Car Runs For 100 Years Without Refueling - The Thorium Car

[@ThaHyperHybrid]

They forgot to mention how insanely cheap and available thorium is... I farmed loads of the stuff, all by myself, back in the Un'goro crater.

[@mowem789]

You win sir.

[@Ms10000123]

Did you guys do any research into this? Even chemistry at the most basic level should make you skeptical of these claims.

[@G_Gued]

Literally hundreds of theories of physical law would have to be proven valid for this car to ever run faster than 3 mph. And even then, without exploding.

[@VisionXray23]

Ms10000123 I know that the Indians have a working thorium reactor. Making a working car is a whole different story.

[@Ms10000123]

***** A thorium reactor will not be able to reach the claimed output, unless they'd be able to convert the molecules into pure energy.

[@The0nlySplash]

Ms10000123 you'd need lightspeed E=mc^2

[@Ms10000123]

***** Nuclear reactions is part of chemistry where I'm from. I've had enough to be able to do the calcultion myself. Thorium can't produce what is claimed. If you know so well, show me the reaction, and the energy calculation. It shouldn't take more than a few lines of text.

[@Unibomber2u]

Anyone who tries to release a car that runs for 100 years on 8 grams of fuel is a dead man walking. Oil Companies don't want a solution face it.

[@todd4freeusa]

Of course they want to use the radioactive fuel that can be made into weapons instead of the fuel that is safe and better for the environment.

[@Mr0i0watch0videos]

who cares, if i had the money, i would have supported them and made my own company that builds those cars

[@Joe11Blue]

mk ultra Thorium can not be made into weapons.

[@1014p]

G Heald we’ve already had a water powered car HHO. Hybrid electric that 1 gallon went near 500 miles. Also some others as well.

[@belltolltothee261]

G Heald absolutely true! If we want a gas less cars, we could have it a long time ago, but American greed will always be a guard against it! China will go for 100 percent electric, China opens up building bridges, US builds walls and shutting down the government because of the walls! Ain’t that stupid! That’s how primitive we are in the US! And yet we always accused China of stealing our technology!

[@stratocaster1986able]

Even if it was possible, do you honestly think that the oil lobbyists on capitol hill would sit idly by and let these cars be mass produced?

[@ALSmith-zz4yy]

What could they do about it?

[@dylanclay2741]

Once all the petroleum is used up they cant do anything about it

[@xxMrBaldyxx]

If indeed the thorium car was possible, someone could easily start up a business and begin selling them. Elon Musk has already proven that such a thing is possible - he has been selling electric cars for quite some time already. Oil companies do have a lot of power, but they are not omnipotent.

[@SovereignStatesman]

MarcusAurelius why would an oriole lobbyists just invest in thorium instead?

[@SovereignStatesman]

Dylan Clay it doesn't work that way, there isn't one day when the oil well is all just run dry. They simply become more scarce, and so oil gets more expensive, causing a greater push for alternative fuels. Economics 101.

[@Thunderf00t]

FYI.... its bullshit.

[@theElasticJesuz]

What is...Thorium, the car, or both?

[@zarkoff45]

+Thunderf00t wrote: "it's bullshit." I prefer the term "highly speculative." There is no working thorium-fueled nuclear reactor yet that I know of, certainly not one that would fit in a car, however, there have been feasibility studies done for conventional reactors and there is going to be a test at the Norwegian government owned Halden Nuclear Reactor: oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/Thorium-To-Be-Tested-in-a-Working-Nuclear-Reactor.html In the end this may be as dumb as speculating there would be nuclear powered cars back in 1951 when they were experimenting with the first nuclear reactor generated power stations. Concept cars are really just an excuse for science fiction artists to get hired by car companies.

[@drorharari]

The young Turks are known for the low standard of fact checking. No surprise here.

[@kage1921]

can you do a video on induced radioactivity?

[@Hadgerz]

Dror Harari Ana stated in the video she wanted to see more research done on the tech, so it's obvious they weren't taking it seriously as some sort of 'miracle fuel'. The thorium experiment only powered a steam engine. Yes, _steeeeeam._ I can guarantee anyone who says that part aloud let alone says it to a camera can tell it's a dead giveaway that this isn't some sort of teaspoon of magic you can put in your car and commute to and from work for a lifetime... And then there's that light-hearted comment about ice giants. They're commenting on a popular news article here, not proclaiming the earth is saved from our peak oil woes.

[@ryanell666]

All that Thorium I mined in World of Warcraft was good for something....My life is now validated.

[@anaamari5643]

Thunderf00t did a great video on why this car would sadly not work. I encourage anyone interested in this to check it out. Thorium in power plants, on the other hand, would be very interesting to see in the future. From what I've read, it's safer and more efficient, and there are precautions we can take with it that we can't necessarily take with Uranium, things that could prevent another disaster like Fukushima.

[@slickdarulah8229]

Thx for the link on another video. What disaster happen with Fukushima? I knew of it, and I saw a lot of propaganda on it. But it turned out to not be as destructive as initially reported.

[@intellectualhybrid2]

Wow, doing no research at all. Not suprised

[@Funkestech]

They used Uranium for nuclear plants instead of Thorium because you can't make nuclear weapons with Thorium.

[@The_Mourning_Paper]

Is anyone going to talk about the dangers of having several objects that can move at upwards of 100km/h carrying radioactive material on the roads? Anyone who's been driving for a while knows that a good chunk of the population are horrible drivers, and there WILL be accidents. Until someone starts seriously talking about safety measures (maybe really thick lead for fuel containment, autonomous drivers, etc.), I'm going to approach this idea with the same sort of skepticism I use to approach other "miracle" fuels.

[@tyrongkojy]

I would figure it would be obvious, that such measures would be taken.

[@doxide]

You do realize that thorium isn't like dynamite or gasoline right? It doesn't just blow up when there's impact or a spark.

[@The_Mourning_Paper]

doxide I do realize it doesn't explode, but it's radioactive. That carries with it a different kind of danger.

[@yzman123]

doxide Yes buts its radioactive. Not something we want to be leaking out after an accident.

[@The_Mourning_Paper]

tyrongkojy Saying it's "obvious" doesn't really cut it for me. You have to have the conversation about safety before the entire project can even be considered feasible. There's no point in spending money to develop thorium-powered vehicles if we later find out that there's no practical method with which we can guarantee our safety in the case of an accident.

