15 years Super Bike racer on the similar brand, motor bike coach, 47y of sportive motor bike riding. I check the pressure every time in the morning - it makes the difference!
@StreetMotoZ
@StreetMotoZ 5 ай бұрын
Switching my stock Dunlop Sportmax 2's with Michelin GP2s in my Ninja 650 to get ready for my first track day. I low sided on the Sportmax2's when trying to drag a knee in a parking lot and do not trust them for any knee dragging nor quick cornering. Then I found out those are not meant for the track only the street. Just subscribed!
@LNtm55
@LNtm55 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for yet another straightforward and "to-the-point" explanation. 56 years old - got my drivers licens for MC 3 years ago. All the good input from your site, have provided me with much more than I could have imagined. Every little piece of advise about being proactive, being prepared, being calm has been a great part of my 3 seasons on 2 wheels so far. Keep doing your great, well explained and beautifully produced instructions. I bet others in my position see it worth while too. 👍
@Milaox05
@Milaox05 10 ай бұрын
I slipped in a corner and broke my collarbone, left with a small fear for corners but I'm improving again🥰 thanks for the video, it really helped to ease my fear!
@Bumbaclot213
@Bumbaclot213 10 ай бұрын
I was taking a right hand corner at just above 20mph (around December, no ice or snow), a few years ago - my rear whipped out which felt like 30 degrees, sent me into a violent tank-slapper, which made me mentally prepared that I might fall from my bike! Rolled off the throttle and pulled the clutch in and the bike settled. Was nervous about cornering for a few months after. I’m guessing there was diesel or oil on the that part of the road perhaps
@RTPOV
@RTPOV 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Its something I still struggle with. I know the bike/tires are far more than capable than I am, but something inside me always leaves doubt
@ricalava7747
@ricalava7747 8 ай бұрын
Better safe than sorry, the road is not a Race track, in this way you have margin in case something unexpected happens
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 8 ай бұрын
It's okay to have doubts - but also, it's good to set yourself up for success to quell as many doubts as we can.
@RTPOV
@RTPOV 8 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers I'm going to do some advanced road training and some track training to level up my riding ability. Thanks for taking time to reply! Enjoy the videos!
@Pissenberg
@Pissenberg 7 ай бұрын
I just purchased my 5th bike . I learned more from this video in the short time & will now Oder new tires. Thank you
@Pissenberg
@Pissenberg 7 ай бұрын
Ps I’m 79 & this bigger than I wanted. Now I’m more determined to ride it safely. Age is just a number.
@NPurvis7622
@NPurvis7622 10 ай бұрын
Didn't have an issue with my front tire, bike I bought used didn't have much on it, was a 2015 honda cb500f. Replaced that rear with a Michelin road 4, and man, those road tires from michelin are worth every penny. Idk how big a difference changing the front would have made, but having that tire in the rain was all the confidence needed. I had my rear slip out half a second, recovered perfectly, that's the trust your tire you need. The bike wants to go straight, spend more on the thing that CONNECTS YOU to the ground. Awesome video topic. I love the emphasis on proper PSI and pressure in general.
@rebman5150
@rebman5150 10 ай бұрын
At 12:45 when you make the comparison "to verify if the tires are listening" is an excellent metaphor. I like that. Also, the wide shot of the three of you on the canyon road; do you usually ride at a sane pace like that? I have a Z900 which is capable of things I can't do, but I do like a quick pace sometimes. Thanks for the video.
@WimHovens
@WimHovens 8 ай бұрын
I came off on a dark stormy night, riding on a fairly dodgy road surface and came off on what is barely a corner. The surface of the road had about a meter wide, 5-7 meter long tar bleed on it, that when wet was like riding on diesel. I slid down the center of my lane about the distance or three power poles. and to give you an idea of just how slippery the surface along that section was, I didn't have a single scuff on any of my gear, just one small nick where my elbow hit the ground. Since then I've been struggling to get confidence up again with cornering, but going back to basics from your series of videos helps a lot! :)
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 8 ай бұрын
It's hard to come back from something like that, but you got this!
