The 11 mm Mauser cartridge of the 19th century Sauer stalking rifle

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capandball

capandball

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@wetdedstuocm
@wetdedstuocm 5 жыл бұрын
This was very good, we need more videos like these that shows the whole process.
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 5 жыл бұрын
I make mine out of .45-90 as well and can say -you NAILED the process. Good job!
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 10 ай бұрын
Long ago in my youth, I owned a 71/84 Mauser (the repeater) in what was known as .43 (caliber) or 11mm Mauser. Happily for me and likely with the Lord's influence, I found and purchased the last two boxes of Imperial (Canadian brand) Cartridge Company 11mm Mauser cartridges. Also, Fred Huntington (who founded R. C. B. S.) operated a service for 'obsolete' cartridge loading dies; I purchased 1mm loading dies that fit current reloading machines. It was fun to shoot. I did reload a bit for it, using muzzle loading bullets that were 'close enough' and smokeless powder of some sort (I've forgotten). I sold it all off several years later as I wanted a more recent cartridge and rifle and my finances did not allow me a lot of expenditure. Like many other decisions, I have regretted it.
@RR-gw2uj
@RR-gw2uj 5 жыл бұрын
Engineers: How much lead you want? Mauser: Yes
@Christos1680
@Christos1680 5 жыл бұрын
The reforming and re-purposing was executed Beautifully Great videos as always
@hogsnplanes
@hogsnplanes 5 жыл бұрын
Annealing the end of your brass will make resizing to 11mm easier, the brass will re-harden during resizing. Easier on the die as well. Great video!
@migalito1955
@migalito1955 3 жыл бұрын
I thought only I was persistent or crazy enough to work that hard and with that much attention to detail to do something like this. Nice work!
@Marcos-Osca
@Marcos-Osca 10 ай бұрын
The case for the 11mm Mauser is still available from Bertram brass in the town of Seymour in the state of Victoria, Australia. I saw them for sale on their web site yesterday.
@vasojovanovic7628
@vasojovanovic7628 2 жыл бұрын
Nagyon szep fegyver !
@ThePablo1911
@ThePablo1911 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from San Martín de los Andes, southern Argentina! I love your videos!
@chrisgoshey7388
@chrisgoshey7388 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if prvi partizan in Serbia could be convinced to make a run of 11 mm Mauser casings as they make many other obscure rounds. They are the only place I can go for 6.5x50 mm Arisaka casings.
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. I would also love to buy some 8x50R Mannlicher brass from them.
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 жыл бұрын
@@capandball Sorry. I think I bought the world's supply of that caliber.
@mannequinfukr
@mannequinfukr 5 жыл бұрын
That company is the reason i dont pay $30+ for 303 british
@gresvig2507
@gresvig2507 5 жыл бұрын
They're a great company and I bet they'd be responsive. I got a bunch of 7.7 arisaka from them, and it's perfect. I tried resizing from 30-06, but the factory brass is sooooo much more consistent. It's very hard to make a perfectly consistent resized brass, and accuracy suffered. Having good stuff to reload is a gosend.
@paulvenn4447
@paulvenn4447 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they're obscure cartridge range is probably a large part of their sales (I'd guess anyways).
@ronburling983
@ronburling983 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Mauser Model 1871 and a couple M71/84s I reload for. I avoid Bertram brass, they are very fragile. Great video! Very well done.
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 3 жыл бұрын
That is a labor of love to make those cartridges!
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 6 ай бұрын
While Lee tools are usable for the most part there are much better tools available like RCBS Redding Lyman and others. I suggest you invest in these higher quality reloading tools. It makes a difference. You are in Hungary? They should be available in central European countries. For resizing and or reshaping cases you need a good strong "C" frame press with a toggle lever system. Much easier with more leverage.
@Breakfast_and_Bullets
@Breakfast_and_Bullets 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work! You, sir, are a true craftsman.
