How Grand Seiko Spring Drive works

How does Grand Seiko Spring Drive work and how does it compare to a traditional mechanical Watch? 🤔
#grandseiko #springdrive #shorts #grandseikospringdrive

[@popomomo12]

The sword edit had me 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kayless32]

Samurai 😂

[@keysncoffee7733]

That was fire!

[@TheMeditron]

Spring drive is basically magic and I straight love it.

[@redbarchetta8782]

When art and technology come together.

[@TheEugenePiano]

I’ll tell you how it works. It works extremely well!

[@threethrushes]

Beautiful.

[@gushlak3983]

yooooo that gmt at the end is gorgeous

[@twwtb]

Gotta love Seiko for their innovation. Eagerly awaiting my first, a lowly Seiko 5 field watch.

[@spencerschulz626]

Nice! Seiko 5 is basically the same quality finishing you’d find on a submariner or Hamilton kaki

[@bricesuire5072]

@@spencerschulz626no. The Seiko prospect lx line is. You got that wrong brotha. The Seiko 5’s the 200 to 600 dollar ones don’t touch the Rolex. They have a 4r36 movement which isn’t bad. You can get it to even +/- 5 seconds a day.

[@richardlyman2961]

@@spencerschulz626That is not true, Rolex is leagues ahead of seiko’s entry-level models. Rolex has excellent finishing. Saying this as a GS owner and seiko fanboy.

[@john-paulsilke893]

@@richardlyman2961 agreed. I love my Seiko 5 collection it’s awesome. But it’s nothing compared to my Daytona, (which I just sold to help finance a house along with my GS Snowflake 😢). And I too am a fanboy, nobody does a dial face like Grand Seiko! (Bracelet is good, not fantastic unlike even a cheap Rolex).

[@richardlyman2961]

@@john-paulsilke893 I have an evolution 9 and the bracelets are a lot better now but still lack micro adjust

[@lpg12338]

Spring Drive is an impressive technology, but one of the reasons way I like mechanical watches, is because of the tick tock sounds. Of all the watches that I have owned, Longines has the best sound. If its quite in my office, I can hear it working arms length away. 😁

[@wabalaka1565]

Imagine rolex come up with this moment. They would have sell it for 100k each minimum on their watch

[@wzbmitbbs]

Half year later you can buy a replica in China for 200$ with 99.99% identical

[@altgrey6531]

@@wzbmitbbs No replica for spring drive to this day.

[@sdaafasfad]

​@@altgrey6531the only thing that can rival spring drive in terms of how it looks on the dial is the high frequency Bulova quartz movements - but once you look at the mechanics underpinning each movement, spring drive is revolutionary whereas the Bulova quartz movements despite being high frequency, are simply just quartz movement - spring drive is the perfect marriage of traditional mechanical movements with quartz.

[@tesmat1243]

​@@altgrey6531well the bulova 262khz is quite close

[@ronaldcphotography]

@@altgrey6531exactly, the Chinese can’t reverse engineer it, that says ALOT about the spring drive

[@HarmonicVector]

Magnets truly are a force we take for granted.

[@ryangochuico]

SLGA021 owner here. The stated accuracy of springdrive is being modest. They say +/-1 second per day for 9R65 and +/-0.5 seconds per day for 9RA2 but in actual use case, mine ran at -0.5 seconds for 1 whole month. When i first got it, I wore the watch daily and checked the time every morning against atomic time app on my phone. I stopped checking after a month so i could use my other watches. who knows how much further it could have gone?❤

[@chia-mingyang5804]

I own two for more than ten years in total. They both run +3 to +5 sec per month. I wear one of them almost daily and I only need to adjust it once per year.

[@ryangochuico]

@@chia-mingyang5804 magnificent! I haven't owned spring drive for more than 2 years so far since i am new to the hobby (started in 2021). I am curious to know how durable it is in the long term? The one you use almost daily, has it ran this whole 10 years without any servicing? And no problems at all? Thanks ☺️

[@ArquillWefronic]

SLGA009 here. +1 second per month tested over 4 months. The accuracy is something to behold. I don't ever have to think about it, and if I leave the time zone a couple times a year I'll end up zeroing it out naturally.

[@ryangochuico]

@@ArquillWefronic that is spectacular🤩

[@smisaraf4749]

That Credor need more love

[@SugarKalamay]

Resellers hate GS because of its resale value. Although GS is very innovative with their watches, their catalog is just too broad. People like the feeling of exclusivity hence the thirst for corny watches that you can only get through a waitlist.

[@garyboyle695]

Those sort of people are idiots then. Who cares what other people think about your watch.

[@aditpatnaik2654]

That's because you treat watches as commodities and not as personal heirlooms

[@SugarKalamay]

@@aditpatnaik2654 I think its pretty clear that I'm speaking for the enthusiasts.

