Carl Sagan on the Problems With Star Wars | Carson Tonight Show

Original Airdate: 03/02/1978
#johnnycarson #thetonightshow #carlsagan

[@rexmage]

It's a treasure that people like Dr Sagan could break down such ideas and have them be absorbed as easily as they do.

[@meijer78]

Billions and billions!! I loved Johnny's impression of him.

[@joebiggs4387]

You stole my comment!😅

[@meijer78]

@@joebiggs4387 Sorry. That phrase was in my head. Lol

[@AFMMarcelD]

Though he actually never said those words, they were popularized by the great Carson.

[@stellarocquie7957]

LOL !!!

[@stellarocquie7957]

@@AFMMarcelD WHO never said those words? That was Carl's personal tag line.

[@AFMMarcelD]

Dr Sagan got me started in Science in 1980 with his series Cosmos, an amazing terrific and very specific educator that knew how to explained the most difficult Scientific concepts in such a subtle way, your average layman could understand. I still can’t get over his passing at 62 in December of 1996, he had so much more he wanted to do, very sad indeed and a loss to Scientific literacy. 😭

[@cbass2755]

We’ll said Alain. He impressed me also. I was saddened to hear his passing too. Brilliant man. I’d love to hear what he’d have to say today about so many things…if they’d let him

[@Gurkha73able]

We didn't get the series 'Cosmos' in New Zealand until 1985, but as an 11 year old it captured my imagination and I taped every episode on Saturday afternoons with a tape recorder

[@scottgordon7754]

Him and Richard Feynman gone to early

[@AFMMarcelD]

@@scottgordon7754 Another loss for humanity too, his work in particle physics was so ahead of his time, and so were his other works, man loved playing those bongos like he was in the zone. My family and I visited his grave in Mountain View Cemetery Altadena in February 1998 on his tenth anniversary.

[@vbickford]

I didn't know that his grave was in the town that I owned my first home, while I worked at JPL and worked adjacent to him, fan girling quite a bit. I would have stopped by, just to have a moment, before I left for (ever)greener pastures.

[@cesarjom]

Even in Sagan's analysis and critique of realism in sci-fi movies, he was ahead of his time here too! Today the film makers of serious sci-fi movies make dedicated efforts to utilize physicists and other scientists as consultants, for the result of getting the science as authentic and based on real principles/theories as possible in their movies.

[@psw4763]

Sure love these interviews so classy and with intelligence. The nighttime clowns nowadays are ridiculous.

[@linwoodpowell2656]

Pp Pppp

[@zivaray]

Exactly!!!! Tv in general is garbage.

[@miketheyunggod2534]

Those shows today are for the dumber of the dumber.

[@twonumber22]

Interviews like this happen more now than they did back then.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*It's the audience. In 1978, the Depression Era generation was the intended demographic for late night TV. In 2023, the intended demographic are Millennials. They grew up on Disney Channel so it takes a clown to **-get-** keep their attention.*

[@joebiggs4387]

One night in his monologue Johnny mentioned Carl Sagan was getting a divorce. Johnny said “it will probably cost Carl billions and billions of dollars!”

[@stellarocquie7957]

Had to wait all the way to the end to hear him say, "BILLions", LOL. Seriously, though, his show was amazing back in the 70's, we always watched it religiously, even though so much of it was very difficult to conceive of. The man was a one of a kind genius. RIP Carl and Johnny.

[@Svensk7119]

Loved what he said about Socrates! What a brilliantly simple reminder of how we should think of our history and literary legacy!

[@johnl5316]

see: What Does the Science Say? | Dr. Richard Lindzen | EP 320 KZbin.....

[@maxpower6765]

This world needs more people like Carl he was such a great mind ✌🏼

[@jszlauko]

Yes, we need more people like him!

[@Mokhtarsketch]

There are lots of interviews of Carl Sagan with Johnny Carson, hope you guys upload all of em

[@tdunph4250]

If this was one of todays late night talk show hosts they would have had the guest join them in some form of karaoke or air guitaring to their favorite songs by like the 3 minute mark. The quality and substance to this interview done by the King of Late night is no where to be found nowadays!

[@Wisdom122]

Today .. some looney group would probably sue him for discriminating against wookies.

[@thor8580]

I sure miss him i would love to take a month and ask him about what William Cooper and Phil Schneider said about life outside earth. God bless Carl and Johnny.

