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[@tonydeveyra4611]

Hemp Farmer here, so excited to see hempcrete construction in the UK!

[@nc3826]

where is your hemp farm? and what species of hemp do you grow? IMHO hempcrete blocks are the future for cost effective hempcrete construction...

[@tonydeveyra4611]

@@nc3826 I am based in California my day job is growing smokable ham flower but I am also doing research projects with fibre and green varieties finding the most success with Chinese land races thus far on the fibre production side

[@nc3826]

@@tonydeveyra4611 I'm guessing smokable ham flower and Chinese land races are nicknames for the species.... Nice to see a high hurd/blast producer is also on your radar too, since CBD seems like the main focus for most ppl for now.... FWIW there are a few Hempcrete Block producers outside of the USA that are trying to start production in the USA in the next year. But they both are not that close to California.... and there so much new tech that will bring down the cost of processing it... it should become a far more cost effective options for builders... good luck...

[@martinmb6067]

What about the fire resistance?

[@Steelsnort]

I wish these types of videos provided actual specs and drawings. Did they actually use hempcrete or did they just use hemp wool? I’m planning a hempcrete house is North Carolina but it is very hard convincing architects and builders to use a product that is newer to the USA.

[@QT31160]

"unfortunately we are not at the stage yet to charge a premium..." That's fine. House prices are high enough as it is, thank you

[@adrianus13]

I caught that too, normally as a business grows you can charge less. Kinda spoils the rest for me

[@dcanmore]

£1.2 million for one of those plots.

[@samplumbe3288]

Did make me chuckle. As someone who works for a developer that comment is why we don't add things that will cost us more. Instead we put in the cheapest thing we can as people won't pay for stuff that will save them money. Instead we are driven by the local market value. I wish people would pay more for items that will benefit them long run but they just don't and mortgage companies don't. Recognise the benefit either.

[@ianmurray250]

@@dcanmore And all because the Conservatives removed the maximum borrowing cap in the 1980s. This controlled the maximum amount of money a bank was allowed to let you borrow,. Before that you were allowed to borrow 2.5x your salary & 1x your partners. So the average mortgage today would be about £140,000 and these houses would cost a more reasonable about £250,000.

[@wesman7837]

@@ianmurray250 so you like the idea of people borrowing more than they can pay for? We have done that a few times, and it always seems to lead to a collapse, and people lose their homes, and banks get to make a fortune off of people's misfortune!

[@DJRaffa1000]

the editing and music choice makes all the beautiful shots even more stunning. Astounding job.

[@igalloway]

I'd like to suggest a bicycle locking station next to the rental car. Someone nearby could bike (ebike) to where the car is, lock up their bike, then take the car into the city etc.

[@xxwookey]

Yeah disappointing that they managed not to mention bikes at all whilst espousing their green credentials. secure and convenient bike parking, closer to the front door than the car parking, big enough for a cargo bike, with a wide-enough door and charging is the new standard. At least in Cambridge the local plan already requires most of this, but I guess most places say nothing about the subject. There was no sign of connectivity to the existing nearby housing either (other than cycling down the main road, which probably isn't great).

[@andrewcbartlett]

I think the hire car is meant for the new house owners

[@xxwookey]

iI's about 200m to the car parking slot from the furthest-away house. I think most people can walk that far. But yeah bike parking is always good. And he did say that people could come from elsewhere - those really would want somewhere to lock their bike.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

I want the Govt to lift the speed of e-bikes to 25-30mph. If they did that I would cycle my 31 mile daily commute.

[@xxwookey]

@@user-jt1jv8vl9r You can already buy such a vehicle (I own one - it's great). But that's an e-moped not an e-bike. The speed limit of 15 for vehicles deemed to be 'cycles' and allowed to use cycle paths is sensible policy because bikes and pedestrians are mixed together in millions of location across the country. Speed differential matters. I agree that a 30mph-capable vehicle for a 15 mile each-way commute makes a lot of sense, otherwise it takes an annoyingly long time. Mine was 12 miles and cycling it every day was about 55mins each way - so I got the moped. The main catch is that you don't get to pedal on a moped so it's cold in winter. There are moped-speed machines that you can pedal too so you might prefer to get yourself one of those.

