Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad): An Elegy for England & English Morality

[@tavuzzipust7887]

According to the Left every people in the world has the right to a homeland, but not Western Europeans. China belongs to the Chinese, India to the Indians, Patagonia to the Patagonians, but (according to the Left) Western Europe doesn't belong to its peoples but to everybody. Total suicidal madness.

[@jenniferbate9682]

So agree x

[@c.s.2629]

Agree

[@macca9770]

Kalgheri plan expalins all….

[@christinethomas6763]

Any offers on why are Chinese and other Asian nationals not asked to identify themselves by highly-questionable-anyway category of colour of skin colour as people from other geopolitical areas are?

[@MasterSwo]

Don't worry, the rest of the world will follow soon enough.

[@simontalbot1792]

Hats Off to Peter for getting someone on from the digital sphere.

[@ashjbw56]

British indian here...I am on guard to defend the English culture and history a major component of western liberal democracies

[@stellaholloway6729]

Thank you.

[@MrClingclong]

Thank-you.

[@jonbaxter2254]

British Indians have a long history of intergration and co-operation. Centuries long. Some other countries on the other hand do not...

[@marmat5213]

Thank you.

[@BigBoomOfDoom2]

@The Baddestman "You're not British" Explain please.

[@wendysalter]

I just breathed in fresh air from this clear-thinking, straight talking intelligent man and felt relief from the suffocating pc bs of present chaos.

[@johnpound3327]

133 - 0 likes, brilliant interview

[@simontalbot1792]

" ...we are experiencing a siege on our culture by an enemy who is open about wanting to abolish what we have " - bang on the money

[@saxoncelt9823]

And the mayor of London is leading the charge.

[@gillianbarker8516]

@@saxoncelt9823 👏👏👏

[@simontalbot1792]

@@dagsby4685 Have you listened to the broadcast at all? Our culture , heritage , history , values , way of life and , ultimately , our race.

[@saxoncelt9823]

@@dagsby4685 You must be either blind or stupid or both if you can’t understand what’s happening.

[@saxoncelt9823]

@@dagsby4685 The educational establishment is cancelling many traditional English history topics. Erasing history is a key ingredient to erasing culture and traditions. Marxism personified.

[@eastendthug]

Sad that Carl is labelled a racist, "right winger" and every "phobe" under the sun. He's a national treasure. Could listen to him talk for days.

[@7king8debs79]

Sad but a consequence of his words though.

[@oddsman01]

He’s not labelled a racist by anyone with a brain or without a political axe to grind. Some people think you’re not a racist just because another blatant racist calls you one, you’re not a racist because of some imaginary privilege due to skin color and you’re most definitely not a racist because you point out the horrible ideas politicians try to sell to the public wont do anything positive and are just a distraction. Maybe we’ll wake up one day and realize someone who genuinely believes people are inferior or superior simply because of their skin color DONT CARE if they’re labelled a racist.

[@7king8debs79]

@@oddsman01 but you can safely be assumed to be a racist when you use racial slurs to demean people. I get he's contrarian but he hides behind the comedy tag and free speech to defend the things he says.

[@NZAnimeManga]

@@7king8debs79 lmao, you're woefully uninformed / a dishonest political actor, looking to take down an opponent.

[@djfoord]

He's remarkably fluid in his speaking, he can riff on a topic with ease.

[@StoofaTopDawg]

So happy that Carl brought up the FACT that being English is an ethnic identity. Much love gentleman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😘👏🏻 xxx

[@King-balloon]

@@harriercarrier1699 how strange it is that we even have to fight for that …. Madness

[@King-balloon]

@@harriercarrier1699 how strange it is that we even have to fight for that …. Madness

[@leedobson]

The amount of Facebook arguments I've had with other English people who don't even know/refuse to accept that English is an ethnic group astounds me

[@newweaponsdc]

It's strange to me that this isn't obvious. No one can "become English" - you can acquire British citizenship, but to actually be English, you have to be the descendant of English parentage.

[@leedobson]

@@newweaponsdc it really is that simple, Tolkien was born in South Africa to English parents, he was therefore an Englishman

[@ortacreef8557]

Carl: "Insufferable middle-class leftwing prats". Love it!

[@Mediumal]

I thought his precise description of vociferous Remoaners was quite on the money.

[@seanmoran6510]

Metropolitan Bourgeois Bohemians Peter Hitchens

[@justinw2232]

Spot on

[@alisonfayers-kerr9089]

Totnes!

[@GillianWatkins-jl3pm]

having grown up in Totnes, I can totally empathise with this description!

[@hectorshouse7348]

More honest, brave and smart than any politician. Thank you.

[@blackknightjack3850]

I see no one told you that Carl here tried his hand at being a politician and was so bad at it that he caused irreparable damage to UKIP.

[@davidmarshall3683]

UKIP caused itself irreparable damage by highlighting it's simply controlled opposition by removing the best leader they had that would've and was beginning to revitalise the party after the other con opp pos that is Farage left it and then Farage cancel cultured Mark and Carl with false accusations and perpetuation of media lies like the snake he is. UKIP deserves to be forgotten and Farage should shut up about cancel culture the hypocrite.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@davidmarshall3683 What "false accusations"? Carl not only did everything he was being accused of, he was PROUD of it. THAT is why UKIP sunk.

[@Alex_Fahey]

@@blackknightjack3850 Is the UK independent from the EU? Then, it sounds like the United Kingdom Independence Party won to such a degree that they don't even need to keep the party going. Even if we ignore that nature of a one issue party and simply look at them as a ruling/main opposition party, it's still ridiculous to blame Mr. Benjamin for it (or to credit him with the success of pushing through Brexit by UKIP). When the charismatic leader that built and maintained a minor party abandons it and forms a new one, you'd have to be an idiot to think that abandoment isn't what killed the first party all on its own.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@Alex_Fahey That clearly isn't what Carl thought or did you forget that he said he was tired of talking about Brexit?