[@lorenzoblum868]

Bummer also they did not have Ray Bradbury and Carl Sagan together at Johnny Carson...

[@philipneslow6609]

Where intelligence and entertainment met and produced brilliance. There will be many Tonight Shows, but there is only one Johnny Carson, an intelligent entertainer (and Carl Sagan, an entertaining intelligence).

[@grokeffer6226]

Fascinating and logical, too.

[@minnesocold]

Fucking Brilliant! Only Johnny could pull out this in formation from Carl Sagan by just asking questions. What a great interchange.

[@szimultan00]

This video has travelled in time only 45 years to find me. And how worth it!

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

Google/YT knows too much. I was reading a bio on Sagan last night and this pops up.

[@lorenzoblum868]

Serendipity.

[@TheAwmoody]

We all thought Chewbacca should have a medal lol.

[@zeppelinboys]

maybe props messed up and they just didn't have enough medals and George said "whatever Chewy doesn't get one I guess".

[@keirozj]

Extraordinary interview. Many things lead me to believe that ETs are and have been here … they have already been communicating with us and doing all sorts of studies.

[@stephenhall5694]

His description of prime numbers through to old TV broadcasts still traveling through space, is the opening scenes of the movie Cintact. I highly recommend the movie

[@josiahanderson9328]

Contact (1997) was based of a book by Carl Sagan.

[@chrisalva9474]

Brilliant

[@karenleemallonee684]

Yes, Johnny, it still boggles!

[@Svensk7119]

There was a young lady named Bright She traveled much faster than light She set out one day in a relativistic way And returned the preceding night. I think that was what he said.

[@BrandonHardaker]

Carl was extraordinary

[@Sheldonipudeli]

Sagan. Oh, I miss that man.

[@chefandrewsmith]

Sagan is so humble yet his knowledge is so overwhelming

[@GABELOGANPETS]

I agree 👍

[@solariskane3289]

✨ ♥ ✨

[@kathimills4247]

My son was born when Star wars came out in in 1977. My husband joined me at tthe hospital and his friend met up and left to see the movie. The fr.

[@rmartin7558]

There's a line in that limerick about her being able to perform cunnilingus on herself that they left out.

[@Sashabooboo]

13:00 we knew even back then. I remember.

[@victoriaallen1635]

Please show the Ray Bradbury interview!

[@oreopagus2476]

Watch the video: "Frank Peretti sermon the chair part 2". Sagan is mentioned at the 11:40 mark. Then at the 13:47 mark, Peretti asks: "Carl, don’t you know who you are? You’re a zero."

[@the_even_toed_ungulate.]

Now we get interviews with love island contestants and wonder why society is getting dumber.

[@CoolRay.]

Sad but true.

[@shawnredmond8402]

Lmao Sagan said "they're all white". Culture Warriors today will call him woke and accuse him of race swapping 😭😭😭

[@theyrecousins]

not quite sure what the lean of your comment is, but i loved that he said that - not even necessarily as a dig at hollywood casting practices, though that was probably there too - but just as an observation on the unlikely nature of the narrative universe depicted

[@S3aCa1mRa1n]

@@theyrecousinsWell hypothetically if it was white people colonizing those planets it would be accurate. Why would they adapt to those planets if they weren’t from those planets to begin with ?

[@quicktastic]

Primes. He already has the basic idea of the book and movie 'Contact' in his head.

[@nataliehelferty1438]

E=mc² is proof that matter going double the speed of light becomes energy.

[@Svensk7119]

They put a plaque on one of the Pioneer probes?

[@svjim1]

The Pioneer plaques are a pair of gold-anodized aluminum plaques that were placed on board the 1972 Pioneer 10 and 1973 Pioneer 11 spacecraft, featuring a pictorial message, in case either Pioneer 10 or 11 is intercepted by intelligent extraterrestrial life. The plaques show the nude figures of a human male and female along with several symbols that are designed to provide information about the origin of the spacecraft. The Voyager Golden Records are two phonograph records that were included aboard both Voyager spacecraft launched in 1977. The records contain sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth, and are intended for any intelligent extraterrestrial life form who may find them.

[@klipkultur3680]

Show us Ray Bradbury please...

[@BrentWigginsWords]

Sagan and Bradbury, the left brain and the right brain. I want to see the Bradbury interview.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*A white man in 1978 talking about the lack of human and non-human diversity in a blockbuster movie.* FASCINATING.

[@S3aCa1mRa1n]

He’s jewish.

