2020 Land Rover Defender 110 P400 S In-depth Off-Road Review | CarAdvice

[@kmuinde]

We all take a minute to appreciate how beautiful Australia is, beautiful scenes

[@ianfarr-wharton1000]

lol, the spot were he was in Australia is bigfoot and black panther country .lol Big fish in that dam, don't get busted fishing here, they will take you away..

[@sanatandharma4435]

Wow! What a vehicle! At 19mins I felt the relief as you made it up that incline. Well done to you all!

[@dukemasterpro]

decent hill to test it on! did that in a D3 a few years back. well done guys with the test.

[@fvlok]

And the check engine light remained off? I am amazed 😆 Imagine the depreciation of this heap.

[@petermorris3665]

Could be worse - I had a Toyota 1996 Rav4 - Biggest pile of dangerously under-engineered rubbish I have ever owned. Traded it in for my Landrover Freelander 2 / LR2, which is still going strong😊

[@MichaelMiller-rg6or]

They probably disconnect the check engine light on press cars.

[@davemandaro2138]

A popular reviewers team bought one and in the first 24 days it was in the LR dealer shop for 20 days, last time I checked it was still there, they can’t figure out why the check engine light is on ! Seriously!

[@dadventuretv2538]

As a current LR4/Disco 4 owner with the HD package, I can say that this is the Disco 5 all of us Disco 4 owners wanted. If you go spec by spec it is a Disco 4 upgraded (or retrofitted as the case may be- like the swinging door with mounted spare and Alpine windows which were also on the Disco 1 and 2, not just the Defender). And since I take my LR4 offroad I already know how good this Defender will be. It won’t do it like the old one, or like a Jeep, but it will go about 90% of the places the others will go. Traction and clearance and angles will be just as good, only downside will be articulation will not be as good, especially in the front. The one thing that pisses me off are those 20 in wheels- same issue with the LR4. You can get 18s on the 4 banger but not the six- allegedly the reason is the same as my LR4- the brake calibers. Compomotive UK make 18 in wheels for the LR4 that require no spacers or other mods to fit over the brake calibers, so I assume they’ll do the same for the Defender. With those wheels and a lift (like Johnson Rods) you should be able to fit 33s with no space issues and no trimming, and with that you would have 7.5 inches of sidewall which should be ample for airing down more. I’m waiting to see ARB’s aftermarket bumper for the Defender. With an ARB bumper and winch and 18s with 33s (or maybe even a bit bigger) this will be a very good machine offroad and great on road driver. For someone looking for a load it up (the payload and towing are amazing), go anywhere, do anything vehicle that will also be a daily, where driving long distances will be required, but you’ll never be too far from civilization (cause I’m not sure I’d want to be in the middle of Africa with a veh this electronic), this will be a great option. It really is hitting the niche that the Disco 1 aimed to hit and LR has moved ever further from that niche since the Disco 1 with the Disco 5 really no monger hitting that sale niche. I think with this they are back. They seem to have foregone the niche that the Defender hit- the utilitarian, more hardcore old school offroader, but with Defender becoming a family now not just one veh who knows if maybe they will build something like Grenadier in the future. In my opinion the Disco 5 should have been a Range Rover (the more family oriented Range Rover than either the daddy or the Sport), this Defender should have been the Disco 5, and they should have replaced the Defender with something like the Grenadier. Then they could have decided whether to have the Velar or the Evoque, but I wouldn’t have both. But hey, I dont run JLR so wtf do I know. Btw- when you were running out of clearance, if it is like the LR4 which I believe it is, there is an extra level of clearance. Only to be used to clear an obstacle because you will have air sus maxed out and thus no articulation. In my LR4 I access it by, when you were high centered or nearly so, lowering the sus. It will then hit and raise up into full height giving you additional clearance compared to offroad height. Clear the obstacle, then put it back into offroad height and carry on.

[@aidancameron9203]

A Disco 3 or 4 will go much better/further offroad then a standard Defender any day... As long as your willing to take it.

[@Douganchesner]

Aidan Cameron no it won’t. I have an LR3 and a 2021 Defender. The Defender is a better off-roader even though the LR3 is no slouch. I’m guessing you have no defender experience.

[@aaronadkins8234]

People need to stop bothering with the comments about TFL. Its just one example of a car with a warning light on. And TFL is milking it for all its worth to get youtube views. Give this vehicle a chance, its really a great vehicle.

[@mtadc1545]

I totally get if it’s one issue, but JLRs customer service with them resonates with a lot of owners who have made complains of being treated like crap.

[@micmurray8944]

Thanks Sam and Car Advice. Great review. I prefer and will.stick by my 2019 Disco ! Biggest problem with the LJR New Defender and New Discovery is a well established 4x4 aftermarket ! Keep up the informative reviews and technology in the 4x market. Mic M GCoast AU

[@rpm6085]

Best review I've seen yet. You actually know what you're talking about and can explain how the car is designed to be used. First time I've heard the bonnet chequer-plate is for pedestrian safety.

[@aaddrryyss1803]

That explanation was off. JLR wanted the plates there to evoque the old car. They couldn't have them metallic, though (risk of pedestrian decapitation / impalement or something). So they went with plastic, completely missing the utilitarian trait of the predecessors. They basically look like something that used to actually do something. I wish they could be spec-ed out...

