Carenado Cessna 170B | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

*RE EXTERNAL SOUNDS* Hello ladies and gents! For whatever reason, the external sounds of the aircraft didn't come across very well in this video (I think it's something to do with the way the C170 and replay I use were interacting). In actuality, the external sounds of the C170B are rather nice. I have created a short video illustrating this at various stages of flight (I will also link this video in the review): kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6uUoGRpmKeVd8U All the best : )

[@williamleadbetter9686]

Nice review for the most part very proper on real life procedures. When idling older engines originally made for 100LL try to idle at 1000rpm or so as low idle for extended periods adds to possible spark plug & valve fouling though not a problem in a sim. It is for real older engines. I use 90 oct ethanol free auto gas, have for years in my Piper Tri-Pacer. Also lean during your run up in high altitude areas for optimum power before take you'll need every ounce of it at very high altitude airport. Their are taildraggers that are quite tame like the Aeronca Champ and the Citabria. I don't know about the 170 as I have never flown a real one but in the air they should handle like a straight tail 172

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Isaac, thanks very much! Regarding your comments, I’m just wondering whether you were referencing the video specifically, or whether it was just general advice? I believe I did idle at 1,000rpm (initially I was at 800rpm for the warmup, but that was as per the checklist) and lean for the taxi / takeoff hehe? As with many of these types of aircraft, I certainly wouldn’t profess to be an expert; I try and use airmanship and follow the checklists to the best of my ability where I can though. It may well be that you know a lot more than me about these more vintage birds. . . You have a Tri-Pacer in the real world? That must be a lovely aircraft to fly? : ) All the best!

[@williamleadbetter9686]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes I have an old Tri-pacer. I belong to the short wing piper club. There is a beautiful Cessna 170 at Red steward airfield in Ohio. The family teaches taildragging flying to the public thats where I got my tail dragged endorsement. Though I did not fly the 170 its privately owned not a rental. Though I have flown a 172. And there is a gorgeous 140 at mountain empire airport in Virginia named "the other women" The ground handling of aircraft in msfs tail taildragger or not is a bit touchy and many of them are way to hard to control. Harder is not aways more realistic. Take the P-40B offered by big radial. Now go look up the "Flying Tiger Flight Manual on the P-40" it was an easy plane to take off and land with very little tail swing by their own admission. Get in the sim and its a monster. Now where is this more atrocious that DCS world. Their ww2 piston engine airplanes are beasts & if they were really that hard to handel insurance will not cover them anywhere near the public at airshow like they do. Too much of a dangerous liability. I love the old art deco airplanes of the 30's, 40''s and 50's. Of course I hope the Tri-pacer makes it but a Spartan Executive would be just plain awesome, it was the lear jet of its era. Let's hope & see. Cheers friend and if you aren't a real pilot yet but want to do it in a taildragger it will make you a better pilot

[@williamleadbetter9686]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations the 1000rpm idle thing is for real life operations and its just to keep deposits building up in the older 80 octane rated engines but it is a double edge sword concept because if not watched you can build up too high of a taxi speed if left unattended. You handled the 170 very smooth a nicely especially that beautiful landing. The Tri-pacer i own is very hard to land smoothly with a chop & drop type of approach. One must do a stable approach with gentle throttle step down BUT IT'S NOT HARD AT ALL. Now the most important thing to check as soon as you start up is OIL PRESURE make sure you have it right away. You'd be surprised how many repair shops have burned up engines over the years that THEY have worked on after forgetting to put oil in it and not checking oil pressure on start up. It's your very last line of defense before flight as you should of always check the oil dipstick & fuel before each flight as a part of your preflight checks.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah well I’m envious, that must be a lovely machine to own and fly! : D I very much agree re the state of taildraggers in MSFS (as well as some other sims). As you say, difficult doesn’t necessarily = accurate. WWII would have been a very brief conflict, if the aircraft had been as difficult to get off the ground in real life, as they are in the sim. In MSFS’ case, it’s definitely an area where the sim itself is still wanting (though things do slowly seem to be improving). I don’t have a tailwheel rating, though it’s certainly something I would like to do at some point. I have a little bit of time in the Cub and CAP10 though - so I do have some appreciation of the handling characteristics. I used to enjoy the Alabeo Tri-Pacer, so I’m hoping we’ll see it in MSFS at some point. Would be lovely for cruising around. Thanks for sharing. All the best! : )

[@josephtaylor9271]

FYI- The generator should be turned on when the master switch is turned on from what i understand but for whatever reason it doesn't at the moment You can get around this by just using the alternator keybind (alt+a) to turn the generator on and that'll being the avioncs back to life after the battery dies

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Joseph! Yeah, I figured the issue was probably along those lines. . . Alt+A will have to do for now then I suppose - I’ll just have to hope I don’t get confused with how many times I’ve pressed the keybind haha. Info very much appreciated! All the best : )

[@kalynstalinski8375]

This as well as the buggy cht gauge are also present in the alebeo version from X-plane. This confirms that this was basically a port. This one does have marginally better sounds, though I wouldn’t call them good.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

That’s disappointing to hear Kalyn. I don’t have an issue with ports per se, but at least iron out the bugs haha! The sounds I think are quite nice. The external sounds are a bit off during this review - I think as a result of the recording addon I used. I did pin a comment, linking to a video with a more accurate representation of the external sounds (if you’re interested). Thanks, all the best! : )

[@fobypawz418]

Something about flying in the mountains and being with nature like those bears really feels so tranquil. What a life!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Agree 100% FoBy! Wouldn't it be amazing to head off and do this in real life (perhaps minus the bears haha)! The sim does a really nice job of creating the atmosphere and whilst of course not comparable with the real thing, you still feel like you're going on a bit of an adventure. All the best! : )

[@jag1963]

You didn't just lean out of the window and shout clear prop!

[@pappyodanial]

I thought when you don't yell clear prop it makes you restart.

[@H_E_N_X]

😂😂😂

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha; Asobo actually takes -1fps from your sim every time you forget! : P

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, I most certainly did! How else are the virtual ground crew going to know that we’re cranking our virtual propeller (and then proceed to walk through it anyway)?

[@I_still_use_winamp]

Haha… Nerd

[@Mucologist]

Excellent review and a whimsical trip to snap the bears. You nailed Carenado's reputation to the barn door in an altogether decent way. What a shame. Beauty is really only skin deep. I'll hang on to my grubby $15 for the moment. The implementation of the GPS tablet device is almost worth the cost of admission. Almost... I have been on too many dates with Carenado before. Keep up the good work.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the little bear hunt : ) Yeah, I really do think it’s a shame, for themselves as much as anything. Like you, I’ve tangoed with Carenado many times over the years and it’s been a bit hit and miss (although I always felt they got more derision than was deserved overall). The quality of their MSFS work (minus the bugs) has been such, that they could really cement themselves as the leaders of the mid-range addon market. They have been very good with updates so far and generally the bugs do get ironed out; but if they’re capable of that, then why not just get the product to that state before release?? As I say, they’re really just shouting themselves in the foot! Anyway, after all these years, they probably aren’t about to turn over a new leaf haha. So long as they keep it up with the patches / updates, I won’t feel too hard done by personally. Still, certainly no harm holding on to your $15 dollars for now. Maybe take a look again over Christmas, when it’ll most likely be $7 ; ) Thanks very much once again. All the best!

[@lpcox]

your tyres just deflated during the landing in the nature (or somehow got smaller) 😅 great review and fun flight as always. and I joined the club of course 🤝

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, I think it was the bears that were responsible for the tyres! They must have gotten to them XD Thanks very much Peter; for both enjoying the video and even more so for becoming a member! Lovely to have you on board and very much appreciated! Weirdly, KZbin doesn’t allow me to assign people membership status at will, but you most certainly would have been an honorary member of the channel either way at this point ; ) Really appreciate your support and I’m glad you’re enjoying the content (of which you can now see even more as a member haha!). Have you decided whether or not you’re going down the Xbox route yet? All the best! : )

[@JorisKoolen]

Thanks for the elaborate review. It's good to see that Carenado has a version history on their website and the problems you mention here seem to have been solved. I guess I'll find out for myself! :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

My pleasure Joris, I'm glad you found it useful! Yes, Carenado have indeed fixed up most / all of the issues that I covered during this video (if I recall correctly). It's not "high fidelity", but I very much enjoy the C170 - hope you do to! Happy flying and all the best : )

[@rolanddutton4723]

Very tempted by this or the 140 - I'll wait to see which gets its bugs fixed first. I'm grateful you pointed out the various issues (all of which seem fixable). Great review. Loving all the extras you put in. If I saw that herd of bears IRL I'd be running like ♡♡♡♡ back to my plane. Ps. Don't stop the "clear prop!"

