Car culture is HORRIBLE in 2023, but why?

[@Spyda1409]

Simple, Social Media has ruined everything. People do things for themselves, for the likes, the views, the popularity aspect. Not just car culture but almost everything in life. People will spend $3k for a concert ticket, not because they want to see the concert but simply just to show everyone they were there.

[@Infinitiddy]

19 right now. I remember I used to look at listings of cars I would love as a first car throughout middle school and highschool when I get a first job. First job rolls around; almost all of those affordable sports cars are now like triple or more what they used to be for even worst conditions. Talk about bad timing :')

[@adrianraghunanan30]

It's to capitalize on new drivers which kinda sucks knowing it's the older folks and their kids gatekeeping. Maybe that's why new cars with pop tunes get more attention because it's pre made and not built...

[@Miki2305.]

I honestly I am disappointed in the car community, I was always excited to go to car meets and car shows but now approaching driving age I would rather just go out for a meetup with my friends. I live in europe, thank god there are no takeovers but I do really hate rigged car show winners and the pure toxicity in the car community. I have found a lot of good friends because of the car community, but you cant do that anymore, everyone is a clout chaser, blowing their cars up for attention, creating chaos and making rules even more strict.

[@OldieProductions]

Very well said.

[@indrarush91]

Cars and coffee is a real car enthusiasts meet without the crap and ignorance.check one out

[@Retro3433]

Car culture is still very alive at the right venue. Go to a morning Cars n Coffee, and you will have a blast! Go to an organized car show, and you will have a blast. Avoid night meets at all costs! This is where you can get yourself into serious trouble.

[@indrarush91]

The night meets aren't official or an enthusiasts meet.they are the people with stolen cars ,and other night activities out.thats why they destroy everything because they never had to pay for it

[@eastcoastken]

What sucks the most about the car scene is I don't want my 17, 15, and 14 year okds thinking that's the normal. Gone are the days where we would meet in the dunking donuts parking lot, grab a donut & drink and just chill. But that was 2002 Era for me. Nothing like that at all. I've been to a few meets with the oldest and his Del Sol but it's been just what you state in the video.

[@OldieProductions]

Yep, it’s a huge bummer. There’s still a couple really good “meets” in my area but they’re more like organized events rather than just hanging with your buddies in a parking lot. Miss those days.

[@XioC652]

The problem is, everybody is so hooked on social media, clout chasing and don't know how to socialize. Bro, me and my homies back in the day, we had awesome meets, always meeting new people, people came from out of state to hang out. We had responsible races and shit, and the relationships, we had, the stuff the happened back then, it was like A soap opera. A good one though, and don't get me wrong, the car scene has always had issues here and there but now? It's like every part of being an auto enthusiast sucks these days. From the fucked up car market, the fucked up people, and the criminal stupidity.. this is why me and my guys are doing totally different shit now. We do cruises, touge, etc. We have small, quiet meets. We actually have no beef with the law either. It's good. But you gotta associate with the right kinda people I guess. And it's easier said than done at the point, with all the idiots out there these days.

[@OldieProductions]

Very well said. Miss the days of just hanging out in a parking lot with the boys for hours.

[@androidunit56]

How do you do touge with no issues with the law?

[@systmmusic4729]

you completely missed arguably the biggest problem, car builds are no longer inspired by motorsport, i went to a meet the other day and thought "where are the cool cars?" it's like people don't realize their basic lame ass commuter car isnt remotely cool, and it only gets worse when you cover it in anime stickers and rainbow LEDs.

[@evolad2463]

im tired of respecting all builds

[@OldieProductions]

Me too man. Me too.

[@StuGLyfe]

It sucks. when I got out of high school, 20k USD would get you an R32 GTR. Not a clean one, and maybe not one worth buying, but that was obtainable, given the economy and my job prospects. I met a guy recently that just got his, and he paid 60 grand for a slightly modified example. It was clean as hell, but so many people are getting priced out of the market because dealers and private sellers know that some tiktoker will buy their car 10-30 thousand dollars over sticker just so they can make shitty 60 second videos on it.

