Carole Lombard Airplane Crash Location with on site visit, January 16, 1942.

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@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 Жыл бұрын
Clark Gable had to be restrained from going to the crash site, he was so desperate to find her. Someone said to him, "Carole wouldn't want you to see her like this" and that's what stopped him from going up there. He had given her a pair of ruby clips as a gift and a piece of one was found in the wreckage. He wore it in a locket for the rest of his life.
@andrea050405
@andrea050405 Жыл бұрын
Yeh the other one was found by a guy on KZbin pretty disgusting
@lilgrlQ1
@lilgrlQ1 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrea050405I just saw another video made by the guy who has that clip & with it was also her mangled wedding ring & many other pieces of her personal jewelry, which included ruby & sapphire rings, a diamond bracelet, jeweled pins & in addition, had pictures of her wearing many of those pieces! These were all very expensive items, but according to him, he found them all at the Crash Site - 40-50 years later! I find that Very hard to believe, but that's the story he was handing to the people he was showing it off to... If by Any chance that was true, I don't believe it was right he should have them!
@VICTORIAPAVLOVA77
@VICTORIAPAVLOVA77 Жыл бұрын
@@lilgrlQ1He’s an FAA guy that’s why!! We’re Aviation industry and enthusiasts
@MsWobbly1
@MsWobbly1 Жыл бұрын
She died a hero raising money for the war effort. It’s said Gable was never the same thereafter. He enlisted in the Army Air Force and those who served with him said he acted like a man who wanted to die, seeking dangerous missions to which he wasn’t supposed to participate in.
@CastleMc
@CastleMc Жыл бұрын
@@VICTORIAPAVLOVA77 that does not justify keeping expensive personal possessions
@15Med3
@15Med3 Жыл бұрын
never stop making these videos. its absolutely amazing and love how you take us on location so its more relatable and real
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 and I’m glad you like them! Thank you for your support!!!
@David-xh2yt
@David-xh2yt Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It’s been a while since the last incredible journey you took us on in Death Valley and I was worried that it had come to an end. So happy. Thank you Forrest.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
I will journey as long as I’m physically able to.
@spiritmatter1553
@spiritmatter1553 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he found all that wreckage….unbelievable. I hope someone can enlighten us as to what some of those parts were.
@jonathanbaird8109
@jonathanbaird8109 Жыл бұрын
Offtopic but I have to say, as someone who used to be in EMS and a Sox fan, that profile picture fucking rules.
@ladyrachel13
@ladyrachel13 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that there is still debris there from 80 years ago. I read in another star's autobiography that Clark Gable never got over her death. He remarried later on but he never fully got over it. He loved her so much.
@patrickmccleary1144
@patrickmccleary1144 Жыл бұрын
They cleaned up the majority of the debris And even use metal detectors which were very very cumbersome at the time, but a lot of it was impacted deep into the ground like a bullet. And erosion has washed away a lot of it if you recall we were in the middle of an aluminum shortage at the time and as callous as it seems.The aluminum a lot of it was recycled. And because of gremlins/superstition it was done pretty hush-hush back then.I applied the person making this video as he is showing respect to the area by not taking any souvenirs. And if you are a superstitious person you would know that is also uncool and even if you're not superstitious well you might as well be on the safe side 🙂Furthermore I'm quite familiar with the area and personally I think they Might have accidentally been shot down. I had spoken to a number of old timers that were quite familiar with China Lake and the surrounding areas, Prior to China Lake having installed radar relay points it was known for flyers to take shortcuts and save quite a bit on fuel and pass within China Lakes borders. And apparently when they first installed these repeaters/radar relay points it had blanketed a lot of the Las Vegas area and cost quite a bit of panic. It took weeks before they were able to calibrate the radar blanket and get it functioning properly from what I understand. But that was pre-Manhattan project and I know a number of planes succumbed/disappeared flying over the restricted area before word got out. Of course this is purely conjecture on my part but I feel it's a possibility, Plus there was money to be made when it came to fuel and taking shortcuts.
@ladyrachel13
@ladyrachel13 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmccleary1144 that's interesting. Thank you for your comment. There were a lot of things happening not only all over the United States but the world during WWII.
@gtr5860
@gtr5860 Жыл бұрын
this guy found her wedding ring and other jewelry .. idk if this legit or not 😕 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5uXiIKGeMalgNU
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 7 ай бұрын
What a joke.. he cheated on her constantly.
@ladyrachel13
@ladyrachel13 7 ай бұрын
@@guaporeturns9472 I have read that he cheated on his first wife but not Carole Lombard. He cheated on the first wife with Loretta Young back in the early 1930's that resulted in the conception and birth of their daughter Judy Lewis.
@andytoskovic
@andytoskovic Жыл бұрын
Good to hear from you again Mr. Haggerty, I’d lie if I say I didn’t miss your analyses and little historic breakdowns
@thevincentgonzalesplan
@thevincentgonzalesplan Жыл бұрын
I think it's a testament to how beloved Carole Lombard is that the people who dare to make this VERY treacherous trek to her final resting place don't steal remnants or pieces of the wreckage out of respect. Such a sad part of history, and a tragic loss of a uniquely high-spirited human being.