[@robmacca67]

Not a Defender Replacement - more a Discovery Replacement...

[@lincolnshirepoacher894]

Discovery is actually better. It has a proper chassis underneath.

[@craigdavid6668]

Ironically, if you buy either, you will need a replacement within a year.

[@sabakimedia4370]

There’s a channel called CO TRAILS (link below), mates with TFL, he’s put a 2” lift on his as well using a company called Lucky 8 to down grade the brakes on the P400 so he can fit 18” with 33’s, he gives the new defender a good work out too somewhere in Colorado, he either owns or works at LR dealership too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHSopqyZiZKdj7M

[@faridjahanshahi250]

Nice video , very impressive defender and good clime more than of the jeep,please compere defender and wrangler

[@andrewvanstaden8922]

Please show me the s that chassis starts with? And any z in the word? Please man, it’s chassis not shazzy.

[@capsize72]

With the Defender SE you can only get 19’s or 20’s. Would 19’s been better than the 20’s if 18’s is not an option? Great video, best coverage of off road footage! Thank you

[@mark2073]

The biggest issue with these things will be reliability. If you can't rely on it out there then all those features don't mean a danm thing. Initial reports are not good.

[@aniruddhapardeshi6922]

Technology laden garbage.

[@dutchydownunder5634]

FINALLY a decent off road review, and the final push I needed to order myself one specifically for off roading and overlanding around Australia.

[@Dead_on_Arrival.]

Me: Readies Money Also Me: Watches The Fast Lane Showing multiple warning lights after fixing for first and second time Also also Me: Sees how Land Rover lie Me: Keeps the money and buys another

[@sanmicol]

Read the Fast lane car and see there experience never buy the first of a new model🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@petermorris3665]

Those cowboys did not read the manual for the running in period. They broke many requirements, including no excessive revving and no off-roading in the first 2,000 miles. Good for their view count!

[@justinsnyder2373]

Haha yeah that’s an excellent sample size for statistics, because one owner’s example after not following the break in to get as much attention as possible is always the most important and accurate. Surely they couldn’t be biased or trying to get more views or subs playing on the consumers preconceived bias? No way, couldn’t be. I’ve spoken to over 30 elated new owners who have not had a problem other than delays for accessories due to high demand and Covid.

[@petermorris3665]

@JF I've got 2 Landrovers thanks - Both on 100.000 miles and both owned over 10 years. One was bought when I traded in a Toyota (1996 Rav 4) - biggest piece of unreliable and dangerously under-engineered rubbish I have ever owned.

[@petermorris3665]

@JF Its interesting because I read the EU safety recalls for cars every single week as part of my job and there are hardly ever any JLR products on there!

[@Meowingtiger]

@@petermorris3665 they are on their third Defender now. None of the other cars they have tested breaks down so easely as the defender.

[@yengsabio5315]

The interior is truly neat! Very likable, indeed! But since it's an all-new Defender, we don't know if it will be a reliable vehicle over-all. But in time, we'll all see.

[@nnoddy8161]

Great review. I am an 'old' Defender owner (the current one is my 3rd). I do not like the whole strategy and thinking of JLR with the new 'Defender' - at all. Having said that, its capability (when brand new and under warranty) is without question. I just don't believe, give LR's durability/reliability that it will be commercially sensible to keep one of these vehicles on the road, much beyond its warranty period. 85 ECUs is just asking for trouble, I'll just leave this here for people to make up their own minds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3zCYapojbmmqrM The price at $120,000 is just a complete ^%$-take by JLR. No ute also shows their true cards in terms of who this vehicle is aimed at. Would love to see a proper offroad comparison between the new Defender, a doubled-locked 'old' 110. I cannot wait for the Ineos Grenadier.

[@mtadc1545]

You’ve spoken about things that reviewers like this guy are paid not to talk about.

[@nnoddy8161]

@@mtadc1545 He went pretty close, but unfortunately CarAdvice is owned by car retailers who are only interested in selling new cars. In the millions of words written by this publication, they rarely cover reliability or durability of vehicles or warranty claims. The DPF issues of the Hilux/Prado are one case in point.

[@mtadc1545]

@@nnoddy8161 yeah, I’m well aware of that. It’s why I’d only trust reviews from someone like 4xOverland. Land Rover at one point didn’t allow him to review the disco 3 after he criticised the Disco 2

[@sameeragayan9092]

Finally a proper 4wd review of an awesome 4wd. Not taking a 4wd and reviewing it like a road car like how fast it goes from 0-100 . Also mt walker is proper challenge , nice review all

[@JettoGospel]

Have you brought it back to the dealership yet?

[@tonybooth4]

lol ask the TFL guys

[@mobiusalpha]

Great review! Nice job capturing and conveying the steepness of the hill challenge. Seeing competitive vehicles going over the same, or similar obstacles, is much appreciated. Especially nice job covering the third row seating which most other reviews just gloss over. Very helpful and thanks!