@lanceleader2
@lanceleader2 5 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to find 2 full box from the 50's.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
wow thats a lot of work
@otm646
@otm646 5 жыл бұрын
Safety=Censorship Excellent work as always 👌
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 5 жыл бұрын
I love the cap and bore channel , very informative ,accurate, and somehow relaxing with it !.
@kutamsterdam
@kutamsterdam 5 жыл бұрын
The love for blackpowder shooting and the rifles that goes with it is showing Balázs, i greatly enjoy your video's and i thank you for that.
@lenainbelen592
@lenainbelen592 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ive never seen a drawstring trimmer before only mechanical and rotary
@joseedgardotejada100
@joseedgardotejada100 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, historical caliber, thank you
@marcusjones7082
@marcusjones7082 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I LOVE your videos!!! Ever since I discovered your channel (and binge watched everything) I've been dying for another! Keep up the good work :)
@jeffreygraf3358
@jeffreygraf3358 5 жыл бұрын
I have taken your lead and have reloaded in the field (safely of course!) It lets me shoot all day at the range with my odd calibers instead of going home.
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@Bartholomeow141
@Bartholomeow141 5 жыл бұрын
can't say as i have ever seen a case trimmer like that.. kind of ingenious
@terrysiebenneicher1118
@terrysiebenneicher1118 5 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos. You are a Master in crafting. Thankyou!
@fepatton
@fepatton 5 жыл бұрын
06:35 - Never seen that tool before! Very cool. Great video!
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 4 жыл бұрын
This was my goal when I started reloading years ago - to be able to load for any gun, no matter how old or obscure, providing dies available.
@og.excoms
@og.excoms 5 жыл бұрын
Omg dude your voice is so fucking soothing wth. Its literal asmr
@robertmalmgren4640
@robertmalmgren4640 4 жыл бұрын
I was glad to see this video. I have Bertrum brass ( hard to find) some already loaded stuff ( expensive $90)) and bought cases that were turned brass. This looks easier. Star line has 45-90 and 45-100 in stock.
@mkruk2
@mkruk2 3 жыл бұрын
At 8:50, you mention adding a few grains of a filler powder. Can you go into more detail about what material is used and why? None of the load data I have come across mentions use of a filler.
@capandball
@capandball 3 жыл бұрын
I add a few grains of corn wheat. The same we use for making corn meal. It increases the volume of the charge, so no airpsace remains in the case.
@mkruk2
@mkruk2 3 жыл бұрын
@@capandball Thank you very much. I am about to load my first run of 11mm Mauser (blackpowder) and I have found this video to be immensely helpful.
@BcFuTw9jt
@BcFuTw9jt 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to watch process. I load almost exclusively on Dillon machines so this was a great look at the other end of the loading spectrum. Thank you
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
If I haven't said so already, congradulations on 100k subscribers!
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 2 жыл бұрын
Nice cartridge making.
@aserta
@aserta 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on the construction of the cartridge at the rim (you'd probably have to cut a few to see if what i'm saying has merit) you could, in theory (based on how we reform copper pipes, or copper electric eyelets) make a press die that takes that excess in OD and transforms it in thickness. It would be a 3 piece die, IE, one center piece that enters the mouth of the cartridge, and two shells that close on the end, reforming the rim. It can be easily done on your lathe and doesn't need to be big. Here's how: you find a cylinder of mild steel, you slice this down the middle (band saw). Then you place this in the lathe, reduce to a perfect OD again (since you removed some material when you cut it) and then you bore the center line between the two faces with a negative shape of the Mauser 11 mm. It's a bit of blind bore work, but it's nothing that complicated that it can't be done, and because the modified case is a cylinder, you don't need a special shape, neither depth, i'd probably give it only 1 cm of depth. This can be then used to form the cartridges on a simple desktop vise. Just my 2 cents based on how electric copper dies are made, if we can form those with pliers, a case should't pose bigger difficulty. And, ultimately, reduces the operations down to two. The necking (my term) and the reforming of the rim.