[@ryangochuico]

​@@SugarKalamaymatamis 😄

[@Leon_der_Luftige]

You define a piece of art by how accessible it is to others?

[@dimasakbar7668]

True but if i may be honest, Grand Seiko Hi-Beat also worth to be mentioned. Its just mesmerizing seeing it beat that fast

[@bozi1367]

Bro Spring drivo is sooooo good.I love watches alot but if i could chose only spring drive seiko.Fck rolex and those others i swear

[@zandertraveler2083]

I love my spring drive! I wear it more than my Daytona or my GMT Pepsi.

[@emmanuelthomas1563]

Unbelievable that watxhmakers couldnt make a smoith rotation of the second hand befote this

[@bosco266]

Work of art!

[@rickzhang2288]

And yet the old guard snobs look at GS and say "its just expensive seiko"

[@Aztec1050]

It’s just a quartz regulated watch

[@R023N]

​@@Aztec1050what makes a conventional mechanical movement more complicated than a spring drive?

[@ahmadanime7586]

​@@Aztec1050It doesn't need battrey swaps tho 😂

[@Aztec1050]

@@ahmadanime7586 citizen solar movement can go 25 years without battery swap

[@Aztec1050]

@@R023N they are equally complicated, the springdrive chronograph is much more complex than a lot of Patek chrono calibres in term of component count. But the usage of integrated circuit will make the lifespan short, it's literally disposable once the production of the IC ends as it cannot be fixed

[@tyroneswift4004]

GS Spring Drive is one of two grail watches for me. The other is a Zenith El Primero

[@DONKEYSHIEET]

I’m just starting to get into watches and hot diggity damn these grand Seikos are really something else

[@lpg12338]

What is your favorite style of watches? Dress / Diver / Aviation.

[@nhattran4591]

The goat brand

[@thephotochad]

Will trade a kidney for a Grand Seiko.

[@YavuzSultanSelimHan1470]

Really 😂

[@deschan2246]

Does yr kidney "tick" ?😂

[@thephotochad]

It ticks for this 🤩

[@Grayfox988]

As nice as it is, it's still a quartz watch. As for smooth gliding hands, we had that in the 70's with the Bulova Accuquartz.

[@redbarchetta8782]

Nope, it's a quartz regulated mechanical watch. That is exactly how it works. It isn't even similar to the Bulova.

[@Grayfox988]

@@redbarchetta8782 Quartz regulation makes it a quartz watch by definition.

[@raphymartinez]

This will be my next watch (after my Bel Canto is delivered in a few weeks)

[@adamsterdam9049]

my dream watch

[@rekonzuken1]

gotta respect Seiko they gave us quartz then spring drive and then constant force tourbillion its like they keep on evolving and innovating just like Rolex

[@tesmat1243]

Rolex invented literally nothing except marketing

[@Mr1121628]

lol Wtf are you talking about? Rolex innovating like Seiko? It’s nearly the complete opposite! 😂

[@eus9]

How many complicated movements do Rolex have in their catalogue? How many have they invented? They are leagues apart from Seiko in that regard

[@fiddleofdoom]

Rolex markets themselves well, that's about the only thing going for them. Their core catalog has barely changed in 60+ years. Sure the movements have improved, but they haven't really innovated much of anything except the marketing hype around the name.

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

Give me one thing Rolex invented. their biggest invention is the oyster case and it's not really that big of a thing

[@AXHEJAZ]

Wow! 😮 Gotta get a couple for my collection

[@HishamElfiki]

Perfection

[@sergiogamez.]

Love itttt!

[@giovannilozano4961]

God I love seiko

[@claytonclarkson7152]

Incredible

[@JuanCruz-et8so]

I love this watch ❤ is mesmerizing

[@deschan2246]

Its a good precision everyday working watch.

[@Wireless_Gadgets]

why can't Seiko, Toyota, Nisswn and Subaru get together and create a spring drive propulsion vehicle 😄

[@christianjlevesque]

I'm thinking of getting one soon.

[@onolicious5777]

I'd rather have a V8 over electric. I'd rather have tubes over transistors. I'd rather have full mechanical tick-tock over spring drive.

[@lpg12338]

Me to. 👍

[@Steve-tx2il]

How do spring drive movements get serviced?

[@ryangochuico]

They will have to send it back to japan. BUT i have read a few times they now have the ability to service spring drive in New Jersey for people living in the USA. I haven't looked into that for legitimacy though. My seiko AD in the philippines says they would have to mail any spring drive or high beat movement back to japan for servicing

[@gasa1165]

i need to stop watching these because my bank account cant handle it.

[@illmannered1]

So it's like a quartz/automatic hybrid? 🤔

[@torrak5338]

What is the name of the first one in black?