[@TheFuzzAxel]

We've just tested a 1,5h drive with 6 persons in the 110 Defender without problems. Also the 3th row seat was okay for my brother in law who's 1,74m tall. He did had to find a way to find some comfortable legroom but nothing to big of a problem, he said. We're happy.

[@23DuDe]

Wow! 50% of those options should come standard, and the rest for half the listed price. I reckon this model is going to be a great secondhand pickup at less than half the price in 2-3 years. When I test drove a couple of them, they didn't feel like nearly 300kw or 550Nm

[@nnoddy8161]

You won't be able to afford it once it is out of warranty. The cost of replacing 85 ECUs, their sensors and airbags will send you broke.

[@jeffreyday7533]

Probably the most balanced review about the new Defender ,no over the top comments .Im very impressed and just seeing the new Defer in the flesh last week It ticks alot of the right boxes.Being a Defender and Toyota driver Landrover had to do what needed to be done update.Im waiting to see the lower spec hardtop 90 as that looks the goods for me and my wife.Dont get me wrong I still love my Defender 90 to bits but it to has got alot of electronics due to being the tdci but nowhere as much as the new Defender I know.

[@kennylee1862]

The options list sounds like the whole car is an option.

[@paulfellows2535]

Which vehicles aren’t these days?

[@gc2234]

That hill climb was bloody impressive. Great video.

[@martiniv8924]

Impressive, what’s not is (a) price (b) electronics (ask TFL) (c) see ‘a’ who wants to beat the pi*8 out of an 85K car 🤪

[@HKFIJIHK]

Those who buy a new land cruiser?

[@martiniv8924]

@@HKFIJIHK maybe , maybe not 🤔 I was never inclined to do that in 4x4’s costing north of 60k in the past, with one exception, an H2.

[@HKFIJIHK]

@@martiniv8924 I agree with you on that. For me I'd love to off road in a new vehicle. But then again buying a cheaper one because you know it'll get beat up will save for those clinch cheeks when you scrape the new paint 😔

[@mauriciogutierrez580]

Why don’t you do everyone a favor and hide the new one while reviewing exhaustively the old one? Thank you

[@PaddyBoy644]

I know these videos are meant to be informative but they should be entertaining as well and this guy seems like he’s just reading off of cards the whole video.

[@Brendapaola99]

Was it me or did the tires seem a little bit out of air?

[@craigice9635]

They were aired down.

[@jeffstryker1454]

You need to take air out for off roading.

[@kerrykonigs135]

Excellent assessment of a brand new car that we all know will be a pile of unreliable junk in 4 years time.

[@nnoddy8161]

totally, they are impossible to keep on the road much beyond warranty given the costs associated. They are made for landfill 10 years after being made, unlike the old Defender.

[@aidanwilson6035]

I'm sure you know best despite the fact that there are thousands of Land Rovers still in daily use that are 50 , 60 or even 70 years old still on the road around the world many of which have been involved in extreme off-roading , can't say that for any other vehicle ever made !.

[@nnoddy8161]

@@aidanwilson6035 oh dear...I currently own a 110 Defender (2001 model). Have now owned 4 Land Rovers over almost 30 years of motoring. The new vehicles are rubbish, complete rubbish in terms of being able to maintain and keep them on the road. Unless you have extraordinary deep pockets, the cost of maintaining them is excessive, to the point where the parts exceed their residual value. Land Rover is not the business of making cars that are capable of being kept on the road, unlike the old Defender. That pretty much ended with the Discovery 3 and 4.

[@aidanwilson6035]

@@nnoddy8161 To be fair , there are practically no new vehicles that can be properly maintained by their owners with all the excessive electronics these days and all the premium manufacturers cost a lot to look after , i guess you are such a fanatic of the original with all it's flaws that whatever JLR was going to produce , it would never suit your requirements , like it or not , the vast majority want most of the gadgets !.

[@nnoddy8161]

@@aidanwilson6035 mate, JLR should not have called it a 'Defender' because it bears none of the character traits that the original Series/Defenders had. Unfortunately, after having owned 4 Land Rovers in over 30 years, there is nothing in their current range that I would go anywhere near. That said, I cannot wait for the Ineos Grenadier - this is what the Defender replacement should have been. Agree that modern vehicles are strong on electronics - the last Defenders had ECUs - just not 85 of them like the current Defender. Grenadier, Jimny, Wrangler, W461 G-wagen all show that you can build a relatively simple, extremely capable and durable 4WD, as opposed to a SUV.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

Great review. Car advice shows real off road tests. I know these can be had with rear lockers, I didn't catch if this one had it though. I also appreciate all the time stamps as well.

[@dutchydownunder5634]

They can't be had with lockers as such, it's electronically simulated.

[@aaronadkins8234]

@@dutchydownunder5634 there's a rear locker available for this. Similar design to the one available for the discovery 4.

[@dutchydownunder5634]

@@aaronadkins8234 Can you explain how that works? I was told it is a locker in software only...