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Roland, Yeah, all of the issues should be very easy to fix, that’s why it’s so frustrating haha! Obviously the 140 is it’s main competitor; I expect it was no accident that the C170 came on the scene very quickly thereafter ; ) Thanks, glad you enjoyed the little “story”. Haha, in reality if I heard there was a bear in the area, I’d be flying as far in the opposite direction as my fuel tanks would allow! XD I think “Clear Prop” is well and truly here to stay at this point haha! I just hope I don’t condition myself to the point where I try and shout it out the window of an Airbus one of these days! ; ) Thanks very much as always!

[@KennyTheB]

@IntotheBlueSimulations You should switch it up for jet aircraft and yell "Clear turbine!" or "Clear intake!" or something of that nature. Just something to make your viewers go "wait... what?" 😂

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, I get enough flack for giving it the old “clear prop” already Kenny! XD

[@ozsimflyer]

Yup, another great review. Thanks for the honest thoughts and the healthy dose of realism. Very enjoyable.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much once again Chris! Glad you enjoyed it. Shame Carenado were a little bit sloppy with their bug fixes, but otherwise a very enjoyable little aircraft! Hope you’re keeping well. All the best : )

[@tubeztoonz]

Well done-a vintage Cessna flight and bears! Thank you for making your reviews both technically exacting and entertaining. Excellent!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much once again. I’m glad you enjoyed the little adventure, much appreciated : ) My pleasure! I try to come up with new little ideas / stories when the mood takes me. Makes it a bit more interesting for you guys (I think) and me as well haha. Luckily virtual bears are much less scary! : P All the best!

[@tubeztoonz]

Your work is always appreciated. The bears do seem pretty non threatening. Perhaps they are a new species-Ursus americanus digitalensis?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks again Tubez! What you didn’t see, was the number of brave C170B pilots lost in action, brining you this footage! XD All the best!

[@tubeztoonz]

Oh no! Well…thank you for omitting those scenes.

[@Sk-tb5ye]

As always great review!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Sjors! Glad you enjoyed it : ) All the best

[@Squirel]

Interesting aeroplane. Have you had the opportunity to try the Aeroplane Heaven 140? It's cool to see that with all of the glass cockpits with the default aircraft, just how popular all these steam gauge releases are. :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, minus a few bugs, it’s a nice little offering and affords some quite interesting flying. I haven’t tried the Aeroplane Heaven C140 actually. I knew the C170 was coming along as well and ultimately the C170 was a bit more appealing (with the extra horsepower etc) It’s great to see all these steam gauge cockpits coming to the sim! Early days it was pretty slim pickings if you didn’t enjoy the G1000 (and I can’t say that I do really), but now we have an abundance of choice. These sorts of machines are much more interesting to fly : ) All the best!

[@supertyfon1736]

Seen a good number of these golden oldies when i was a kid.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Lovely stuff! I’ve seen one or two around over the years. It might not be anywhere near as prevalent as it’s younger brother, but the 170 certainly has more of an elegance to it : ) All the best!

[@supertyfon1736]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah a good number are still flying to this day.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I’ll bet. I would imagine most of them are owned and operated like classic cars these days, but I’m sure there are still a few being used as work horses, in some of the more remote areas of the planet : )

[@supertyfon1736]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations True.

[@LemureDeiCampiElisi]

How many tail wheel single engine you are actually going to need? All of them, of course! As always great review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, what was I thinking. . . you’re totally correct of course! I suppose what I really meant is that it would be nice to see a bit more variety coming into the sim (as it mostly seems to be either typical single-engine GA, or Military aircraft at the moment). I love a good taildragger, but given that the sim doesn’t handle the physics of them very well, I think we could stand to see just a little hiatus in their arrival for the time being ; ) That’s just my humble opinion though haha. Thank you very much as always! : )

[@jaredvanbergen7904]

Another great review of another almost there Carenado product... Hope they can sort out these small issues down the line.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks as ever Jared! Haha, yep, that just about sums it up! Once they’ve actually finished it, it will be a lovely little plane : P I’m sure they will fix it up though, they have been very good with that so far in MSFS to be fair. All the best : )

[@Blasserman]

I found that alternator/generator off bug too. I also discovered if you use the Ctl-E keystroke to start the motor it will turn on all of the needed electrical including the charging system.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Dave, Yes, that is indeed another way to do it. Apparently the alternator should come on at the same time as the battery, via the Master switch. So obviously a bug that needs fixing there. CTL-E will do it for now, but it’s always more fun to be able to start from cold and dark. Thanks for the pointer! All the best : )

[@darkstormESP]

Been waiting for this review :P Taildraggers (especially) on grass strips are the best. Thanks as always!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Agreed Trystan, taildraggers are usually the most fun (especially for this sort of flying). Really enjoyed my time out in the C170 overall. You’re most welcome, my pleasure as always! All the best : )

[@reece650]

Fantastic Video great video as always

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers Reece! Very much appreciated as ever. Hope you’re well! : )

[@reece650]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah good thanks hope your doing well. So when we going to get a live stream also great to see you now have members

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Great! Yeah, all good here thanks. I will reply re the livestream on your other comment, as I know I haven’t yet (hadn’t forgotten about it, just catching up on my correspondence again)! Yeah, got a few members now! Lovely to see. Almost feel like a real KZbinr ; ) Cheers Reece : )

[@reece650]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations sounds good.

[@richardschnepf8168]

As a former 170B owner I must say I enjoyed your video. My only mistake with the 170B was selling it.Thank you

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Richard, Thanks very much, happy you enjoyed the video. Haha, well the C170 is a very pretty aircraft, looks like it would be lovely to fly as well; I’m sure selling it was no fun. Hope the video brought back some nice memories : ) All the best!

[@dukesc5562]

Hi I've come later to this review having bought the 170. Just wondering about this nice little mission if you created it yourself or where it might be available to download. It would certainly prove an entertaining day out🙂. Thanks for the detailed review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Duke, Everything you need for the Teddy Bears picnic, you will find in the sim by default (and in fact, it’s even better now, as Asobo subsequently gave us a handcrafted version of Lake Tahoe airport). If you make sure you have “Fauna” turned on in your World Map display options, you should be able to spot the bears and that will give you a good idea of where you need to head on your flight (the bears can be a bit tricky to spot and they move around a bit, but finding them is half the fun I guess ; ) I hope that helps a little? Happy hunting and all the best! : )

[@joshfredr7846]

Great review, always a delight to watch...

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much as always Josh! Much appreciated : )

[@Vograx]

Another great review! Whenever I see a new product pop up I wait to see if you put up a review first. C170 looks interesting and I enjoy flying the C152. Always enjoyed those “not quite WW2 and not quite glass cockpit”-inbetween tech airplanes. Eg the M20 Ovation I really love. But with these apparent, and obvious, issues with the C170 I think this will be a pass for me. I’m thinking what else is awry under the hood that we don’t obviously see if they couldn’t even identify the obvious issues with the plane. Carenado needs to step up their quality in that regard. I’m not flying to look at pretty seats and seatbelts, so excellent texturing counts for nothing if the core of the product has flaws. Only way to let them know though is to not put up the money for the product. Seems very hit and miss with Carenado products for MSFS and I don’t like a product purchase to be a gamble. Thanks for taking the time to do the review though!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much (both for the comment and considering the channel when it comes to new products etc)! Same as you, I like a bit of post-war technology. Anything really, up until G1000s started to take over haha. The C170 is certainly in my wheelhouse. Totally understand where you’re coming from though. So far I haven’t seen any evidence of Carenado “pulling a fast one” as they sometimes used to do, but they keep shooting themselves in the foot a little, with this sloppy quality control (most of the bugs I tend to find with their stuff are glaringly obvious). That being said; personally I can tolerate a few bugs, so long as they are fixed in short order. With MSFS, Carenado do seem to have been quite proactive in this regard so far. The aircraft is actually very pleasant fly, so they got that right. Another day or two of polishing it up and I could have given it a glowing review! As you say though, you don’t want to play Russian roulette when purchasing. Always worth revisiting over Christmas, see what sort of a state it’s in then (as it will most likely be 50% off). You’re most welcome for the review. My pleasure! Thanks again and all the best : )

[@MrBillUp]

you missed a trick when naming your channel bro. While Into the Blue Simulations is perfectly adequate, you should have named it CLEAR PROP!!! 😁👍 Another great review. Thanks.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, well I wasn’t planning on spending my days shouting at a computer XD But now I’ve become a slave to aviation safety etiquette; got to give the people what they want! : P If there’s ever a channel rebrand, I’ll know what to go for haha. . . Glad you enjoyed the review Chris, cheers! All the best : )

[@natedogg7376]

Love the vintage looking interior.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, it’s lovely isn’t it Natedogg! Got quite and “Art Deco” vibe to it, looks really slick. All the best : )

[@johnclarke2553]

Great review, as usual. Interesting to see that you managed a tyre change prior to landing on the dried creek bed! They're going to have to do something about that pronounced yaw on takeoff, it's a real pain. I'd be interested to see a review from you on the AH Cessna 140. Cheers.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you John! Haha indeed! I did an F1-style pit stop for some fresh tyres before landing. Looks like the guys put the wrong ones on though! ; ) They really need to do something more fundamental to fix the sim physics for this sort of aircraft. It’s an issue with every taildragger more or less. The C170 is certainly better than a lot of others, but the waaay overly sensitive rudder kind of makes it equally difficult to control haha. A real pain as you say. Noted for the C140. It’s certainly in my wheelhouse, but I’m a bit on the fence about whether to pick it up, as obviously it offers a somewhat similar experience to the 170. I’ll keep it in mind, and if I’m a bit stuck for what to record on a given day, I’ll take a look ; ) Thanks again. All the best! : )

[@TheRealPlato]

Thanks, watching! may I recommend that you overlay a timestamp when you say "If you don't have time to watch, skip to the conclusion"?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much man! Hope you found it useful. KZbin (rather annoyingly) requires a minimum of 5 (I think it is) timestamps to be added to a video, in order for the system to work. I don't really like "chopping" the videos up into parts too much, but I agree that would have been a good idea in this instance. Noted for the future! Thanks and all the best : )

[@TheRealPlato]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I was thinking of a timestamp layer in your editing software but youtube's timestamp system would be good too. Thanks again and fly safe

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah, your idea is much better haha! Next time I have a “suggested’ skip, I’ll go with that ; ) Cheers!