[@KillerDeadXero]

car scene is like football scene. everyone loves football and has american history, but when it comes to teams.............. everyone cussing each other and wanna rip each other apart and trying to sleep with all the cheerleaders.

[@OldieProductions]

Great comparison!

[@PhilipSamuelson]

I appreciate much of what you said and the fact that you're willing to say it. I used to live in Montana and stopped going to meets because people like me who showed up without a nice car were completely ignored and treated like we shouldn't be there. Fast forward and now I daily drive an Aston Martin and take it to meets here in Wisconsin. I always make it a point to approach people who bring totally common, boring, unmodded cars and talk to them about it because I remember what it was like to be the subject of ridicule just because I rolled up to a meet in a 2003 Honda Accord. People here, thankfully, are overall much better to meet up with. We still have the kids looking for attention, but we are lucky to have a good community of young adults to retired ladies and gents who love cars and want to chat about cars.

[@Retro3433]

Great video and you absolutely nailed it! I joined a Mopar club with a bunch of old guys for a reason! Don't get it twisted, we rip and have fun, but it's all about right place, right time. Also as a Hellcat owner, I would never, and I mean never bring my car to a night meet. That is just asking for trouble. Again, great video bro!

[@mattdaddy_888]

I agree with the last point you made about how car culture is becoming toxic I believe my generation gen-z and gen-alpha are becoming more toxic in general I fell like it's only getting worse.

[@Mark3nd]

Exactly, you know what makes a stock special? You don't need to add performance or any that affects performance. You can have useful mods that give you better lighting, cleaning the car to brand new all over, or updating it's maintenance to more easier accessible places. I rather add shit than do performance.

[@sickpunch1]

If you seek takeovers you will find them. If you seek cars & coffee or meetups and cruises you will find those as well. I do recognize that living in SoCal gives me many options. But i know i can easily avoid takeovers and rowdy events. It's nowhere near as dire as some make it out to be.

[@BlackRepublicanTV]

You in a bubble out there, come to the Midwest.

[@indrarush91]

I prefer to take my track car to meets and never takeovers. Because I actually appreciate what piece of jdm history I own

[@fvkaciv]

yeah i havnt gone to a meet in a long time cuz it’s depressing no one is cool, i try to walk around and talk with people and make new friends but they are super weird meets are trash and people dont even get out of their cars white all the cars there are bone stock its awful i hate meets i’d rather link up with friends as a meet but noone in my state likes stance cars like i do so i really dont do much lol

[@OldieProductions]

Meets just aren’t the same anymore.

[@61936]

I saw a guy who wanted a 12,000 for a turbo Miata but I mean it’s 10,000 now but that’s stilll ridiculous unless the car is literally brand new just rolled out of the factory

[@OldieProductions]

Agreed.

[@Skydeth]

I especially agree with the hate and negativity point you made because of a recent experience I had, I’ll put my own personal example here: I recently got to buy one of my dream cars, a 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle 300 Deluxe (it has the 250 turbo thrift engine), and I was really excited about it so I thought of entering a group of classic cars to get some tips on basic cares and stuff, and also to get inspiration from other people’s builds and lastly, to share my passion over classic cars and Chevelles. And what did I got on my first post? I got bashed by lots of self-centered elitist assholes calling me a moron for buying a 4 door Chevelle, they were insulting both me and the car saying that it was junk and I should just throw it away, and all of that just for posting how I was excited about finally getting my dream car. Honestly I just felt disappointed about the amount of hate everybody had and just left the group, but I’m still keeping this car and putting lots of effort and love to restore it into its finest shape. But I can assure lots of people in my place would feel bad about it and would get discouraged by all the negative comments, that is why car culture right now absolutely sucks.