[@aaronadkins8234]

@@dutchydownunder5634 it has a center locker of course, and it has the option of a rear diff locker. They are automatically engaged and disengaged based on wheel slippage and both can act as limited slip diffs instead of simply open or locked, which can be advantageous in some circumstances. However if you opt for the configurable terrain response package, it allows some control over when the rear and center diff locks engage and allows for preset programs combining settings of diff lockers and throttle controls. The front has no diff lock option at the moment. There is some trickery in the traction control system that, using the front brakes, simulates a locker in the front. Hopefully a third party company will produce a front diff lock option in the future

[@dutchydownunder5634]

@@aaronadkins8234 very interesting and contrary to what I was explained. Which is that the wheels are not physically connected to each other. The drive train runs all wheels individually (hence why it's called AWD) and software acts like a centre and rear locker. Like an off-road traction control if you will. Will have to call a different dealership to see if they can explain it and see if they say the same thing.

[@ahh1180]

At $126k yeah no thanks

[@markfenton732]

Excellent review and great footage of its off-road prowess. With regard to comments from some watchers re gremlins on new defenders, there are many many examples of gremlins with new SUV’s of other makes. My new Landcruiser had engine overheating problems, Aircon cutting out amongst other issues. The point is that LR are pushing 4x4 design forward, and I am sure that the other makes will end up following suit. I intend to buy a new defender (with 18 inch tires), and I am sure that having got used to the standard of driveability, interior design AND off-road capability of this car it will be hard to step back in time to the more popular suvs like Toyota, Nissan etc. 👍

[@StephenFogarty2023]

Exactly. Well said. 100 % correct. This Defender is a totally new model. I am only aware of rare minor issues affecting some new Defenders. Within the next 6 to 12 months , LR will sort out these things. It is a great vehicle, and I do hope that LR rectify any issues ASAP, and that this new Defender is a reliable vehicle.

[@charlesmckibbin5607]

Was ATPC or Terrain Response 2 used or tested during this review?

[@gadgetphilosophy8290]

When working. These things are amazing. By far best clearance of all vehicles. Except maybe the new Nissan as it also has independent suspension. Give it time. Landcruiser will follow suit. It’s just superior overall. Nice track width. Good stability. Great platform.

[@-A.n.d.r.e.w-]

@War.L _ yeah, that's not true.

[@-A.n.d.r.e.w-]

@War.L _ right. Stop trying to pick a fight I won't take your bait. Your comment that the Defender is superior in only comfort is simply not correct. It has the very best electronic traction control available, some of the best, if not the best clearance angles of a vehicle in its class, it's off road capability far exceeds any other vehicles with the same suspension set-up and is better than many with more "off-road acceptable" set ups. Pick any IFS ute and the Defender will spank it off road, no question. You are entitled to your opinion, but it is not correct.

[@-A.n.d.r.e.w-]

@War.L _ Oh so you are capable of a reasonably logical discussion, not just slinging mild abuse… The only reason the G-wagon climbs without spinning wheels is because of the lockers. That’s not traction control, but let’s not be too picky, I agree, lockers beat traction control every time but, ignoring the lockers, as I said, there is none better than Land Rover when it comes to traction control. Now, IFS, I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the Bronco. I’d rate that over the Defender but it’s not coming to Oz and I said any IFS ute… No not just the ‘ol yank pickup, or Falcon/Commodores. I’m talking the number one selling 4x4 class in Australia of which the Defender will be better, unless you consider the Ranger Raptor which has the benefit of twin lockers, suspension lift and 33s from the factory. But I’m ignoring that because it’s technically modified (though I reckon the Defender would give it a run for its money). I’ll give you a point for the FJ cruiser - that’s a decent, capable car. But the Defender has more ground clearance, better approach and departure angles (childishness alert!), better wade depth, better traction control. Both can be had with a rear locker which leaves the only advantage of the FJ being possibly better rear wheel articulation with the solid axle. That and the fact that you can decently modify it like the Prado… Oh, and by the way, a 2 inch lift and 33’s on an FJ cruiser still leaves it with 115mm less wading depth than the New Defender stock ;) And how can you call approach, departure and ramp over irrelevant? It’s certainly not irrelevant to the Gladiator that’s, like, half a meter longer than a Defender 130 and will put its belly on the ground at every opportunity. Yes, you can modify cars which reduces the importance of these angles but they still define what makes up a good off-road platform. Having said all that, I would be the first to stand up and say that since you can hardly modify it, the Defender has lost its essence, but we’ve gone waaay off track here. The whole point is that you made an open ended pointless comment that the Defender is only superior in comfort. Which, by your logic is wrong because the G Wagon is at least as good in that department. Then I called you out and you laugh and try to insult me so I gave some points to qualify my position. To this you again try to insult me (maybe try being nice to people?) but at least now you’ve decided to make a point. Oh, and one more thing, the new Patrol is independent all round, but I’d still call the defender better :)

[@unpluggedkiwi2699]

@War.L _ And who in their right mind is going to take a G-Wagon off road. Compared to the G-Wagon, the price of the Defender is a bargain. And the G-Wagon has known issues with the axle diff locks not switching on when required.