[@catalinvoineag6344]

Like the idea of the Home series. A lot of your content is centered on cars. Electric cars won't solve all the problems.

[@TheGearHunter]

Their content has been driven by the pandemic. That’s the sole reason why the majority of episodes have been vehicle centric. Once the C-19 shackles are removed, Fully Charged Show will be free to spread its wings. Hopefully , back to its roots.

[@alexmckenna1171]

It's naive to expect EV cars will solve all the worlds problems. But they are definitely part of the solution, not least the battery storage they offer in future, for the grid.

[@davidhadlum1022]

When children are at the school gates on a winters day, parents in their cars running there heating and exhausts belching carbon monoxide...I know what type of vehicles I would prefer waiting for them!

[@Hempbuildingbook]

@@TheGearHunter all the aspects of this development are brilliant but the focus not only of this project but most governments on electric vehicles is stupid while they ignore the simple potential of compressed air vehicles. Simple technology and no rare mineral inputs just cleaning the air during it's use.

[@josed.4261]

Robert, I like this episode very much! I'm a former automotive engineer that for many different reasons changed to energy efficiency in buildings... You hit many nails on the head in a single episode, congratulations!

[@waynenakanishi971]

Carbon Negative House... I'm gonna build one in the future :)

[@johnnycage3673]

using farts for heating is step 1

[@martinweston8147]

Why wait?

[@waynenakanishi971]

@@martinweston8147 Need money 💰💰. Have to earn more.

[@AdrianMcDaid]

@@waynenakanishi971 at lease you know what you want. 👍

[@jericoba]

Lucky people indeed. Beautiful. (I write as I look around my 28 square meter apartment.)

[@iainweller452]

Hopefully all houses will be built this way in the future, let’s hope the big developers are taking note

[@brackcycle9056]

2006 the gov pledged, with cross party agreement, "All new homes will be zero carbon from 2016" , Amber Rudd cancelled the pledge in 2015..

[@iainweller452]

@@brackcycle9056 I didn’t know this, but I’m not surprised

[@MrPDawes]

Sadly we can't all live in houses like this. Too many people, not enough land.

[@samplumbe3288]

We are working on it as a developer to do much of what was just said in the film but with standard houses competing with big developers and ours is made offsite rather than onsite. So watch this space it is happening and we are not the only ones.

[@iainweller452]

@@samplumbe3288 thanks

[@keithoneill6273]

Brilliant! Well done, Greencore. This is the way forward. It's time for the Building Regs adopt these standards.

[@alwinlook]

I'm going to give you a thumbs up for the upcoming Home Series. Hope to hear a lot of things in this area of development.

[@suchdevelopments]

We have built a passive house in Blue Mountains NSW Australia two years ago. We will be building six level CLT/Passive House with Battery and PV. We will adding nine EV charges, as well and having a community micro grid on the North Coast NSW, in 2022/2023. it will be first project of three built by 2025. Fully Charged LIVE Australia will be coming to Sydney on the 29th & 30th October 2022

[@thiskey]

Fantastic project, fantastic video. This is the sort of thing that makes Fully Charged such a special and important channel.

[@nicdensley4104]

Loved it & shared via FB spreading the word.

[@airheart1]

Very cool.. really like the imbedded solar roof. It does seem a little bit of a shame that they aren't already at 100% of them with batteries. Just seems like a natural thing to put in a house designed from the ground up to be a highly self sustainable home.

[@honesty_-no9he]

They should be on both slopes.

[@Ed.R]

Only down side I see is cooling. The point of installing raised above the roof is it allows air flow. Wonder how they allow cooling? Useing the electric car batteries as storage is probably a better use of batteries. Most cars spend most of their time parked.

[@jordansage9655]

@@Ed.R They don't cool, they just do better in more moderate climates, you will lose some kWh's though with integrated PV like that. Looks incredible though, no?

[@harveytheparaglidingchaser7039]

This is brilliant, next step retrofitting at scale.

[@hologram1211]

Fantastic work! This gives me hope for the future! Great to know there are homebuilders out there championing the green tech we all desperately need.

[@ScenesThroughTravels]

Oxfordshire is stunning even more so now with these homes .. The Future is happening

[@jamiefox54]

This project looks totally legit. He asked the right questions and they gave mostly the right answers. Not greenwashing at all. Would be interested to revisit the car sharing after a few years and find out whether it was regularly used or whether they had to run it at a big loss.