[@tgrigsby7]

The story about thorium powered cars was debunked months ago. The numbers they give about the energy return are off by orders of magnitude. One kilogram of uranium produces the same energy as 156 gallons of gasoline. Second, the reactor they're describing uses a molten salt cooling system that is huge -- far larger than would fit in a car -- that operates at a thousand degrees just to get started. That means the cooling system has to be heated before you can start the reactor that's supposed to generate electricity. Love TYT, but they got punked on this one. It's true that thorium reactors would be safer for generating electricity, but the byproducts include uranium, and that's why it was outlawed.

[@bimpa1568]

Regardless of the nuclear reactor type, simply generating electricity at a huge scale and just using that to power electric vehicles will always be smarter than strapping a comparatively inefficient nuclear power plant to each vehicle

[@galaxyspirals9595]

You can also run a car for years on a few grams of literally any element ever according to this logic.

[@Leonelf0]

This is scam, watch ***** video about this car. It's not possible to do it that way, but thorium itself is a thing

[@Ulvenok]

A thorium driven houseboat equipped with satellite internet, small fishing net and a salt water filtrator.

[@DrH5N1]

YES !

[@gamer6uy]

With a greenhouse for growing limes

[@AquarielCharm]

NOPE and I don't care if the car can fly from coast to coast or project astrally. The waste from Thorium is still too dangerous and will last a few hundred years instead of 10,000 or more years from uranium waste.

[@Evan_Bell]

3:31. That is incredible inefficient. Thorium decay produced very little heat, let alone enough to boil water, not enough to power a car anyway.. 3:43 No it doesn't. If you fission it in a reactor (something like a LFTR) it would be closer to that, not still no where near. Just did the math, and from the radioactive decay of 8g of thorium, you get 7.71e-14 (That's 0.000000000000771 Joules per second. ) That is absolutely nothing. To power a standard 60W light bulb it would take 6.2 Billion tons of Thorium. If you wanted to run a normal sized car you'd need somewhere around 3e16kg That's 30 billion tonnes, not 8 grams! This is all assuming you had a magic machine that was 100% efficient at converting the heat released from the decaying thorium into electrical energy.

[@edwardsmith618]

you just did the math? Oh good because I'm sure those qualified scientists working on this project totally forgot to

[@instagramsnapchat933]

He's right I just checked the numbers too it adds up too.

[@rockethead7]

Edward Smith YOU SAID: "you just did the math?" -- His math is basically correct for just using a lump of Thorium (large lump) to power a car. But, obviously, the problem is that the proposal is to use Thorium as a nuclear fuel, which mean attaining criticality, and starting the chain reaction to actually make a nuclear reactor. In that case, his math doesn't apply. YOU SAID: "Oh good because I'm sure those qualified scientists working on this project totally forgot to" -- What "qualified scientists" are you talking about? No qualified scientist would ever endorse this obvious investment scam. You can't put a Thorium reactor in a car (not without killing its occupants with the high velocity neutron and gamma radiation, or requiring the car to be the size/weight of a locomotive). And, what the hell are the lasers for in this design? (They're useless, and the lasers they're proposing don't even exist.) Charles Stevens (CEO of "Laser Power Systems") is just a scam artist. He and his friends were already busted by the SEC (go read the lawsuit on sec.gov yourself) for their last investment scam, which promised to "cure all diseases and regrow lost limbs" (his own words). They stole $6.5 million (that anyone knows about, so it's probably more) from gullible investors. They issued a fake prospectus naming scientists that didn't even exist (so much for your idea about "qualified scientists" since Charles Stevens isn't one). The car in this video was designed by a skateboard designer, and they stuck a Cadillac logo on it in order to pretend like it's been endorsed by a major car company (Cadillac denies any involvement). They then said they showed the car in the 2009 Chicago auto show (no such car was at that show, and it doesn't even exist, it's just a computer rendering). And, Charles Stevens' last published business address was in the Sea of Tranquility on the moon (yes, literally). If you want to believe the utter claptrap that these "Young Turk" morons are supporting, hey, be my guest. But, whatever you do, please don't think that "The Young Turks" are actually a "news" organization. Cenk formed "The Young Turks" after he got fired from his newscasting job, and decided to start this silly editorial podcast organization instead (NOT NEWS). They don't lift a single finger to investigate any of their "news" stories, and instead just produce commentary (which comes straight out of their ignorant asses). 10 minutes of Google searching would tell anyone that Charles Stevens is a scam artist, and that the car doesn't exist. But, these Young Turk morons don't ever investigate any of the claims they talk about. They just sit there and blabber utter nonsense, perhaps (not sure) even being paid by the investment scam artists themselves to produce articles like this.

[@Evan_Bell]

I wasn't being incredibly precise with my maths either.. But I can say with confidence it's on the order of a few dozen billion tonnes in order to power a car..

[@rockethead7]

Evan Bell YOU SAID: "But I can say with confidence it's on the order of a few dozen billion tonnes in order to power a car." -- Yes, if you're just gathering energy from Thorium just sitting there doing nothing. -- No, not if you use Thorium as a nuclear fuel in a stable criticality reactor (like Uranium/Plutonium in existing reactors). Then it would only require a tiny amount. But, this car is just an investment scam, and there a dozens of other reasons why their claims are impossible.

[@Novaverse]

Fuck Thorium. My car runs on Jesusium.

[@Andstuff1000]

Fuck you

[@sodadrinker89]

Can it turn my beer into water?

[@BarkeepD]

pottman101 Americans already do that HA your beer is weak sauce

[@sousukesagara193]

I assume it can walk/run on water ?

[@Insanonaga]

Satanium's better. I can drive my car to hell. Not always back though.

[@EdGloss]

Hey TYT, how about consulting a scientist before filing this ridiculous report.

[@DSgamrz585]

I'll wait for the Lokium fueled car

[@shockinglyoriginal]

hilarious!!!!!!! lol

[@adrianschuurmans]

Best reply yet.

[@EricMeyer9]

Thorium can power cars, just not with some fancy laser powered steam reactor inside a car. That is complete poppycock. To power a car with thorium: Step 1. Put Thorium in a Molten Salt Reactor (with a little U233 to start), Step 2. Make an incredible amount of clean electricity. Step 3. Charge batteries for electric cars. And if you hate electric vehicles, then you could Step 1. Put Thorium in a Molten Salt Reactor. Step 2. Make carbon neutral gas by splitting water into hydrogen and recombining with sequestered carbon. Step 3. Pull up your Hummer to the gas pump and fill it with guilt free gas at $3/gallon. Google Thorium Ted Talks to find out for yourself.