[@BlazinMonk]

I was sitting at my desk looking to see what's been released recently as far as aircrafts, and as soon as I saw this I said to myself "I wonder if Into the Blue Sim has a video yet" and guess what the 1st video on my homepage was lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha! I love this comment for two reasons Jean; 1) I’m flattered that the channel popped into your head when thinking about reviews. That’s awesome, so thanks! 2) It’s great to hear that the KZbin algorithm hasn’t forsaken me just yet haha! XD Actually, similarly for me; I’ve been looking forward to the C170 releasing and was keeping an eye out for it. I opened up KZbin and one of the videos on my homepage was MSFS announcing the aircrafts release. So I jumped straight on it haha. Well, I hope you enjoyed the vid (and maybe the aircraft). Thanks very much once again! All the best : )

[@renevandop7333]

Like clockwork: the review I was waiting for 👍🏻

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha “ask and you shall receive”. Don’t ask, and you may well still get it anyway! : P Great to hear that the channel came to mind re the review. Hope you found it useful and or enjoyable : ) All the best!

[@renevandop7333]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Well, in fact I do have a question: would you be able to have a look at the Aeroplane Heaven Cessna 140 too?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Rene, I did give the C140 some serious consideration (all the more so when people request a video), but ultimately I decided not to purchase it. For me, it’s just a bit too pricey at 30 EUR, for something that seems to be broadly on a par with the C170 in terms of quality and utility. It looks like a nice enough little offering from Aeroplane Heaven, but I didn’t feel it would add much to my sim, that the C170 doesn’t already (at half the price). Sorry about that - hopefully I can be of more help next time : ) All the best!

[@PluckyUnderdog]

I love the aircraft, to be honest. I love the ruggedness of it. The pronounced yaw on take off is a pain but you get used to it. I also quite like that when banking and rolling there's quite a bit of resistance in the controls (did you find that?) versus pitching, which is a wee bit more sensitive. Not much, but a bit. I like that it's a little heavy on the yoke, personally. New to your channel, impressed with your content. Very clear, concise, and informative. 👍

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Rather been replying to you here in reverse Michael haha, but thanks very much and welcome to the channel! Really happy to hear you've been enjoying the content! Yes, I really enjoy the C170 myself. It actually flies very nicely (with the exception of the rudder on takeoff), particularly at low speeds I thought. I enjoy how it handles and I also enjoy its age / looks. Something GA, but just a little bit different. For the price, I think it's a great pick up. Cheers again, all the best!

[@PluckyUnderdog]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations no problem, the channel is great. Everything is watchable, entertaining and informative at the same time. As for the C170, It's one of my favourite aircraft. I love the simplicity of it. And that engine noise is fabulous :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Michael! Very kind of you to say and always nice to hear, as it’s what I aim for with the content. Happy flying! : )

[@hollywood1340]

CHT is a running gauge. If it's off the scale your motor is running.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ahhh, haha. I totally misunderstood it then James! I didn’t realise Carenado were in the market of creating new advanced avionics systems ; ) All the best!

[@wanderer5200]

What an elegant panel!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

It is isn’t it! Almost got a bit of an “Art Deco” vibe to it. A lovely cockpit in which to “sit” and while away an hour or two I have to say : )

[@wanderer5200]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes! I agree! Thanks for sharing!

[@captainpuppet3756]

how did you do that zesty camera overlay when snapping pics of the bears mate? Good watch as usual pal. gotta snag this one for some rural adventures.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi CP, Haha, that was actually a bit of editing trickery on my part, there's no such option in the sim unfortunately. Glad you enjoyed it though! Yeah, the C170 is a somewhat typical MSFS Carenado offering, ie not bad for the money. Certainly fun for a rural adventure or two as you say : ) Happy flying and all the best!

[@captainpuppet3756]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah good stuff absolutely love it. Thanks for the reply mate keep up the good work

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much for the kind words CP! My pleasure and all the best : )

[@SlowDescentToWild]

Great video - really tempted to get this one

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it. Overall I don’t think you’d regret it. It does have its issues, but Carenado do seem to at least get things ironed out reasonably quickly these days. Personally I really enjoyed it, it’s great fun to fly and good value for money at the asking price I reckon : ) All the best!

[@simtime7591]

Apparently (according to Reddit) the flickering screens is something to do with NVIDIA drivers, although im on a AMD system and it does that to me too.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah ok, thanks for the info! I’ve heard a couple of different theories, but I don’t seem to be able to do anything to fix it and it’s a pretty consistent behaviour. Doesn’t really bother me too much generally speaking, but it’s a bit unsightly in videos. I suspect DX12 might fix up the issue, fingers crossed! Cheers, all the best : )

[@SimFanatic]

Excellent review; and I completely agree that the obvious bugs doesn't instill a lot of confidence in Carenado with quality control; but nonetheless, so far I like the aircraft they are releasing and at least they are patching them! Thanks for posting!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much! Yeah, you kind of always know what you’re going to get with Carenado, so it certainly didn’t surprise me. I just don’t know why they do it to themselves though?! . . Much like you, I have very much enjoyed their output so far and it’s actually very good quality after a patch or two; I’m sure the C170 will be much the same. Cheers, all the best! : )

[@4secsharkmr352]

Absolute excellent review👍 a joy to watch for me. Not for my CC of course🤣. But that doesn't matter. Got the bird yesterday. A good value for the money. Take care and see you at the next review.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you as always! Glad you enjoyed the little C170 and it’s adventures. Another hit to the CC eh XD Ah well, at least this one is a cheap and cheerful bird : ) Happy flying and all the best!

[@twistedyogert]

I never thought that a tail-dragger would be easy to see out of on the ground.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yes indeed, the C170 is quite a nice aircraft to operate on the ground overall. Decent visibility and easy enough to control. I rather like the aircraft actually; it doesn’t break any boundaries of course, but it feels a bit like a classic car or something ; ) All the best!

[@chaselandorf1907]

Looks like the cylinder head temp is hot. I noticed that on mine, when I fired it up to just get a feel of operations.

[@ElCapiVargas]

Exactly the same thing happens to me. possibly we have to wait for an up date.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yes Carlos, certainly a bit of an annoying bug (and a little inexcusable that they missed that one), but I suspect it will get fixed in the first aircraft update / patch : ) All the best!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Indeed Chase. Definitely a bit of a bug there are the moment. As soon as you start the engine, it just works it’s way up to the top of the scale. Not sure how Carenado missed that one really. . . Hopefully they’ll get it fixed up soon enough. All the best! : )

[@4rebeln8]

Glad it was not just me. Thought something was wrong with that.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Not just you Lineman - definitely a lot of toasty C170s out there at the moment! Hopefully it’ll get fixed soon. All the best : )

[@Fryns]

So far very good and competent review as usual

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Lovely to hear! Hope you’re enjoying the little “adventure” as well! Thanks again, all the best! : )

[@hexagonalsky]

One bug I notice was the VR position in the cockpit, which currently places the viewpoint from behind the pilot seat.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah ok Adam, thanks for the info. I’m sure that will be addressed in a patch, but again a little bit sloppy from Carenado. I’ll try and include a quick check in VR in my reviews going forward. All the best! : )

[@hexagonalsky]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I hope so, I sent a ticket and they (Carenado) acknowledged it so it maybe fixed in next patch.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hopefully then. I know someone else had a VR issue and Carenado said they would fix it in the next update. You would hope they would fix something as fundamental as the view (I expect they will). Cheers, all the best! : )

[@taylorandtang]

Great review as always! 👍🏻

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks Jason! Much appreciated : ) All the best!