@StevePhillips76
@StevePhillips76 10 ай бұрын
Great video, I ride in the PNW, with cool, wet roads most of the time I run a softer tire. It has helped my confidence in corners, this particular type of tire has been reported to me to not hold up well in the heat and the road conditions of the the SW. Quality tires area a great starting point for good traction, again great video! Thank you!
@CornDogShaun
@CornDogShaun 6 ай бұрын
my friend sent me this video after i dropped my bike leaving my garage turning on icy leaves. very calm and informative, thank you.
@caoimhin7122
@caoimhin7122 8 ай бұрын
Could you possibly do a short video on how to properly set the tire pressure? Like when to do it, how to do it, etc.? There seems to be a lot of confusion out there about that, whether we are talking about motorcycle tires or car tires. I used to work for a motorcycle tire manufacturer and you would not believe how many phone calls and e-mails we got about that.
@LeeVeness
@LeeVeness 4 ай бұрын
I agree, but just properly checking the TP that you are preparing to ride, is not enough, as you can pickup nails and cuts within a few miles after starting your trip
@user-vf7gp1hr9c
@user-vf7gp1hr9c 3 ай бұрын
@@LeeVeness What does this even mean? How does the possibility of picking up nails and cuts within a few miles after starting your trip have anything to do with properly checking the TP before preparing to ride? You say it's 'not enough'. What specific action(s) am I supposed to take before preparing to ride to deal with the possibility of these rogue nails and cuts that I might pickup within a few miles of starting my trip? How is that not a possibility at any time in the trip? Or not more likely when the tire is warm later in the trip than when it is cold early in the trip and will likely repel debris rather than conform to it? I've had a flat halfway through an 800 mile straight through trip. Now the hole was probably there before because my pressure had been constantly going low over the few months prior. If you mean you should check your tire for nails and cuts prior to starting a trip (and at the same time as you check pressure (logically speaking)), it would make sense, mostly because you could have picked these things up on your last trip. Even so, unless you're having unexplained pressure drops, you're probably more safe than not. But saying just checking you're pressure (properly) is 'not enough' because some future possibility of tire damage that you can't do anything about before you encounter the possibility is nonsense. It comes off like you have some special knowledge that no one else knows. If that's the case, why wouldn't you share and explain what things we need to do that will 'be enough'? Unless I'm unlearned that some magical time in the first few miles of my trip makes me susceptible to picking up nails and cuts and that I'm not susceptible to that at all times (and the magical prior action(s) I need to take that will prevent it, even though it is either chance or an in moment action that would actually prevent it) 🤷
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 10 ай бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you. For me, looking back to my racing days (basically all of the 80’s, working up to the Australian Superbike Series). Initially, I didn’t know a lot about tyres, I simply had faith in how my team set the bike up purely based on feedback. In the initial category I raced in was purely production 250 cc, where you raced on street legal tyres. Brands etc didn’t mean anything to me. I just focused on getting the quickest lap times as I could possibly achieve. Looking back I also was somewhat blind that when starting out I’d use a set well past when they should’ve been replaced. Today, perhaps it’s a mental thing as I pay more attention to this and perhaps if I did back then I possibly wouldn’t have been as quick as I wouldn’t have had that blind faith.
@lucianoromero777
@lucianoromero777 6 ай бұрын
I read the book 📖 you recommended for track and street lessons, made me such a more confident rider
@TheElectek
@TheElectek 6 ай бұрын
What's the book?
@911aircooled5
@911aircooled5 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant upload and summary. Thank You. Been riding for 45years and been trying to explain all of this to other riders. This just puts it all in a 'nut shell'. Will point people to your vlog. Cheers Tyre pressure monitors are a god send, have them on both my bike and track car, helps so much, and I know when to push or back off.
@dcccharles4569
@dcccharles4569 10 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial on tires! I always strive to remind myself to exercise caution when taking turns and going around curves. I can't say how many times this has saved me because it allowed me to make corrections before a mishap could happen. Your video reassures me that I have been doing the right thing. I have practiced caution with turning and cornering even with good tires and correct tire pressure under what others may perceive as optimum road conditions for tire grip. Overconfidence in turns and cornering... kills. Listening to what your bike and tires are telling allows you more control and time to make necessary corrections when required.