[@RickMaltese]

It's amusing when the guy in the video says forget about the return of Jesus how about the return of Thorium?

[@zbcanfield]

How do you harvest energy from nuclear reactions? Can you answer that? A nuclear reaction does not simply generate electricity. It generates heat. That heat is used to boil water and create steam. The steam then push a turbine to generate electricity. the 'fancy laser powered steam reactor' is very necessary with today's technologies.

[@MasterNaruto1214]

The petroleum companies would never let this happen anyway,and the government would just scare us into thinking that Thorium is dangerous because it's nuclear technology.

[@SeanTheOriginal]

They don't even need to scare people, they can just pay whatever President is in office a few million dollars and Thorium would become an illegal substance with the death penalty attached for anyone in possession of it.

[@ZigZag9639]

We the People are 100x bigger than the gov't. We can overpower them easily. Forget what the gov't wants.

[@HypnosisASMR]

how do you fit a thorium reactor into a car?

[@squiggofant]

Open the trunk, place the thorium reactor inside and close the trunk.

[@DaedalusProps]

Magic...duh

[@billboyd4051]

It fits nicely between the flux capacitors ,beautiful earth woman.

squiggofant Don't forget to shrink it first with a thorium powered shrinking beam (available at your local gas station).

[@mechwar31]

Lets not forget 20 years ago cell phones were breif case sized. With time and technological refinement all things get smaller. 80 years years ago the idea that a 150cc engine could get a car to go more than 30miles an hour would have been an absurd fantasy.

[@Alex_Off-Beat]

I absolutely love how one of my recommended videos is called "The Giants of Iceland" apparently Odin didn't do so great afterall

[@marcuscoster6529]

Yes, but they aren't ice giants. The video you're probably seeing is the Vice documentary on strongmen in Iceland.

[@Alex_Off-Beat]

Yes it is, I just thought it was a funny coincidence.

[@19ryanclemons]

I was going to comment the same thing.not religious but, Ice Giants exist lol

[@yuichituba]

4:35 LOL!!!!!! I love how she didn't get his Thor joke.

[@Kevin-ge6td]

Yuichi Tuba I don't think anyone did, care to explain?

[@MrLohals]

Yuichi Tuba LOL I got it. Thor sawing the world

[@alb9022]

Kevin L Actually, I got the joke. I'm sure though, that anyone that has seen the Thor/Avenger movies or has an interest in Norse mythology, would get the joke.

[@Attackit2113]

I would love to see this happen, there's also a car that run on water but as long money is involved the ppl in charge wont let this happen. We have I technology to convert this world to a type 1 civilization.

[@rayronnyd4659]

up vote for the civilization types!

[@TEEHSOO]

You know what's worst about this youtube new comment system?? The new sound the like button makes.

[@moviedude2244]

Thumbs down!

[@Missycandylips]

I thumbs down your comment right when I saw the words thumbs up.

[@daxter34]

ugh and look at his g+ profile this is all hes been doing all day -_-

[@MedicinalxMeditation]

if there is a sound when you thumbs up a comment then there should be one when you thumbs it down as well. lets see what sound that makes.

[@chevon1920]

You suck and it didn't make a sound when I thumbed you down.

[@Tuppoo94]

Sadly this is bullshit. Currently the most powerful laser has an output of about 1 megawatt, and it can maintain that for 70 seconds. The laser is designed to shoot down missiles. So the car would have to be fitted with a laser of about 0.14 MW, about one seventh of the power of the most powerful laser in the world, and the car's engine would produce about 190 horsepower with that laser. So there would be cars with high-power lasers and mini nuclear reactors driving around. Sounds dangerous? That's because it is. Also, thorium lasers don't exist, and even if they did they would produce a laser of GAMMA RAYS. It would boil water but it would also irradiate the driver, the passengers, and the environment. It's a better idea to just put the thorium into a nuclear power plant and produce electricity to power electric cars.

[@Ghettofinger]

Even making Thorium plants is non-beneficial. Uranium plants are MUCH safer than they used to be, the Fukishima one was almost 50 years old. The research for thorium plants would cost millions if not billions alone, much less retrofitting all the uranium plants. Not worth it, especially since we are a couple of decades from fusion anyway.

[@Tuppoo94]

GhettoFinger Thorium can be quite easily used in current nuclear power plants. The modifications wouldn't be too major.

[@stupidburp]

Tuppoo94 Yes this retrofit is possible and is useful for creating a market for thorium. But, going to a new design such as LFTR is required to gain many benefits of switching to thorium such as dramatically increased safety and cost efficiency.

[@salimzwein]

Xenthoid it is the technology in this car that is bullshit not the use of Thorium per se. this said using Thorium in retrofit uranium Light Water Reactor (LWR) works. if Thorium is used in molten salt reactor (MSR) it can do way much better..but the technology described in this car is neither and simply sounds like bulshit

[@MrWalalaa]

or ride bikes and eliminate obesity and all the shit that comes with it

[@andrejames3006]

Don't mock Jesus my friend! Honor His name!!

[@dbr4425]

real talk my friend jesus is number one

[@andrejames3006]

Michelle Howes Got to keep it real..Jesus Is number One!!

[@amashoota3398]

Andre James he obviously doesn't realize he's mocking himself by saying that..

[@soltysss]

F*ck Jesus!

[@amashoota3398]

poor yuriy, so much hate? relax.. u will need him badly

[@ramone2185]

Wow. I hope this Thorium thing actually happens, and I'm alive for it (I'm only 28). It sounds amazing!

[@christopherp.3307]

No, you are 36 now.

[@stokrenden]

How the fuck can somebody not have heard of Thorium? I'm not talking about a deep knowledge but at least knowing that it is an element.

[@WhenItsHalfPastFive]

Because many people do not specialize in chemistry? it's not really general knowledge to know what thorium is. Please stop making smartass comments, nobody likes them.

[@stokrenden]

Komighty1 So Americans don't even learn the most basic stuff about the periodic table in school?

[@yzman123]

stokrenden There is nothing "basic" about thorium. Its literally not used for anything. Get off your high horse.

[@nipplewort]

I remember mining Thorium in World of Warcraft.