[@jamesward6503]

Always leaned when taxiing too keep the pugs clean while burning 100LL . Then went full Carb heat before take off. I had more problems with carb ice than fouled plugs....,

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers James! It’s funny, I was never taught to lean on the ground at any of the flying schools I’ve been to, but it seems to be a very prevalent practice elsewhere. Never had any issues with fouled plugs myself, but always operated from sea-level and spent reasonably short amounts of time on the ground etc. Certainly at the sort of altitudes in this video, I’d imagine it would be prudent / necessary. Carb heat before takeoff was actually mentioned in the C170 checklist; I think the only reason I neglected to do that, was again it wasn’t something I habitually did when I learnt previously. Seems quite a bit may have changed since I learnt to fly. . . All the best! : )

[@NicGoldenEddie]

I just have a Xbox series s, but I love it. This is obviously some next level on pc. But hey that’s why I love watching the videos of the pros like this Chanel. Awesome 🤩

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thanks very much Eddie! From what I've seen of MSFS on the Xbox, it looks very competitive and it's brilliant that the sim is now more accessible to many! That being said, don't let me stop you coming over here and watching some vids - really glad you're enjoying the content! ; ) Thanks very much and all the best! : )

[@NicGoldenEddie]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations always looking forward for new videos 👍 greets from Germany 💚

[@Vigulfr]

Seems pretty decent. Carenado certainly do a lot better with the more simpler planes than more complex ones if history with FSX/P3D is anything to go by so I guess they can't really go wrong with a 170! Well aside from the small bugs they always seem to have on release as you mentioned. I probably would've bought this if Aeroplane Heaven didn't come out with their 140 around the same time. I bought the 140 and am quite pleased with it, the addition of floats in the 140 really sold me on it as I'm a big fan of the more nautical side of aviation. I also really quite like the different cockpit colour variations in the 140 and really dig the more retro looking 'piano' switches it has which gives it almost a kinda art deco feel. Not to say that the Carenado 170 is crap, from your review it does look pretty good, but as the differences between the 140 and 170 are quite small (more seats and a bit more powerful engine in the 170 iirc) I shan't bother with the 170. Not that there's anything wrong with having both in the sim, more variety is always great and it's kinda cool seeing the evolution of the platform from 140-150-170-172 but I'm happy with what I have for now. Thanks for the review. As always with you it's top stuff, informative and entertaining. I quite enjoyed your little wildlife walkabout. I'll sometimes have a bit of a walkabout in drone view myself. Despite its many problems MSFS can be quite stunning and immersive. I've ended up with quite a bit of a backlog of your videos so you'll probably have to put up with some more of my rambling comments as I catch up over the next day or two. Oh and I'd love to have even more single engined tail draggers in the sim! The more the merrier in my opinion. I'd do indecent things for an Auster Autocrat and/or its many variants!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yes, overall it’s another very nice effort from Carenado. They still haven’t released anything with a clean slate, but their MSFS stuff has been very decent so far. As you say, the real test will be when they move on to something a little more complex! I’d love to see their SAAB, F27, or Shorts 330/360 in the sim, but I do hope they don’t slip back into their old ways, when they start modelling their more complex aircraft. Haha, well I went the other way from you. Skipped the AH C140, as I already owned the C170 (which was slightly more up my alley aesthetically and I do enjoy having just a little bit more power most of the time). I think they’re pretty much on a par with one another overall, although some floats would be nice yes (I’ve really been getting into that sort of flying of late as well)! I love MSFS for the opportunities and adventures it brings. It has its faults for sure, but it’s the only sim (I feel) where one can truly explore and “experience” the many facets of flight. It’s great for creating little stories like this etc. Haha, no worries on the comments! I appreciate every one of them and it’s one of the aspects I enjoy of having the channel : ) Hehe, maybe I misspoke. I’m always happy to see another taildragger, but I would love to see some turboprops, vintage aircraft, military trainers etc starting to come into the sim as well. Thanks as always Megadyptes, all the best!

[@sparkymarky68]

Lovely looking little plane and a fair review as always. I think for me, I have given them enough money with four of their planes so far and I don't think they offer me personally enough value in terms of handling characteristics or enjoyability. My two JF Arrows are the only GA aircraft I fly now. Anyway - great video as ever, love the nature shoot. Clear prop.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, but is the Arrow bear-proof Mark?? : P Haha, totally understandable of course. As much as we’d all like to own every addon, one does have to draw the line somewhere! Thanks very much re the video and even more so for becoming a member! It’s very much appreciated and amazing that anyone is willing to do so. I said the same to Peter; unfortunately KZbin doesn’t allow honorary members, otherwise for sure you would have been one anyway. Amazing all the support you’ve shown for the channel and really almost from the start! Hopefully you enjoy some of the early-access stuff etc! : ) I do enjoy the little photo missions / nature shoots. The bears and their environment were not quite as photogenic as the elephants in Ethiopia, but there you go. . . Haha, “clear prop”! ; )

[@squidge73]

Very nice comprehensive video !

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thank you very much Malcolm, much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it : ) All the best

[@340ACP]

That was a fun video, you are lucky that the bears didn’t eat your airplane while you were away…believe it or not that actually happens 😉. I would not buy it though, I much prefer the L-19 for that sort of bush flying and it also comes with floats which is great! Thanks for review

[@acratone8300]

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[@340ACP]

@@acratone8300 😂😂😂 love it

[@acratone8300]

@@340ACP Yeah I love the L-19 a lot. But I have to move the center of gravity forward in the overhead MSFS menu to make it land without turning sideways. Method 2: If purchased direct instead of MSFS marketplace, then the .cfg files are not encoded and can be edited in notepad. Center of gravity forward: increase first number in all both station_load lines of the L-19's flight_model.cfg. Or increase the front seat guys weight, decease for back seat guy. Every Asobo MSFS update rewrites all .cfg files, so I change those 2 lines in L-19's file back after each update (using notepad).

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, love it! I feel like I’ll have to pick up the Bird Dog now; just so I can fly around listening to this XD Cheers! All the best : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks! : ) Haha, maybe that’s what happened to my right landing gear - it was nibbled on by a bear! I did actually wonder to myself what the ramifications of leaving the aircraft there might be in reality. Luckily I’ll never have to find out though; if I knew there were bears in the area, I’d be flying straight on by! XD Do you rate the BBS L-19 then? Obviously it came out in a bit of a ropey state initially, but I hear it’s come a long way. Nice to have the float option as you mention, but I just really like the Bird Dig as an aircraft generally (loved the Sibwings version, if you ever came across that. . .). My pleasure as always for the review. Thanks very much once again!

[@dreambound.]

Nice bear spotting mate. I have somewhat mixed feelings about the plane. Would be a potential buy, if it wasn't for Carenado's constant bugs. Just a dealbreaker for me. Especially considering how much planes cost in this game. Anyways, thanks for the video!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, cheers man! If it was reality, I’d have been nowhere near this brave! XD Yeah, as I say, they shoot themselves in the foot. They’re actually been putting some really nice stuff out for MSFS (once it’s complete), but why release an aircraft with obvious flaws and bugs in the system. Did nobody try and land the tundra version? Did nobody fly the aircraft (from cold and dark) long enough for the battery to drain? Did nobody notice the CHT gauge was off the scale (no excuse for that one!)?? It is a great fun little aircraft, flies very nicely overall. You won’t be missing a *tonne* by not picking it up though. You can always look at it again later, when it’s been updated. Better yet, when it’s on sale. Cheers mate. All the best! : )

[@dreambound.]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I wouldn't get close to any bears either! However they're magnificent creatures and quite deadly too. Releasing unfinished and buggy products is a thing, that has been annoying me quite a bit in the gaming industry. Looking at you Cyberpunk.... But even if I want to fly a tail dragger Cessna, then I can just do it with a freeware mod. Well it is just the 172, but still works fine for me. Once they fix it, this might be interesting though. Cheers! Same to you!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, it’s the “deadly” bit that puts me right off XD Agreed though, they are quite magnificent. Interesting that Asobo had them roaming around in a “pack”, I thought bears were pretty solitary in real life. . . Yeah, annoyingly it seems to be the way of the world now. Most things are as “good” as they need to be and no better. Food, education, travel, governments haha. Pretty sad, but if there’s no kickback from it, then nothing will change. . . I haven’t really been a “gamer” (other than flight sims) for many years now, but I follow along a bit. Some of the stuff that gets put out is just laughable these days. Seems to have no resemblance to what gamers actually want. Same with movies. Anyway, I’m ranting again haha! I really do need to check out more of the freeware stuff in MSFS! I’d be keen for some 172 taildragger / float time. Trouble is, there are so many addons coming out, I often don’t have time to try much else haha. All the best : )

[@maximepatterson8345]

I really liked this review flight and the wildlife photography. Too bad the bugs kinda ruin it for now, but it could be a worth it plane once they're fixed. As for how many tail draggers we need? There can never be enough!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Great Maxime, very happy to hear that you enjoyed it! : ) The bugs are a shame. They didn’t really ruin my enjoyment, but they did sour my first impressions somewhat. Haha, well I maybe misspoke on that one, I love these types of aircraft as much as the next person! What I really meant, is that it would be nice to see a little more variety in terms of aircraft types coming into the sim. With the “quirky” physics of taildraggers in the sim at the moment, it would better (in my humble opinion) to take a little break with taildraggers and start developing them again once the issues with the sim are resolved. That being said, this was one of the better taildraggers I’ve flown in the sim to date. . . Thanks again, all the best!