[@matthewajbell]

Love what you are doing Ian & James. It’s so important your work and achievements get the public exposure they deserve to help other developers to follow suit. It can be done!

[@davidtones4917]

Wow these houses look amazing! Hopefully more developers follow this model and build some near me as I would definitely buy one!

[@Gr33nMamba]

Just not a fan of the flat roof choice mind, additional cost on house insurance.

[@blackpool321]

They won't as it costs more which means less profit for them, that's why all new build estates look the same ,cheap template.

[@simonwillgress]

I’d be amazed if the ones with the Bauder roofs are carbon negative.

[@ZsOtherBrother]

There's been a "car-club" where I live for several decades now, (yes, DECADES:), and in the last few years I've seen shared e-bike/e-moped systems appearing around us. Having a shared-resource approach built into a community is a very good idea, and a step in the right direction.

[@adsheff]

Great to see. I think it's important with new housing developments that they are connected to town centres with easy and safe walking and cycling routes. Too many are plonked on the edge of towns and cities with little to no connection other than roads, which simply induces more car journeys and road building. In my mind it's as important as the buildings themselves.

[@johnmightymole2284]

Good direction for construction. Makes sense How much are these houses? . They look very big. The smaller the household, the bigger the house. The "affordable houses" aren't really affordable. The occupants can part own it. Shared ownership is one of the many tools introduced to inflate house prices. A nation of buy to let addicted to rising house prices. No wonder the young are alienated.

[@HansMilling]

Great video. Great to se what can be done today. I love that you bring out other content than cars, also boats, bicycles, wind turbines and other green energy production facilities. Also very nice to se Robert so active again. For a period it seems he was buried in paperwork instead of participating in the videos.

[@Group51]

Excited for the series. 🤓🌱

[@masongoss4615]

Great project. Start undercutting “contemporary builds” on price and watch the uptake. If we can find alternative financing methods (rather than the accepted mortgage system) then it becomes a no-brainer. Great work.The ball is starting to roll!!

[@xchopp]

Ian Pritchett -- What an excellent person and personality! Great demeanor (I mean, demeanour :)

[@stephaniehenderson6631]

Such amazing houses, this is just wonderful. I really hope they come up North too and weave their magic here too.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Integrated solar panels, passive houses, no gas lines, awesome!

[@costas9988]

Fantastic video and really great to see. Would love to see how the heating and hot water works through the winter with low solar generation and the reliance on the grid during those times. More home project videos please! Would also love to see some retrofit projects to inspire what we can do in our already poorly built homes to improve their efficiency.

[@stuigi99]

Excited to hear about the Home series coming on the channel, it's great to see some of the tech and initiatives that are coming, especially with the recommendations about new boilers in the news.

[@billycan8852]

Great to see projects like this happening. Every new house should be built like these .

[@whatwouldbenice]

As a building apprentice this is the kind of company I'm looking for once I'm qualified! Well done to them and good luck

[@micheltebraake7915]

This looks good. Now we have to ensure that it will be applied on a large scale.

[@flyingpanhandle]

Really looking forward to the house series. I've recently moved and i need to do a fair amount of work, i want to be getting solar, batteries, air source and improved windows and insulation so will be watching with keen interest!

[@MrCurlay]

Really enjoyed this and certainly looking forward to more home related content.

[@Boogaloo_Baloo]

I wanna live in one. That neighborhood looks so cute.

[@MrJohnstanton]

Good job Robert ,very pleased for the House series , and we need legislation to improve massively to get the big house builders to build more sustainable and reduce the cost of carbon locking materials down to where average builders can also use them .

[@frozenyogurtist]

These houses look beautiful! Yes please! :-D

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗 ROBERT …WE ARE REALLY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION 🤗👍💚💚💚

[@christrott4633]

Great to see the carbon positive project. BioRegional are always at the cutting edge of sustainable projects. I’ve just converted and extended my house with similar principles. The roof is fully covered with PV shingle from Sunstyle (the first use in the UK). So they are the roof, not on another roof below. I’m not connected to them in any way so I use the name to help others. And I’m managing to generate more than enough power for the house and my electric car. I use the Tesla Power Wall and Zappi charger (thanks to Fully Charged fro the heads up on those). I’ve not had to go down the airtight passive house route to do that, which is my preference to stay connected to nature, so there are other ways to do this. All significant materials used are pretty well zero carbon (CO2 free concrete) or natural products like larch cladding and bamboo floors. Looking forward to more in the series

[@KJSvitko]

Love all shows on energy efficiency in homes, businesses and vehicles.Wasting energy anywhere wastes money. An energy efficient home is more comfortable and is better for your wallet and the planet.