[@markstephen1308]

It's when watching such great discussion like this that I realise corporate television is dead.

[@markgadsby5568]

Yep! Also try The Rubin Report for a US equivalent

[@evanlohning]

This is the best Sargon that has ever been

[@annefagit3305]

Even his suit is as good as I've seen him in

[@jungatheart6359]

@@annefagit3305 Carl has clearly dressed up for this one, but Peter still wins with the gold tie. You can't out-dapper the Whittle.

[@TheMastaRob]

Sargon just keeps on getting better. He's already a powerful intellectual force, in 10 years time he'll be a juggernaut, I have no doubt.

[@susieare]

Agreed

[@annefagit3305]

@@jungatheart6359 Peter had a nice green waistcoat on GBNews. But Gavin McIness is the suit champion to me.

[@jackybrown3917]

Such eloquent reasoning, makes me realise how badly educated we are as a whole now.

[@bieituns]

@@blackknightjack3850 Well maybe you should educate us instead.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@bieituns Ok. On what?

[@bieituns]

@@blackknightjack3850 You have deleted your comment.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@bieituns Nah, KZbin just deletes comments randomly. You should know all about that.

[@bieituns]

@@blackknightjack3850 Why should i know all about that are you another youtube bot troll?

[@angusdesire]

This man is an enlightened gem. I'm Scottish Carl, and will always be here to exchange jokes and banter because without that we are not.

[@BertPreast]

Anno domini 1923: An Englishman, a Scotsman and a Welshman walk into a pub. They look at each other... What the fook happened to Paddy?

[@gavinsimmons960]

Welsh man here and the banter between the tribe's of Britain is funny and vital to who and what we are especially when we come together under the banner of Great Britain

[@LawlTwins]

@@gavinsimmons960 It is! It's a shame we still have our small arguements and disagreements. At the core we are all the same. Glory to Britannia.

[@elkoposo686]

@@gavinsimmons960 ... And in the trenches of France and Belgium, twice.

[@BertPreast]

@jemimallah Actually my comment was merely lamenting the loss of one of our banter brothers.

[@liberexcogitatoris1792]

It is interesting that Peter an excellent listener and interviewer suddenly becomes very animated when Sadiq Khan is mentioned. If you ever watch the London assembly meetings Peter is the only member that holds Sadiq to account and any kind of scrutiny, actually watching Sadiq's responses/views often highlights what a corrupt, prejudiced and unsuitable mayor he is.

[@Zeebo1uk]

100%

[@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066]

David Kurten has had a few goes at Khan in the Assembly.

[@BehindThePringles]

Remember how triggered the leaders of the Remain movement got when people accused them of treachery for siding with the EU (and even going over to Brussels to tell the EU how to negotiate against their own country). I think we need less sanitised HR-speak and more calling it like it is.

[@jonbaxter2254]

I think we need a new EU from countries that are sick of the old one. Where all are equal, not just France and Germany

[@paulhevan322]

It does seem like they won both world wars and boney won at Waterloo when our betters go cap in hand to negotiations 🙄

[@lachlanbell8390]

@@jonbaxter2254 Even as an Australian, I like the idea of forming an international coalition with based Hungary and based Poland! Hahahaha

[@paryanindoeur]

Eight minutes in, I have to mention: I like this format and topic. We don't get Carl discussing history and broader topics at length very often. It contextualizes the 'current events' stuff... it makes momentary disagreements seem more fleeting when you have a similar view of the importance of understanding history.

[@Ryan-ys2bq]

Sign up for the premium on the lotus eaters, they do an Epochs on a certain historical event at least once a week between him and Beau usually, its only £5 for the lowest subscription amount and there’s plenty of other content too.

[@croweater6814]

We used to get it all the time on his secondary channels. Then he put it behind a pay wall sadly I can't afford

[@murdockhancock1660]

@@croweater6814 damn man you must be eating scraps out of a dumpster i feel for you

[@cubiusblockus3973]

@@croweater6814 He had to put it behind a paywall to survive. KZbin demonetised every one of his channels which destroyed his ability to produce his videos. Since making the Lotus Eaters website, his content has exploded. The more that subscribe, the bigger the lotus eaters become and can influence the wider population.

[@croweater6814]

@@murdockhancock1660 family comes first and as much as Carl's content, has the potential to make you a better person it is still entertainment and a luxury.

[@Alicja237]

Re Hannibal’s army crossing the Alps: apparently climate then was much warmer. Btw being educated in the classics used to be a mark of just being educated. Now it’s a rarity. Thanks to both of you for this conversation.

[@TudorsTigers]

That would have been because of global warming, or calefactionem cunctam as they called it at the time. All those emissions from elephants & cavalry horses played havoc with the atmosphere.

[@KenMoss2986]

We should listen to the ancients, simply because we are lost as a nation.

[@byMxqa]

I think the climate was colder, actually. Edward Gibbon says that Gaul and Germany were colder and often frozen, and Roman emperors travelled to Asia in the winter. Climate change still bs tho.

[@peetsnort]

Must have had a team of spartacas people

[@mistymoor7114]

Shock horror, you dare to say the climate was warmer in the past??

[@paulbrown1022]

Great episode Peter, well done for having Carl on. Twice as long would not have been enough! A very impressive guest.

[@tadroid3858]

Fascinating guy! His history related videos are as good as his political clips. Thanks!

[@tadroid3858]

@@blackknightjack3850 Apparently, you're clueless of history, as well.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@tadroid3858 I'm not the one taking the Stepfather seriously.

[@Gallowglass7]

Where does he post those history videos?

[@carlhartwell7978]

@@blackknightjack3850 Ikr, stepfather what a joke!...er, for some reason...