[@evertonperk661]

That Credor 💦

[@NoWhere-wx9gh]

The more I've thought about it, using a battery or solar to power a mechanical escapement would be more practical. Theoretically easier to service and damn sure easier to regulate. Power reserve won't be as great as quartz but far better than nearly any mechanical or Spring Drive.

[@willyscowboyryp]

It's a great watch, amazing innovation but it's not the favourite amongst collectors.

[@Bobmarleej]

Japanese engineering

[@DJPhantomRage]

My Grail watch. I'm not even after a Rolex or anything like that. It's the Spring Drive then a minute repeater pocket watch.

[@mikewazowski6161]

I am german and this is my dream watch...! NOT Rolex ! I love made in Japan...😍

[@aluminiumsloep]

Eat that Nico....

[@zephyr2002]

How do the wall clocks at my school get a sweeping glide? I'm pretty sure they're not spring-drive.

[@Mobin92]

It's just a regular Quartz, with a little motor that just turns the hands. The special thing about this is that it doesn't need a battery.

[@skinny_panda]

Anyone know what is the Ref # of the blue wave dial at end of video?

[@ksu708]

SLGA019 Lake Suwa

[@JMNTN]

only if grand seiko made actually good looking watches

[@doodskie999]

GS is like the toyota for watches. Their affordable, works reliably and built like a tank. I cant really wrap my mind why people buy 100k watches, I know its a statement piece, but a 10 dollar quartz clock is 1000 more times accurate and reliable than a hundred thousand rolex lol

[@mkyhou1160]

Not really -spring drive is difficult and expensive to service. A Toyota would be an ETA movement or a traditional quartz.

[@osamu_90]

Casio F-91W:

[@Chou005]

Shock resistant?

[@explorerjlc1743]

SD wasnt a GS flagship, it was a Seiko innovation

[@Menda_Lerenda]

the first luxury prius, hybrid, twice as troublesome. Bulova did it simpler and before

[@Mingzhe583]

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 Perfectly smooth watch

[@ahmedaaa8867]

How much?

[@TheHoth1]

Sometimes I see cheap wall clock has that gliding second hand. I double that is a spring drive😅

[@planespeaking]

This is a wind up electronic watch. I have a 70's Tissot one that uses coils like this but used a battery to power it not a generator like this Seiko. If you watch Mad Men S6 they talk about the Accutron electronic watch.

[@kd3446]

I’m going to get me GS it’s undervalued compared to other big brands maybe they might license the Tech to Rolex for one watch design only that would be cool….

[@bobbylinkov2671]

During the video Nico Leonard got triggered 😃

[@serivina_freiheitskampfer1936]

😍

[@TheFlyingFishy]

The people who are hating on it, are sore that their favorite brands could be stomped, by a cheap alternative. Grand Seikos Spring drive will always be superior to standard automatics.

[@izakshuvo8434]

They grow their own crystals? SUPERMAN CONFIRMED!

[@ilanpi]

This was first invented by the Swatch Group, published in 1997.

[@MrPhotographerDude]

Who said the Japanese never innovate and always copy and improve on what existed before? I'd rather have a Grand Seiko SD or a Rolex.

[@jeebusmcfries8114]

is there a video of a spring drive on a timegrapher?

[@Mobin92]

It doesn't have the part which makes tick tock. The Grapher won't read anything.

[@jeebusmcfries8114]

that's my hypothesis, i just want to see if anyone actually tried@@Mobin92

[@tesmat1243]

No because it makes no sound

[@lpg12338]

​@@Mobin92Exactly, there was a video of a spring drive placed on the equipment and no data was gathered.

[@Seffsqautch]

Can anyone tell me what model that blue, rippled dial is?

[@MinuteMon]

Grand Seiko SLGA019, we sell it at our shop Carat & Co. as an Authorized Dealer

[@Seffsqautch]

@@MinuteMon thanks!! It’s stunning and I’m going to keep my eye on it and start saving up for it!

[@ivanferrera]

This is what I thought

[@ruiguo0824]

It's a massive innovation over the traditional Swiss mechanical movements; but probably insignificant compared to quartz movement on a technical level, especially solar or motion powered quartz watches. The latter are still far superior in terms of accuracy, durability and consistency.

[@jobaershovon7637]

Those guys at GS need to chill.

[@30apexsys7]

I have seen a wall clock that as almost as smooth as yhis

[@dylantosta4218]

Awesome, yet expensive...

[@riardomilos8014]

Arguable.. It's expensive but you get some of the best features in watches and it's handmade personally, with rolex it's way more pricier and it's mass manufactured, they sell the brand not the watch.

[@lifeisgood070]

Buy me one

[@user-cn2he1uu1d]

King Seiko has almost the same thing.

[@imranzafar1781]

Amazing how much info was covered in 1m

[@halrox247]

And yet a $40000 Rolex needs to be brought back in for maintenance 2-3 times a year because they don’t want to bother modifying the mechanics to solve a problem Seiko did 20 years ago.