[@Wol747]

We had a heat recovery unit in the US from 1997 - very effective.

[@pathepaparslow2068]

Wish I’d known what I do now when I was building my house. Looks so good

[@ElectricCarAustralia]

Very encouraging and shows what can be. Unfortunately most new build homes are absolute minimum standard and full of inefficient appliances. We really do need more of these Eco houses of at least carbon neutral but carbon negative even better. Great video FC Team 👍

[@TassieEV]

This is an amazing development, need this globally. Would love to have one of these houses as long as I could have my bees, veggie garden, EV & garage, and fruit trees.

[@krulkrulle6588]

In what kind of country do you live? These houses are now mandatory in most of western europe. At least in country, new houses have to meet very high standard isolation/solar roof electricity/no emission. You cant build a new house now, without having solar panels on it. The problem with all these new very high isolation / zero emision houses is that they get EXTREMELY HOT during the summer. Meaning after some years after people bought those houses, they need to spend another 5000 euro's on air conditioning. And they need to put charging stations for electrical cars in the future.

[@TassieEV]

Australia which is not the same building requirements as Europe

[@TassieEV]

Australia which is not the same building requirements as Europe

[@TassieEV]

Australia which is not the same building requirements as Europe

[@TassieEV]

Australia which is not the same building requirements as Europe

[@georgegeorgiy3516]

Finally! I'm looking forward to see more episodes about house's! 😊

[@simoncanfer5030]

Great that you're focussing on homes. We're about to get the country's biggest development near us in Swindon and passivhaus is mentioned...🤞

[@therealcaldini]

Do you think they mean it, or are they just saying that to keep the ‘greenies’ off their back? I was looking at some Persimmon houses the other day - awful buildings and a car-centric layout of the estates. They make “Mediocre” look like it’s an effort for them.

[@simoncanfer5030]

@@therealcaldini We will see, but councillors here are aware and we'll see when detailed planning is submitted. I share your skepticism!

[@blackpool321]

Beautiful new build houses that I will never be able to afford to live in , I do love this idea of building on all the greenbelt land for unaffordable housing .

[@lukepeacham9663]

Really excellent ideas here. All buildings should be like this. No big energy bills and less carbon going into the atmosphere.

[@benpaynter]

Excellent episode, more like it please. It's really uplifting to see a development like that but that's tempered with great frustration when you think that we're in the middle of a house building boom in the UK and most of them are being thrown up as cheap as possible with no effort to reduce their environmental footprints. It's such a massive missed opportunity. Hopefully Greencore get their hands on some more land!

[@forrestcarlson1742]

Great video!! Love the homes, excited for the new series on green homes!

[@tomsummers1137]

My pad has been carbon-negative for years. Soon my driving will be as well, via bi-directional charging. Share this video to those “mediocre legislators” and those mediocre thinking Luddite friends. ONE PLANET !

[@nc3826]

good luck getting troglodyte friends.... they have been carbon-negative for eons....

[@freibuis]

Is your house buried? Then it would be impossible for it to be carbon negative.. it's carbon balanced/neutral...

[@tomsummers1137]

@@freibuis all I know is I’ve been feeding more juice to the grid than I take out.....for many years now.

[@Bayliss21]

@@tomsummers1137 So you don't pay electric bills on an annual basis? You make money?

[@tomsummers1137]

@@Bayliss21 only a negligee amount. I’ve since sold the property. But at the end I was charging other cars with my excess electricity.

[@paulmcgrath781]

I would love to hear from the architects of these houses, understanding the decisions they’ve made on the house designs and how they help make the house carbon negative.

[@edwardcrussell3280]

Superb project and great to show the world how feasible this kind of thing is. Obviously the test will be how quickly this concept can trickle down to low and regular income housing developments. Couldn't come soon enough!