[@SurfVR]

Btw I think the physics on this plane was great. And nowhere near just basic - compared to other msfs taildraggers.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I agree! It was a running commentary; I know early on in the flight I said the flight model felt “fairly simple”, but that was having only done the takeoff, climb and cruise. An overly-sensitive rudder, no yaw induced by the engine effects and no adverse yaw did make it feel a bit simple initially. As I went through the flight though, I very much came to enjoy the little C170 and thought it modelled much of the fundamentals rather well (as indeed I stated). I did specifically mention the flight model during the conclusion, as being one of the positive points of the product : ) All the best!

[@jamesward6503]

My CHT, Turn and Bank, Gear with Bush Wheels, all work like they should. Strange, might be the realistic setting in the menu.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks for the info James! Carenado patched the aircraft a week or so ago, so that would probably explain the differences. Great to know that they’ve fixed the areas they needed to though. So far they have been consistently good with patches / fixes in MSFS. Thumbs up to them! Thanks again for the feedback : )

[@russellharris5072]

No problems for me with tundra tyres,but a big hit on FPS.The main bug for me is the fact that when banking the aircraft,the yoke doesn't move at all.Surprised you didn't notice that.............................................

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Strange that we have such different experiences with the same aircraft Russell. . . Tundra tyres consistently causing problems for me. Framerate hit is about -15 FPS (so could certainly be better). The yoke works absolutely fine on my end though - animated as it should be. Very odd! All the best

[@mikecoffee100]

Another Spot on Video and I do love this 170 B The Best video for flying the 170 B now time for me to land it as well as you do .

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Cheers Mike! Truth be told, I’ve yet to try any of the V2 Carenado upgrades. I’d love to, but just haven’t had the time haha. From what I gather, the V2 aircraft have essentially had a round of bug fixing / flight model tweaks, as opposed to being drastically overhauled. I think it would be a safe assumption, that the aircraft will still not be “study level” but I’ve really rather enjoyed Carenado’s MSFS products for what they are - they’re beautiful and usually make for an enjoyable flight (like the Skymaster, as you say). Haha, I do indeed grace the real skies also (I’m an Airbus driver for my day job ; ) Many thanks once again!

[@mikecoffee100]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Coool as the Yanks say. :) and good explanation.

[@homeworxchannel4120]

I think its a very fun plane to fly. I think the price was good for what you get. It is a bummer to see bugs in such a simple plane though with the plane making it to the Market place. I would expect to make it to the market place there would be some testing from the market place managers but obviously that doesn't exist.

[@Grobut81]

We're seeing a lot of that. Seems everyone is rushing to get their planes out on the marketplace, warts and all, and applying the "we'll fix it up later" mindset. Maybe they are worried someone else is working on the same make and model of plane and might beat them to the punch? Not sure.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yes, sadly we are Grobut. It seems to be a bit of a modern mentality generally now, particularly in software / game development. I think this one was rushed out a little, to compete with the Aeroplane Heaven C140. Fortunately at least, Carenado have been pretty good with bug fixing so far in MSFS (whereas they weren’t always in the past). Everything I’ve purchased from them, does seem to ultimately end up getting fixed (more or less). Not ideal and I certainly don’t condone it, but I can’t see this way of working changing any time soon sadly. . . All the best : )

[@Grobut81]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I get how it happens with games. These companies have investors, shareholders and publishers who are expecting the game to drop on time, share prices might take a hit without those expected quarterly earnings, and they certainly don't want that. It's the rather unfortunately reality of publicly traded companies, it's nolonger about the company, it's nolonger good enough to put out a solid product and stay in the black, now it's all about constant growth, because that's how peoples shares become more valuable, and that's all the shareholders care about. That's also why there's been this massive push to deliver us less of a game, and then sell us the rest of it as DLC. It's not good enough for a game to be profitable, it needs to be more profitable than the last one, or there's no growth, and without growth you get angry shareholders. The outfits making planes for FS though, are they even big enough to be publicly traded or have investors? I'm not really sure why they would feel the need to push these planes out before they are ready (some of them it's minor bugs, a couple of days more work and they could probably have fixed it, so why the rush?). Unless of course, there's some behind the scenes deal going on between them and Asobo/MS that we don't know about, which might include deadlines. I woulden't rule that possibillity out, some sort of "partner program" scheme or similar, we've seen those before.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, very much agree with you on all of that Homeworx. Sadly it doesn’t seem like there’s any sort of quality control going on in the Marketplace. I don’t include the C170 in this statement in any way, shape, or form; but there are a couple of really crappy, overpriced products on the Marketplace. Personally I’m averse to Asobo dictating which products can or can’t be sold (different people have different tastes), but I do think there needs to be a much more comprehensive ratings / review system. A score out of 5 doesn’t give much scope for feedback on a product (and those scores don’t even work for me half the time any way). Anyway, re the C170; the bugs are a little frustrating yes. I do expect to see them fixed though. A very enjoyable product nonetheless and good value at the price Carenado are asking. All the best! : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yep, sadly I would agree with all of that. I very much doubt Carenado and the likes have shareholders, but they may well have imposed deadlines from Microsoft / Asobo - I must admit I hadn’t considered that (although realistically they’ve been working this way for years, well before they had any direct ties with the sims themselves). A point well made! Cheers, all the best : )

[@ellonysman]

I wish they'd put this on a set of floats❤😅

[@tankermottind]

Do you plan on reviewing the Nemeth Designs Yakovlev Yak-18T at some point?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Tankermottind, I’m afraid the Yak isn’t one I was planning on covering. It looks nice enough, but it isn’t one that interests me too much personally and sadly, as I don’t really have the time to review everything that comes out, I decided against purchasing this one for now. Sorry about that. All the best! : )

[@bcsimpilot3497]

This plane would be even MORE awesome on a nice set of floats~!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, that does indeed sound like a very Canadian sentiment, BC! ; ) Agreed though, it would have been great to have the option. Cheers!

[@benlogan100]

Beautiful interior

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

It’s lovely isn’t it. It has rather an “Art Deco” vibe to it. Looks very slick : )

[@posapie]

"You do have to wonder to yourself just how many tailwheel single-engine aircraft we are actually going to need in this sim" Well said ! I love the look of this vintage aircraft, but its really hard for me to justify a purchase even with such a tempting price tag. In fact I also skipped the Seneca from them, because I already had the Seminole. Breaks my heart - cause I would much rather have the Seneca.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Pierre, I actually love these types of aircraft, but it would be nice in the short term, to see developers branch out with a bit more variety. Taildraggers are not the easiest thing to pick up for new people coming into the sim + the sim doesn’t even handle tailwheel physics very well at the moment haha. The sim also has quite a few tailwheel options by default anyway. In my humble opinion, it would be better to give us some more tricycle gear aircraft for now and revisit the taildraggers later on once the sims physics have been improved. The Seneca is quite nice overall, although the Seminole does have its charms. Perhaps check again over Christmas, Carenado had a 50% sale last year ; ) Thanks as always. All the best! : )

[@posapie]

​@@IntotheBlueSimulations So despite promising I wont get another Cessna, I got this. Im doing a French Coastline tour and this little plane... is just absolutely marvelous. It just oozes personality. Love the way it handles and how its great for sight seeing. Also there is something about the cool of the ivory dashboard and those delightfully odd steering coloumns. I just love the whole stylish vintage thing its got going. Delighted to own this one.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, it’s ok Pierre - we all say we aren’t going to buy any more addons. . . and then do exactly that! XD Yeah, the C170 is really nice. I’m glad you’re enjoying it too. It’s very versatile; happy to do a bit of bush flying, but equally great for cruising around in (as you are). The “Art Deco” feel that it has to it, makes it as beautiful an aircraft to look at, as it is to fly. Enjoy the rest of your tour! : )

[@posapie]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes - I absolutely adore this plane . Something about the dash and that massive windscreen makes it feel like Im flying shruken '57 Bel Air. This is now one of my favorite planes. I did want to ask you something a little off topic. I noticed when you switch off your planes - you do not get that annoying flight log screen. How do you manage to to circumvent it... ?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Well once again, very happy to hear you’re enjoying it Pierre - I need to find another opportunity to fly it myself! : ) I’m afraid the lack of logbook pop-up is just a bit of trickery during the editing process. I hate that we can’t turn it off and I feel it kills the immersion, so I tend to edit it out. Hopefully at some point Asobo will give us the option to choose! All the best : )

[@mikechronic4901]

I didn't know you could actually step out of your plane and walk into the woods 😂