[@Gallowglass7]

@Derek B Thanks. He also has ''The thinkery'' and ''Ancient recitation'' where he reads audio books etc, I was just wondering since he has a lot of channels

[@yurekandsnakes]

Future author of The Book of Dadism.

[@MrToastercide]

Peace be upon him

[@Hippo_Croca_Pig]

I really hope this comes to be

[@philippriestman8516]

Do u mean Dadaism? The art movement.

[@TNTspaz]

@@philippriestman8516 No Carl has talked writing a book about being a dad and how that role has been lost and twisted over the years by modern culture. So jokingly he started calling his discussions about how to be a good father to your children and how to present good moral values as "Dadism". And it just kind of stuck

[@lachlanbell8390]

@@TNTspaz "Lessons in Dadism" and "sermons in Dadism" are some of my favourite parts of the LE podcast hahaha

[@11abrook]

Very telling that this reasonable and rational conversation cannot be had on MSM.

[@stephenhaywood5672]

Every is too busy watching love island and football

[@arminius504]

The media is anti western propaganda

[@xCrusader66x]

I am from English descent, with my father being born in England and myself born in Australia, and watching this discussion has led me to the realisation that I have been conditioned not to view the English as a distinct ethnic group with a distinct culture, history, and homeland. However I view my mother’s heritage, Maltese, in much the opposite fashion.

[@edwardbaran9326]

whenever I need a good laugh, I look up the video of him being 'interviewed' by Victoria Derbyshire. For that alone, he's a hero.

[@jaydee2719]

Reminded me when Channel 4 made the grave mistake of inviting Jordan Peterson on in an interview with Cathy Newman. Talk about a schooling!

[@stew7711]

@@jaydee2719 That woman was definitely out of her depth.

[@ElonDuck]

Mister Metokur - Sargon's Guide to Winning Elections is much better, for a laugh

[@FreeSpeechXtremist]

Late night rants on the old Sargon channel were amazing the best thing he ever did. A true legend and defender of western liberal democracy.

[@kenclark9743]

Yeah some "interview" they must have had a team thinking up an assortment "do you still beat your wife questions" which he turned back on VD

[@amarok5048]

This is absolutely top-class! I'm thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. (Incidentally, I am a Welshman.). Carl, it's a delight to hear your articulate and passionate observations.

[@willspencer8694]

All Englishman will stand side by side with our Welsh brothers

[@willspencer8694]

@jemimallah yeah liived in Wales for years

[@belledecaucase]

@@willspencer8694 💓💓💓

[@AlanWattResistance]

Little known fact about England: The Inquisition was never allowed in England, except to interrogate the Templars (with many restrictions placed on the Inquisitors: "no violent effusions of blood" or permanent wounds).

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

Scotland gave them sanctuary !

[@mahguvnah7403]

You say that as if it was a good thing.

[@elkoposo686]

@@mahguvnah7403 perhaps 'tis thyme fer a burning of the heathers on Moorish lands again?

[@darthkek1953]

We still had Witchfinders and the Witchfinder General though, Matthew Hopkins and all that.

[@AlanWattResistance]

@@darthkek1953 True, but the Matthew Hopkins affair took place during and shortly after the English Civil War. He took advantage of the chaos and instability of the time. Some people at the time opposed what he was doing, including the clergy.

[@TudorsTigers]

I'm only 15 minutes in & already this is one of your best.

[@eddiej6195]

Fabulous and intelligent conversation, sadly can't see where our next King Alfred is coming from.

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

Britain is dead.

[@ItsJustRyan89]

@@azza9652 the difference then was that you could fight, now you can’t.

[@ItsJustRyan89]

@@azza9652 and go to prison, leaving my children fatherless? Don’t be thick.

[@ItsJustRyan89]

@@azza9652 I’m not your mate. How are words and ideas going to stop the industrial scale ‘happenings’ in the country? When all of government, money, tech industries and social media are against you, what EXACTLY are you suggesting? This is the first time in history where the powerful know exactly what you think based on algorithms.

[@conorr2661]

@@ItsJustRyan89 You start small. You try to convince friends and family, or at least convince them you're not an idiot, that you've come to this belief reasonably. You make yourself the better man, so your beliefs look attractive. You then move up from there. Fighting online has its use, but this battle needs to be fought on a very local level.

[@MassiveLib]

My sense of well being is better when I identify with the idea of England as an actual thing.

[@MassiveLib]

@jemimallah we can enjoy them, yet know they are arbitry

[@Kaiser-gt4rr]

@jemimallah Lol Do you even have an argument?

[@sentinelprojects2172]

Excellent interview. Carl is very articulate and knowledgeable - knocks the spots off ALL our politicians.

[@NorfolkSceptic]

Boris Johnson did an excellent short TV series on why the Roman Empire was successfully run by such a small number in HQ That man is now, nowhere to be seen or heard.

[@TNTspaz]

@@NorfolkSceptic It's kind of why it's a good thing Carl and others didnt pursue Ukip any farther than just shaking the nest. It's pretty easy to get sucked into that venomous system and lose what you once had. Carl has only gotten better and more articulate over the years due to his varied experiences. Would suck if he was chained down and couldn't do stuff like this

[@NorfolkSceptic]

@@TNTspaz Carl has been on a necessary learning curve (which many MPs have not experienced, and it shows :) ) and has emerged as a very solid commentator. So solid, that he appears to have a complete disconnect with woke interviewers, yet with agenda free interviewers the conversation flows naturally. :)

[@NorfolkSceptic]

@@TNTspaz Someone said that 'where two or three are gathered together ... ' because with any more people a hierarchy forms, and unless steps (by skilled, relatively honest people) are taken, it ends up with trouble. It's why new political parties take time to mature.