[@act3life592]

Brilliant - and all power to them. Was lucky enough to also build a carbon negative house - a dream came true. It's so very possible.

[@richardhall206]

This is great. It's a real shame the retrofit opportunities are so limited and expensive.

[@willm5814]

Will be researching the one planet initiative! I’m close to carbon neutral with solar, insulation, electric car...just decided I’m going to go negative by adding solar to my daughter’s house 😉

[@favclassisspy9478]

I'd love to live somewhere like this (if I'm ever able to get my own place)

[@chrisredfield3240]

I would probably have to move in there with 10 other people just to make it affordable!

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

@@chrisredfield3240 for at most 10% extra than a normal house if doing it on own? They even say it's price of normal houses.

[@GAmbrose]

@@arnabbiswasalsodeep Yeah but the price of a "normal" house in Oxford are a bit different to the price of a "normal" house in the North East.

[@87vortex87]

I'm really looking forward to the home series! Just bought a house and doing research what we can do to make it as CO2 neutral as possible! Perfect timing for this series. I would really like to know how much additional electricity generation you need to have electric under floor heating, heat pump options, etc, etc. Also, it's so much fun to be less dependent on fossil fuels and be more self sufficient, it's just the feeling of self sufficiency that's fun, and saving some monthly recurring expense by investing in your house.

[@anders21karlsson]

A GREAT video, thank you. This is the future for building.

[@pioneer7777777]

Would be cool to see an owner follow up video on Fully Charged Plus in a year or so! See how they are getting on, and how low their bills are!

[@rene.duranona]

Wow. Wish I could afford to buy a house like those.

[@bettyswallocks6411]

Crikey, Southmoor. I grew up there. It was a much smaller village in those days, and had the A420 main Oxford - Swindon road running through it, now bypassed. British Leyland at Cowley, Oxford, used to ship body panels from Pressed Steel Fisher, Swindon, so the old road could get quite busy at times.

[@42thgamer80]

This subject is what is most interesting to me.

[@s1m0nc]

Just down t'road from me. All already sold STC by the looks of it. Perhaps Bobby will say that in a sec... :) watchy watchy. 5 bed properties were / are £1.2m. Fantastic though, and the more of this built the cheaper it will get.

[@jvmotors]

This is great, shops and schools within walking distance, cars and diesel buses are no longer necessary. No forest has been demolished to build this very affordable neighborhood, and I am particularly impressed by this technical feat.

[@san080890]

Really nice project

[@DecebalDobrica]

Fascinating interview, now I wish I could take advantage of social housing..

[@stephen-boddy]

Most houses are _already built_ and it is these we need to improve. New houses are all well and good, but how do you reduce the problem of the existing housing stock without having to wait for them to all fall down and get replaced?

[@CHIEF_420]

Molten-salt nuclear reactors (e.g. LFTR) Fix the grid first & any 🏡 becomes sustainable [YT has a bot that deletes factual comments]

[@fullychargedshow]

The Home Energy series will be about 'everyday' homes and how to retrofit technologies to them, be more energy efficient etc

[@daveg56]

Absolutely agree Stephen.

[@TheGearHunter]

@@fullychargedshow …that’s me putting my extension on hold then. Nice!!

[@stephen-boddy]

@@fullychargedshow Good to hear. Maybe stretching the definition of 'everyday' , but a case in point... I had an architect recommend using internal sips to improve insulation of a 150 year old stone walled building, but I find lots of information saying that these buildings need to be thermally leaky to prevent moisture building up in the stone, and causing damp problems. Basically the building needs to breathe. How do you reduce the carbon footprint of problem buildings?

[@edwardboylan4187]

Need more of this in the states, but affordable. Houses come up so quickly with no thought on emissions, let alone longevity, in 'planned' communities :c

[@julienromane897]

It’s really an amazing project we definitely need to see more across the world 👍🏻

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Brilliant Climate Positive coool love it 🌍💚😎 ban toxic !

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Good work mates. Thanks!

[@Sunnysue31]

I would love a "Do it yourself" list of requirements and instructions ... Please :-)

[@andyford7638]

Good to see the launch of the home show. Good timing with the IEA reports roadmap saying no gas boilers by 2025. We are all going to be engaged in this. And it will link with electric cars😊

[@juk5753]

i'm in the club ;-) House wise since 2011, BEV since 2021 (IN SWITZERLAND!!)