[@-A.n.d.r.e.w-]

@War.L _ Nah mate, not "given up" just got better things to do with my time. I'ma make this simple for you since your keen to swing whatever way you want and call it proving your point. As I said before, this whole thing got started because you said the Defender is superior in comfort and nothing else. That's just not true - it is a very impressive, very capable 4WD and is more capable than many other available 4WDs. Look, even AsPW agrees with me (on 4Xoverland, lol): kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5nFgn6dpd1gjMU at the 5 minute mark. Let me quote for you: "It is an exceptional off road vehicle... Terrain Response is an exceptional traction control system". Nuff said? Nah, of course not. Why don't I rant a little more? That's very nice for you that you grew up with a Defender and had wonderful experienced of traveling and exploring and getting in touch with the "soul" of the vehicle. For me it was a 1985 County and a surprisingly similar story. Yes, simplicity is key in a RELIABLE off road vehicle but that's not the point of the debate here. The point is weather the new Defender is any good at anything other than cruising the mall and breaking down and the simple answer is YES, obviously. Anything else is adapting you're point to say something else in an effort to be right. And you know what? We probably agree on much of it. Do I love the new Defender? No. Do I think it's up to the kind of 4x4 I want to do? No. Do I feel let down by the idiots and marketing department at Land Rover? yes. Is the Defender really a new Defender? No - it's a great Discovery. But is it a significantly capable 4x4? Absolutely yes. So was the Disco 4. Is it the best at everything? No. But it does do a lot of stuff very well. Oh, one more lill tid bit: I'd still rate the new Defender over the FJ Cruiser in every way except reliability (which is yet to be truly proven - every new product has teething issues at release). What else ya got?

[@kieron3676]

Not a fan of the vehicle. But an honest review of it's off road capabilities. Still wouldn't want it as a present.

[@tonym7434]

The problem is the price and the fit for function, at 120k you can get a hyundai santa fe as the family run about and still have change to buy a Nissan patrol for the hardcore weekend trailwork.

[@xjcxjc222]

who can offer 120k， they might have another C63 for the daily drive

[@chanceym6000]

Completely agree... I don't know why we don't see more 55k-65k Defenders... they are so much better off-road because of the 18 inch wheels

[@88mtb88]

One of the best new Land Rover reviews I have seen

[@operation4wheelz]

That is NOT a defender

[@beaviccoon470]

Yes it is land rover themselves say so and it managed to get up that hill that very few stock vehicles have ever gotten up.

[@nnoddy8161]

@@beaviccoon470 Lets see if it can still do it in about 5 years time?? The TFL Defender cannot seem to get out the dealership after only 120 miles (24 days old and spent 21 of those at the dealer trying to be fixed). kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3zCYapojbmmqrM

[@beaviccoon470]

@@nnoddy8161 ye it's a shame that the tfl defender is having so many issues but it could be the p300 petrol because I've seen quite a few p300 defenders going into dealerships to be fixed. I would have thought that the p400 petrols would be the most unreliable engine set up but I guess not. The diesels seem ok but I don't know about the 3 litre 6 cylinder diesels bit they haven't come out yet. Also the disco 3 and 4 are still going strong, yes I know that they would have had many new parts over the years but then again most cars will. Also with modern cars I think that people keep them for only a couple of years at most then they just move on. But the old defender when ever you see one it's just cool and they're really fun to ride in but I don't think that the government's want us to have fun. Still could be worse.😂

[@II-yd6gx]

Really good technical terrain to test this car, good job! It’s an awesome car, but JLR have a lot of skeletons in the closet and the sticker price is hard to accept. Only a back to back heavy duty long term test doing all the most challenging outback treks will finally prove if this car is a match for a Toyota or Isuzu.

[@benjaminwright6922]

How does a Land Rover Defender cost 126k...... Can get a great spec 7 seater Discovery for that cash

[@dur8349]

TOTALLY agree Benjamin, at that price, you could get 'rocket Rod' to put an auto trans in a 79ser, it would be a better vehicle and you'd have money left over

[@JimmyjimmyJimmyjimmy-ih3yd]

After watching TFL, it looks like recent owners of this marque are having to go to lengths ‘above and beyond’ to deal with problems with near new, barely run in cars. If this band were serious about shedding their poor reliability /great design image, they should offer a 7 to 10 year warranty on their cars.

[@aidanwilson6035]

TFL are just continually repeating and exaggerating the same old story to get extra views , for some reason viewers love when things go 'wrong' as videos can get hundreds of thousands of extra views , it was just a warning light , the vehicle did not break down , it is a solenoid issue that will take longer to fix as the model is brand new and parts are not fully available , just like virtually every other manufacturer when a brand new model comes out , most have minor issues that need fixing !.

[@drew7765]

@@aidanwilson6035 I would expect a new vehicle to work flawlessly for a while before any warning lights come on, regardless of make. If you find warning lights of any kind acceptable on day 1, then more power and heartache to you.

[@aidanwilson6035]

@@drew7765 These days warning lights come on far more frequently from most manufacturers , the trouble is it might be a temporary glitch that goes away once you restart the engine or it could be a serious mechanical issue , for the record , warning lights did come on shortly after i bought a brand new car , i never got in touch with the dealer about it , 20 years later i still have the car which has only needed routine maintenance.

[@mtadc1545]

@@aidanwilson6035 maybe you can say that some new vehicles will have issues. But the way JLR have treated them is typical of JLR and resonates with other JLR customers that have had problems. JLR themsevles still haven’t been able to able to work out the problem and they’re not even giving them a proper loan car or haven’t even offered a full refund whilst they sort out the fault car. Poor poor customer service.