[@diogenes9524]

Excellent discussion, thanks. It reveals how far Benjamin is mischaracterised as a fascist when in fact so many of his views are based on virtue, prudence, good conduct, traditional morality, tolerance and a knowledge of history. His dissection of the colonisation and destruction of our culture is particularly welcome. More please.

[@ianandrewoconnor9032]

He is characterised as a facist by the cancel culture activists, one of a long list whose characters have been defamed. I was advised a few weeks ago not to get involved in a particular discussion as the activists involved were well connected and could make life extremely difficult. I find that thought extremely troubling it’s how the National Socialist got started.

[@davidmarshall3683]

You just made me wish Enoch Powell was still alive ah who am I kidding I always wish Enoch was here.

[@-SeventeenF]

Carl describing his run for office as "a great adventure" is what made me realise that he's quite comfortable and content with his past. I find that to be a great quality in a man - a quality that's near impossible to have these days, what with your every move being catalogued and under surveillance.

[@peterlynley]

This was a great interview. Carl made so many illuminating points and I would be first in line to buy his book if he writes it. I am English Canadian and my country is also undergoing a similar cultural assault by mass immigration fostered by the same villains who are so hostile to England. It would be cool to see a reading list from Carl so sympathizers like me can fortify ourselves intellectually for the cultural battles to come.

[@bieituns]

Check out his lotus eaters channel, i think he has a reading list on there somewhere.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

His Lotus Eaters project has a reading list.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

@jemimallah your point?

[@georger64]

“I‘m a big fan of ancient history“. And so he is. Sadly though, nowadays most knowledge of things like old mythology and history comes from watching crappy Hollywood films.

[@timothymartin5538]

@king offa yep it's like the marvel films, making Heimdallr black, a figure known as 'the white god', made me go, ?, These people haven't even taken a second to understand what they're talking about, they've simply attacked 'white', because they have their own connotation to the word, completely removed from the reality of the word, especially in context. Then a bunch of leftists claiming to be pagans came out and said 'if Heimdallr is the white god', all the other gods must be P.O.C', I was staggered by the stupidity of their delusions.

[@georger64]

@@timothymartin5538 yes! I really didn‘t used to mind things like this as much, until I noticed that education and interest were thoroughly lacking. In 1980 many more people were well aware that liberties were taken in films such as Clash of the Titans, and what they were. Fast forward to present era, this is no longer the case. Everything is taken at face value.

[@timothymartin5538]

@@georger64 especially by kids, they don't have the knowledge or the experience to judge these things appropriately, but that's exactly why they're targeted.

[@georger64]

@king offa race swapping is the most blatant example, but Sherlock Holmes as action hero, and stuff like the atrocious King Arthur and Noah movies I find just as egregious. Especially because fewer and fewer people know tha source materials and realize howbad these films really are.

[@ianandrewoconnor9032]

It’s as simple as getting on your knees, a symbolic act of subservience as an Englishman it has a massive significance. It’s been hijacked by a group who wish to make a political point, it has much more significance than that and our young people are not being taught about the act of surrender. God help us

[@englishguy215]

Thank you Peter and to Carl as well. These are areas that need to be talked about, the values and traditions that make us English. The older I ave become, now 67, the more I identify with exactly the morals, values and ethics that Carl talks of. I now live in China and speak to many people here but I always uphold theses values as being the correct ones and take time to explain why I believe these are right. To my mind it is even more basic that identifying as English, it is identifying with what is right.

[@Tartersauce101]

Karl is my favorite Liberal. He even admitted here that his Classical Liberalism was what left the door open for the Globalists. There is hope for him yet.

[@martincoates2508]

@The Baddestman depends on which liberals you are referring to. Classic english liberalism is very different to american liberalism, or liberal democrats....

[@martincoates2508]

@@plaubelmakina8916 indeed. The subtle differences end up being very, very important.

[@TheMastaRob]

@The Baddestman American liberalism goes back to French liberalism, in the way the term is used. Carl is not that!!

[@mahguvnah7403]

@@martincoates2508 No, it's not a question of which. It's all of them.

[@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066]

I always thought that the Whig and Tory parties merged to form the Conservative Party but the Liberal Party was their main opposition until The Labour Party came along. But nowadays you occasionally get so many of the conservative party describing themselves and the nation as liberal. Anne Widdicombe refers to Boris Johnson as a liberal. Barring a few exceptions, I tend not to see the party as conservative anymore though. There are clearly different perspectives both in and of liberalism. I prefer to just not trust politicians full stop. How far can you reverse English values and still tolerate gay people? I felt that this question was obvious for some time but it was somehow (deliberately?) avoided.

[@wmurray689]

Carl has literally taught himself how to think deeply about the world and I find that quite remarkable.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Whatever. That doesn't mean he's right.

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

"Of all people only those are at leisure who make time for philosophy, only those are really alive. For they not only keep a good watch over their own lifetimes, but they annex every age to theirs." - Seneca Wisdom is won through study and contemplation, and from wisdom sprouts virtue. Everyone can do it, and everyone should do it. Study the Classics, study history and all the sciences, one's life will be better for it.

[@AlanWattResistance]

It's our boy sarg.

[@vishmonster]

New Zealand here, looking on from the Dominion for elucidation of the central soul of our culture.

[@perperson199]

🇬🇧🇳🇿

[@LawlTwins]

I'm so sorry to see what's happening over there mate. Stay strong NZ!

[@lachlanbell8390]

Watching from Australia. Been watching Carl since 2015, but nothing he's done has been so profoundly meaningful as his explication of the soul of English culture the last couple of years. Puts into words something I have a very visceral intuitive knowledge of, but couldn't explain if I tried.

[@sheriefelsayad5578]

You have no culture. New Zealand is just a product of European colonialism ..going to New Zealand and stealing the land from the indigenous population. Just like they did in Australia. You should go back to Europe.