@Glrk10
@Glrk10 3 ай бұрын
Hi great channel. I have some 43 Mauser cases but I sold my 71/84 Mauser. Can I modify those 43 Mauser cases to work in my 43 Spanish rolling block?
@SilverSaxon
@SilverSaxon 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you size the case before you trim the length. Regardless, it seems to work for you. I recently acquired a Remington Rolling Block that shoots .43 Spanish. A cartridge very similar to the Mauser cartridge. I'm looking forward to shooting it.
@barefoofDr
@barefoofDr Ай бұрын
I love that case trimer that you have. What is the make and model of it?
@robertnation3077
@robertnation3077 5 жыл бұрын
A interesting well done video. I’m sure you have helped out a lot of shooters with it.
@pepeledog
@pepeledog 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I have never seen anyone manufacture rounds before.
@ryanjames170
@ryanjames170 5 жыл бұрын
pretty neat been thinking about buying a break action 45-70 rifle made by Henry firearms.
@otm646
@otm646 5 жыл бұрын
45-70 is a real versatile treat and a reloaders dream. You won't regret it.
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 5 жыл бұрын
Your lathe is similar to my own Sieg lathe. And your turret press looks familiar too. An issue is that our turret presses aren't really up to the stresses of resizing or swaging. My first handle simply snapped off not long ago while installing a gas cap and sizing. It was a total pain to find a new handle for an obsolete model. I have a new handle and the turret press works again, but I also am waiting on something from Corbin that can handle such tasks without stressing the parts beyond what was imagined.
@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095
@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095 4 жыл бұрын
You can also use 4570, have video on KZbin showing my loading when owned a model 71/84 . With some modifications 4570 works well, and easily obtainable,
@robertfeeley9738
@robertfeeley9738 5 жыл бұрын
Best how to vid I've seen. Very clever production. Thank you
@MrPh30
@MrPh30 5 жыл бұрын
RCC Brass in Texas i think also makes it
@tavish4699
@tavish4699 3 жыл бұрын
i bought a round with a wooden tip that has no caliber markings on it or anything and allways wondered what caliber it was
@mr.stotruppen8724
@mr.stotruppen8724 5 жыл бұрын
What, no paper patch for maximum authenticity?
@adrianandrei9528
@adrianandrei9528 5 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you did not anneal the necks of the cases. Interesting video, as always, Balazs.
@BcFuTw9jt
@BcFuTw9jt 4 жыл бұрын
Not really necessary with a blackpowder cartridge, the pressures are so low compared to smokeless
@Glrk10
@Glrk10 5 жыл бұрын
I used to have a model 71/84 Mauser. I bought brass from a company in Australia. I forget the company’s name. The brass was expensive but worked well and had the tapered rim like the originals.
@tech4pros1
@tech4pros1 5 жыл бұрын
Bertram brass
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
@@tech4pros1 Bertram is not producing nowdays unfortunately.
@Sideshowbobx
@Sideshowbobx 5 жыл бұрын
I guess someone should have checked Grauwolf reloading supplies, they got them in stock - 11.15x60mm R 56€/20. Might be twice of what you pay for piece of 45/90, but takes less effort. Great video therefore!
@miguelburgueno4891
@miguelburgueno4891 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT, as usual with your videos. Many thanks, very illustrative job..!
@mausercal65
@mausercal65 5 жыл бұрын
I always learn something from your videos.
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 5 жыл бұрын
God, I love that rifle. Great video as always.
@maximilianfranz2158
@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, I did not understand exactly, why you were using that long funnel. What would be the difference if you use a normal one?
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 5 жыл бұрын
He writes it helps the powder to settle, I assume if you pour from a short funnel there might be air pockets.
@maximilianfranz2158
@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThePerfectRed Sure, but why exactly behaves the powder different?
@jeffreygraf3358
@jeffreygraf3358 5 жыл бұрын
It 's called a drop tube. It compresses the powder to get more powder in the case, or to settle it better, especially with large grain powders like 1 1/2 G powder.