[@mike4402]

Basically using an automatic movement to run a quartz watch.

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Just stop smoking crack 😂

[@Leon_der_Luftige]

Without a battery.

[@grandiora]

It will be a sad day when the electronic circuits in the watch inevitably fail

[@k9teamzagrebskolazapse149]

Too me this is best watch in the world. And I get Seikos (they haw nothing with GS ), but I think that name seiko is not fear for warch whic is beter and acurate than all other mechanical. So name Seiko must goo, that kills that prestige superacurate brand,all I'm house exe and much more.

[@robertoceferino1456]

Gotta be honest. I still don't know how it works.

[@Soulheads-yy3zq]

This is wonderful but in a world of heritage and economic ‘differences’ and brand clout i feel it will be admired by many but bought by few.

[@Leon_der_Luftige]

Seiko for extreme precision Damasko/Sinn for absurd sturdyness. The rest are just selling the name for bragging rights.

[@toddallgier914]

Find one you like and it will be in limited production and you will never be able to buy it. Good old Grand Seiko.

[@lukemccann2024]

Citizen have spring drive 😂

[@aybeeaa8662]

Thats just too much its just a watch and its job is to tell time

[@lpg12338]

Well, time is the most important unit of measurement in human existence.

[@mahefarafidison7388]

Seiko is not enough recognized for his revolutionary technologie. Even it's a brand that made history like Rolex.. Even more that Omega.

[@almac9203]

How has Rolex made more history than Omega? That's BS. Go and research Omega history and compare with what Rolex has done.

[@HBC423]

It’s just a quartz watch… powered by a generator

[@blakake]

$10,000

[@JamStewAkuryou]

I subscribed

[@jonpaul3868]

Still electrics basically.

[@fuloplehel]

Me and my old mudmaster just watching this really nice movement.

[@mathewazzopard8100]

Not impressed, it's a hybrid....

[@wanderer1125]

If grand Seiko is really this great. Why is it that only middle class owns them? No billionaire ever wore a single seiko in history and definitely no iconic person

[@ninhful]

Interesting, but I hate the fast talking style.

[@g43654]

The gut of a Spring Drive is so... boring and cheap-looking. What a shame.

[@MrPasqual1]

It's basically an overcomplicated quartz watch

[@tesmat1243]

Any 100k+ mechanical watch is just an overcomplicated mechanical watch

[@MrPasqual1]

@@tesmat1243 not the same thing, although prices for mechanical watches are often too high and brand related. The point here is that the timekeeping of spring drive mechanism is dictated by a quartz circuit with a complex drive train but that makes it more a quartz than a mechanical watch

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

@@MrPasqual1 no it's not, it's a mechanical movement that uses a quartz for it's accuracy.

[@MrPasqual1]

@@Ted_Kenzoku I disagree: timekeeping is ensured by a quartz mechanism with an overcomplicated mechanical transmission

[@johnraba9322]

That is not quartz watch precision. Sorry.

[@RandallSlick]

For anyone outside of Japan, it works right up until it doesn't.

[@tesmat1243]

Like any machine ever made in the history of mankind

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

like every other watch, they all need servicing.

[@RandallSlick]

@@Ted_Kenzoku Alas it seems that Grand Seiko don't have extra-Japan service centres. Imagine shipping your Lexus IS300 back to Japan for an oil change, with all the cost and uncertainty that that might involve. A rum state of affairs all told, but not entirely surprising since Seiko merely tolerate foreign interest in their products in much the same way as French wine producers. Me? My money stays in my pocket until a this particular global monolith with a lazy attitude to QC and customer service stops riding on the credulous wallets of fanboys. YMMV of course, but your mileage is doomed.

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

@@RandallSlick sending a two ton vehicle is not the same thing as sending a 100grams wrist watch. and they also have a service center in the USA

[@RandallSlick]

@@Ted_Kenzoku I'm not in the USA and the parallel is exactly valid. Your US service centre will not provide certain services for certain GS watches so off to Japan it must go. If a company can't be bothered to provide local service to factory specs, they can count my business out. As an aside, the Swiss are as bad. Most of the watch industry are lazy and complacent, preying on credulous, wealthy, lazy and complacent 'consumers'. My comparison to the car industry is valid and will remain so until proven otherwise.

[@charles-titi8493]

That’s Quartz without a battery, there are electronically components and that defeats all the beauty of mechanical watch 😅 Apple Watch too have swiping hands

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

the spring drive movement is way more complex than the automatic movement of a rolex or a 3hand patek

[@MikoMomo]

That's why GS is a BS NOW DAYS. if you really care about accuracy just get a digital casio. But a mechanical clock without the tik tak is worthless for me.

[@lpg12338]

Me too, no tick tock, no sale. ⌚