[@Blade_RunnerZR1]

Great video, I agree with everything said. Car scene is painful in its current state.

[@ronyhyper]

I agree that the car community sucks nowadays, but hey, not everything sucks. I'm proud to say that I'm part of the MR2 community, "the best community out there, we still host our meetings in parking lots, sometimes up to 15-20 MR2 owners, overall I love my small community! But I can't stand the clown people "aka" takeovers, clout chasers

[@OldieProductions]

By no means am I saying the whole community sucks, there are definitely still great groups and events out there! Things just seem to be getting worse as the years go on, definitely much different than how it used to be unfortunately.

[@OldieProductions]

Most recent upload Mechanic totals a Customer's 17k mile 1997 Toyota Supra: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rorRioOifZeXndU

[@edward6488]

classic car community, i know its not everyones taste but its the best

[@OldieProductions]

Just a bunch of old dudes happy to be there! I love classic car shows.

[@edward6488]

@@OldieProductions yeah I mostly go to those, plus I prefer classics in general

[@OldieProductions]

@@edward6488 Always a good time at those. I'm a classic Mopar guy at heart.

[@burkestaes8771]

You can be right in several ways. But in country towns in north tx we dont have any problems. Yet. Big cities, like dallas have a lot of bad app,es...

[@dkedge2010]

All I can say is that as a 19 year old car guy, I don't support takeovers because it makes the car culture terrible and plus I'm not like those idiotic people around my age who kept going on a riot

[@Kaos10101001]

U had some good points minus the complaining about how ppl build their cars things change been around the scene along time back when it was all crazy fiberglass body kits in the early 2000s and things will continue to change no matter how badly we want to go back to certain eras

[@OldieProductions]

Not complaining about how people build their cars. I guess I didn’t really convey my point super clearly so that’s on me. My point was that everyone these days seems to have the same builds and that’s now the “standard” and if you don’t conform to the standard, you get hated on.

[@Kaos10101001]

@@OldieProductions now that I understand and agree on

[@DrTimWhatleyDDS]

I agree it’s a problem, but it’s not selfish to charge what someone is willing to pay. We need more cars to be produced to drive down the price of used cars. It’s all tied to the supply chain issues.

[@benjarrellmusic]

Totally agree. Thanks for making this.

[@anthonycastanon9567]

It’s a paradoxical issue. The bad apples caused the government to crack down on car meets and hightened lot security. Leading to stupid kids moving the car meets to intersections, causing the full circle of the government cracking down even further. Those bad apples are the reason so and sadly you can’t just ask everybody to behave at the meets so the “good ol days” are never coming back

[@MrMechanicalMonstrosity]

30 Now been a muscle car guy my whole life, got a race spec 71 charger, was my first car, but today things have gone down hill, car meets looking like regular traffic and takeovers and bad drivers, (Videos on my channel of my muscle car collection)

[@vanyerrell6553]

I have noticed takeovers are really a problem in super populated areas. I used to live in Maryland near DC. I now live in Iowa and it's completely different. The car scene in small towns in America are still cool. You can go on a cruise to a another small town or drag race on some country backroad with two or three other people. The people out in the country are generally nicer and will help you with your builds and maintaining your car. Oh and there aren't many clout chasers.

[@SheldonBickford]

The reason your B Series engines are so hard to get parts for is that even real “builds“ these days are complete cookie-cutter operations.

[@SheldonBickford]

Just sayn

[@Kev_N_1976]

Thank you for this!

[@headshotmaster138]

Gatekeeping is a necessary evil at this rate.

[@OldieProductions]

Agreed.

[@LenovoProGaming]

Short form content. It's short form content, its ruining everything. What are your views on the tiktok ban in the US which could help the car scene!

[@kavencci]

You're are speaking nothing but facts 💯

[@caseymoore4759]

Deff glad the car culture was awesome when I was in high school.