@maximilianfranz2158
@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygraf3358 thank you
@ar6985
@ar6985 5 жыл бұрын
Can't thank you enough for posting this video. I have two rifles chambered in this caliber and ammo is very hard to come by. Fortunately I have a lots of brass...mainly Old Dominion from an old commercial run of the ammo. But seeing how you can make it from 45-90 is reassuring. I can't wait to go boar hunting with my rifles. Haven't made it yet but maybe this year. One of them is a 1871 military rifle converted to a Jaeger carbine with set triggers and the other is a Haenel single shot sporter. Both are not unlike your stalking rifle by J.P. Sauer. By the way, your boar hunting video with the Sauer is fantastic!
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
The 1871 Mauser is an excellent rifle!
@waltonsellers6941
@waltonsellers6941 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great video. I don't reload myself, but this video makes me want to start!!!!!!!!!
@P61guy61
@P61guy61 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for posting
@joeconrad3828
@joeconrad3828 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work. Thanks
@TubeRadiosRule
@TubeRadiosRule 3 жыл бұрын
I have some 11mm Mauser cases that were made (not by me) from .50-110 cases.
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 5 жыл бұрын
That is part of the fun of some of those obsolete calibers. Do you have trouble getting components in Hungary?
@roadpanzir
@roadpanzir 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation!
@PL-bl8ux
@PL-bl8ux 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, a pleasure to watch a master at work, thanks
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 5 жыл бұрын
isn't that thin rim a problem for you? I saw that you set it to headspace on the shoulder, but I'm wondering about back thrust?
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
That's what the whole thing is about. The tin rim lets the cartridge move in the chamber. That's why I am setting the headspace on the bottom of the cartridge and the shoulder.
@davidgruen7423
@davidgruen7423 3 жыл бұрын
Old west bullet mold makes 25 grams 11 mm Mauser bullet and is double cavity, although it is hefty $130. I put in exactly 5 grams of Swiss 3F gunpowder in my 11 mm, don’t know why you put in less than that.
@33667406
@33667406 3 жыл бұрын
Eres un capo! Tengo un mauser 71 Jägerbüchse.
@totenkopfan6296
@totenkopfan6296 5 жыл бұрын
That is some large cartridge, pretty understandable seeing how black powder behaves
@eaterofpoptarts
@eaterofpoptarts 5 жыл бұрын
This is great, please do more reloading videos!
@malcomsue
@malcomsue 5 жыл бұрын
LOL I thought you had an ink stain on your shirt. Thanks for the videos always enjoyable and educational.
@markdodds1595
@markdodds1595 5 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent !
@freedom-sf4no
@freedom-sf4no 5 жыл бұрын
it would be awesome if you did something with bloke on the range or Britishmuzzleloader...
@chriswerb7482
@chriswerb7482 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, but I have to point out an error. The rifle you show at 1:07 is a Mauser 71/84. That's a rather different animal from a 71 as I'm sure you'll agree.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks...Well done for sure...An a very beautiful Gun,like to see it in action.....!
@KeiPyn24
@KeiPyn24 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. You are really informative and I always enjoy your channel. Thank you and God Bless you. :^)
@Gunner40Five
@Gunner40Five 5 жыл бұрын
Well done. Enjoyed your video
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319 5 жыл бұрын
Capandball, quick question, where do you get your weapons and especially the original ones
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
The story of this rifle is told in the film. I do not own most of the guns, they are lent to me by collectors. The ones I own come from auctions, collectors.
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319 5 жыл бұрын
capandball ah ok also what is your most expensive gun? Mine is the 7.62x51mm NATO and the .22LR rifles
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
I do not own expensive guns. They are all vintage military and hunting guns. Nothing of great value.
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319
@weeklydoseofinsanity3319 5 жыл бұрын
capandball ok well said. I hope we shall speak again and ye shall have something of great value, dear sir.