[@aidanwilson6035]

@@mtadc1545 TFL have actually said that they have received great service from their local dealer who have contacted them every day to keep them updated , they never talked about a loan vehicle , how do you know nothing was offered ???? , surely that is standard procedure when a new car is faulty , TFL said they have plenty of vehicles to choose from , so if you use some common sense , they must of declined the offer.

[@Cooliemasteroz]

That proves it really is good off road.

[@dadventuretv2538]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHSopqyZiZKdj7M

[@dadventuretv2538]

@War.L _ sharing for those who havent seen it. This is a great vid on its capabilities, so is that one. Why the attitude? It wasnt even a reply to you, it was for the original poster in case he wanted to see more vids on its capabilities.

[@Okayokayshane]

Not a true defender and even more unreliable then the old ones fuck that

[@croydonq135]

Good update of a great car, awesome review. I think the reality is most of these are going to be slaying drive thru cafes on the black top 80 % of the time or more

[@matthewschiebout7384]

80% on the black top, 19% in the shop, 1% off road.

[@seanhine6929]

One of these would be more appealing at about $20k less than the sticker price. I’m not sure who they are targeting at current pricing.

[@kieron3676]

The rich kids in Melbourne and Sydney ;)

[@dutchydownunder5634]

You can get the diesel on steel wheels starting at $79k sans options. Add around $5 for all the off road options and you're done.

[@craigice9635]

@@dutchydownunder5634 So therefore its not a real offroader if you still have to spend on off road options. Its as bad as a 70 series then.

[@dutchydownunder5634]

@@craigice9635 what are you smoking? Those are factory options. The only other care that is as capable right off the showroom floor is a Wrangler Rubicon, you won't see a LandCruiser do this in stock trim.

[@dadventuretv2538]

@@craigice9635 that is the dumbest comment ever. Anyone who offroads their veh will do some mods. So by your definition the Jeep Wrangler Sport is nit a real offroader stock- terrible tires, no lockers, not even rear. At a minimum you have to put better tires on that, probably bigger ones too with a lift. And a rear aftermarket locker is smart if you are going to do any real offroading with it.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Anyone here after watching TFL reviews? Thier Defnder has been in the shop almost a month and still no signs of being repaired by LR. This Defender is junk.

[@aidanwilson6035]

TFL are just continually repeating and exaggerating the same old story to get extra views , for some reason viewers love when things go 'wrong' as videos can get hundreds of thousands of extra views , it was just a warning light , the vehicle did not break down , it is a solenoid issue that will take longer to fix as the model is brand new and parts are not fully available , just like virtually every other manufacturer when a brand new model comes out , most have minor issues that need fixing !.

[@MohammadKhan-nb5xl]

Too much electronics...too expensive.. nissan patrol will be much more sensible option..( though i cant afford any of those)

[@Ta50039]

First decent review I've seen doing really good off-road assessments. Great work.

[@Drivecomau]

Thanks Troy

[@dadventuretv2538]

This is a great review. But check out channel of link below if you want to see what one with a couple mods can do. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHSopqyZiZKdj7M

[@debasishghoshsays]

@@dadventuretv2538 great vid bruv

[@greysonvan2637]

sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot the account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

[@jazielpaxton3058]

@Greyson Van Instablaster :)

[@Andre-hi9xn]

To go off road with this new Land Rover, you need two things: 1. put 16 rims and good off-road tyres. 2. read the instruction manual carefully. Then, it's better than the old man to defend at all levels.

[@dutchydownunder5634]

16 inch wheels don't fit because the brakes are too big.

[@Andre-hi9xn]

@@dutchydownunder5634 MY BAD, I wanted to write 18!

[@dadventuretv2538]

Yup. 18s with something like Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx in 33s would be dead on. and once you learn how to use it it’s a piece of cake. Low range and aired down you’ll be able walk it up or down anything.

[@Andre-hi9xn]

@@dadventuretv2538 My wife has with BF at, it is the best car that Land Rover manufactured, just know how to read and understand the instruction manual, now, this is not for everyone! Who hates Land Rover, doesn't like this new model, but curiously, loves the transmission that Land Rover developed with ZF 10 years ago, for their cars, today used for example in FORD... THEY LIKE!

[@ronstopfer2315]

Unbelievable road to get up to the top with. I honestly didn’t think it would make it. Salute, LRD!

[@Bobisuruncle54]

Hands down this is the best review of the Defender I've seen yet - concise, informative, just the right amount of on road testing with a great off road test and honest, unbiased judgement about its capabilities and limitations. I think the only thing I would've liked to have seen is how it handles boggy terrain, but as a complete off road novice I'm not really in a place to comment on that. I imagine that hillclimb is a far harder test than anything I'd ever be willing to throw at it.

[@Drivecomau]

Thanks happy you liked it!

[@Spac8]

Thank you for finally giving a really honest review of its off-road capability without it being an advert. You have gained a sub. Best video I have seen on the Defender.