@traumajock
@traumajock Жыл бұрын
Not meaning to be disrespectful, but TWA should have paid to have all that debris policed up. It's not a grave like sunken ships sometimes are.
@kitrichardson2165
@kitrichardson2165 Жыл бұрын
I think the remnants of the airplane or light gray markers, and do indicate a level of respect for her and I’m very happy that people haven’t taken it, although I don’t have too much optimism for the future
@r5t6y7u8
@r5t6y7u8 Жыл бұрын
Knowing human nature, I'll bet several people *did* pilfer from the crash site. Most people just didn't feel like researching the exact spot and then making the climb up that hill in the middle of nowhere.
@thelastjohnwayne
@thelastjohnwayne Жыл бұрын
Most of the plane is missing
@nativevirginian8344
@nativevirginian8344 Жыл бұрын
Just watched a video of a man who was FAA who went around the wreck site and had picked up jewelry and other things. I thought that was mercenary & disgusting.
@houserules3302
@houserules3302 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that people who visit the site are respectful and leave the debris where it is versus taking things as macabre souvenirs.
@sookie4195
@sookie4195 5 ай бұрын
My daughter and I used to hike in the southwest near Anasazi ruins. Sometimes we would see pieces of their pottery that could be a thousand years old. We never took it, but some people did.
@westaussie965
@westaussie965 3 ай бұрын
Nothing macabre about taking little bits of wreckage, it’s not like it’s human body parts
@SurfCityBill
@SurfCityBill Жыл бұрын
Wow. It blows me away that 80 years later all those parts are still out there.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 Жыл бұрын
It's a very difficult site to access as it's only for experienced hikers.
@gillespriod5509
@gillespriod5509 Жыл бұрын
80 years Is nothing for those metal parts, especially for a landing gear an the engine block, nobody would bother to take them for scrap in such a remote place
@laurelmalinowski1676
@laurelmalinowski1676 Жыл бұрын
SAME!
@someotherdude
@someotherdude Жыл бұрын
The same is true of any plane crash involving significant destruction and any that are beyond yards and easy transport. All the crashes I've seen, thousands of little bits are scattered around. Aircraft aluminum is 'corrosion proof', which means it corrodes very slowly.
@Johndoe345-k2d
@Johndoe345-k2d Жыл бұрын
I would have taken some of that home with me.
@Foxless316
@Foxless316 Жыл бұрын
I've never clicked a notification so fast in my life. Cheers for all your hard work, Forrest!
@zx9green791
@zx9green791 Жыл бұрын
I know, I love his videos!
@pecanpize8199
@pecanpize8199 Жыл бұрын
Great job as always, Forrest! I’m 67 years old and have lived in Indiana many years of my life. I was totally unaware of Carol and her story. Thanks again, my friend! It’s great to get another new video from you!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! It really appreciate it. I’m happy to know something I did helped educate someone else!!!
@pecanpize8199
@pecanpize8199 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? You educate more people in one day than most people do in a lifetime. You are awesome at what you do with a cast of many who follow you here! Thanks again! We all love your work!
@valkasolidor6727
@valkasolidor6727 Жыл бұрын
@pecanpize8199 Hey Hoosier! At 66 I've lived most of my years away from Indiana, but my father's roots were there and I went through grade school a bit south of Indianapolis. Still dear to me. Dad died way too young, but his childhood friend Ed Whitcomb (whom I bet you recall) passed only seven years ago. Small world sometimes.
@pecanpize8199
@pecanpize8199 Жыл бұрын
@@valkasolidor6727 Hey! Thanks for reaching out here on the Forrest Hagarty Channel! Yeah…I have moved a few times to Illinois and Ohio, but there’s nothing like Indiana to me. Yes, I remember Governor Whitcomb. He was a good one! They don’t make ‘em like him anymore. Keep watching this channel and supporting Forrest!
@valkasolidor6727
@valkasolidor6727 Жыл бұрын
@@pecanpize8199 Speaking of Whitcomb it wouldn't surprise me if Forrest knows about his "Escape From Corregidor" 😄 And for what it's worth I was born in Ohio. See you around sir!
@andyny29
@andyny29 Жыл бұрын
When Clark Gable joined the Army Air Corps, it was suspected by higher ups in the Corps, that he was trying to commit suicide after Carole’s death. He volunteered to be a gunner in a bomber on dangerous missions, so this may have been right. I prefer to think that he was brave and patriotic. He was never the same after his wife’s death. Carole Lombard was one of the funniest and most beautiful women in the world. R.I.P. to both of them. 😢
@Europa1749
@Europa1749 Жыл бұрын
He cheated on her regularly with several women, Lana Turner and Mamie Van Doren for example. Carole knew but let it go.
@catherinelw9365
@catherinelw9365 Жыл бұрын
He was permitted to be a photographer on these missions; they didn't want him in combat as he was too old.