[@ciucinciu]

disgraceful

[@Nourites]

fascinating

[@TruthSpeaker3]

I think Sagan is a vampire

[@Svensk7119]

According to the comic-book, Chewbacca did get a medal... he was just too tall for Princess Leia to award it to him!

[@Ramiarmuni]

Where was cloning when we needed it

[@InAMinMaths]

1 isn’t prime Carl! 8:06

[@Lee90000]

the intellectual snob forgot to say thousand million.

[@altonbunnjr]

He did have a point about the humans all being white and Chewy not getting a medal.

[@jaw-knee-5]

Snow Chewbacca exists.

[@tambarskelfir]

Sagan would have been so happy with the Rise of Skywalker, when the wookie finally got the medal.

[@revpembroke3082]

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarl.

[@danandlynncrivello9504]

Men like Sagan and ND Tyson have massive intellects and I applaud their efforts. However, they also possess the fatal flaw which massive intelligence always brings-- massive hubris about what man can and will understand.

[@Maxbecks1]

What do you mean?

[@donalddonald348]

How so? The literal nature of science is diametrically opposed to this.

[@arnulfoalejo3968]

Pensé que era Kiko!

[@lukasgabryel5881]

That old problem with people being praised for being smart at something and thinking it translates to everything else, I'm not personally a fan of star wars, but is a fictious story like any other and not an exercise in world building, it doesn't have to make every colour of skins, eyes, languages, hair, whatever else appear, the characters have a common language with each other to interact and for all we know the corner of the galaxy where it took place had only white humans in it, literally doesn't matter, could be all black like wakand for all it matters to the plot as race is obviously not the focus of it but the classic hero's journey of luke, it was written by a white dude in an almost 90% country so he based characters on the people he lived and saw daily

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

John William Carson 23 de octubre de 1925 23 de enero de 2005 98 años 79 años 19 años.

[@entertained9065]

I live in an international city, Brussels, Belgium, the centre of the EU. I cannot step out my door without my needing to speak 3 or 4 languages on the street to be understood, English is not common. Except of course, when I travel throughout the universe, everyone speaks or understands English. I’m yet to get through the first Stars Wars film without screaming in laughter. Best comedies ever made.

[@ToyKingWonder]

The first Planet of the Apes....a movie I loved, but something bothered me when I was 7 and saw it for the first time. Wouldn't the mystery of where he was become apparent as soon as the apes spoke English?

[@castafioreomg]

It was a product of it's time and very retro so yeah simplistic

[@lornacharles3858]

Psalm 96 1-13....OUR YAHWEH ELOHIM IS GOD AND LORD!!! AMEN🥰🥰🥰

[@BobbyLCollins]

1st Timothy 2:12.

[@spacemissing]

Sagan was a LITTLE too hard on entertainment, which is Not Necessarily better is if it is scientifically accurate.

[@Camop-iz9kt]

Good thing he never became a movie critic!

[@nataliehelferty1438]

Why is it that Native American Indians Meet In The Stars and yet Carl Sagan thinks as a Cosmologist he knows better as "white" as a man in America on our Land that he knows better about the Stars? Keep looking for your alien intelligence Carl Sagan...you might not find it here on Earth. Lol ❤️

[@nataliehelferty1438]

Luke and Leia Skywalker are Royal Chieftains of Indians of America with a Sasquatch as Chewabacca. I don't know if the Pale Indians would agree that they are "white". Stormtroopers are white. Lol ❤️ 😊

[@MilnerBenedictIII]

Dr. Carl Sagan is right.

[@nbro5529]

I love Star Wars, but I admit that there are so many things that could have been done better in all movies, not just from a scientific point of view but also in terms of story, directing, etc. Honestly, I wouldn't give a score higher than 7/10 to any of them and I'm already biased because I love them. I'm not talking about the series. That's a different story. So, yes, I agree with Carl Sagan.

[@rmartin7558]

He criticizes Star Wars for depicting humans in another galaxy, but Voyager had a phonograph record on it with human language on it, as if any other form of intelligent life would have any way to comprehend human language or what the hell to do with an LP record.