@notforsaletoday1895
@notforsaletoday1895 5 жыл бұрын
@@capandball Do you have one that you particularly enjoy or value the most? (If not one, 2 or 3 favourites?)
@gresvig2507
@gresvig2507 5 жыл бұрын
Is . . . that a brick ceiling? Or am I seeing things?
@joostvandijck8171
@joostvandijck8171 5 жыл бұрын
Probably his cellar.
@stefannegler2314
@stefannegler2314 5 жыл бұрын
These cartridges looking gorgeous! I have sometime trouble with the 11mm Gras finding a good load. Do you have experience on the Gras?
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
unfortunately I don't have experience with the Gras. The only other 11 mm I know how to load is the Werndl.
@stefannegler2314
@stefannegler2314 5 жыл бұрын
@@capandball maybe a good project if you happen to find one in future ;-). Would be amazing for sure!
@thakurnileshprakashsingh
@thakurnileshprakashsingh 5 жыл бұрын
What was the white stuff you added after the powder and what is it used for ?
@randyrick8019
@randyrick8019 5 жыл бұрын
corn meal filler
@loviedebiasio8864
@loviedebiasio8864 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Know I now what the blue box of cartridges I have is for. I knew it was 11mm german gun
@franciscopeixoto6609
@franciscopeixoto6609 5 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative
@TheNutriarat
@TheNutriarat 5 жыл бұрын
Job well done!! Very nice.
@hamm6035
@hamm6035 5 жыл бұрын
Not fair! We didn't get to go shooting with you. Graet video up to that point. :( Can you cover the .577 Snider or .43 Spanish in much the same way?
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opSveH2OrLWXqK8
@kalaharimine
@kalaharimine 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@TBullCajunbreadmaker
@TBullCajunbreadmaker 4 жыл бұрын
What is the closest caliber to 11 mm?
@drdnout
@drdnout 2 жыл бұрын
12,7
@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j
@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j 7 ай бұрын
put cotton over powder works great not so messy
@capandball
@capandball 7 ай бұрын
Why should I improve what is good enough?
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 5 жыл бұрын
😀😮😊👍🏼 Nice Job They Look As Good as Original Cartridges If Not Better 😊
@omerkocak5586
@omerkocak5586 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@thompsonjerry3412
@thompsonjerry3412 5 жыл бұрын
Do you anneal the brass for forming?
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
If it was already fired 2-3 times, yes.
@gbrinfo
@gbrinfo 5 жыл бұрын
Great job !
@dickeydanger6156
@dickeydanger6156 4 жыл бұрын
Sport shooters all the world are brothers.
@fabi_hunting
@fabi_hunting 5 жыл бұрын
what primers you used?
@danlarsen7572
@danlarsen7572 5 жыл бұрын
Great job
@jeffreygraf3358
@jeffreygraf3358 5 жыл бұрын
You can get 43 Mauser from Buffalo Arms (USA), but they're pricey. Also Graf and Sons (USA), but again, pricey.
@capandball
@capandball 5 жыл бұрын
And much less fun, than making your own. :)
@nickdavis5420
@nickdavis5420 5 жыл бұрын
Wow nice armor
@Eurofilme
@Eurofilme 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to clean a percussion revolver properly? That woudl be awesome :)!
@tednugent8501
@tednugent8501 5 жыл бұрын
I actually take the grrips off and run mine thru the dish washer man. Works like a charm. Just take it out about 5 minutes into the drying cycle.
@ronbianca1975
@ronbianca1975 5 жыл бұрын
Good video Amigo! What country are you located? You are lucky that you can own a gun.
@DANTAS-p8l
@DANTAS-p8l 5 жыл бұрын
saludos from brazil
@Eurofilme
@Eurofilme 5 жыл бұрын
What is your Job?
@dstevenpaisley
@dstevenpaisley 9 ай бұрын
Just sold a 11mm with some brass .hard market in Canada .not really a highly sought after weapon
@axelschult2439
@axelschult2439 5 жыл бұрын
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