@hawnyfox3411
@hawnyfox3411 Жыл бұрын
Having read your (excellent) post, this is in NO WAY meant as any disrespect towards Clark (Gable), but he only flew a couple of missions which were VERY shallow penetration (barely crossing the 'enemy held coast', if at all). His "risk" WAS exceedingly low, unlike his equally famous Hollywood compatriot James Stewart who flew multiple missions which WERE "VERY" deep penetration raids (Examples = "HAMM" & "BRUNSWICK") - Targets where Gable would NEVER venture, nor, be "allowed" - Saddens me, as whilst I stumbled on THIS excellent video purely by chance, I did however watch a video which actually documented "dates, days, missions, breifings & targets" that involved the FEW ventures that Clark Gable made, or, was allowed to make - Alas, my six-decade old memory is increasingly like a sieve (!), but I am far more well-versed in the 8th A.F than most on here, an interest that started back in 1968 when I built my 1st ever Boeing B.17 (447th B.G) - IIRC without checking & shooting from the hip, Clark was assigned to one of our bases further inland (Polebrook or Molesworth from memory) & of course, back then, during his "8th Air Force" dalliance, those units (like the 303rd) were still using the much earlier block-number series Boeing B.17-'F's with a much shorter range - Later the 'F's were fitted with so-called "Tokyo Tanks" (here in the E.T.O) which enabled them to go much deeper into Germany, which hitherto, they'd been unable. That's another "Logistical" reason as to "why" Clark Gable might spend no more than 15-mins over a Coastal Flak zone, unlike (the more unfortunate) James Stewart, who flew B.24's during 1944, when things were FAR, FAR hotter than the spell that Gable flew in, aprrox' one full year earlier.... (The ONLY daytime Luftwaffe fighter unit based in Northern France at that time, was JG.26) James Stewart got BY FAR the much, much rougher end of the deal - Luckily fate dictated it "unscathed" reviews.ipmsusa.org/sites/default/files/reviews/more-stars-sky/directions_frt.jpg (although he DID have to crashland the 445th's "Nine Yanks & a Jerk", seen ABOVE, at top of decal sheet)
@johnsakelaris7
@johnsakelaris7 Жыл бұрын
@@catherinelw9365 Anyone going up in a World War II plane was in great danger, whether a gunner or a photographer, whether in a combat area or even in training.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 7 ай бұрын
He cheated on her constantly… he was a pos
@DSRQ1
@DSRQ1 Жыл бұрын
My mother was a TWA Hostess - the title used for flight attendants back then - when this crash happened. She lived in Topanga Cayon near the beach and flew out of Burbank. Flying was very expensive and flights usually had movie stars and business VIPs aboard. A requirement to be a Hostess, in addition to looks, height, and weight, was an R.N. degree. She once was grounded for a bit after getting a tan at the beach - someone had complained that she was "too dark." She had lots of interesting stories.
@monkeywkeys3916
@monkeywkeys3916 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like TWA considered a Hostess to be a important representation of the company and service to the passengers. Maybe she looked too good with a tan for one of the female passengers : ] One of my Favorite old school standards was from NWA, the CEO removed the Doors on the bathroom stalls to keep employees from wasting time on the clock!
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 Жыл бұрын
TWA was known for wanting its hostess to be Nordic white. They didn’t want to be known as a company that “passes.”
@jerrymarbury9365
@jerrymarbury9365 Жыл бұрын
Naturally,typical of Hollywood hypocrites
@DSRQ1
@DSRQ1 Жыл бұрын
@@jerrymarbury9365 Hollwood doesnt enter in to it. She wasnt told who complained, it could have been anyone from CA, Kansas City, StLouis, New York, anywhere. Keep your politics to yourself, no one cares what you think.
@wesambriole7932
@wesambriole7932 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful life your mother had! Please share additional stories you might have, the reason why I’m interested I am from Fort Wayne Indiana, which was the hometown of Carole Lombard. Her family’s house is still well-kept there and Fort Wayne takes a lot of pride in knowing that Carol Lombard was a home town girl. Also, if you’re interested and Carol Lombard history, I could share a few stories with you let me know.
@DocOfRock-p4j
@DocOfRock-p4j Жыл бұрын
i'm an old guy - just turned 70. carole left this world 11 years before i was born. but i'm a huge classic movie buff and love her old flicks - my favorite being 'my man godfrey ' with willliam powell. seen it at least 20 times and still tear up every time i see her in it. brilliant comedienne - she just had no luck that day. heartbreaking.
@gardensofthegods
@gardensofthegods Жыл бұрын
But she was asked to give up her seat to military personnel and wouldn't . I know she was in a hurry to get home to her husband but wow , talk about twist of fate . Very tragic .
@paulconsalvo7574
@paulconsalvo7574 Жыл бұрын
​@@gardensofthegodsyeah lucky people who had to give up their seats.....