[@johnplaysgames3120]

They're not intended to comprehend the language. It's just meant as an example of the sounds and languages of the senders of the record, not actual messages to be interpreted (though Sagan certainly didn't rule it out bc, as he said at the time, we just don't know who might find this and what they're capabilities will be, so we might as well include a bunch of different things). There's a lot more printed on the records (and accompanying stuff) than just what you're simplifying it down to, including a key for deciphering what's there using objects, measurements, and whatnot that would be present and understandable to any being who lives in 3 dimensional reality, has sense organs with which to take in information, and has discovered a moderate amount of science. For instance, the top left of the plaque shows the hyperfine transition of neutral hydrogen as a means of conveying to the reader baseline units of time (0.7 nanoseconds, the frequency of the transition) and distance (21 cm, the wavelength of the light released by the transition). If one is able to deduce that the image is that of hydrogen, the time and distance should be understandable (even if the aliens call it something else) and that helps give a starting point for deciphering a lot of the other information included. The plaque also contains a map of our sun relative to 14 pulsars as well as the center of our galaxy, conveying both the distances to the pulsars and their frequency in binary notation. As this image conveys copious objective data, a spacefaring species might well be able to easily interpret it. Of course pulsars are a little more common than we thought at the time so the pulsar images and info might not give the pinpoint accuracy we were looking for... but, then again, if the aliens don't know our region of space (or haven't left their own), they wouldn't recognize it anyway. And if they do, they should be able to recognize what they're seeing. In addition, the plaque contains a map of our solar system. The solar system map is likely among the more easily interpreted parts of the plaque, with the probe shown to have originated from the third planet, assuming they're aware of our solar system. If not, it's still interesting information to have, right? I mean, think of it this way: If an alien probe landed on Earth tomorrow, there's obviously no way we'd understand the alien's language or gestures - just as they wouldn't understand ours - but would you rather we received an empty alien capsule with no indication of where it came from or who sent it? Or would you rather have it full of drawings of the beings who sent it, recordings of their language/sounds (even if we can't understand them, how amazing would that be to hear?), objects and representations of their culture, images and sounds from their planet, directions to their region of space, some indication of their level of science/tech, etc? I think the obvious answer for most people would be the second one. As for your question of "what the hell to do with the LP record," the covers of the records convey instructions in visual/symbolic language on how to play them, such as how to affix the attached stylus, at what rate of rotation the record must be spun, and the proper waveform of signals generated by the record (all numbers that are not specific/unique to Earth or humans). It also explicitly tells the reader how to know if they are viewing the images properly via an engraving of what the first image (a circle) should look like. While deciphering all this may seem very daunting, the challenge is primarily technical and might well be easily overcome by an advanced spacefaring species. In the end, I think they made the information as understandable as it's possible to make it for a completely unknown, theoretical alien entity, presuming the aliens have sense organs and have discovered what should be pretty basic (and universal) science. And, tbh, it's a pretty fair assumption that any alien race that could pluck a tiny space probe out of the vastness of space will have some basic science and spacefaring info (and that info doesn't change, no matter if you're human or alien bc we live in the same universe with the same physics and the same layout). Also, as Sagan said to his gf at the time, it'll be roughly 40,000 years before one of the probes nears any planetary system. Who knows what distant beings will know and be able to interpret 40k years from now? So, we might as well send a bunch of stuff to maximize the chances to understand stuff. And if aliens found and pulled the probes out of interplanetary space instead of waiting for them to run into a planet 40,000 years from now, then those aliens would be spacefaring and thus pretty advanced. It would probably be easy enough for a species that has mastered interplanetary travel to interpret our basic scientific landmarks and, using them, interpret much of the rest of the important info (as opposed to the just interesting stuff).

[@steffenritter7497]

I always had a love/hate relationship with Carl Sagan. I loved his intelligence and relative wisdom, but hated his politics. But he was nevertheless a fascinating person to listen to. Yes I read, and still have in my library, his book "Cosmos". In this episode, I thought that Johnny acquitted himself quite well ... which speaks well of HIS intelligence.

[@theincredibletvchannel4297]

What difference does a person`s politics make to liking someone ?

[@steffenritter7497]

@@theincredibletvchannel4297 To a certain extent, politics is quite "the destroyer" of human relationships. Recently, I've seen those whose politics I disagree with as a potential danger to my country ... the country I fought and almost died for in Vietnam. But back when Dr. Sagan was still with us, I merely objected to his brand of politics. Note that, back in the day, if Sagan was on TV, or I could listen to him on radio, he always challenged the intellect. I've had many friends who have been on the opposite side of the political fence. To a great extent, their arguments against my politics sharpened and honed my own thinking ... even if I was vehemently arguing with friends.