[@stokrenden]

***** I'm pretty sure that at least the Uranium 238 decay chain was part of the curriculum in the mandatory science classes that ALL kids here in Denmark have. So maybe the education in USA isn't up to par?

[@HerrDrAlex]

It's simple -- build a Thorium breeder reactor, as we did in 1977 at Shippingport PA, and as the Indians & others are now doing. Generate electricty and charge a million EVs with the juice. Voila -- Thorium-powered cars! Any competent scientist or engineer knows anything else is donkey dust. ;]

[@TheShaggedelic]

Trivia here that might be interesting. India has a extensive fast breeder reactor program which does use thorium as nuclear fuel.

[@bobafett3190]

Normally I do not watch these guys but this is freaken cool.

[@alin687]

Connor Kenway it's also kinda impossible xD

[@bobafett3190]

Alexander Lin They said the same thing about breaking the sound barrier. I say if these guys say they can figure it out let them try. It will certainly be better than getting oil from countries who want us dead.

[@alin687]

Connor Kenway yeah true. But I can't imagine a nuclear reactor in my car....can you imagine car crashes? Yikes..haha

[@bobafett3190]

Alexander Lin Yeah that could be a huge problem.

[@thoughtank1019]

Alexander Lin (mushroom cloud above the highway) Dam it! Now I have to find an alternative route, HAHA!

[@jerico641]

What happens when and if you smash the thing into a tree or another car? What if anything will it leak onto the road, other people, and send into the atmosphere?

[@Milosz_Ostrow]

Nuclear reactors can't produce power on demand the way internal combustion engines and electric motors can, so running a car directly with a built-in thorium reactor would be impractical. A better solution is to have electric cars recharged with small thorium power plants scattered across the landscape or using the energy from small reactors to split water to produce hydrogen fuel. This would avoid the problem of having to drive a car with two or three tons of radiation shielding built into it.

[@62636263c]

There are many cars out there that have already been running for a hundred years, ie the Ford Model A , ect. They are classic cars now, but they still run.

[@SirLurkington]

The sad part is that all the fuel industries would fight the use of thorium because they'd lost so much money and the government would tax the shit out of that car.

[@gradostax]

***** hiptochromniack is correct Big Oil, Big Coal, Nuclear plant owners. Would fight Thorium nuclear plants and cars with Billions of dollars of lobbyists and negative propaganda.

[@lowpricedpaint]

Can you imagine the price of a good thorium auto mechanic to do the maintenance on it? You may not have to refuel, but there are still moving parts in the drive train. Lets say the laser goes out, or the turbine bearings, where would you find a mechanic, and what would the parts cost?

[@ManiManiPlays]

Watched Thunderf00t's analysis on this idea... sounds like the tech doesn't even exist, so finding a good mechanic would be pretty tricky at best. XD

[@Alexutzu200973]

man if this car whould be produced its not gonna be made from plastic im pretty sure that is gonna be build like a tank in order to protect the important parts and the driver . man time changes always with new techonolgy people will adapt just like when computers were first introduced where did u find mechanics to repaire them back then ? and owaw some years later they are everywhere . and 1 more think the only different part at this car is the engine and design the other parts are the same as a normal car

[@42stackz]

I'm pretty sure that if you're the rich son of a bitch who can afford this car, you can afford to have an expert flown in and repair it.

[@AuzzieGamerHD]

the price of 100 years worth of petrol

[@AuzzieGamerHD]

Dale B Lol, i didn't miss that point. I'm just mocking it.

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I understand that thorium could be used on cars, but in my opinium its much safer to use electricity in cars and just use thorium in powerplants. No matter how safe thorium is, it's still radioactive, and no matter how low the chances are of getting radiation poisoning from crashes that expose the material, its still much safer to use batteries.

[@oldkiwibloke]

Everyone on the planet (and off) is exposed to radiation all day every day. But be afraid. There is everything to be afraid of.

[@StarReel]

Car that might possibly maybe run for a 100 years. That should be the title of this video.

[@karmabad6287]

car that has been completely rebuilt several times runs for 100 years on thorium

[@martolives]

Thorium is not a radioactive metal. It is fertile, not fissile, you can hold the stuff in your hand and it will not hurt you.

[@tycho_m]

Just because you can hold it in your hand doesn't mean it's not radioactive. It is indeed fertile, but that just means that you can't fission it. In other words, it can't sustain a fission chain reaction. That doesn't mean that the isotopes aren't unstable and therefore not radioactive. Naturally occurring thorium decays by emitting alpha particles with a half-life of 14 billion years or something, so is radioactive, but not the particularly dangerous kind.

[@GypsMoth13]

No worries, this car story was debunked almost as soon as it was first proposed. The thumbnail picture is just a come on. Thorium needs work.

[@abubakar31]

debunked by the big oil and you just believe

[@GeahkBurchill]

See Thunderf00t's video debunking this car. It's pretty informative. I'm sad to see TYT get taken in by hucksters.

[@Tannz0rz]

***** Danke sehr. You'd have to be embarrassed to even be subscribed to these guys. This channel is terrible in the manner that their "news" is often over-sensationalized and little-understood by the anchors. But I guess that's what news agencies are for: providing partially accurate information that can be comprehended in Simple English.

[@sampleoffers1978]

I'm reading comments say this won't work, but if it's radioactive metal, electric current can be obtained from it via rf/radiowaves to make electric current from sound into motion. Would obviously drive Gieger counter crazy. Then if you built a hundred of them at least, you might be able to supplement some electrical grid power sources if the tire spin were applied for that.

[@frisianmouve]

Go watch the video from thunderfoot about this, someone who understands this stuff. Sad though, first video i downvoted of The Young turks because of not doing any research on this.

[@marcelosinico]

We aren't using thorium because we can't make bombs of it. Nuclear reactors were built not to produce energy but "waste" for bombs. However... Imagine a crash of a car fulled by a radioactive substance, and this thing leaking. Yeap! We would have Chernobyl every day before get to work.

[@ZStormcaller]

Even if its safe there is no way they will allow it. No profit involved. Just like all the other suppressed technologies ever invented.

[@BeBoBli]

Oh it's profitable, just it requires an initial investment that the established petrol chemical industry would rather not take part in, but care enough to invest in suppressing the rest of the market that could use it to compete.