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, you can indeed Mike! You can’t “walk” around per se, that’s a bit of an editing trick, but there is a drone camera that you can do what you like with more or less. All the best : )

[@mikechronic4901]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations love your videos and keep up the good work.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Mike! Will do : )

[@Farmer_El]

I did hear or read somewhere that it has a "secret" autopilot.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ahh ok. I guess that would perhaps be by using the default keybinds or something then. Thanks for the info L CC! All the best : )

[@Cliffyboy1962]

Great review as always. Just wondered, do you ever use VR? As a VR only user of FS2020, I have a simple dilemma every time a plane is released by a 3rd party developer. Does it or does it not support VR cockpit focus mode? A total deal breaker when it doesn't. Each plane needs one VR user to purchase it and hopefully reveal via a forum, that it has or has not been implemented. If you had a chance to pop on your headset and just try it and then comment during your reviews it would be so helpful to all us VR lovers.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Cliff! I do own / use VR (though not all that often in MSFS). I will try and remember to add that to my review “workflow” - even if it’s just a comment regarding implementation during the conclusion. Would you like me to test the C170 specifically for you? Happy to give it a go and see whether it works. Thank you for the suggestion. Always good to have little insights like these. All the best! : )

[@Cliffyboy1962]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Already purchased it thanks and it hasn't been implemented. Got a response from Carenado's Zendesk though saying they will incorporate it in their next update.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah ok. Sorry to hear that - although at least Carenado will be addressing it. As I say, I will try and remember to include that as a point during future reviews : ) All the best!

[@davidbalbert8394]

What graphic card are you using in your computer as your demo's seem to be a bit of a problem on your frame rates...ie not all that smooth...

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi David, I’m using a RTX2080. My system is getting on in age a bit now (generally I’m CPU-bound actually), but the stuttering seems to have come about recently (and you’re not the only one to point it out). I’m still trying to pin down what’s causing it, but I don’t think the last sim update helped. I’m planning to hold out for the next sim update, as supposedly that’s going to bring some drastic performance improvements. If that doesn’t do the trick, then I guess it will be time for a system upgrade. Apologies for that; it’s never fun watching a stuttery video! All the best : )

[@davidbalbert8394]

Perhaps a 3090 Gigabyte card will improve the frame stuttering, no substitute for the best highest octane computer equipment, have a look at Scan prices...cheers, David@@IntotheBlueSimulations

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I’m sure it would; it’s a bit of a last resort though, given the price of those things. As I say, I think my CPU is the main bottleneck at the moment, so that would be first to get an upgrade at any rate. Thanks for the pointer, I’ll check it out! All the best : )

[@boilermaker7754]

Picked it up yesterday, my biggest grip is absolutely no P-factor at all., other than that, rather happy with it.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi BM, If I remember correctly, the aircraft had too much P-factor / torque etc initially. The sim still seems to struggle a bit with modelling this reasonably, so I guess Carenado decided to remove it altogether, for the sake of simplicity / ease of access. A little bit of a shame, but I’m glad you’re enjoying the aircraft otherwise - I sill enjoy a flight in it every now and then myself. Happy flying! : )

[@billybob804]

Trying to decide between this and the Cessna 140 from Aeroplane Heaven, I don’t see a review from you on the 140 but if you have any experience I would love some input :) Great video as always, much appreciated!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Graham, Yes, I’m afraid I wasn’t really planning on covering the AH C140, namely because I feel the two aircraft look to be broadly similar in terms of quality, but at €30, the C140 is a little bit pricey in my opinion. From what I’ve seen, I think either aircraft is a decent enough purchase, the only major issue with the C140 seems to be that the internal sounds are way too loud at the moment (and both aircraft suffer the same issue re the battery running flat). Obviously the C170 is a bit more powerful and speedy, but I think really the choice between the two comes down to personal preference. All this being said, I may yet cover the C140 haha, but it probably wouldn’t be in the immediate future at any rate (JF Warrior is probably next on the list). Sorry I can’t be of more help on this one Graham. All the best! : )

[@billybob804]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations No problem at all Sir, I appreciate the response! Thank you very much for taking the time to write this. :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

You’re most welcome - my pleasure! : )

[@K4Ri80]

Hmm didn't the wind just go directly from you to these bears while making photos? :]

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, uh ohhhh. . . : O

[@K4Ri80]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations too bad asobo didn't make them hungrier. Could be much funnier video. And shorter. :D

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, well what you didn’t see, is the 3 other C170 pilots that were lost during the making of this video! : P

[@illdisposo]

hello, a quick question. I can't find the 170 b dashboard lighting. Thanks in advance.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello, It’s actually just underneath the main instrument panel, roughly where the left knee of the co-pilot would be (it’s a bit hidden away). Hope that helps? All the best! : )

[@illdisposo]

OK, thank so much. Fly safe.

[@Fryns]

So looking forward to your rewiev.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thanks very much Fryns Fryns! I hope it lives up to your expectations! : )

[@morid1n]

Is the photo mode a part of MSFS or an add-on?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Wojtek, Neither I’m afraid. Just a bit of video editing trickery on my part. It would certainly be nice to see some sort of system like this in the sim though (and very easy to implement I would imagine). Maybe one day. . . All the best! : )

[@bettytureaud]

I also lost electricity on my first flight :( but still a cute plane :)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, glad to know it wasn’t just my mismanagement then Betty! It sounds like in reality the Master switch should control both the battery and the generator, but for whatever reason at the moment it doesn’t. You can either just use a generator on / off keybind, or the EFB “aircraft state” function as I did. Still a cute little bird though as you say and lots of fun! All the best : )

[@bettytureaud]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations CTRL e do the trick

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yes, that would do it also : )

[@ronkramer3476]

I like mine too - head temp erorr I wondered about on mine. I like this better than the 140. The 140 is {prettier) but not as much fun to fly. I wanna know how you changed wheels/tire size during flight. ;-)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Great Ron, happy to hear you’re enjoying it! Yes, I’ve been unsure about whether to pick up the C140. It certainly looks nice enough, but I think I’d enjoy the C170 more overall and I think the C140 is a little bit pricey for what it is. . . Haha, I did an F1-style pit stop when nobody was looking! ; ) All the best : )

[@kurohone]

Weird that the 140 by a different company has the same issue with killing the battery on a cold-&-dark.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, I heard that the AH C140 was having the same issues. Perhaps it’s a limitation of the way the sim models the systems, though I can’t imagine it’s that hard to work around. I don’t know how these things don’t get picked up though. . . Ah well, hopefully we see it fixed soon! Cheers, all the best : )

[@uwebestmann2477]

nice Vid, still learning to land the beast :-)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much! : ) Yeah, she’s not the easiest bird to get a nice smooth landing out of is she haha. Good luck and all the best!

[@Mig_welding6010]

Why do the tundra tires become reg wheels before landing

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ah, haha, that was a trick of editing. The aircraft has / had (I’m not sure, since I haven’t had a chance to try the update yet) a bug with the tundra tyre versions, where the right main landing gear collapsed on landing; so I had to switch it out for the regular version at a couple of points during the review. I induced a couple of the tundra tyre landings (crashes) for a bit of a laugh, during the conclusion. All the best!

[@paulphibbs7162]

Entertaining review

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Paul! Thought it would be fun to go on a little adventure haha. Glad you enjoyed it : ) All the best!

[@bluesfool1]

Weird how the tires are changing in flight. Took off with bush tires and landed at the bear place with standard looking tires. And then took off again with bush tires. Bug?? Lol? Never mind! Bizarre stuff

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, that was due to the little C170 apparently finding my landings to be well below par Jason! (there is a bug on the tundra version at the moment, that causes the right-main landing gear to collapse). There are a couple of clips in the conclusion of it happening, if you want to see me being an eminent professional XD

[@mrmisterno1]

I don't know why it's so hard for Asobo to fix the extremely sensitive rudder?? I understand if it's sensitive with joystick twist but even with my expensive rudder pedals it's a pain to use the rudder.

[@saren6538]

Same with my force feedback rudder pedals

[@bettytureaud]

Go in to CONTROL settings and make them less sensitive easy peasy.

[@mrmisterno1]

@@bettytureaud That's not a solution. The reason I have rudder pedals is so I can have a 1:1 linear curve. If I turn the sensitivity down I'm gonna have full deflection of rudder way too early which makes the plane uncontrollable.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, the rudder sensitivity definitely needs some work (and it has been long enough now that you would think they might have addressed it - although in fairness I have no idea how fundamental the problem is / isn’t in terms of the sims core workings). I have a pretty whacking big curve in my sensitivity of -50. Does the trick for some aircraft, but others (the C170 included) are still overly sensitive. I’m sure it will get sorted eventually. But it is quite a fundamental problem with the sim at the moment. . . All the best!