[@johncarveth4177]

BRAVO ! More like this please !

[@davidlongenecker9414]

I love this! They’re proving it’s scalable.. now to make it affordable lol

[@davidcuss3059]

i did notice they didn't say how much the homes actually cost, im guessing pretty expensive.

[@examinerian]

For those viewers living in remote Co. Durham former pit villages, for example, the flats and houses you see here range from 4 to 30 times more than your property would realise. There is zero chance of this sort of thing being built near you unless the minimum legislation jumps to this level tomorrow, and is retrospective for all current construction projects. Move along. (Disclaimer: I live in Co. Durham, bought a 5-bed detached for a bit more than one of those 1-bed flats, and whilst there was an attempt to build similar houses about a decade ago in a village alongside the A1, the developer couldn't sell them so scaled right back on the planned number to only build 4 along with about 200 traditional min-spec homes.)

[@AdrianMcDaid]

If you have to ask ....

[@cbcdesign001]

@Ross Bourne So in other words bloody expensive when you consider that UK house prices are now ludicrously high.

[@davidhadlum1022]

Built Simular specs....insulated foundation, blown Insulation, triple glazed etc etc, quick, DIY'able same money!

[@jonnyk15]

Saw one for sale via OnTheMarket for £825k

[@JohnnyZenith]

Most of us can forget about affording one, and many of the cars.

[@timball1553]

This is fantastic we need all housing to be like this

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Well done! Thanks for another great video!

[@bordersw1239]

I’ve been visiting just about every property in my town of 11k people in the U.K. what stunned me was the amount of unused or empty homes - I would estimate over 5%.

[@jahanharoon7274]

I’d love to see an episode on the work that Citu are doing in Leeds and Sheffield.

[@mowcius]

Certainly they're more sustainable, affordable, and sensible developments than what's being shown in this video. Car reduction, walkable neighbourhoods, terraces and multi-dwelling units, community focus etc.

[@dug439]

I've always said If I ever won the lottery I want to do something exactly like this eco houses and more affordable living

[@Leopold5100]

excellent yet again Fully Charged Team on a top episode, but same here in Australia, the mass house building is all being (crapply) built only to meet minimum necessary environmental standards

[@233277]

Great video!!!

[@bugsygoo]

About the car sharing. It does already exist in some European cities. The one I use in Copenhagen is quite extraordinarily, really. It is often cheaper for the family to rent a BMW or Mercedes to go to the local shopping mall than it is to take the bus. Not all of the cars are electric, but a good many are. Perhaps when travel is allowed again it would make for an interesting episode.

[@adamlytle2615]

I don't know if it's my tablet screen, but the one guy's shirt looked a bit pink, which in combo with his green sweater, gave him a real Ned Flanders vibe.

[@martinainley5560]

Really great to see this, it's a good attempt at creating carbon negative living, but maybe take a look at what ALSET (TESLA backwards) homes are doing for further inspiration.

[@telocity]

Interesting video, wonder if they have planned cycling paths for the area or are the locals going to be stuck with cars?

[@davidhadlum1022]

Rainwater Harvesting? Wasn't mentioned, did they include in the build?

[@dwlfpv3348]

Yes some have rain water harvesting.

[@Flumstead]

Mentioned in the advert before the vid.

[@PCRoss2469]

pumped & stoked LOL !!!

[@MrFoxRobert]

Thank you!

[@DougGrinbergs]

Tip for mapping enthusiasts: you can help map new (but also existing) developments on crowdsourced OpenStreetMap, use Mapillary for street-level images

[@t4bs594]

Coincidentally, I was searching online for houses like this, on the day the video was released, in Wales. I wish there were more of them and they were easier to find - if there are more of them. One thing that irritated me, as always - wheelie bins in the video. What the *****" is going on with them? They are a blight that never fail to spoil anything they are near.

[@waynehoffart6677]

Amazing nicely done.

[@SW-lw6mt]

The houses are still far too big but this is a great start, hopefully some of these technologies trickle down to all future house builds.

[@justsomeguy1141]

Mobile phones were big and expensive when they came out too. Cost will come down when they make more.