[@castafioreomg]

Ah yes because his beliefs don't align with yours of course he is the dumb one lol

[@aa697]

One is not considered a prime number any longer since the early 20th century.

[@SaintMartins]

Fans of Star Wars will start attacking in 3...2...1

[@DANIEL-ho4gr]

Literalmente. ¡SE LOS METIÓ A TODOS EN EL BOLSILLO.!

[@davidsthubbins176]

You’re an anti-Wookite!

[@MrMisterock]

wrong. The TV waves would have travel with the spin of the earth. The athmosphere spins with the earth. And also he is wrong about the distance to the Sun. 8 minutes for the light to travel for the Sun he says. Oh man, this guy is making fun, it's a Johnny Carson show so it makes sense. looool

[@jszlauko]

What the heck does the spin of the earth have to do with the radio waves that have been sent out? If a radio broadcast occurred 75 years ago, then that broadcast is now 75 light years away from us, and someone who is 75 lights years away from us is just now receiving it. PERIOD! The spin of the earth has NOTHING to do with that! Then you say that he is wrong about the distance to the sun and it being 8 minutes. HE IS NOT WRONG!!!! The light that leaves the sun takes 8 minutes to get to us here on Earth as the sun is 8 light minutes away! HOW IS HE WRONG ON THAT? And NO, Carl Sagen is not just making fun! He is being honest and speaking nothing but scientific fact!

[@Ben.878]

10:20

[@palkokity8235]

It is movie filmed on planet Earth made by humans in Hollywood before the development of CGI. What the heck do you expect for species diversity?! It does not require an astrophysicist to figure that one out. Should we just give up on imagination and creativity until we are part of a united federation of planets? The only other productions at the time with that big of an imagination were Star Wars and The Muppets. The first was equally limited by technology at the time and the second relied on hand held puppets and guest star humans. Why didn't he tear into 2001 for only having humanoids...and very upright apes. Oh, wait, it had a black obelisk for representing diversity!

[@nataliehelferty1438]

Sorry our skintone offends you Carl. Lol

[@Mentalista37D]

Future Data Verification Procedure. Early Start

[@BrianAdams-dt1ks]

By this time, Saganstein had gone completely Hollywood.

[@fernandovergara3119]

Mujer muy falso

[@lannyfuller8367]

Will this modern woke stuff never end? =)

[@ianbideshi8021]

Apparently Carl had a strong hatred of Christianity

[@_JustinCase_]

So, what's your point?

[@jszlauko]

I wouldn't say he had a strong hatred of Christianity as much as he saw no need in it. In other words, there is no evidence of a god, and thus, why believe in it. So, what's your problem?

[@james1795]

He was more concerned about facts than useless bible thumping.

[@miketheyunggod2534]

@@jszlauko there's no evidence of intelligent life yet he believes there is.

[@miketheyunggod2534]

@@james1795 the fact that you're alive shows there's a God.

[@kevinrhea7332]

What a dork Sagan can be sometime Jesus Christ

[@_JustinCase_]

And eventually, yes, there will be an orange human being. 😉

[@Frank00]

He was President

[@jillkjv3816]

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - Genesis 1:1. I believe Him over Carl Sagan. 😁

[@cbass2755]

👍

[@jszlauko]

Believe who? Or what? Some scriptures written 2000 years ago by anonymous authors who wrote nothing more than what was observable by them at the time? Carl Sagan was at the forefront of science which has led to the discovery of many things that have gotten us to a better understanding of the universe. What advances of understanding the workings of the universe has the bible gotten us? How may lifesaving advances in medicine have come about due to the bible? The answer is NONE! You state "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"...yeah, so what? It's a claim by ancient people grasping at straws to understand life. What's your point?

[@jillkjv3816]

@@jszlauko So you're calling Jesus a liar? "Let God be true and every man a liar." Jesus was perfect. You are not. Jesus died on the cross to save you from your sins. You cannot save yourself. Turn to Him in faith. That's what is beautiful. Not "evolutionary THEORY." :)

[@jszlauko]

@@jillkjv3816 - No, I am not calling Jesus a liar as I don't even believe there was a Jesus in the first place! It would be like calling Santa Claus a liar. You say Jesus died on the cross for our sins. You say that as if it's a fact. IT'S NOT!!! That is just what was written long ago by anonymous authors that has no basis in evidence. It's just a story! Funny that you capitalize "theory", as if you think it is not true. Evolution is a fact! Life evolves! Plus, evolution has NOTHING to do with whether or not a god exists! If evolution was turned on its head and proved incorrect, one would still need to prove god! For all we know, universal pixies created the universe and life.