[@themongru]

They'll just find another way to make money, maybe road tolls or something. They could also make sure that the Thorium powered cars are very overpriced so that hardly anyone could own one. I know what you're saying though, imagine for instance if you could run your car on water. The oil industry would collapse virtually overnight.

[@henpark]

Star Trek had dilithium and now we can have thorium. Cool. But to address some fallacies other commenters are making, 1. E=mc^2 does not mean something has to be accelerated to the speed of light. c indicates how big the energy can be if mass can be converted to energy, hence 1g of mass times 300000km/s square is massive energy. It is mass or energy which acts as variables. 2. It is a logical gap to think the company would just burn the hell out of thorium to yield energy to drive the car. Not only is it dangerous because of enormous heat as stated in laser-water boiling experiment in the video but also given that solid state fuel generally has trouble of stopping the ignition once ignited (rocket science has solved this in part by developing liquid fuel), slow ignition and buring process is of importance. If it rings anyone's bell, catalysts (more like inhibitors) can be used to control the rate of reaction. Certainly, efficient counter current cooling system should be designed too. Therefore, given that thorium generates energy with much efficiency which can be controled and addressed insinuates that our future has a hope that can change the world at large.

[@henpark]

3. In addition, diluting and dissolving solid state thorium in solvent to convert it liquid state fuel can be another solution. With possible homogeneous catalysts.

[@SarthorS]

OMG TYT - Get at least one person with an education in science on your team.

[@heatwave59]

there is so many amazing efficient technologies out but the gas companies will lose money someone need to do something about the gas companies they have to much power and influence

[@x1shotllama]

Have you ever seen the tires that don't require air? It's a big rubber sponge in a sense, and it would eliminate flat tires, but big tire companies don't want it taking their business. So rather than producing something similar to the tire themselves, they pay to have it shot down. They're suppressing innovation because they want money.

[@pops7003]

x1shotllama If that was the case US army won't be spending millions on researching tires that don't require air. Link : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airless_tire

[@x1shotllama]

Pankaj Kumar Sharma The army is considering using them, but if you delve a bit deeper (I recommend a source besides wikipedia), there is actually a pretty significant history around these tires. The first form of it was created 50 some odd years ago.

[@pauliacono6580]

x1shotllama The problem in internet age, is if they don't find it on 1st page of Google it doesn't exist...lol. Come on guys...READ, it's easy and good for you too. Airless tyres are very well researched they just want their friends to have contracts worth BIG with Our taxes.

[@hagbard72]

Lets have those backyard thorium power plants. No more public utility or monthly bills. I'll build my own.

[@AfghanXFactor]

I like the fact the TYT is getting into the saving planet things... keep up the good work we need more channels and people like you...

[@sureshots98]

Next space travel baby.

[@artcorbeau]

thorium uses nuclear technology. who would be stupid enough to use a vehicle powered with a nuclear reactor, miniaturized or not ?

[@ChipArgyle]

Before this story goes any further, we need to ask ourselves if it would be a good idea to put something this radioactive into the hands of the general public. Knowing what I know about metal thieves and what they're willing to do to make a living it wouldn't be long before someone started harvesting thorium out of vehicles for nefarious purposes.

[@elnidodelmuerto]

Well first off thorium is actually not that hard to come by, it's mainly thrown out by mines. So metal thieves are not really an issue. Also secondly thorium only decays into alpha particles, which are not dangerous at all. To put it in perspective, you could block a particles with a sheet of paper. Uranium emits gamma particles which you need concrete or lead to block it. Also Th can't really be used for nefarious purposes. That's the whole reason our powerplants mainly run on U-235 instead of Th. But the Th car is bullshit. It can't work like that. So don't worry about that. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

[@elnidodelmuerto]

Absolutely, at least in the way they're attempting. Nuclear power cars are not a new thing. This concept has been around since the 50's with the Ford Nucleon. Thorium powered vehicles, I could see that being a possibility. But not now, the least amount of years to have a reactor that a nuclear engineer doesn't have to operate would be at least 200 years from now. Unless of course we start investing more money in nuclear technologies, then yeah this isn't going to be a thing for a long time.

[@VirOfCausa1]

Screw it, you wouldnt even need to steal the car... you could buy one, then just take the stuff you want out in your garage. Buuut the science behind this is sketchy at best... if not impossible

[@laddieangus1730]

VirOfCausa1 "Impossible"? Not according to an article in Forbes concerning Norway's stockpile of Thorium,. "The immediate future doesn’t look optimistic for thorium, certainly with the untested accelerator-driven reactors, and yet two thorium reactors have been operated, which were of the far simpler molten-salt reactor kind." www.forbes.com/sites/energysource/2012/02/29/thorium-nuclear-power-a-lesson-from-norway/

[@onemoresong4255]

Crackheads will find a way to smoke it 🤣😳

[@lowkeylocLs]

And they never heard of these people ever again

[@Mordewolt]

Muhhamed promised peace and paradise. Jesus promised that evil will go away. Thor promised to get rid of ice giants. I don't see no ice giants nowhere. Thor - realistic promises, solid delivery.

[@ThatAnnoyingINTJKid]

I'm getting ready to get my degree in radiation physics (I've taken multiple classes on nuclear reactors, and I've even worked in a nuclear reactor), and these people have not even an inkling of an idea about what they're talking about. there was a TON of misinformation in this video. Please The Young Turks: if you don't know what you're talking about, don't try to talk about it. just say, there's a ton of bad press on nuclear energy even though it is one of the safest forms of energy. i literally had to stop 3/4ths of the way through the video cause i couldn't stand the stupidity and ill informed ideas being thrown around.

[@TarisRedwing]

That's the media and general population for you.

[@EIRESYM]

That's awesome but the people in the Oil industry will never let this happen. Their product would become worthless over night, Millions of jobs would be lost.

[@knyght1074]

The crazy look she gives the guy near the end when he started talking about Thor was priceless.

[@ufopulse]

China is putting the finishing touches on Thorium reactors as we speak

[@Dowlphin]

Sounds almost too good to be true. ... Although if anyone had the foresight and wisdom (and means) to do it, I guess it would indeed be the Chinese. And I found plenty of articles stating it. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@jacobew2000]

No, they went with proven nuclear technology, and went full nuclear, and not thorium!