@cristi8183
@cristi8183 10 ай бұрын
7:46 When F1 cars still sounded great with the V10 engines. Great video! Subscribed to your channel. Greetings from Romania. 🤘🏻
@dougiep2769
@dougiep2769 10 ай бұрын
Wish we had the rubber you guys have today on my rg 500. Tip to folks. If you start power sliding Don’t let off the throttle you will high side and get launched
@DerekBakerArt
@DerekBakerArt 8 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation about importance’s of the riders thinking and input to gain confidence. I shall be incorporating this into my delivery of training to instructors and students. Thank you.
@stephenscott6570
@stephenscott6570 6 ай бұрын
I have found that when riding on public roads, if I ride around curves at the recommended speed limit, or say no more than 5mph over it, I almost never lean more than 20-25 degrees and with that, unless there is sand, rocks or ice or some liquids, the chance of having the bike slide out is nil. Save the need to lean at 45 degrees and higher for the track.
@niallwildwoode7373
@niallwildwoode7373 5 ай бұрын
I've done sub 1000 miles on my new RE Classic350, on their OEM Ceat tyres. Whilst they seemed ok initially, I noticed occasional sway or wobble recently. I don't know if it's me, the tyres or the bike. But our roads in my part of the UK are pretty shite. Patched, sometimes potholed, gravel banks, cambered by heavy trucks and tractors, I sort of figured that these Ceats are general purpose and not configured to my riding circumstances. So I'm going to have to stump up for a set of stickier, higher rubber %, trail/road hybrids to see how it changes my riding experience.
@Ian-ny6ux
@Ian-ny6ux 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the lesson man. We appreciate it! Ride safely out there!
@jamison7soccer
@jamison7soccer 2 ай бұрын
The amount of lives that this channel has saved is probably a lot! Great content!
@SaratheSR500Yamaha
@SaratheSR500Yamaha 9 ай бұрын
In winter here in NZ, especially after dark, black ice and a wet road look pretty much the same. I learned to blip the throttle a little from time to time. Rear wheel spin indicates black ice, in which case you can't use the brakes and even engine braking will break loose the rear tire. Cornering can only be very slow, steering with no lean with the bars like a kids trike. The grippiest tires you can buy make very little difference.
@LucaSuper7
@LucaSuper7 10 ай бұрын
What you explained is what many riders know but the question is whether they put it in practice. I plause your insistence that these very basic principles should always be followed. Like everyone, there were times when I went riding without checking tire pressure and I was always riding with the worry of the pressure being wrong. When at some point I checked the pressure, most of the time it was spot on but there were times when it was very wrong.
@distancejunkiemonkey4491
@distancejunkiemonkey4491 9 ай бұрын
Michelin Road 6 GT, set at Suzuki PSI spec. 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250SA, Dale Walker stage 2 tune. I ride everyday to work, with weekends for fun, solo and two up. Incredible grip on dry and wet. Reducing air pressure for the street is a fallacy, you’ll never get the tire so hot on the road to matter, like you would on a track. High quality road tires will have very little difference is “softness, from cold to warm, in normal weather.
@guzzirider_la5377
@guzzirider_la5377 10 ай бұрын
Learned a great deal in this video Dave. Thank you for taking the time to educate us.
@Treeclimbingexpert
@Treeclimbingexpert 10 ай бұрын
I am learning on a DRZ 400S. It has non-DOT bias ply tires now rated for 81 mph. I have been super scared to lean the bike over. I ordered some Anakee wilds. Hopefully those will be better they are radials at least and DOT approved.
@mattevans5812
@mattevans5812 8 ай бұрын
A lot of great points. The tires I question the most are adventure and dual sport tires. I accept the compromise if the ride I set out on is mixed surfaces but if my days ride is just pavement I hate the compromise. I'd rather have multiple small bikes with an assortment of tires suitable for different trips than one big powerful adventure bike with compromise tires that suck on the road, in the dirt or in both places. The motorcycle math tells me I need more bikes. Have to trust the math.