[@LawlTwins]

Grow up, they aren't going anywhere lad.

[@simontalbot1792]

With Carl on his seeing Romanticism and Romance in history ; love his love of Tolkien and the Shire ; love his distrust of Scientism

[@joycemcleod8249]

You cannot joke anymore

[@breohtbrusmid489]

He was making some good points about how silly the left is but I saw no point in watching once he admitted his barber is Turkish- while ranting against immigration! He pretty much destroyed his own argument.

[@sim8603]

Yet he refuses to acknowledge that what makes Tolkien so powerful is his embrace of non secular ideals. He mistrusts materialist rationalism and recognises its inferiority but insists on remaining secular. The next step in his intellectual ability must be to open his mind to the divine

[@simontalbot1792]

@@breohtbrusmid489 I suppose one can oppose MASS immigration as a geo - political trend , but still appreciate different types of human being on an individual level - I , for example , reside in North Madrid , my best friends are: Argentinian , Slovak and Peruvian - yet I'm a diehard English patriot - as are they.....

[@sim8603]

@FuckOrange Hitler bro so trump was a populist but not a fascist. Fascists are socialistic in their economics and aim for centralisation of state power while trump actively opposed both those things. The reason why trump is a populist is what you need to look into. What weakened America so much that populism was needed to revitalise it? Those are good questions to ask, you should do some thorough thinking before you run your mouth

[@julialeigh5528]

Very good interview - haven't felt so good about being English for a long while

[@davidroberts1187]

Someone who's saying what I think, good man

[@stomach-turningthrush9432]

I love Sargon! Thanks so much for having him on Peter.

[@streglof]

I just realised that, according to the modern left, the Hobbits are far-right.

[@TimmsMJ]

Why? Because he/she has listened to information, read information and come to that conclusion. You must do your own research and come to your conclusion. :)

[@TheMastaRob]

@@dagsby4685 I could take a stab. They are "nationalist" in their love of the Shire, and their culture, and have a mistrust for "outsiders". They would never accept mass immigration, and were extremely tight knit and culturally homogenous. A lot of Tolkein would actually be "non-PC" today - I always giggle when I hear them talk about the ring wraiths, with statements like "I dont like the look of those black men". But the Hobbits are not unique in the above views, like I remember a conversation in Brie with the barman talking about not wanting a flood of outsiders, while the Saruman type spies (part orcs) were making dark statements about how there would be lots of people moving up the rode, and needed places to stay, and you'll need to put them up etc. Essentially the bad guys were promoting refugee immigration, which the locals wanted no part in.

[@TheMastaRob]

@@dagsby4685 Hobbits have a level of mistrust for anyone that lives a distance from them, for the most part, simply because they dont know them and never travel. Even other Hobbits in other areas of the Shire. But they never act out mistrust in any serious manner, since they are unfailingly courteous and well mannered, for the most part. However, what you are saying assumes that 1) contact with the rest of the world would only ever be good - when at the end of LOTR they close themselves off to outsiders permanently, after their almost catastrophic experiences with Saruman's lot. The shire IS a land a peace and harmony, in a way that many other places are not. Frodo says at one point that no Hobbit has ever killed another, and ensures is doesnt happen even with those that have gone bad... 2) you make no allowance the the unique culture of the Shire, and how it would be changed or even destroyed by even well meaning immigrants. Since they love what they have, are are so tightly knit, I cannot see this happening. This is a normal attitude for much of history, and in many areas of the world today. It's not that they cannot adapt, as e.g. they live in harmony with humans in Brie and have done so for a very long time, they more just want to be left alone. The OP is simply stating, I think, that a desire to protect your own culture from external forces through immigration, would be considered far-right. I guess anyway.

[@TheMastaRob]

@@dagsby4685 I think OP was not saying that he or you would call them far right, but the hard left accuse anyone with even an inkling of these ideals as being far right. Re immigration being primarily bringing people over in relationships - 715K people migrated into the UK in 2020, compared to around 250K marriages in England and Wales. I cannot find numbers for spouse and partner visas, but I doubt it would be a large proportion of the total.

[@mahguvnah7403]

@@dagsby4685 Multicultural society did not come about because people "fell in love and had relationships with people in other countries". That's a miniscule number of people. Multicultural society came about through top down policy that forced foreigners onto the existing populace.

[@LightningNC]

2014 -- _"I just wanted to play video games."_ 2034 -- PM Benjamin

[@DieFlabbergast]

For a 4,300-year-old man, this Sargon of Akkad guy looks very young for his age.

[@simontalbot1792]

One of the most profound NCF shows yet

[@robertcook9201]

Derisive humour between friends, ironically, shows the strength of a relationship. Saying something ironic indicates closeness. This is very male psychology. As society is increasingly feminised it is not understood, and increasingly vilified.

[@melhawk1352]

As a kiwi living in Oz I totally get it.

[@lachlanbell8390]

@@melhawk1352 How are you enjoying being trapped in this grand old prison colony of ours right about now?

[@melanie851]

Otherwise known as mickey taking?!

[@melhawk1352]

@@lachlanbell8390 It's un-frikkin-believable!

[@lachlanbell8390]

@@melhawk1352 Whereabouts are you? Are you getting the full dystopian nightmare experience, or only a small taste of it so far?

[@keithfarrington960]

I discovered my English nature when I moved to Scotland

[@MrRadiorobot]

I was a young English man working in West Lothian for 18 months in the late 80s....what an eye opener...

[@BigBoomOfDoom2]

That's interesting. Can you give some examples? I've never lived in Scotland so I wouldn't know.