[@Dowlphin]

jake2000 Too bad I couldn't inspire you to do as I did and do a tiny bit of web search to realize you're mistaken here. in.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/breakout-thorium-idINL4N0FE21U20131220

[@jacobew2000]

Dowlphin Again, uranium is a proven science for reactors. I do find the article to be interesting but there is a fundamental problem with the argument here. Those who are pushing thorium claim that its "safer" than Uranium, which is hard to prove at this point, and raises other issues. Any power source will have its dangers, and quite frankly, if you use any radiation source, it has the potential to harm human tissue. If you have to use it to boil water (or molten salts)to make a turbine work (which thorium reactors have to do), you can boil the water in a person too. I certainly don't want an unproven technology, that can not even be done on an Industrial, power plant level, to be used in vehicles until it is proven. I have no problems with the science advancing and seeing where it goes, but I don't think that at this point, there is strong evidence that a thorium based reactor is even viable on a large scale. However, I am not against further experimentation on a thorium system. But just not for VEHICLES!

[@JamieButterworth]

Sounds like the kind of cars from the Fallout game series.

[@kaiseravm]

wow =0

[@hedegaard8]

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[@davecasey4341]

Just click on their name under the video, go to the About page and look for the flag under their description. Click on that and the first choice is Block User.

[@hedegaard8]

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[@floppietbc1251]

I love how two people who didn't know what Thorium was before this report feel informed enough to pontificate on how we've just been deprived by the lack of its use.

[@PurpleFanto]

I knew what Thorium was. Thanks Breaking Bad

[@corthew]

I think the problem with thorium is that it requires no large workforce to maintain the systems. The goal for Nixon was to create more jobs. Our understanding of what is important is shifting though. With Switzerland considering meeting the basic needs of all its citizens we are beginning to move toward the Star Trek philosophy that envisions people being able to work the jobs they want to rather than having to work just to survive. Our technology can free us if we let it.

[@repivz00]

It's appalling that you would even defend Nixon's decision, that's the same nonsense argument Luddites made against power looms... -_- Refrigerators/Freezers also killed plenty of jobs by making ice harvesting obsolete, but it also created a lot of new jobs by making food storage more efficient without which modern Supermarkets would not exist, not to mention the ice cream industry.

[@corthew]

repivz00 You seem to have completely missed the part of the video where they said thorium reactors are zero maintenance. A child genius recently did a ted talk that included his desire to start a company to build these devices. You install them several feet underground, connect them to the grid, then bury them and walk away. They'll last for tens to hundreds of years and never need repairs. Nuclear reactors are quite a bit more demanding. I'm not defending Nixon but I do understand his motivation. Perhaps you should have read the rest of my post before you assumed I was.

[@repivz00]

I read your entire post, perhaps you should have read mine, I clearly explained how better technology benefits society even as it renders other jobs obsolete. His motivations were rooted in nonsense there's nothing understandable about it, technological efficiency creates greater opportunity, maintaining a state of deficiency for the sole sake of "preserving jobs" is a ludicrous concept, like hiring an army of gardeners to cut grass with nail clippers as opposed to one man with a lawnmower just because the former creates more jobs. The extra revenue saved can be spent on other things, which will contribute or create other jobs of actual value to society.

[@corthew]

repivz00 And that is what I mean when I say our understanding of what is important is shifting. You may have read my entire post but you did not pay attention to it.

[@repivz00]

If that's what you meant then I stand corrected on your post. However I still feel you're being a bit too understanding of Nixon, his motivations doesn't excuse his ignorance, Luddites made the same argument in the 1800s you'd think he'd learn from history instead of shifting our understanding back a whole century, delaying progress.

[@kawa1755]

I respected this channel so much until i saw this video.

[@BashMonkeyRC]

Thunderfoot has debunked this. Thorium has a low decay rate, you're not gonna generate a lot energy from it

[@paulbehr468]

decay rate is not related to chain reaction process.

[@BashMonkeyRC]

+Paul Behr nonetheless the energy output is too low and slow to harness enough energy needed to power an electric, even disregarding the fact that we can still only harness energy from nuclear using steam and convection. It'd be more viable covering the car in solar panels

[@thefiregodzapp]

Even if it could power the car it would produce gamma rays and if you are even a little bit literate in the field of science that's a dumb idea

[@BashMonkeyRC]

And the amount of shielding needed to block those gamma rays would turn the car into a brick, further debunking the possibility of a thorium-powered or nuclear-powered car in general

[@BashMonkeyRC]

Thunderfoot also elaborated on that but I didn't want to make a mile long post on why a thorium-powered car is a fantasy

[@GnrlKitty]

Literally the only reason thorium isn't popular is that you can't make bombs out of it. Seriously that's it. Sweden will eventually get around to this, just like they do everything else world super powers ignore.

[@jimwilliams1536]

Thor to the rescue! Thor trumps Jesus.

[@cata112233]

And common sense trumps you....

[@amorphicalalex6538]

Diaconu Catalin lol what? common sense? youre a christian and youre talking about common sense?

[@na7vy990]

Diaconu Catalin Gj mate, you stirred the over protective athiests ^,^

[@jimwilliams1536]

they're not difficult to stir

[@cata112233]

alex tatarinov yes I am. You have a problem with common sense?

[@IckyStickyIcky]

Thunderf00t debunked this. Not gonna happen.

[@ATHDTV]

First of all its a concept. Thorium easily has the radioactive output of a sufficient energy to ionize a lasing medium, (gas plasma) which can be tuned to pump a dye laser, which is then tuned to boil a water carbon particulate mix, to generate steam. What people are not seeing is that this power system never stops charging. It runs day and night 24-7 to charge a battery that is only in use for maybe 5-12% of that time. Plenty of power and then some. this vehicle would not be intended for long distance, similar to an all electric car.(In fact that is what this car is but its charging system is like a self contained solar plant with a built in artificial sun {thorium} ). All this technology exists off the shelf, and a prototype is not a difficult design provided you understand that the thoriums radiation(an ultra high frequency of light with low intensity), is being converted to high frequency higher intensity light then relatively low frequency (blue) ultra high intensity light, to essentially shake the water to steam. The final conversion of the light from blue to infra red of medium intensity with the rapid expansion of water to convert the energy to work is the pay off mechanically. Finally the steam turns a turbine in a closed steam loop, to run an electric generator to charge an otherwise standard electric car. it sounds complex but it is in principle; similar to a neon colored ink glowing in a blacklight, (just a million times brighter). this car will in theory hum forever. even in the junk yard. so rather than make a car that has no chance to outlast its power source. just make a nuclear battery pack for all common electric cars as an option so it is more readily marketable and make are country the sole developer of safe consumer nuclear technology. theres the money for you! we could even let the oil companies sponsor the tec. development so they think there creating it then no one has to vanish.