@dylannolan7454
@dylannolan7454 10 ай бұрын
New street rider, appreciate the info. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
@philipriggall5271
@philipriggall5271 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, very informative. I’m in the UK and ride most days, and the weather this winter has been absolutely terrible. I’m very conscious of my tyres, check pressures regularly, and am really looking forward to spring and summer when I can chuck the bike around a bit more!
@Bumbaclot213
@Bumbaclot213 10 ай бұрын
I live in the UK also - had my rear snake out on me from a set of lights a few days ago!
@philipriggall5271
@philipriggall5271 10 ай бұрын
@@Bumbaclot213 😬
@macdaddy258
@macdaddy258 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for writing back, this ADV bike and corner speed deal has me skeptical, obviously on my thousand XR I’m regularly in the mid 40’s on Michelin road 5’s on 17’s but I’m not even interested in low siding or worse on the 1290. I’ve had it a month, and put 200 miles on it, half of which are tight twisties. I guess I wanna to see if you’ve heard a number in your travels on the kind of lean angle the anakee can take, especially on a 21” front. The tires are definitely comfortable in the high 30 degree angle range…
@leftymadrid
@leftymadrid 10 ай бұрын
You know it's amazing how the pressure fluctuates in the winter and summer! I always check ✅ for the correct pressure. And a good set of Michelin Road 's makes me feel very secure in the Twisties!
@opichocal
@opichocal 10 ай бұрын
I’m double dark side on my Goldwing and love it! That really gets most riders worked up.
@petelyden8193
@petelyden8193 10 ай бұрын
Very informative, thank you. Can you tell me why a lot of tyre manufacturers cut tread on the front tyre that forces water into the centre of the tyre and thus promotes aquaplaning? If you look at the front tyre from the front, the tread is cut from the centre down and out, then as the contact patch (effectively) moves up the tyre, the water is channelled to the centre of the tyre!
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 10 ай бұрын
My GSXR750 on Pirellis sticks like a gecko, but I'm always afraid to explore the limit of them. Hopefully a track day at Brainerd will help me talk to it more directly. I try to leave a 30% overhead for safety on the road. Lots of debris and unpredictability!
@michelveit8238
@michelveit8238 10 ай бұрын
I always really soft tires on my bikes. I started on a super Moto with scrambler tires, then switched to a small ADV, and now to a 1200GS. The all always had some 70/30 Tires on them, which were really soft, so soft in fact, they all even carried M+S markings and were legal as winter tires here in Germany. They all felt great to me, with the Pirelli Scorpion STR being the best tire I have ever ridden. They allowed me to take long rides in the alps and I never had any problems riding in colder weather like 0-3°C. Fast forward to Spring last year, and I find myself on a Project at work, that requires me to drive to another work location about 400km from my home once a month and stay there for a week. This was also when I reached the limit of what I am comfortable with when it comes to tire wear. So I made the decision, that I wanted to make some of those trips with my GS, and I would take a dedicated Street touring tire this time, so it has more longevity for these longer trips. They are quite a bit harder then the tires I ran usually, and naturally do not have M+S markings. In summer, they were fine. And even through a couple of those highway trips, the hard center held up really nicely. But starting with autumn last year, those tires lost all favors with me. Starting in like 5°C, I feel the front tire slip ever so slightly. Not in a way that would cause me to lose traction all together and they are fine in easy corners, but its not helping in feeling confidently in colder weather, which was never an issue for me before. So this winter was the first winter ever, where I had my bike stored in the back of the garage, because I refused to ride it, and even commuted the 30km to my usual work place with my car in 5°C weather. When it gets warmer, I will start commuting with my bike again, and I plan to take a long vacation this summer and tour through southern europe at the Mediterranean in hopes that I can exhaust those tires this year, and have them replaced by a softer pair next autumn/winter.