[@josephcooper6692]

But we aren’t saved from sin …. sin is alive and well.

[@raymondlancaster3355]

Ok so being woke got applause even back then. How was everybody in the past so dumb and prejudiced and everybody now is so smart and aware? People learn and change. Ease up. Most people are just living their lives. It was a movie written by people with their experiences. Let the geniuses start screaming at this comment….

[@filipinowhiteboy]

Really makes you realize just how far back this woke nonsense goes.

[@mercedes523]

Sagan was such an exciting guy! Not!

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Carl's woke interpretation of Star Wars. 😑

[@QuadMochaMatti]

He's kind of like the honky Neil deGrasse Tyson. Never did watch either of them.

[@jszlauko]

Neil deGrasse Tyson basically modeled himself after Carl Sagan, after meeting him at his beginning days in college, with much admiration for him

[@johnl5316]

13:15...He was wrong about any 'inadvertently changing our climate", in any significant way other than heat extra heat from the cities we built.

[@AFMMarcelD]

Well you ought to watch his 17 uninterrupted minutes speaking to congress about climate change. Look for it here in YT Carl Sagan talks climate change December 10 1985.

[@lorenzoblum868]

What are you talking about? 1978, we already knew we were on the brink of collapsing due to MDW and pollutions and here we are 44 years later whining. Appalling.

[@AFMMarcelD]

@@lorenzoblum868 👍 thumbs up in both of your statements my humanist friend Lorenzo, and I agree 100%

[@Frank00]

There is no man made global warming. The climate has always changed.

[@jszlauko]

@@Frank00 - Yes, but apparently there is proof that we are helping it along. Need to look at all the data.

[@lenrely2033]

There's an incredible contradiction in the first 3 minutes of this interview. The whole interview is great, but the belief that humans evolved randomly is one of those beliefs that is possibly dead wrong. The thing is people who predict in the future we'll be part of an interstellar community (or that we already are) are the same people who believe in bigfoot, and Chewbacca is basically a cultural representation of bigfoot that Carl is sticking up for. Both of those are cultural beliefs that haven't progressed in 40 years, that humans are alone in the universe and that bigfoot gets no respect. You could step back into 1978 and say the same thing.

[@jszlauko]

And your point is?....

[@james1795]

@@jszlauko. His point is.... how to babble on making no point.

[@lenrely2033]

Why are you non-intellectuals watching a Carl Sagan video? What a couple of short-billed dowitchers.

[@jszlauko]

Funny that you say "the belief that humans evolved randomly is one of those beliefs that is possibly dead wrong.". Uh yeah, and it could also be dead right! You also need to be aware of the fact that evolution is NOT purely random. And as I asked before, what is your point?

[@lenrely2033]

@@jszlauko I think I made it very clear. Carl's statements about evolution you would expect from a certain group of people. His statement about Chewbacca not getting a medal you'd expect from a very different group of people. I think when you see criticisms of evolution you bristle at them and that's all you're able to read. I'm saying YOU USUALLY DON'T SEE THOSE 2 THINGS IN THE SAME PERSON.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

Says that it's extremely unlikely humans just like us could develop in another galaxy, then complains how odd it is they didn't develop all the same colours also? contradictory attitude.

[@wesleytaylor2623]

So bore the people with facts instead of entertaining them.

[@echance12]

He's saying make it more realistic not take away the entertainment portion of it.

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

Love it when people are proud of announcing that they're willfully stupid.

[@joebiggs4387]

For people who are interested in what they’re talking about, it is entertainment.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AFMMarcelD]

If you wish for entertainment just watch Gladiator. Dr. Sagan was a class act, and an amazing wonderful educator.

[@lorenzoblum868]

This is why we're doomed. We distinguish entertainment from knowledge. As if it were painful to learn. This is intentional. Our system based on exploitation wants us to remain ignorant because knowledge is freedom.

[@bobsbigboys]

Uh....1 is not a prime number Carl. Time to get off that high horse about Star Wars.

[@janetfabrizio4473]

It’s a movie. Lighten up. I find Sagan arrogant. We don’t know 1% of what the universe holds. Since his passing much more has been discovered and much more will be discovered long after we are gone. For him to be held as the ultimate expert is laughable.