[@user-rz2sq9fm2g]

Putting a comment in to hear any examples as this sounds interesting

[@michaelfern4079]

I discovered my Scottish nature when I moved to England. I also an appreciation for England I never knew existed. Beautiful place, beautiful people. ❤️

[@TSotP]

As a Scotsman, I am genuinely fascinated to hear these examples as well (from Central, not West lothian)

[@markhenryramsey9132]

I consistently really engage with the content of this channel (and via podcast also) thank the lord for such as yourselves and GBnews for pushing back.

[@bob1784free]

Of course the English as an ethnic group have a moral claim to England! An indigenous person is a person with an ancestral link to the land they live in. I am an indigenous Englishman, an indigenous Briton and I am indigenous of the British isles and I am an indigenous European. England is my ancestral homeland many of my forebears have worked and fought to make this country what it is.

[@bob1784free]

@Ubiquitary Its got nothing to do with citizenship. Anybody can be a British citizen via due process. This is our homeland and the majority of us have links here going back many generations. We have no where else to go! Its quite simple do you have ancestral links to this land or not? You can be mixed race and be indigenous providing you have a link. Indigenous people have rights under the UN charter. The right to preserve their history and their culture. It looks like we may need those rights given the current assault on our history, culture and way of life.

[@Rid3thetig3r]

@Ubiquitary Moral claims have no substance? So a person has no moral right to bodily autonomy? Never thought I'd meet a rape advocate, but here you are.

[@Kaiser-gt4rr]

@Ubiquitary He said nothing of you being a second class citizen, but nice try putting words in his mouth to win pity points to leverage your poor argument. He merely pointed out that the English are an ethnic group indigenous to the British Isles and have a moral claim to it. Are white Americans, black Americans and Asian Americans second class citizens even though they know they're originally from Europe, Africa and Asia, respectively, and that the Amerindians are indigenous? Doesn't the left claim all the time that the Native Americans have a moral claim to their ancestral lands in the Americas? Your argument makes no sense and is emotion fueled.

[@darthbigred22]

@Ubiquitary You are go fix your own country or assimilate. Frankly dragging you up to the modern era was enough of a gift and far more than your raw materials ever gave us. If anything giving you modern medicine, chemistry, a language that can articulate any idea, guns, calculus, flight, sail, steam power, diesel power, etc was far better trade than what the rest of the world gave us which was mostly luxury goods and man power. Clearly tea or oranges did not make India or China good enough on their own to do what the UK did. Reparations more like repatriation until the debt is paid in full

[@markncl100]

A really interesting interview. I love how Peter gently encourages his guests to reveal themselves. It allows them to articulate their views clearly and us, the listener to thoroughly understand them. Top notch. Well done all involved.

[@Andykerrfield]

An Englishman's home is his castle

[@jonbaxter2254]

And his castle is in England

[@anthonytaylor9232]

Soon to be :- Was his Castle!!

[@petofisanyi2420]

... now go back to your pod and eat the damn bugs! Also don't forget to be happy, bigot!

[@Andykerrfield]

@@richardbicker640 How many crickets would it take to make a loaf of bread?

[@Andykerrfield]

@@richardbicker640 Add some Fly agaric into the mix and you'll be hopping all over the place 😉

[@fredoldfield7538]

Dead right - as a regular visitor to London, every other voice you hear is foreign. Cockneys? No way...

[@iankelly5797]

I watch both of you and it was a great conversation. I can't understand why Carl is dismissed so much.

[@dunkirk1581]

Because he's a truth teller

[@TheMastaRob]

He used to be a bit of a troll :). But he has matured a lot. Also he doesnt mince words in his criticism, whether it's with Islamists, the hard left, or even the alt-right. Takes zero prisoners. So I think he draws fire from a lot of angles.

[@EFCasual]

Is he though?

[@kevinb6831]

@@EFCasual He was by the MSM yes.

[@carolrogers9428]

proud english woman married to proud scotsman, who wants that banter, still please,

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

The anecdote about the Magna carta seems to be a particularly apt metaphor for freedoms long won, underestimated and now unprotected.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Classical liberalism was never going to save Western Civilisation from....Liberalism.

[@istvantoth7431]

Exactly. It's simply just not that much of a counterweight.

[@seanmoran6510]

Liberalism and Tory war mongers dragged us into the Disaster that was The Great War! A Prussian Russian War backed by France We should have stayed well away from it !

[@baxtronicxavier]

🙌 🙌 Go Sargon! 🙌🙌

[@shaynesmith4327]

Liberal democracy, personal choice, personal responsibility, individual rights, reason and proportionality have been removed from the UK for 18 months, with most agreeing to, or apathetic about this - so, what does the UK stand for now??

[@bertrandrussell894]

An easy life, consumerism and not thinking.

[@petofisanyi2420]

It stands for Diversity and Inclusion. Didn't you know? That became the very purpose of your country. That's it.

[@PiousMoltar]

@@petofisanyi2420 "Diversity" is kiling actual diversity

[@chubbychubbs5552]

Will soon be writing a ‘Eulogy’ for England…. Is our present monarchy the only one in history to sit by as we are being invaded? Would all those powerful Kings and Queens in our history have allowed this?…..

[@chubbychubbs5552]

@Matt Washer Yeah, I can see that…..😔

[@johnday6392]

In e word, no. None of them, especially the Tudors. But what can our present Monachy do? They are gagged and powerless.

[@kerriepaterson]

Our country has lost its very special connection with god and been replaced with scientism. Reducing all experience to the 5 senses, hence we find it so difficult to conceive anything outside of the material. The monarchy has kept the symbolism of England, Britain as a whole hanging on by a thread. One thing I think English scholars get very wrong about America is that the founding fathers wanted to keep god out of politics. It’s quite the opposite! The experiment was for a pious people... Meaning worship god not government. In god we trust, not man. They knew power corrupts but if the people worshipped the ultimate mentor, Jesus they would never let the political class become worshipped. In UK we are different, constitutional monarchy, our monarchy encompasses/props up all our history, ritual and religion over the ages in its institution and practice. It’s symbolism is more important than we realize! The more I explore these ideas the more I believe we truly live in a symbolic world, we’ve just been blinded to it. I fear losing the monarchy would be the straw that breaks the camels back.