@janeenn8811
@janeenn8811 6 ай бұрын
My Man Godrey is stellar🎉🎉🎉one my favs too. Never tire of her performance… ‘Dont worry… it will all be over in a minute…’ right before marriage to Wm Powell 😂😂❤
@janeenn8811
@janeenn8811 6 ай бұрын
@@gardensofthegods this probably made it even harder for Clark because she was coming home to write the wrong, they had disagreed on before trip
@DocOfRock-p4j
@DocOfRock-p4j 6 ай бұрын
@@janeenn8811 yeah - last scene in his bar THE DUMP !! a screwball comedy like that would go nowhere these days. it's all stupid fantasy movies and endless superheroes. batman # 234. star trek # 3001. these hollywood writers should not even get paid for the neverending remakes they do. it's swill imo
@jaysmith179
@jaysmith179 Жыл бұрын
We miss you Forrest! You are the best. Thanks so much for putting these stories out for us and taking the time to make these. God Bless.
@durtbikefool
@durtbikefool Жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel on KZbin. Thanks again, Forrest!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your support!!!!
@BillGreenAZ
@BillGreenAZ Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@mango8918
@mango8918 Жыл бұрын
Forrest...Your videos never cease to educate and entertain. You provide a perspective unlike any other. It is so good to have you back and I look forward to watching wherever you take us next.
@lidiaoatman8104
@lidiaoatman8104 Жыл бұрын
And I love how Mr. Forrest totally respects the items left behind from the crash.
@jwwj30
@jwwj30 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back Forrest, I’ve missed your videos so much. Thank you for this educational & entertaining video plus the footage of the actual crash site. RIP to Ms. Lombard, her mother & the 20 other souls on board.
@denisecaringer4726
@denisecaringer4726 Жыл бұрын
This popped up on KZbin. Very interesting. Nice job. I'm amazed that all the at least larger bits of wreckage weren't cleaned up at the time and that they are still there. I've read about this tragic crash a number of times, but seeing all this brings it to life. Thank you.
@mschiffel1
@mschiffel1 Жыл бұрын
Such a tragic story. May they all rest in eternal peace.
@aces.9738
@aces.9738 5 ай бұрын
*RIP*
@stevesutherland6232
@stevesutherland6232 Жыл бұрын
Much respect for the hike you made up there not to mention the great content….a coin flip, and fear of flying would once again come up years later in a frigid cornfield in Iowa. Thank you for your hard work!!
@stevengoracke7644
@stevengoracke7644 5 ай бұрын
Buddy Holly? My FIL met him and his band. Nice guy,it sounds like.
@stevesutherland6232
@stevesutherland6232 5 ай бұрын
@@stevengoracke7644….yes and wow that’s so interesting, would have loved to hear about that experience 🎸🪙❄️🌽
@huntrrams
@huntrrams Жыл бұрын
Missed your historical site video! Very happy you’re back. RIP Carol, truly a amazing actress.
@AllergicFungus
@AllergicFungus Жыл бұрын
Nice upload. I enjoy how you go to the sites and show first hand what it looks like currently.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy that aspect. Thank you for your support!!
@m20j_pilot48
@m20j_pilot48 Жыл бұрын
When I first moved to Las Vegas back in 1996, a guy I worked with at that time told me about this wreck. It took two trips to find it, but well worth the effort. While picking through bits and pieces of the debris field that has slid downhill over the years, I found a mangled fork with the TWA logo on it that I still have today.
@gladtidings6020
@gladtidings6020 16 күн бұрын
Probably should have left that there out of respect maybe? You can always return it.
@jg4798
@jg4798 Жыл бұрын
Such a great channel, Forrest. Love your videos and how respectful you are. Live in Vegas and that area definitely takes a bit of patience and hiking to get to. Thank you for putting so much into your videos, always a treat to get a notification!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And thank you for your support!!!
@59Rosco
@59Rosco Жыл бұрын
Absoultely stunning...detail, humanity, explanation of tragedy. Heretofore, my only familiarity was from reading about the Carole Lombard crash on Wikipedia. This provides incrdibles insights, and the reasons for. The exterior and interior shots of the Forrest Hills masoleum where Carole rests, were a fitting tribute. Exceptionally well done. Todd Holman, Mesa, AZ
@patrickverona387
@patrickverona387 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this sir. It’s amazing that after 80 years there is still wreckage of the plane where it crashed. I am pretty surprised that scavenger hunters haven’t taken it as souvenirs.
@pfcwar5150
@pfcwar5150 Жыл бұрын
Most of the people who know who Carole Lombard was are too old to hike up there
@MsRosiecat
@MsRosiecat Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel & it's fascinating. I've learned alot from your explanation of the crash. I love the way that you were respectful about the pilot's mistake. You didn't berate them or make any negative comments. You explained the most likely reason for the crash. I'll be watching your videos from now on, including previous ones. RIP everyone on board.
@joyceanthony-huff2914
@joyceanthony-huff2914 Жыл бұрын
A lot is TWO words
@vNill
@vNill Жыл бұрын
Man she was a beautiful woman, rest in peace all the passengers
@a_badali
@a_badali Жыл бұрын
I was thinking to myself, just yesterday, Forrest hasn't uploaded in a minute. The universe listens
@88ST3V307
@88ST3V307 Жыл бұрын
Man I forgot this channel even existed! Nice to see you're back, Forrest!