[@minato450]

You know the new defender is just as or more capable as the old defender both on and offroad trails when caradvicd shows you. I only trust the Aussies when kt comes to proper offroad car reviews. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@kieron3676]

Then watch TFL's review of the Defender. Wouldn't feel comfortable taking it to remote areas after that.

[@aidanwilson6035]

@@kieron3676 TFL are just continually repeating and exaggerating the same old story to get extra views , for some reason viewers love when things go 'wrong' as videos can get hundreds of thousands of extra views , it was just a warning light , the vehicle did not break down , it is a solenoid issue that will take longer to fix as the model is brand new and parts are not fully available , just like virtually every other manufacturer when a brand new model comes out , most have minor issues that need fixing !.

[@Clove_Parma]

@@aidanwilson6035 that isn’t true, they don’t know what it is. What are you JLR PR team? Land Rover literally sent someone out from the UK to try fix it, and it’s been in the shop for 20 of the 24 days they have owned it. JLR thought it was solenoid but it wasn’t, and still can’t fix it. You don’t drive a brand new car if it has the check engine light, because yes you absolutely could damage it. Seriously you must be JLR staff or a fanboy idiot if you don’t think it’s a serious issue. For your reference under consumer law in Colorado US, a car has to be in the workshop for warranty repairs for a minimum of 30 days of the first year to make a lemon law claim. It’s now a 24 day old car, and it’s been in for 2/3 of the time required to claim it. Oh and you are ignoring that the cameras all stopped working too. Do you seriously think a car that has functioned that way will not be in the shop for 10 days for warranty repairs in the next 11 months? Seriously stop covering for bullshit by a company that doesn’t care about you, or their customers, putting out vehicles clearly before they’re ready.

[@Clove_Parma]

@@aidanwilson6035 that said, if these issues are fixed, in a few years you bet I’d consider a defender 90

[@aidanwilson6035]

@@Clove_Parma It is always going to be a bit risky being a first adopter as most brand new models have issues and even recalls in the first year or so , just goes to prove that we rely too much on complex electronics these days !.

[@chrisandshazza01]

Given the amount of big tyres rutting out more and more of our tracks I’d take the independent suspension anyday over live. Beautiful rig. I reckon LR have secured the defenders survival for years to come.

[@Fuz1]

With 18s and a good set of A/T 33s and the optional rear dif locker this thing will be even more capable. Not for me though, I prefer vehicles that can be repaired on the trail. With all the electronic aids, there is little to no chance of repairing this thing on a remote trail if anything goes wrong. The reliability is another question mark. If money wasn't an issue, I would have one though, along with another more analogue 4x4, like my FJ. Love the look of these things and the interior looks pretty damn good!

[@familyrig]

Good detailed review Sam.

[@Reko_89]

I love my 2023 Defender! Best SUV I’ve owned

[@stuarth43]

my d4 in years to come will not drop so much in price, new defender price is ridiculous, thanks for the vid, nice work

[@michaelnugara5577]

The biggest issue that wasn't commented on is the complete lack of wheel travel when the air suspension is up. I like the review and the best challenge I've seen thrown at it. It definitely looks out of it's element unlike other 4wds.

[@PietroH53]

A really good, thorough, honest review.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

One thing I did notice is that the rear diff lock option hasn’t been included on that unit. Would be good to mention it’s an option that’s available. In actual fact, the body doesn’t really flex at all - that’s the beauty. The new platform D7x is 3 times stronger and any of its closest rivals and is much stiffer than the previous design. The only flexing is in the suspension - the monocoque is very very rigid.

[@Flyboy1066]

Have to say what a great video and presentation from over the pond 🇬🇧 stay safe great Australians..)) 😊

[@tonymccombs]

Thanks for a helpful review. I failed in a hill climb recently... Obviously lack of driver skill on my part ... Plus I didn't hold my tongue quite the same as you...

[@vasianbimbli1307]

I'm curious to see the g class capabilities on that off roading terrain

[@exmoorprinters1052]

Great review, Looks amazing in my book, would love to know if some one will manage a 16" rim conversation for some proper off-road tyres.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

If you are thinking about buying one, watch the TFL guys from Boulder CO. They have had theirs 3 days in 1 month. It has been at the dealer the rest of the time.

[@williamwilde9867]

Check out the latest tfl video they on their 3rd unit, first one needed new engine, they got another one dealership cut into the engine harnesses putting winch in before they took possession of it. Now they waiting for new one now. Old school one is best and is a lot easier to fix. I must say Range Rover was giving great customer service👍

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@williamwilde9867 correct, watched that this morning. Gotta love JLR reliability...

[@joelopic]

This is my grail rig. Just so beautiful.

[@jameslindley924]

The Impressive Off Road Ability and Phenomenal ability to find Traction is the Beginning !! To EARN RESPECT and JUSTIFY THE PRICE TAG !!

[@trimley]

Excellent video - didn’t realise you had water in Australia 😂

[@andyperry2973]

Great review. Great car, I’d like one.

[@darren5160]

When you scraped it would have been good to see you use the extended mode for higher ground clearance.

[@rirrid5662]

Most excellent review. The front of this car's looks is the biggest disappointment. They should offer the option to graft on the previous defenders front end paneling.