[@differous01]

Prince Charles (according to the late Christopher Hitchens) is studying the Koran, and speaks of being head, not just of the Church, but of all religion.

[@blackknightjack3850]

Oh? I didn't realize Carl was suddenly a monarchist. My how the liberalismist has fallen.

[@woahhbro2906]

I appreciated this video as an American. My country was birthed out what England has created since the Magna Carta. It's extremely important that we both understand and cherish that essence which essentially causes us to function. It's the glue that holds everything together.

[@aviolet3981]

I secretly think of myself as English. One set of grandparents from convict stock, the other moved to Australia from England to start new lives. There is a deep sense here of not being allowed to be ‘Australian’ unless aboriginal- so I have my secret sense of identity.

[@perperson199]

Australians are just Britons living somewhere very hot. Which is a good thing 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧 🇦🇺

[@windradyne8724]

lol and we Aboriginals aren't allowed to be 'Australian' or else we're race traitors so I have to keep my identity as an Australian a secret. Can't make this shit up.

[@aviolet3981]

@Leona Bastet perhaps your experience is… different to mine? 😱

[@aviolet3981]

@@windradyne8724 sorry dude 😣 I hope you at least enjoy the privilege of belonging here? I think you have more supporters than you’d imagine, not the airy-fairy-do-gooders but people who respect and value you 👍

[@Trent-m6j]

As an American Mid-Westerner, I think of myself as German. Based on our last name and the color of our gravy

[@petofisanyi2420]

I respect Benjamin's dedication to the issues he tries to fight. But, I also must agree with some of the comments below. Carl is so much of a good 80's/90's guy, with his Classical Liberal approach. You can't fight the progressive/woke or hard-left tendencies with the mildness and niceness of classical Liberalism. The further polarisation of Western societies at this stage are inevitable and may I say, ... necessary. But Carl is still being a gentle giant dinosaur in the middle, left there from the previous era, keep repeating his beliefs while people who already realised how deep the problem is, are lined up already on the right side. NOT on the far-right! But on the Right. Without the wishy-washy bs of classical Liberalism. The actual conservativism what Poland or Hungary is showing for instance. That is where 'fighting back' starts at. Everything else is just delaying the inevitable.

[@mogznwaz]

I'm a Gen X so slightly older than Carl but I find him a kindred spirit. I agree our liberalism is the best - but it's just too polite. We might only be able to save it if we abandon it temporarily and fight for it. Hard. The far left have a big headstart, they've captured our institutions, our schools, our kids. But we know the wheel WILL turn as the leftists go full on authoritarian. Which they're already doing. And enlightenment values will once again be the counter cultural revolution passed on by dissidents in alleys and cellars (or dark corners of the Internet).

[@petofisanyi2420]

@@mogznwaz you are right. Just think about this: the left abandoned their classical left tenets/tendencies (progressive tax, taking care of the Working Class, regardless of race, gender... etc) in just a couple of years. It's completely gone. Now the president of the United States is the furthest left president, ever elected in US history. There *has to be* an equally assertive force to balance that out! Classical Libs like Carl is very reluctant or slow to realise or accept, that fighting this new, very effective neo-marxist force will require people in the middle too, to let's say ""adjust"" their viewpoints or methods a little bit or to make bigger/smaller compromises in order to set the whole record straight. I am not saying that Gen X should throw their worldview out completely. But times are rapidly changing and if we miss the train there won't be next to jump on and history will be written without our input or values. (Which is exactly the goal of the culture-marxist far-left.)

[@lindaa9778]

I could listen to this guy all day long . Very enjoyable .

[@brentpotts616]

Greetings from Cleveland (home of the Indians) Ohio. Been watching Carl for a while.

[@ianmclean1066]

Clearly a very intelligent and interesting man.

[@stellifriends7785]

English common law is one of the oldest legal systems in Europe; and to my mind, one of the best there is.

[@TinkerersMind]

This is great 👍. Carl, and Calvin Robertson, as well as the rest of the lotus Eaters are the reasons I have been and Wil continue to give myself a classical education.. Carl and the others also made me reexamine my presuppositions which has improved me and my families lives, and for that I will be eternally grateful. He and the other are a huge part of the reasons that I have recently returned the the Church. 🙏🇫🇴✝️

[@Sukerkin]

The changes and maturing Carl has gone through over the years have been wonderful to behold. He does a masterful job of articulating what my views are.

[@zoeen5650]

My goodness I love this man!

[@johndowds5770]

When I was young and filling in a form ,when asked nationality, I would write English , I was quickly corrected and British was put in it's place . It's the subtle change and consequent compliance that has enabled our current predicament.

[@zapazap]

Grrr....:(

[@routeman680]

I don't deny your English identity or my Scottish identity, but our nationality is British. It is not a recent or subtle change. It been that way presumably since 1707.

[@maxwalker4121]

There is a lot more to Carl Benjamin than the public have seen through his UKIP candidature. It would be good if Neil Oliver or Andrew Doyle had him on GB News to give him a wider platform

[@stevenborg102]

True but i think his reputation is too toxic for their leftie producers and they wont risk the twitter mob trying to pull advertising and people like TomnHarwood quotting in defiance etc. It will be too controversial to be worth it sadly.

[@Apriluser]

We have forgotten God and He has forgotten us. A sad and terrible realization.

[@VI-rt7sh]

I don't agree that God has forgotten us, that's in incredibly pitiful judgement to make.

[@perperson199]

He has not forgotten us

[@jamesbaker3365]

He's waiting for us to return to Him, and we will.