@KrazyKanucker
@KrazyKanucker 10 ай бұрын
Hmm I just put a Dunlop gpr300 on the rear and have Metzler m7 on the front with lots of tread left. Duke 390 I'm not going to a track but do plan to go to the Smokey mountains. I'll test it out and suspect there's not a huge difference.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
I suspect you already know the right answer. Both are really good tires, but something to consider. Even though that front tire has lots of tread on it, it's been through as many heat cycles, been exposed to as much air, UV, pollutants, etc. Is saving a $100 on a front tire worth the cost of possibly falling down and the possibility of $1,000's in damages?
@The63chicky
@The63chicky 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers are you saying they are too dissimilar tyres, or that one should always change both tyres at the same time? So many differing opinions on that out there...cheers :)
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 5 ай бұрын
Nice presentation. The suggested tyre pressure applies in working temperature? Ie. 36PSI in 70C? How lower should it be when we check pressure in cold tyres?
@levibedggood8700
@levibedggood8700 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. I don't go cheap with my bike and I sort of know the limits but with corners and leaning I'm scared to test them as I don't want to hurt my bike, she's my baby. I can heal she can't. It's not confidence I need as I have that, it's a second bike with no attachment that I can practice on. I like to lean but when I lean big I'm looking for any sign of slipping, messing with my head lol. Thanks again
@nazar5489
@nazar5489 10 ай бұрын
I think "the correct tire pressure" is a very broad understanding. If you compare the bike manual, tire manufacturer specs and all the rider recommendations for a particular bike you get like a 100 different results.
@Thumpermad
@Thumpermad 8 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation that makes a whole lot of sense thanks Man
@RideWithTheWolf
@RideWithTheWolf 8 ай бұрын
I don't normally use my front brake in a corner. I'll try to do it more, but there is the complications of the throttle and the front brake on the same control. I've also had the front tire slide or wash out when you don't want it to.
@caioo82
@caioo82 10 ай бұрын
That’s a great video!! My bike, a 1250GS, when using engine brake, already slows pretty well, will try applying the technique for sure!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
One thing that helps a lot of riders is actually entering corners one gear (or two, depending) than you normally would. This tends to make things smoother, forces more reliance on the front brake. So riders find themselves actually going faster with more precision and control.
@caioo82
@caioo82 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers phenomenal!
@gordonhenderson1708
@gordonhenderson1708 10 ай бұрын
Everyone pay attention. This message was explained very well. Good job! Great video!
@Corkelfinn
@Corkelfinn 10 ай бұрын
paraphrasing, but a great takeaway for me: we need to be having a conversation with our bike, not an argument. smooth, controlled, intentional. not abrupt or aggressive. that’s my new riding motto, conversation not an argument. hell it works for real life too!
@cibsim
@cibsim 13 күн бұрын
Une bonne philosophie. !
@dkarbaev
@dkarbaev 10 ай бұрын
I've got a Kawasaki Z400 with stock tires (thet being something by Dunlop) a couple of years ago, felt a couple of times my rear wheel slipping away on corners or when making a turn over tram rails. During the first service complained about this to my mechanic and he suggested to replace them with tires from Michelin (not an add, just personal experience), and boy, they're definitely gripping far better in my noob opinion.
@KruseProductions
@KruseProductions 10 ай бұрын
Good content truly things that we can tend to overlook during the riding season
@danielkeel9265
@danielkeel9265 10 ай бұрын
My old '91 kwacka has very low pressure specs, but tires have come a long way. My new michelin road 6's have a much higher recommendation. Gues I'll scrub them in at recommended and then experiment.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
That’s a tough one because your bike probably came with bias ply tires. If michelin lists a pressure recommendation for your bike, I’d be inclined to start with that number.
@danielkeel9265
@danielkeel9265 10 ай бұрын
@@CanyonChasers thanks, that might be a good idea!