[@zachbender7607]

have the fixes that were talked about in the review been addressed in v1.1, or is there some work still to be done?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Zach, It’s been a while since I’ve flown the C170 (simply been too busy doing other things), but certainly the last time I flew it, all of the major issues had been addressed (if memory serves me correctly). I know they fixed the gear, pretty sure they fixed the EGT gauge as well. I’m afraid I can’t remember exactly what other issues the aircraft had - let me know if there’s anything specific you would like confirmation on. At sale price, I think it’s a nice pickup personally. Cheers, all the best! : )

[@pappyodanial]

Love the looks but my oil get so hot the gauge goes past max temp and the engine also seems to hesitate randomly like it has bad gas from sitting too long. Do I have to do an annual is that part of the sim? ;)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

The CHT gauge is definitely a bug, it's happening to everyone. I haven't noticed any stuttering etc from the engine though myself. Not sure what could be causing that (as I don't believe any complex engine behaviors are modelled). A lot of aircraft in the sim don't like to have their engines running right back at idle it seems (which is actually quite realistic), so if you are sitting for long periods, try idling at 1,000rpm (if you aren't already) - hopefully that helps. Haha, yes; otherwise maybe it's just time for an oil change! ; ) All the best! : )

[@mattval6293]

Hi mate is there any good websites to join forums etc in readiness for flight sim being realesed on Xbox

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Matt, Have you joined the two big flight simulation subreddits? They’re both pretty good. Generally have a friendly atmosphere and plenty of stuff MSFS related. I’m sure there will be a lot going on there, when the Xbox version arrives. Other than that, there is of course the flightsimulator.com forums. I don’t do a whole lot on forums / know many of them etc, but reddit is usually my go-to place for flight simulation news, content, chatter etc. Hope that helps a bit. Cheers! : )

[@06L]

another day, another Carenado plane ...

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, seems to be. I know they aren’t to everyone’s taste, but personally I’m not complaining! They really should just take an extra day to run quality control though. They’ve been making some nice addons for MSFS (I still enjoy most of what I’ve purchased from them), but they keep shooting themselves in the foot with sloppy beta testing before release. If I had to guess, this one probably got rushed out, to try and complete with the AH C140. Cheers, all the best : )

[@06L]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes, I like the Piper Seneca and the Seminole but I'm still in love with my first PMDG plane (not on X-Plane), the magnificent DC-6 =)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, but of course! I think many of us only have eyes for the DC-6 at the moment ; ) All the best!

[@cheesetoastie9678]

Is this aircraft now worth it, since it has been patched? Its probably the only decent one available on Xbox at the moment.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I would say so. I must admit I haven’t had the chance to try it since they patched it, but I’m told that all the faults I pointed out during the review have now been fixed. It’s a fun little aircraft; not hugely different to some of the other aircraft available in the sim of course, but it’s very pleasant to fly, the slow speed behaviour was actually quite nice and personally I love the aesthetic of the thing. I think it’s a notch up from the deaf auto aircraft in most respects. For the price, I’d say it’s a nice little offering from Carenado : ) Cheers!

[@cheesetoastie9678]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks, I ended up buying it. The default aircraft were not too bad, but the overly sensitive elevator and especially the incorrect performance and fuel values were starting to bug me. We don't have access to the community mods that fix these issues on console, doubt we ever will. I trust Carenado would at least get the engine and fuel performance correct... What a difference, I can actually reset my pitch and roll axis to the default sensitivity and still have smooth control, feels right to me. The only thing that is spoiling my enjoyment is the default camera they have set up, the aircraft already has such a low nose when cruising that it feels really weird, feels like I'm flying a Robinson helicopter aha. Having the default camera pointing so far down throws everything off, I can tilt it back up, but as soon as I try to pan the camera left or right it starts to raise my view even more because the geometry is all out of whack. It's going to take some getting used to, I'll say that. Edit: Forgot to mention, their seems to be a sound looping issue at engine cruise, either that or they've modeled a misfire into it.

[@chewkieroo123]

i like this one better then the husky but like flying both i have a horrible problem with the small planes i love them all lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, me too, on both counts! The C170 has a more unique character and look, I would say it’s also a little higher quality than the Husky, but both are fun and have their charms. All the best! : )

[@chewkieroo123]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations another one i really enjoy is flying irons spitfire after this last update made it more enjoyable to fly and use to be really hard to take off with lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Absolutely! I actually just finished recording another video in the FlyingIron Spit - wow! It was already a nice aircraft on release, but it’s come a long way in the intervening period. Nice to be able to takeoff without an ensuing catastrophe now as you say haha. I haven’t tried the latest patch, that came out the day after I recorded the video. Really enjoyed the flight though. It’s still one of my favourite aircraft in the sim. Cheers! : )

[@chewkieroo123]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations my favorite types are the seaplanes i really need someone to make another seaplane but i really like the one from indiana jones the pan am clipper or the ob cpo

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Never actually flown a seaplane in the sim - I’m sure it’s good fun! Not a seaplane of course, but have you checked out the freeware Grumman Goose for MSFS? I expect you’d enjoy that one : ) forums.flightsimulator.com/t/initial-release-grumman-goose-g21a-redux-ii/338063/6

[@CCitis]

I love your videos, however they have become very stuttery looking. Looks like your FPS is poor. I wonder if it is what you are using to capture the footage?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Gah, that’s frustrating (that you’re still seeing an issue). Really appreciate the feedback again though Jeremy, thanks! I’m still, trying to nail down what it could be. The sim is almost certainly at least partly to blame, it just hasn’t been as smooth for me since World Update 5. It seems there’s also a fair bit of degradation between recording and the video making it on to KZbin. I watched some of the raw video back and it’s definitely smoother than the KZbin version. As I haven’t changed my editing software, I’m inclined to say maybe the KZbin compression has gotten worse once again (I noticed in my latest P3D video, the stuttering was appalling - yet the raw recorded footage was nowhere near as bad). I use Shadowplay for recording and always have (so unless the latest set of drivers is causing it, I can’t see that that would be the problem). Anyway, as I think I may have mentioned previously; I think I will hold out until the next sim update, supposedly that’s going to bring big performance gains. If it still doesn’t do the trick, then I think it will be time for a system upgrade. Of course I want to make videos that you guys all enjoy and I know how frustrating / miserable it can be watching a stuttery video! Thanks very much once again. Bear with me; hopefully I can have the problem fixed one way or another by the end of the month (or thereabouts)! All the best : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Yeah, likewise WhiteHawk. I remember us discussing it during the DC-6 video. At the time I put it down to the DC-6 being a complex and FPS hungry aircraft, but it seems that wasn’t the only gremlin in the system! It does seem as though people started mentioning this around World Update 5, so I think the sim is at least partially to blame. As per my reply to Jeremy, I am trying to troubleshoot the problem. Even had the PC apart today; cleaned out the fans, new thermal paste on the heat sink etc (hadn’t done that in years). Fiddled around a bit with the sim settings. V-Sysnc @ 30fps does seem to smooth it out somewhat, but that’s not ideal. . . I’m planning on holding out until the next sim update, as supposedly it’s going to bring big performance gains (standing by for another graphical downgrade haha). If it’s not enough to get me back to where I was before, then I guess it will be time for a system upgrade. Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello gents, I've been playing around a bit with the settings etc. If you have a spare 5 mins at some point, it would be great if you could take a look at this vid and let me know if you think it's any better / worse? I've lowered the fps, but I think that's made it smoother? kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6iliXmBjJh7rdk You seem to have more of an eye for this sort of thing than I do - so it would be very much appreciated if you could give me some feedback! Cheers : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hello gents, I've been playing around a bit with the settings etc. If you have a spare 5 mins at some point, it would be great if you could take a look at this vid and let me know if you think it's any better / worse? I've lowered the fps, but I think that's made it smoother? kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6iliXmBjJh7rdk You seem to have more of an eye for this sort of thing than I do - so it would be very much appreciated if you could give me some feedback! Cheers : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Awesome! Super happy to hear it and thanks very much for taking the time to have a look. Yeah, unfortunately this is with the frame-rate locked at 30 (a little bit tragic, giving that I’m only running in 1080p). It’s certainly noticeable on my end. TrackIR doesn’t feel as smooth, neither does the drone cam, but if the end result is a better video, I’ll live with it for now. As I say, hoping it’s just a temp fix until the next update. The sim has gone backwards for me quite a bit in terms of performance. I used to run it with VSync off and that gave nice smooth flying (60-70fps). One of the updates ruined that (UK update I think), because all of a sudden the screen was now tearing with VSync off (where it wasn’t before). So VSync and 60fps was my preferred option for some time, but it seems since the last update, that is no longer feasible now either. . . Again, hopefully this update on the 27th will go a significant way to improving things. Thanks very much for your time once again WhiteHawk, all the best!