[@chappy3669]

Cool content on interesting, current events

[@OldieProductions]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@benmisner6457]

Pretty much everything sucks in 2023

[@indrarush91]

The takeover scene is not a part of the car culture 🤦 that's just people who don't own those cars destroying them.

[@mattdaddy_888]

would you ever build a crown vic?

[@MartinsGarage97]

I got my 98 v6 mustang manual 114k miles for 1350 4 years ago... Best money I've ever spent. I can't imagine younger generation..

[@OldieProductions]

They're definitely going to have a much harder time getting into the scene than we did.

[@michaelrud4351]

Seems kinda weird for the first reason to be people not modding their cars and then the next reason is people not modding them the way you specially like. I agree with the take over thing tho that's pretty toxic

[@OldieProductions]

My point is not that people are modding their cars, it’s that it seems like if you don’t have bags, wheels, and a wrap, you’re shunned in the community. It’s like that’s the standard and if you don’t follow it, people are going to hate on you. I’m cool with people modding how they want, just not cool with being told how I should mod my car. If that makes sense.

[@michaelrud4351]

@OldieProductions I agree with that also then, I didn't get that from the video. Maybe it's geographical cuz I don't get those vibes where I'm from

[@OldieProductions]

@@michaelrud4351 Very much geographical. Takeovers barely exist where I live

[@kj9067]

Great video good content

[@mitcheljeanlouis4489]

Everything is gradually getting worse 🙃

[@LunaErosStudios]

Welcome to getting older, bud. Wait till you see what it's like when you start getting to my age (late 50s).

[@Jake-im2lv]

So I've recently been introduced to "p plater tik tok" so basically Australian new driver tik tok and its basically turned me into a zoomer hating boomer. Dumb ass kids posting their base model lancer calling it a sleeper build when they've added underbody LEDs and aftwrmarket headlights with sequential indicator lights. Not to mention the ones with like 2 years driving experience who boast about being skilled drivers because they have driven over the speed limit on public roads a few times and didn't crash.

[@OldieProductions]

Seems like everything is done for attention these days.

[@Bigalinbklyn83]

Thats not cat culture. Thats kids ruining car culture.

[@41Steeler]

This is attention culture, not car culture.

[@No_Budget_No_Problem]

Take your donuts to an empty lot at the very least

[@edward6488]

bmw 335s and 135s are literally over 15k

[@OldieProductions]

I’ve noticed BMWs are up there in prices too.

[@edward6488]

@@OldieProductions yeah it makes me sad as a bimmer Boi, specially m cars like a e90 m3 from o7-12 is like 25k minimum for a crap one but im not a fan of the new bmws I personally love the 1 series e36 and the 2002 those are soo beautiful

[@disciple7696]

It’s because the economy sucks

[@okexotics]

I’m not commenting. no one’s truly cares 😂

[@mattdaddy_888]

I think tesla and electric vehicles being faster in general ruined the car culture.

[@b15cowboy75]

Looks things go up in price it never goes down stop crying about how expensive things are

[@Taffy193]

car culture is cringe and for morons

[@_.nascarfan95._]

Bro grow up

[@OldieProductions]

You must be a takeover kid.

[@_.nascarfan95._]

@@OldieProductions I never been to one lol

[@OldieProductions]

@@_.nascarfan95._ Then elaborate on how I need to “grow up”.

[@Ru2stee]

The people complaining about this this ARE the grown-ups. You don't see grown men taking mommy and daddys car to the takeover do you?

[@AR-lj8zt]

I just want a cool JDM rear wheel drive manual and they’re all like over insane prices and look like they were in a jungle.

[@OldieProductions]

It’s sad. Dream JDM cars are becoming more and more unobtainable.

[@idontgotagun9867]

Glad the cars i like are staying somewhat cheap, Audi B5 S4, Mitsubishi 3000Gt VR4, and 300ZX

[@OldieProductions]

Won’t be long before all enthusiast cars get up there in price.