[@Apriluser]

You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, for the Lord your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the Lord your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe you off the face of the earth. Deuteronomy There are lots of scripture where God turned his back on his people and let the consequences of their sin overtake them. I could have probably used a different word than God forgetting us. It’s probably better to say that God did not mute the consequences of our sins. But today is the day of salvation; we shouldn’t harden our hearts but turn to the Lord while He may be found.

[@Apriluser]

@@jamesbaker3365 That is our prayer every day!

[@mordanthamster2753]

An English Journey by J.B. Priestley is well worth a read. Great interview - thank you!

[@brokenrecorduk7809]

I've lost count the number of times I hear right-wing intellectuals say "I'm not a Christian, but I see why they say..." The Judo-Christian understanding of the fallen man is far older than Aristotle, Carl. Guys, it's time to face up to reality. You might not like it, you might not want it, but it is time to understand where your guiding principle came from and wake up to your religious dimension.

[@darthbigred22]

Amen from the US! Carl's ideas would just bring you back to the left wing of the 80s or 90s in the US. I guess he feels that will somehow not evolve back into what it is now. Quixotic thinking on his part and frankly, as a chemist, there is still no sufficient evidence that sugars form cell walls on their own or amino acids form into DNA on their own. Creation, however or whoever did it, is the only logical conclusion. Theoretical physics and Biology can say all they want but prove it I say.

[@drewpeacock9079]

Two of my favourite people

[@monsieurlewop]

Carl's UKIP campaign was exemplary. If only we had more candidates willing and able to take on and debate all comers.

[@goranpersson7726]

the fact that most seem to think he and dank had part in how ukip failed is quite sad considering it was nothing they had a hand in it was in-party politics that fucked their political careers

[@roywall8169]

Enjoyed that conversation. Thank you for posting it.

[@AngryManSam]

Very good interview, Carl came across as very well thought out.

[@Bandsmen]

Thank God that there are well-spoken and smart people like Carl that can take the fight against the woke people.

[@jerryweeks1231]

One of the ‘best’ of many ‘bests’. Thank you.

[@istvantoth7431]

The man himself..

[@jonbaxter2254]

The myth, the legend...

[@rkifismo8215]

​@@jonbaxter2254 ...the future.

[@sneedchuckington]

The suit

[@margotishrn]

The sage of dadism

[@harambae7014]

Absolutely fascinating conversation. Despite some controversial moments in the past and his tendency to be a bit inflammatory when speaking off the cuff, I firmly believe Carl is one of, if not the most important intellectual voice in the modern British right wing. There aren't many others who have such a keen eye for identifying contemporary issues in society while also formulating a critique with such persuasive rationality and moralistic weight. I really wish more platforms were brave enough to give him airtime and let him connect with a wider mainstream audience, because I'm convinced his message can tap into a deep, neglected spirit within the British population.

[@buckaroobaizuo25]

Agreed & well put

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Only the Edge Lords can save this world. No other way to break through the malaise of the normie world.

[@kevinb6831]

@@sadwingsraging3044 please stop it.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

@@kevinb6831 please cry more. Tim Pool isn't going to wake anybody up. Milqtoast fence sitting moderates droning on isn't going to defeat the Marxist that fully intend to change your world forever. Find another hobby.

[@kevinb6831]

@@sadwingsraging3044 I'm not 'crying' any more than you are. You do seem to lack social skills.

[@user-jb8gy6ud2f]

Dr Michael Sugrue has an excellent and witty talk on the Frankfurt School, I'd highly recommend it. "it's the ideology of superfluous German mandarins"

[@iggypopshot]

Another good one .. A joining of 2 of my fave channels

[@nickdougan394]

Peter, well done for having the courage to interview Carl, Carl, I look forward to reading the book.

[@andrewwebb2866]

How was that an hour? That felt like 15 minutes. As long as you don't get him onto feminists I could listen to Carl for hours on end, especially on a slightly more upmarket channel like this that doesn't dip into pasting tweets and attacking individuals like most of them.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

I miss my edge lord Sargon!

[@zoltanrudolf]

England and Englishness are very precious things.

[@konraddobson]

Such an inspiration. I really hope he ventures back into politics some day. We need leaders like him.

[@chrisbrinkley4688]

Proud to be your compatriot. Very well done.

[@mariahatton5720]

Really interesting lad, been following him a bit for a while. I now have a great deal more respect for him, what a well educated, in the traditional sense and sensible speaker. He needs more attention and publicity. I shall be seeking him out more. Well done Carl and well done the new culture forum for getting such a great interviewee 👏

[@stephenbellini1225]

Priceless a real eye opener, feel like I’ve been woken up and motivated

[@stevenrichardson1843]

You're both national treasures. I always thought I was Engish. My current partner is Thai and she thinks I am. My previous girlfriends have been Nigerian, Bangladeshi and Bajan. I have no idea why it ended up being so international romantically speaking, but they all thought I was an Englishman too. The idea that an English ethnic identity is somehow a form of racism would been news to all of those people while we were falling in (and out) of love.

[@Ciganka762mm]

Absolutely fascinating discussion. Thank you.

[@virginiaprime6866]

I really enjoyed this and as an english woman can relate very strongly with the question... Does being english mean one has the right to live in and on this land (of my fathers)? Thank you both for your thoughtful and well founded discussion.

[@carolroy52]

Please stand for parliament! We deserve representatives like you. Superb video. Two great people 😊😊

[@jakebullet1731]

Wow. Peter hits the big time getting Carl of Swindon on 👍🇬🇧

[@margotishrn]

Carl is a voice of reason in a time of madness.

[@douglasmorris8364]

Great interview, thank you.

[@rightwithya1]

Fantastic interview, should be a regular guest or even a Heresies feature ?