@ghhhp
@ghhhp Жыл бұрын
seeeeriously lol idk why i love this sort of thing but the way he uses google earth and shit and sometimes even visits the sites personally underrated channel but im glad there’s like minded people out there that love this kinda weird shit as much as i do it’s a pretty niche category here on youtube the way forrest does it but i feel like he’s the best at it 🤷‍♂️ lol
@88ST3V307
@88ST3V307 Жыл бұрын
@ghhhp Right! It's good to see others who have an interest in this stuff... like I would type into Google maps/earth locations of murders/crimes/famous birthplaces, deaths,, etc... just purely out of interest
@mattychristian
@mattychristian Жыл бұрын
Honestly, same here
@deadburiedrisen
@deadburiedrisen Жыл бұрын
“the universe”
@krysssb
@krysssb Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel last week, I love your content!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kindness! I truly appreciate it and I’m grateful you enjoy my content!!!
@jazzi_0453
@jazzi_0453 Жыл бұрын
Just watched some of your old videos when this one popped up. Nice
@gregoryreichart8620
@gregoryreichart8620 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@rayross997
@rayross997 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Forrest, you put much research and effort into these excellent videos. 👍
@twarken5078
@twarken5078 Жыл бұрын
Found this channel just a few weeks ago and have binge watched every video since. Excellent content, one of my favorite channels for sure, can’t wait to see more videos!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@TBONEMCT
@TBONEMCT 3 ай бұрын
Had no idea the details of this tragedy. Thanks for making this.
@squeakystool
@squeakystool Жыл бұрын
Nice that you respected the site and did not take anything away.
@jaysmith8329
@jaysmith8329 5 ай бұрын
It should be cleaned up, it's not natural. We have many in our country that don't want oil drilling or mining but have know problem with aircraft debris in our forests
@canyonair
@canyonair 5 ай бұрын
@@squeakystool Actually he did. Caught on camera.
@tomr9661
@tomr9661 8 ай бұрын
Another excellent video. Covering all aspects with great boots on the ground investigative reporting and a clear concise narration. Big thanks.
@kennethkendrick4795
@kennethkendrick4795 Жыл бұрын
Astounding. I always assumed that someone was responsible for securing and hauling away plane crash debris in most cases. Very informative production. Thanks for your hard work.
@Luci_S
@Luci_S Жыл бұрын
Lots of great history and case details as usual! Been waiting for your videos since last year! Worth it!
@larryyonce
@larryyonce Жыл бұрын
Sad story...she was doing good deeds. I've always wondered exactly where this happened. Thank you for sharing and explaining about the headings...a deadly error. God bless and stay safe.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome and thank you for your kind words and support! I really appreciate it!!!
@UPalooza
@UPalooza Жыл бұрын
Me too. Poor Carole. She was really funny. Thanks Forrest for quite a bit of detail.
@gregoryretzlaff7884
@gregoryretzlaff7884 Жыл бұрын
If god had wanted her safe, he would not have allowed the plane to crash. . . . .
@UPalooza
@UPalooza Жыл бұрын
@@gregoryretzlaff7884 Total lunacy. Insatiable, blood-thirsty god.
@Merrymaid
@Merrymaid 5 ай бұрын
​@@forresthaggertychannel4301Were the names of those bumped from the Carole Lombard flight ever published?
@stephencopeland238
@stephencopeland238 11 ай бұрын
This accident has always fascinated me and I've read and researched about it extensively so personally I thank you so very much for taking the time and effort to produce and share this with us all. I'm very much grateful
@n.y.gemini4432
@n.y.gemini4432 Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re back!
@coreyzeh7232
@coreyzeh7232 Жыл бұрын
Found this channel about 6 months ago and was becoming increasingly worried that I had found it too late. So happy to see you still uploading forrest, I really enjoy these videos and appreciate the work you put into them.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
I just retired so there is more to come. I will make these videos as long as I’m physically able to. Thank you for your support!
@greco37
@greco37 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was just outstanding. I truly appreciate all the hard work it took putting this all together
@Peter-gv2gn
@Peter-gv2gn Жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant video Forrest, I know of Carol lombard being married to Clark gable and her bond drives in WW2( I am deeply interested in the American perspective of WW2 so I did come across lots of newsreels of Hollywood and its bond drive) , I am British and I enjoyed this very much , the detail was superb, thank you.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support and comment!!!
@Merrymaid
@Merrymaid 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but its Carole
@jimhontz7313
@jimhontz7313 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. What a tragedy. Carole Lombard was a national treasure. I love her films. Can't imagine what Clark Gable went through following this accident.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 2 ай бұрын
"National treasure" is objectively untrue - just another famous person dead due to their affluent lifestyle, not special or any more tragic than an unknown homeless person passing that nobody knew.