@seriously5895
@seriously5895 10 ай бұрын
Great video! One minor quibble though- I think that what you described in the beginning of the video as hysteresis is actually "recovery". Hysteresis is the phenomenon where the tire does not return all of the energy it absorbed during deformation when it recovers. That little bit of lost energy is absorbed by the tire as heat. Still it was an informative and useful video.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
I really didn't want to get into it too deeply but if you pause on the definition of hysterisis there's a bit of an easter-egg that says exactly what you are saying in a slightly different way.
@SibrenDVchannel
@SibrenDVchannel 9 ай бұрын
Some ppl crash because they are more trusting the tires then they could handle the situation.. maybe the lack of experience.. too much on the brake or on the gas while leaning etc... Be one with the tire.. Feel what your tire does in the situation and learn from it.. I almost had 2 highsiders last year but i didnt fall.. being on the edge of what your tire can do is a great feeling I learned my tires on a 600.. when mastering, learning and trusting the tires i upped to a gixxer 1000.. my midcornerspeed is as fast as with a 600.. Many people buy a 1000 too early.. and with the lack of experience they end up with crashes etc..
@creedm3040
@creedm3040 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Very informative and well presented. Best!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ianm432
@ianm432 10 ай бұрын
On my first bike, 2018 sv650 i remember hearing everyone complain about the factory Dunlop roadsmart iii tires. I had it in my head that i needed a spicy tire, so the next spring, I got a set of Dunlop q3+. I gave the barely used roadsmart iii to a friend who was riding on worn and weather cracked tires. That season, we rode together several times, and my old tires did everything I did and more as they had great overall behavior. The q3+ were awful in the cold, when cold and especially damp and wore out quickly. I didn't have the skills to use the performance they were capable of.
@bhok1971
@bhok1971 10 ай бұрын
Such a shame because the Roadsmart 3s are great sports touring tires. I actually specifically got these on my SV because mine came with shitty Dunlop Qualifiers from the factory. (Weird, was also a '18)
@ianm432
@ianm432 10 ай бұрын
@@bhok1971 I put Roadsmart iii on my VFR800 that replaced my sv.
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures 10 ай бұрын
So much great information. I love learning from your videos! Great job brother, looking forward to the next one.
@DavidSmith-wy5rb
@DavidSmith-wy5rb 7 ай бұрын
Very useful information David ! One thing I see all too often is incorrect orientation of the front tire Sipes. Most often the tire is mounted so the Sipes are backwards like this (V) [ ^ travel ] with the widest section of the V making contact with the road first traping water in the Sipe and directing it toward the center of the tire rather than (∆)[^] this where the Apex or point of the Sipe contacts the road first directing water out from under the tread and to the sides of the tread which seems alot more logical !
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 7 ай бұрын
Not necessarily - computer aided design and it make look like the sipes are backwards, but always mount the tire according to the little arrow direction on the sidewall.
@DavidSmith-wy5rb
@DavidSmith-wy5rb 7 ай бұрын
I've seen racers with their tires mounted as I suggest as well various motorcycle manufacturers mounting the front tire as I suggest so point of the Sipe (∆) [ ^ rotation] touches the road first just like sipes on the rear tire. The normal action of the front tire is to move water out and to the sides from under it for better traction just like the rear tire does.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 7 ай бұрын
@@DavidSmith-wy5rb I'm sorry, but you are misunderstanding. We don't mount tires based on which way we think the sipes should point. We mount tires based on the direction arrow on the sidewall. Running a front tire backwards, regardless of how the sipes look, could result in a delamination, carcass failure or dangerous handling characteristics. With the advent of computer aided design, it may look like the sipes are backwards, but they may in fact be able to move more water than what we think of as traditional siping direction. TLDR: Ignore the sipes - look at the direction arrow printed on the sidewall.
@RicardoRoberts-bu4pe
@RicardoRoberts-bu4pe 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, this video was so informative as with your other videos that i have watched. Never mind my riding experience over the years i have certainly taken a lot form this. Great Stuff
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@SubStaple
@SubStaple 10 ай бұрын
What a beautiful coherent explanation. Even my thick skull was able to comprehend what was presented. Definitely subscribing and I’ll be coming back to this video for reminders. Thank you brother 🤘
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