[@truckcompany]

I'm embarrassed for The Young Turks research skills.

[@KJKP]

"And that waste isn't useful for making bombs." ... and there you go. That is why the US and Russia don't use cold fusion or this Thorium version. And, that is why Iran isn't going with Thorium, either.

[@quintespeed]

KnowJesusKnowPeace Awesome point. It's a window in their decision making process.

[@chrisjohnston2043]

KnowJesusKnowPeace Guys, this is bullshit. It's absolute horseshit, there is no way that this could ever work. You cannot convert thorium to high energy electromagnetic radiation directly, it's impossible. You'd need to convert the HEAT from the thorium into electricity, convert electricity into a laser and use that laser to heat the water to drive the car. All of this would lead to 1/8th the efficiency of just heating the water with thorium directly. FYI, the radiation from this would be lethal without 250 metric tonnes of lead shielding. I love how the media, like you idiots, just gulps this up. Thunderf00t did an excellent video on this, he is an actual physicist and explained why this is physically impossible.

[@rpdigital17]

And after car crash we will get a little nasty radioactive leakage? Well done!

[@thomasdissell9990]

not radioactive when it cools , out of a reactor that will be quick..

[@rpdigital17]

Are you kidding me? If you take radioactive material out of reactor, it becomes none radioactive? Really?

[@FuZionSniperzZ]

RPdigital Lel, dat guys an fool

[@cryptagion]

RPdigital If such a car crashed, and the reactor was made of paper as opposed to being made from something that might actually protect it, you can be certain the reactor and its contents would be secured to prevent environmental damage. You should instead be worrying about the thorium present in many consumer products already. In point of fact, radioactive materials are not uncommon in many industries, and most of them aren't wrapped up in a protective reactor.

[@cryptagion]

You wouldn't have much, that's for sure. I doubt they would bother putting in enough for a hundred years. It would be pretty pointless, after all. Single year doses would be enough to make sure the car ran fine for long periods, but there was never enough thorium in there to harm the environment even after a catastrophic failure of the containment.systems.

[@EnigmaHood]

Yeah and a nuclear toaster would toast 500,000,000 slices of bread, but why would you want one?

[@neephonephones9795]

+michktt yes I am starving

[@Tuppoo94]

Or just take the thorium and use it in nuclear power plants to produce electricity to power electric cars. At least then there isn't a risk of radiation being released in case of a car accident.

[@denisthefuzz]

Damn right. Imagine a world where everyone has a little nuclear power plant on wheels. What could go wrong ?

[@yoribasavatch4443]

Good point, however, producing batteries for electric cars creates a lot of pollution. I think this will work well with the introduction of Autonomous driving cars.

[@lunhil1264]

denisthefuzz It would put an end to road rage incidents and drivers would pay more attention to being safe on the road, like having Gort as a back seat driver.

[@denisthefuzz]

lunhil12 I have to admit you've got a point here

[@denisthefuzz]

***** I should have researched before opening my mouth... thanks for the info.

[@dmaster225]

Come on TyT do you ever watch other peoples videos on youtube? Stuff they dont want you to know already explained why they havent gone forward with thorium research.

[@Yasha277]

Thorium is real!? WORLD OF WARCRAFT WASN'T LYING TO ME!?

[@grubbl]

Tho i would not put on a armor made out of it ^-^

[@2xbassnmoshpits]

Argeneus Why not? It's perfectly safe. Thorium is every bit as innocuous as dirt, and is used in everyday applications such as gas burner mantles in gas lamps and as an additive to welding rods, to make welding easier. It's four times more plentiful than Uranium, and the guys who mine it don't have to don any sort of protective gear to mine it. It makes up a substantial portion of the earth's crust, and you're exposed to trace amounts of Thorium in the food you eat, the air you breathe, and the water you drink. Now would you put that armor on? XD

[@rajgill7576]

4:35 he was about to laugh but she cuts him off and he swallows laughter. literally. LOL

[@ineffableo.6992]

Wow. And once you couple this with the concepts of Nikola Tesla, and his efficient use of electricity, it really makes one wonder: why all these extra expenses!!

[@7Dimensi0ns]

because its good for making money for idiot owners of electricity companies, its all about the $$$

[@soldier4prophesy]

Theeeeere's the problem. Thorium waste isn't useful for making dirty bombs.

[@BraveCat9927]

why the fuck should we want to make bombs anyways?

[@soldier4prophesy]

Brave Cat Probably have to ask the people that are makin the bombs why they'd wanna make them. I don't wanna make bombs, I'd rather make beer in my basement.

[@crazyhamburger101]

My bullshit detector is going through the roof.

[@hinglemccringleberry149]

Why's that?

[@GeahkBurchill]

Hingle McCringleberry Look up a video by Thunderfoot where he debunks this car. (He works in Nuclear research)

[@hinglemccringleberry149]

Idk if he works in nuclear research, he works at a plant. I think he's missing the point that there are three different types of radiation: alpha, beta, and gamma. A piece of tin foil can block alpha and beta, just not gamma. And gamma is only created in certain reactions. A lot of nuclear decay reactions have either alpha or beta but no gamma. Also the laser thing that he says at the beginning he is comparing a laser that fires photons to this supposed laser that uses either alpha or beta radiation. Also the laser in the car isn't really a laser they are just capturing the energy of the reaction with water. Now I'm skeptical as to whether or not a car can get 200 horse power from the alpha or beta decay of that the thorium and that critical mass will be maintained for 100 years in 6 grams but a lot of that debunk video isn't quite accurate. He was right at calling the media's illiteracy though. Density isn't really important except for having critical mass in a smaller space and they are incorrect in saying "burning fuel" when really the fuel is being reacted. Technically burning (or combustion reaction) is actually a reduction reaction, but not nuclear decay.

[@hinglemccringleberry149]

***** You sure? If not then it wouldn't take much more than that. Most yes but there might be an isotope that doesn't. All I'm saying that unless you know for certain that every single possible decay reaction and every single different isotope will for sure produce gamma radiation then I wouldn't count the technology out immediately. The thing about new tech is that it pushes our understanding of things.