@benicio1967
@benicio1967 Ай бұрын
I can’t compliment you enough on this video. You were so thorough in covering this. I don’t know how you got up into that mountain area. I’m so impressed by the effort you went to to cover this. It’s truly incredible to me that they were able to bury anyone. The plane was so fragmented it’s hard to imagine how they were able to find any remains. I look at the pieces you picked up and wonder what on earth happened to the rest of that plane. He had to be shattered over losing her that way. My father was killed in a plane crash and my mother never recovered from the grief. Clark must have been heart broken the rest of his days to lose her in such a horrific and unexpected way I can’t thank you enough for covering this. You did an excellent job.
@pmafterdark
@pmafterdark Жыл бұрын
Poor Carole, such a tragic ending for her and everyone else onboard. That was a brief but very well done narrative of the crash. Amazing that parts of the plane are still there after over 80 years.
@good1day726
@good1day726 6 ай бұрын
Especially since her mother and Otto didn’t want to be there in that mode of travel and were on edge.
@FacesoftheForgotten
@FacesoftheForgotten Жыл бұрын
Great presentation, thanks for making the effort to get all the way up there to take us along to see the crash site. I know that’s a big effort.
@TeamCGS2005
@TeamCGS2005 Жыл бұрын
Love Carole Lombard. She was a real talent during the Golden Age of Hollywood.
@1977seabiscuit
@1977seabiscuit Жыл бұрын
My favorite channel. I always look forward to your well researched videos. Thanks again!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@JCStorm76
@JCStorm76 Жыл бұрын
My favourite channel. Wish you’d post more often.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Now that I’m retired that’s the plan.
@ericmartin9569
@ericmartin9569 5 ай бұрын
Wow, incredible 😮 thank you for such great informative video. Awesome work! New subscriber here 👍🏼
@TenSeven97
@TenSeven97 Жыл бұрын
Yet another interesting video. Thank you for making them!
@waltonwarrior7428
@waltonwarrior7428 5 ай бұрын
Forrest you do by far and away the best investigative reporting podcast. I love your use of Google Earth. I wish I could use it that well when I’m investigating things but I don’t seem to understand it like you do. BTW, your four part investigation of the zodiac killer was outstanding. Thanks for posting this report.
@nickbeef4824
@nickbeef4824 Жыл бұрын
Dude you put in some serious work. Very well done.
@romandecaesar4782
@romandecaesar4782 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for creating the video as well as performing the location research. This event was and continues to be one of the most tragic our nation experienced during the 20th century.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Жыл бұрын
Most tragic, really? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
@famousgraveswithdiamonddave
@famousgraveswithdiamonddave Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed you made it up there. No small feat! Well done - as usual.
@michaelmccollister7482
@michaelmccollister7482 Жыл бұрын
Been following your videos for years and they keep getting better and better, this one especially!
@mynameisvna
@mynameisvna Жыл бұрын
Hello Forrest!! :)) Another great video. I have always been interested in this accident and seeing all the parts up on the mountain. It's great to see your perspective on this. I have always been a Clark Gable fan and it's been a long time since I've been to Forest Lawn. My dad is buried there too.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Hello Vianey! Thank for watching the video. I’m sorry about your dad:( Is he at the Glendale cemetery?
@mynameisvna
@mynameisvna Жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Thank you. It's been a long time but yes he is at Forest Lawn Glendale.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
I wish I would have known that. I would have taken video of it and included in the video.
@mynameisvna
@mynameisvna Жыл бұрын
That would have been great to see! Next time you are at the cemetery, let me know and I will give you the location.
@brmh1667
@brmh1667 5 ай бұрын
A great piece of informative, historical commentary and video. Just as important to me is the respect you show for the site and the wreckage still there. Thank you for this film.
@Lilaa86
@Lilaa86 Жыл бұрын
Wow.. 80 years.. it’s respectful that lots of parts remain in this spot. She’s buried at the cemetery near Clark, but this was and is her final real resting place. Very interesting video 👏🏼 I think it’s so difficult to arrive there! ⛰🏜🧗🏻‍♂️
@JB-mb6lm
@JB-mb6lm Жыл бұрын
We appreciate these videos you make. Way better than network documentaries!
@althunder4269
@althunder4269 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent analysis. Thank you as always.
@deborahschmalz2657
@deborahschmalz2657 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see you again Mr. Haggerty! It has been a long time. I always look forward to your video tours, they are always so interesting!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support 🙏
@jeffprice5810
@jeffprice5810 Жыл бұрын
One of the few channels on KZbin you can hit the like button before even seeing the video. We have missed you my friend.
@anthonywarthold
@anthonywarthold Жыл бұрын
Great video Forrest and glad to see you back on KZbin 👍🏻
@brycecrousore1985
@brycecrousore1985 Жыл бұрын
YES!! The long wait is over, and when a new Forrest video/lesson arrives, you know America is back on track! Thank you for sharing, Forrest.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
You’re funny!!!
@QueenOfTheNorth65
@QueenOfTheNorth65 Жыл бұрын
My favorite actress. Thanks for making this video. I’ve read so much about the crash over the years, but your video really brings it into perspective.
@chetreid77
@chetreid77 Жыл бұрын
This is a FANTASTIC channel!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 I’m happy you enjoy it!!!