[@saren6538]

The cockpit needs to look its age, it looks to new would there be a mod to add this ?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I presume the aircraft is meant to represent a restored and more "looked after" example of the airframe. But I agree, it would be nice if the tundra variants had more wear and tear. There's no mod for this at the moment as far as I'm aware, but I see there are cockpit texture mods for some of the other Carenado products; so I presume it will also be possible for the C170 as well - maybe we'll get such a mod in the future. . . All the best! : )

[@jerryweirdspeed8943]

It's a shame the gps module which this plane is using was broken by a Sim Update in October and hasn't been fixed ever since. I couldn't even find a single review which mentions the fact that the gps is not adjustable in brightness and all the menu buttons are missing so you cannot navigate the unit once map was selected. And there is no tag in the marketplace which notifies customers of a problem.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Jerry, That is indeed a shame. Carenado seem to have gone a bit quiet in general of late (with the release of their 337 also due some time “soon”). It’s always hard to know with Carenado modules, whether it’s Carenado taking their time with a fix, or Asobo taking their time to upload it (the former I would suspect in this case). Yes, I must admit, I didn’t really investigate the GPS all that much with the C170. I generally try and avoid using default avionics whenever I can and I prefer to fly without a GPS most of the time also; so I simply removed it and didn’t give it too much thought thereafter - of course it would have been better to give it a once-over, for the sake of the review. Apologies for that. All the best!

[@jerryweirdspeed8943]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Have to agree on the fact that the GPS in this plane is anything but essential.

[@TJ.Turner]

How did you get rid of the tablet. Mine won't go away.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Hi Zacch, If I recall correctly, it was just a case of clicking on the “home / menu” button, at the very bottom of the tablet. Is that not working for you? All the best!

[@TJ.Turner]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I figured it out. It may be a bug with the XBOX version. The tablet can't be disabled until the engine is started for the first time.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Huh, yeah, sounds like a bit of a bug then. Well, glad you got it sorted. Happy flying! : )

[@SDGRTX1455]

Does it has a in build check list?

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

It doesn’t have a built-in MSFS checklist available, but it does have a basic takeoff and landing checklist included in the onboard EFB. Hope that helps : ) All the best!

[@CCitis]

You're fast.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, there’s a joke in there somewhere. . . but I’ll resist the urge to make it. . . XD I try to be (without rushing / sacrificing the quality of course)! Obviously it helps please the KZbin algorithm gods, if you can be at the head of the queue with these things haha : D

[@CCitis]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hey, happens to the best of us right! :). Its nice to see your reviews, as they are some of the best around.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, no comment! XD Thank you very much Jeremy, high praise indeed and very much appreciated! : )

[@CMACJAZZ]

Not for me plenty of better alternatives in the existing portfolio as mentioned very disappointing in terms of “ bugs” seems to be typical of Carenado where’s the quality control I wonder looks like launch product and get the revenue in preference to thorough testing.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Fair enough Charlie, totally understandable! Yes, I don’t know why Carenado do it to themselves (and us of course). I think their work in MSFS has been such that they *could* cement themselves as the “gold standard” of the mid-range affordable addon - if it weren’t for the bugs. Instead they keep tripping themselves up like this. You have to wonder how much revenue they would even lose by throughly testing the product? I can’t imagine a week or two is going to make much difference as to who actually buys the product or not, but for sure the quality of the finished product will. I think in this particular case, they rushed it out in order to compete with the Aeroplane Heaven C140. Anyway, their choice of course. A bit of an own-goal in my opinion though. At least they have been good with patches / fixes so far. . . All the best! : )

[@peter-mv5gk]

hahahahah like for those bear pics hahah (:!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, thanks Peter! I take the risks, so that you guys don’t have to! ; ) All the best : )

[@dutchpilotbobby4991]

How do you remove the tablet off of the yoke? I cant seem to make it dissappear

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

You should be able to remove it by clicking on the little button at the bottom of the tablet itself? : ) All the best!

[@MRJoos66]

Very good Job!!! Can you tell me how to use Carburetor Heat? I asked Google and didn't get a answer.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks Martin! Do you mean specifically how to operate it in the sim (eg which keypress), or were you wanting to know how it’s generally utilised in the real world? Cheers, all the best! : )

[@MRJoos66]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I don't know when to use it and when not to. And the function is also not very well known to me. (Google Translator :-)

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Ok Martin, Well it would be a little bit difficult to cover everything here in detail, but essentially you want to use it; whenever you’re using a low throttle setting whilst airborne, periodically in the cruise (to check for any icing) and any time you suspect carb icing (usually indicated by a loss of RPM / manifold pressure, or rough running from the engine). Conversely, you want to avoid using it at high power settings, as this can in fact damage the engine. In the sim carb icing is not a big issue at the moment, but some developers do model it (A2A for example) and it’s a good habit to get into. Basically any time you come back from a cruise power setting, you probably want to use carb heat as well. I found a good article here, that explains it all quite thoroughly: www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/fxd_wing/carb_heat.htm Hope that all helps a bit! All the best : )

[@MRJoos66]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for your detailed explanation. I already thought that this doesn't matter in the simulator. Still, I want to understand how it works and try to use it properly.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

You’re most welcome Martin : ) That’s great. Always nice to try and use the sim as accurately as possible, whether or not something is in fact modelled. All the best!

[@seeingeyegod]

looks like it can barely climb at that field altitude

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Certainly it was struggling to accelerate and climb at the same time, but at 7,000ft I don’t find that too surprising. Haven’t had a chance to look at the performance charts etc, but I was getting about 500fpm rate of climb, I think that’s pretty reasonable at the sort of altitudes we were operating at (on quite a warm day also). I could be entirely wrong though. . . All the best : )

[@SurfVR]

What planes in MSFS has proper adverse yaw modelled? None? If Im wrong, please let me know.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I agree, it’s not a strength of the sim at the moment, but I think it’s still ok to make mention of it for the sake of the review. The Just Flight Arrows do a better job overall of modelling it by the way. Cheers

[@SurfVR]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Agree! My comment(s) were made out of a bit of wishful thinking I believe. I wanted this module to be really good, and at first it felt really nice. Going back and forth between my fav GA planes (Arrow and 152) and back to this, I now believe they have missed out on a few essentials.. Even for MSFS standards. I hope Justflight makes a 170-175 or something similar with a true Bush approach.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

I see Surf. Well, I agree that the C170 is lacking in some areas, but overall I still very much enjoy flying it (seems we’ve almost swapped sides of the argument haha). It’s not up to JF standards for sure, but then again it is also much cheaper as well. Yeah, it would definitely be nice to see a high-fidelity bush plane, given the nature of MSFS, I’m sure we will in due course : ) All the best!

[@SurfVR]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thx for the chat! I really love flying it too, just after while you miss that high fidelity feeling. Great channel, I really appreciate you taking this time to make it easier on us. And also we all learn a lot from them. All the best

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks very much Surf, my pleasure! Happy to hear you’re enjoying the channel and great to hear that you feel you’re getting something out of it. That’s the aim of the game : ) All the best!

[@SuperLost4815]

Is there a way to remove the tablet on Xbox?. :)

[@floyd2406]

Just click a bit above the tablet. Where the cardholder is.

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Sounds like maybe it’s a bit different on the Xbox from what floyd is saying: on the PC you just click on the little button at the bottom of the tablet to remove it : ) All the best!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Thanks for the pointer floyd! : ) Sounds like it’s a bit different on the Xbox vs the PC. . . All the best!

[@SuperLost4815]

@@floyd2406 thanks for that 👍🏻

[@JohnMichaelson]

It's a little too basic and buggy for me right now, -plus that mildly flanged external engine sound is just horrible.- Editing this because it isn't an issue with the plane, just a video artifact!

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Fair enough John, totally understandable! The external sounds are a bit of a strange one. With the volume cranked up, they actually sounded really rather nice (but then you would have all been deafened in the video), for whatever reason, turning them down a bit did them no favours. In hindsight, I’m not sure that using the replay tool didn’t cause the “flanging” you mentioned. I’ll have to investigate and if I find any major differences, I’ll post a little update video of the external sounds. Thanks as always, all the best! : )

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

For what it's worth John, the C170 does indeed sound a whole lot nicer in actuality (I think my replay tool was producing the weird distortion of the sound). I've put together a small clip to accurately demonstrate the aircrafts sounds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6uUoGRpmKeVd8U All the best : )

[@AN2Felllla]

It's pronounced "One-Seventy-Bee" lol

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha, yeah I figured as much after the fact. Bravo popped out of my mouth at the time for whatever reason. . . All the best!

[@simtherapy9533]

You need to apply to National Geographic 😉

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Haha! I’m far too much of a wimp for that. . . In reality, if I’d even glimpsed a bear, I’d have about-turned and been back up in the air before he’d even had time to look up from his lunch XD

[@simtherapy9533]

@@IntotheBlueSimulations 😂

[@bxchris]

I spent money on crap Coronado products in the past. Never again

[@IntotheBlueSimulations]

Understandable Chris. I do think (for the most part) Carenado have upped their game since coming into MSFS, but I’ve no doubt some of their past behaviours and practices have put a lot of people off purchasing from them again. Quite a bit more choice out there on the MSFS market asides from Carenado now anyway : ) All the best!