[@hinglemccringleberry149]

Right but that doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible to utilize a reaction that doesn't create gamma radiation. That only means a process like that hasn't been fully explored. I'm skeptical about the 200 horsepower for 100 years as well but I would not be so quick to call it bull. When the first computer came out people never thought it could get much smaller than a room but now we have tiny laptops and phones that completely defy that notion.

[@melissarmt7330]

I've seen the documentary on Thorium. If it wasn't such a threat to big energy, why was it squashed by the US government? It's exciting to see people who are so passionate about alternative renewable energy.

[@VagueMemory]

Now Thorium will become so expensive that it will be out of the reach for the middle class. There is no way that the major corporations who profit from oil will ever allow that profit to be jeopardized unless they have control and can profit from the new fuel being used.

[@BaSsGaZ]

"allow" it ?? WTF can they do if people stopped using oil ??

[@CrudelyDone]

***** I do believe lobbyists, corporate biased laws, and federal regulation would come into play to keep the majority of America harnessed on fossil fuels.

[@AndrewDodson_AdamsAtoms]

***** thanks man. It is so hard trying to spread the truth of this word. So MANY people are honestly decieved and just dont have the immediate capacity to discern the lies... how to we help them understand when the opposition is so great? Is truth alone going to gain us victory?

[@AndrewDodson_AdamsAtoms]

I agree with what you are saying. It is hard to see the good for all the bad sometimes though...

[@DanzigDanne]

Instead of referring to an old documentary the Turks should try a google search... and if so then maybe, just maybe, they would discover that a large thoriumreator already has started in Norway as late as this summer, and that both China and Japan is on the way with new ones... But of course that would be too good to be true, huh! Or maybe not?

[@thebeyblademaniac]

3:30 The subtitles for me said - 'The company has been experimenting with small bits of South Korea' Lol :L

[@thebeyblademaniac]

***** Wait, why do you think it's dubious to run a car on Thorium?

[@fizz113]

Where exactly are you going to get Thorium from?

[@mandowarrior123]

This is a liquid metal reactor, yes? The kind that can't be turned off because they solidify and can't be turned back on? And direct steam power is a very odd choice, more likely a steam generator powers cells for an electric motor in my view. Still, trains sound like a much more viable medium. Steam power is efficient moving large mass, the weight of the shielding isn't really an issue when on a train. Generally steam is high torque, low acceleration. Not really appropriate for a car?

[@NickRock]

Radioactive but interesting. #future ?

[@NaydenSpirdonov]

Check your sorces

[@eden7010]

Check your grammar

[@MohammedYASSINE]

sources are more important

[@JoseVazquez-jw5yp]

Everything Explained check your eyes, his grammar is fine he just misspelled a word

[@ru8605]

Thank you, Ana!

[@TheInfamousWolf]

Why aren't we Funding this !!!

[@CptMole]

Because it's not profitable.

[@TheInfamousWolf]

Still it's amazing and where it's not profitable or not it can eliminate so many problems. Fuck money i want this planet to live and us as well.

[@nliebert41]

TheInfamousWolf say it louder, not all of us heard you, and some did but ignored you.

[@pele1281]

It's too efficient. Not enough money.

[@ocksee]

Also the decision to crush thorium and go uranium was made back during World War 2. Thorium doesn't blow up, so the US talked up how wonderfully safe uranium was and now here we are with uranium reactors. Are thorium reactors actually better? Look at countries that are just starting their nuclear program (ie India), what do you know, its 100% Thorium reactors in their plans

[@MidniteClubII]

So dude.. you say Jesus will not save the world... muhammad will? and Do you pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all? or NOT..

[@adrianschuurmans]

You guys should try putting those words into action.... liberty and justice for all hahahahahaha

[@Zimmermania]

It is technically impossible from what I have read from nuclear physicists.

[@Zimmermania]

I read up and a lot of good science debunks this. I could be wrong! Isn't it the coolest looking Cadi EVER?

[@elnidodelmuerto]

Not really impossible, just impractical by the means they want to do it by. The technology they want to use would be incredibly impractical. For instance the laser they want to use would sorta work but it needs a lot of power to charge up. What this most likely is, is a scheme to scam investors who don't understand science.

[@Zimmermania]

It's called doing research and avoiding new real technologies while casting an illusion of doing so. It's total BS from GM. They want us on oil never to transition regardless of what nonsense they hurl at us to make us believe we are going in that direction.

[@elnidodelmuerto]

***** Well actually the company making the car is not at all related to GM. The Cadillac model they have up there has nothing to do with the Th car. The Th car doesn't look like that. I don't know why they had a Cadillac concept model. But yeah Laser Power Systems (the car company making the Th car) has nothing to do with GM. So yeah.

[@commonman80]

***** Yep. Car Manufacturers don't want people to get off of Oil. Because if Car and Truck engines ran off of NONE CARBON PRODUCING ENERGY, The Car companies WOULD LOSE BILLIONS. Elaboration. It's the Carbon from burnt fuel that destroys engines and engine parts. Electric motors can last DECADES LONGER than Motors run by fuel. Think of it like this. Buying a 60 year old electric drill. That Electric Drill will work as well today, as it did when it was new. Compared to a 60 year old Gas Motor. Because of the carbon, The motor will start to break down from rust and start to disintegrate. You would literally have to rebuild the engine...

[@xparade0de]

No it is a radioactive Salt and it is agressiv and when used in reactors it makes radioactive gases: Xenon, Krypton or Tritium - causing paneumonia. The problem is that it destroys the metals. The car in the photo is not a Thorium car. 3:33 Laser that heats water ? what is she talking about ? This is not Thorium salt on the picture.

[@2skyland]

What about just riding a bike?

[@CHRISTIANNWO]

What if you get in a car wreck and get exposed to nuclear power???

[@ThaRealERAQ]

U would gain hulk like powers!

[@ThaRealERAQ]

ThaRealERAQ or possibly Thor like powers!

[@elnidodelmuerto]

The radiation being emitted by the thorium would be less deadly than laying on a beach sun tanning. So yeah.

[@CameronBoothCboo]

This question is retarded.

[@Mogget01]

a little bunny crushed this lie with logic

[@ProfezorSnayp]

Aaaahahahaha I see what you did there ^_^

[@Grunchy005]

So did anybody ever make the prototype? Or was it always just pie-in-the-sky fantasy nonsense.