@lidiaoatman8104
@lidiaoatman8104 Жыл бұрын
Gosh I love your video! Glad to see a new one popped on my list. Great job as always and that hike!!!!
@franaydelott2734
@franaydelott2734 Жыл бұрын
She was almost home. How heartbreaking.
@HoosierCRO
@HoosierCRO Жыл бұрын
You always add insightful knowledge about your subjects. I still wish you would cover the Charles Whitman ordeal in Austin, for I know you cover every aspect and if I'm not mistaken all the landmarks still stand today. I appreciate all your videos.
@mikeshahan1960
@mikeshahan1960 Жыл бұрын
Rather than someone putting those parts in the tree later, could it be that the aircraft parts in that tree at roughly 7:20 are the result of that tree growing thru those parts for the last 80 years? Well done. Thank you for this video.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Very possible!
@rapha3845
@rapha3845 Жыл бұрын
Was just wondering if you were going to upload anytime soon and i get blessed with a new video. Thank you!
@Useaname
@Useaname Жыл бұрын
What an excellent video. Thank you. Subbed.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support and subscribing!!!
@5vxz
@5vxz Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Forrest. I’ve missed your content
@zyrrhos
@zyrrhos Жыл бұрын
How does Forrest not have more subscribers? He's a treasure.
@campfire52
@campfire52 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the effort that you put into these interesting, informative, and high quality videos Forrest. They are as good as any other documentaries that one will ever find anywhere. Take care and I will definitely see you on the next one.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
@campfire52
@campfire52 Жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 You're very welcome sir!
@optimus163
@optimus163 Жыл бұрын
Upon hearing about the crash Clark Gable went to Goodsprings NV a few miles to the southwest of the city. For the modern day visitor there is an exit for Goodsprings at Jean and I-15. Whereas Clark and co. would have eventually travel on an old two lane road called S. Las Vegas blvd , part of the original route from California to Jean and on to Las Vegas . Years ago I visited the Pioneer Inn in Goodsprings not knowing about the crash until I sat in the quieter dining area away from the bar room. There in a corner where I sat, are photos of Clark and Carol plastered all over the walls along with original newspaper articles about the crash. I became really drawn into this tragedy as I ate lunch and read all the accounts. When i went back to my place in Vegas I researched more about what had happened and the recovery attempts on the mountain. How MGM talent rep and 'fixer' Eddie Mannix drove Gable from L.A. to Goodsprings and then Eddie went up the mountain to hopefully find and identify Lombard. In winter it does snow up there quite abit and that hampered the recovery teams. Meanwhile Gable waited in the Pioneer Saloon Bar which had become a defacto base for crews going up the mountain. Clark wanted to go up with the crew but Eddie Mannix persuaded him to stay put as conditions were not great and he was a mental wreck. Reading all the accounts of that time I knew I had to go back one more time to the Pioneer Inn. A week later I did because I needed to see something for myself. A remnant of the past that you can touch and connect with that once great film star who sat in grief for 3 days at this very bar . Gable drank himself into a stupor and didnt sleep until they brought the bodies of Carol, her Mom and Otto down the mountain. As he waited he smoked countless cigarettes, putting them out right in the bar top. Those deep black burn indentations are still in the wood bar today. I've seen them myself . You can really feel the heavyness of it all as you sit in the very same spot as Gable did .....waiting and waiting and waiting. Amongst all his affairs and flings Clark truly loved Carol. They were like Fire and Ice yet one of Hollywoods golden couples and he said after her burial “You know, I have everything in the world anyone could want but one thing. All I really need and want is Ma.” .....Ma was Carol's nickname Gable used for her.
@Mdeaccosta
@Mdeaccosta 5 ай бұрын
Lovely essay. I'm a year out, but thanks.
@E.Humperdinck
@E.Humperdinck Жыл бұрын
Mr. Haggerty. I hope you and your students are doing well. I hope you're enjoying summer. Glad to see you posting again.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m officially retired! More videos to come.
@TrueCrimewithdiamonddave
@TrueCrimewithdiamonddave Жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed you made it up there. Well done - as usual.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
It was a tough hike, but we’ll worth it.
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for leaving it all in place.
@EdSmith-wb6lx
@EdSmith-wb6lx Жыл бұрын
Mount PO- DESS -E is the correct pronunciation. Clark Gable stayed in the tiny town of Good springs while the bodies where recovered. Good Springs is on your map, i live in Sandy Valley also on you map about 8 miles from the wreck site. But you have presented a good account of her last journey. Ed 40 S of Vegas
@franciscosandiego3026
@franciscosandiego3026 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos brother from the imperial county California 👍👍🇺🇲🇺🇲
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are very kind!!
@BethCampbell-b9c
@BethCampbell-b9c Жыл бұрын
Great commentary. I’m really impressed that what you found you showed us, and put it back. Such respect! Thank you!
@fw0756
@fw0756 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video , much respect for Carol and Clarke .🇦🇺
@Merrymaid
@Merrymaid 5 ай бұрын
Carole
@davidgoodman6924
@davidgoodman6924 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job Forrest! Thank you for another great video! 👍
@alanwhit8770
@alanwhit8770 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating and so respectful. Well done!