[@Drivecomau]

Haha, I'm not so sure how that would look. And also how it would impact on pedestrian safety...

[@dadventuretv2538]

Just wait for the ARB bumper.

[@tanioraaura1274]

Nice review , i see the Defenders an expensive stone throwers. No mud flaps

[@tanioraaura1274]

I would get a diesel engine rather than paying for expensive petrol.

[@jameslindley924]

Proper Set o Tyres !!!!!!!!!!! Looks Well !!!!!!!!!!!

[@richlittlewood516]

Excellent review

[@Drivecomau]

Cheers Rich!

[@georgetidd8972]

Hell Hill for sure! WOW,,,good job Defender! Good Driving….cheers from California

[@Drivecomau]

Thanks George!

[@Matrix-tp8ou]

its a good car as far as if you dont own it

[@beaviccoon470]

It seems like the defender could articulate more in certain areas but maybe there's an update that's either going to fix this or already has fixed it.

[@Patches-vq8cd]

I think i will stick with my real defender thanks 👍

[@fi9865]

you mean your Kia Soul?

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

Broken after 300miles from TFL no sign of it being repaired I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole

[@el3aneed63]

Our land rover Dealer gives a 5 year/100k mile warranty and service contract

[@minato450]

This kind of problem that TFL faced actually happens quite alot in the automotove world. Lucky for the americans tho, they have the Lemon law. 👍🏾👍🏾

[@Gonzarelli]

Any other examples or are you just basing your judgement on the one vehicle?

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

@@el3aneed63 worthless if they can’t find the fault and you can’t drive the car

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

@@Gonzarelli pretty decent evidence considering the situation

[@derwinjax]

I’d like to see one lifted with 33s or set up how someone who’s serious about off reading and see how it handles and if it was even capable of being modified in such a way.

[@mikomedia319]

Good report/video - thanks. 20" wheels are a no go! With the electronics there are too many things that could possibly go wrong. We took a Discovery 3 up to the cape and due to the electronics and air suspension it limped home. Now the owner had a Prado, no issues. Us 4wd's aren't too worried how our vehicles handle around a corner or it's 0-100 times. We want the vehicle to be reliable and simple when tackling the bush or the outback. That means live axles or even IFS at the front end with springs (maybe leafs on the rear). You can modify the vehicle to your required 4x4 activity etc...but with the new defender you can not. Plus the cost of the new defender is ridiculous. Much prefer to buy a Fortuner, MUX or even a Everst, good value and proven reliable vehicles at almost half the cost. Thus i bought a new Fortuner though loved the Defender but couldn't gamble on the electronics....and then the cost.

[@patrickcurley8951]

Brilliant review

[@Drivecomau]

Thanks Patrick!

[@lachlanmaple4868]

I love everything about it - except the price!

[@samuelbaker6542]

An actual hard track tested. 👍

[@robertsteele8875]

Excellent Review. I agree that the LR wheel/tire options are poor. Perhaps they will correct with future builds? I have tackled a good bit of terrain to date in my 2020 P400 - over 1500 miles in Moab and Colorado Rockies. I recommend equipping with rock sliders, 1" lift rods, 18" wheels and 33" KM3 tires. Also, recommend use of the sport manual gear shift to drive at proper RPM's in lieu of AUTO settings.

[@williamwilde9867]

Needs better sized wheel tires and lift kit, and bring a laptop for diagnostics.But for the average consumer who does overlanding and light off road this will fit the bill.

[@jimwekesa5800]

They are called "giraffe windows" From Kenya

[@pbmfl]

Simple test/review would be to take it to the bush using corrugated roads.... for a week... and see if it will bring you back.

[@jakubstrumillo]

"We made it" that's real Camel Trophy hint there! Bloody GJ

[@thetad1242]

I had to watch the defender again after watching the Rubicon.

[@GSXR0311]

Awesome video. Thanks.

[@paulfellows2535]

Great review and levelheaded comments thank you. Agree with the comments about the scenery. Brilliant. In reality how many old defenders or new defenders will be required to face such a challenge. Which makes the new one perfectly competent For normal mixed use. Whilst it is expensive is it dramatically more expensive than a well option and LandCruiser. And just how much is the Ineos grenadier going to cost? It’s a lot cheaper than the G-wagen

[@Joaogfr]

Great review. What tyre size on the vehicle? Standard or bigger? Thank you.

[@kstacey3063]

I do like it, but the amount of electro wizardry is a bit daunting. I'm following a report on one atm, brand new basic model and been back to dealer constantly because it failed to upgrade itself. Granted we are moving forward in the industry but I can't help worrying what would happen if you're out trekking and this issue comes up. But to be fair I had similar reservations with my range rover l322 and that turned out OK. I love that it is still the best in the world but baulk at the price.

[@peabrained3144]

In my opinion, this car's design is biased towards towing rather than off-roading because of those large brake rotors obviously for more effective stopping power when towing a heavy load. But it limits you to use wheels smaller than 18" which is what you want when you go off road.

[@jameslindley924]

Best vehicle Land Rover has Produced since Range Rover Classic !! Bar the Price Tag !!!!- Coz its supposed to be cheaper to build than old defender but twice or three times the price !!!!!!!!