@mariec.albuquerque6446
@mariec.albuquerque6446 Жыл бұрын
She was a newlywed at the time. Carole and Clark were practically on and off their honeymoon, they married in 1939 and two years later she died at just 33 years old. She saw her dream of being a mother broken because she was unsuccessfully trying to have children due to some problem that the doctors were not sure what it was. It was widely speculated that she was possibly pregnant when this happened and no one knew yet. Clark was devastated after the news of her death.
@f.w.2054
@f.w.2054 Жыл бұрын
Shocked that the wreckage hasn't been taken after all these years!
@MrVegasdeuce
@MrVegasdeuce Жыл бұрын
Hell of a hike man. Mt. Potosi is a tricky one... great video!
@DevilDaRebel
@DevilDaRebel Жыл бұрын
The Legend returns.
@GodWearsGucci
@GodWearsGucci Жыл бұрын
Mr. Haggerty it is so wonderful to see you upload. I lost my “Squirrel” 🐿 account a few months back. I just needed to say hello to you as a follower for the past 2+ years (maybe longer.) Your videos offer a whole NEW education on these historical events. I’m sure it is very hard NOT to be a relic hunter. You are one of the most respectful people I follow. Carry on Mr. Haggerty, Carry on…..
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! There are more videos to come now that I’m retired!
@GodWearsGucci
@GodWearsGucci Жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 oh my goodness that’s amazing! Congratulations to you! The only negative is that the kids in school won’t have the BEST teacher ever …..but I know you will convey your positivity and knowledge here. Thanks again for your time Mr. Haggerty. It’s always a pleasure to hear from you!
@JoeThunderFox
@JoeThunderFox Жыл бұрын
He’s back!!
@marklevine-es2br
@marklevine-es2br Жыл бұрын
This was a very good analysis of the crash site . Very well done I give you a lot of credit!!!!
@stevenkaskus6173
@stevenkaskus6173 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking us to this site, I've heard alot about this fateful flight and even that the movie Clark Gable did in the early 1960's the Misfits was filmed fairly close to this mountain and Clark Gable was always looking up towards the mountain during filming. The vector settings explanation now answer's My question as to why this happened Which is so sad since it was totally avoidable if the pilot's just used common sense regarding their new heading that was different than their usual heading and the simple adjustments could have been made saving everyone's life.
@lemorab1
@lemorab1 Жыл бұрын
I have never fathomed why experienced pilots wouldn't change the settings as a matter of course!? What an oversight!
@Robbie-sk6vc
@Robbie-sk6vc 5 ай бұрын
​@@lemorab1Because once your used to doing something the same way all the time, you sometimes don't think about other ways of getting it done! Or you just overlook the obvious. It's easier than you think! I've done it!
@robinjchambers845
@robinjchambers845 Жыл бұрын
Long time no hear…..glad your back
@ProbableCause-DanGryder
@ProbableCause-DanGryder Жыл бұрын
great job!
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan! I’m looking forward to the next visit up there with you. You will definitely make it there next time!
@stevet8121
@stevet8121 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. The NTSB report on this crash should be out soon.
@fussersiak8681
@fussersiak8681 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back. Love your content. Very respectful and informative.
@kilcar
@kilcar Жыл бұрын
Carole was a American Patriot. She lived her country. The crash site is hallowed ground.
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 Жыл бұрын
Seriously! ‘Hallowed ground’. Get a grip.
@cliffordbowman6777
@cliffordbowman6777 Жыл бұрын
I’m late but, thank you for your sacrifice.
@kennithlambert2563
@kennithlambert2563 Жыл бұрын
Right, I would leave everything as is at that crash site .
@rickkrough6167
@rickkrough6167 Жыл бұрын
Patriot? A real Patriot IMO would have given up her seat to those soldiers without a second thought or using her privilege.
@catherinelw9365
@catherinelw9365 Жыл бұрын
@@rickkrough6167 Uh, she was traveling to entertain troops at a USO. This was not privilege. Get your damn facts straight.
@bill2066
@bill2066 Жыл бұрын
Hey Forrest...also wanted to say that i appreciate your channel because you dont JUST do aviation stuff. You delve into other subjects as well, but i'd still consider you an aviation channel/authority, etc..Very few other aviation youtubers delve into other side topics, etc,., and I wish others would do the same. Credit to Dan Gryder and Dan at "TAking off" who embrace this as well. It shows versatility.
@NastyNathanial69
@NastyNathanial69 Жыл бұрын
One of the many things that I like about your videos is that you ad a nice element of class. Even though these stories are very interesting, they are also tragic at the same time. But you are extremely respectful in your telling of these stories which ads a lot of classiness to the video. I really respect that about you. I would really like to collaborate with you on that case that we talked about. I'll shoot you an email with some information about it. Forrest Haggerty your videos are absolutely fascinating. That is because YOU are a fascinating man.
@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel4301 Жыл бұрын
Yes, send me an email!
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