Caroline Myss - The Storyteller and the Gossip (The Power of Archetypes)

CORRECTION: In this video I mistakenly referred to Hedy Lamarr as a gossip columnist - when I meant to say Hedda Hopper.
Hi, Everybody -
It's time for another archetype. This week, I'm combining two that relate to each other. We're going to start with the storyteller and then go to the gossip, which is like the shadow side of the storyteller.
But I want to begin with a fantastic quote from Eleanor Roosevelt, who said, "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events and small minds discuss people." And that summarizes the difference between a great storyteller and a gossip and the width of the spectrum between them.
The great power of a storyteller is to take what you've gone through and use it as a launching pad into the theater of life itself. To understand the stories of others is the spiritual purpose of the storyteller.
For the gossip archetype, human information is social currency; It's their key to getting into social circles, being popular, and having something to say.
If you tend to gossip, break that pattern. The choice for all of us, no matter the archetype, is whether we are gracing something or withholding grace.
Okay, so the storyteller and the gossip, what a team.
Thank you, everybody.
Love,
Caroline
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[@caroltaylor8530]

Hedda Hopper was a gossip columnist in Hollywood. Hedy Lamar was a beautiful actress and also a genius inventor back in the hey day of Hollywood.

[@DancingQueenie]

I hope she CORRECTS that.

[@patriciaedlr]

Thank you. For a minute I thought Caroline might be thinking of someone else, which paradoxically makes a perfect reference of what gossip is.

[@DancingQueenie]

I work in an office 95% women. We agreed that anything we say about a coworker, we are willing to say to her. Everything we say about each other is 100% POSITIVE! Hey, Macy! Jess says your project is brilliant! ❤️❤️❤️ We’re all happy and supported.

[@BarefootShaman]

Thank you! I learnt to REALLY honour my life story as I practiced the 12 Steps by Alcoholics Anonymous. In particular, Steps Four and Five. The icing on the cake for me in life is to take other men through the steps and to hear their stories. "Our small stories become a vehicle for the larger stories, the greater truths about why we are here and what is our purpose." Peace be upon you.

[@cloverstack]

I think you meant "Hedda Hopper" who was the gossip columnist. Hedy Lamarr was probably more of a Femme Fatale and Engineer archetype, but I'd be curious to hear your take on that :)

[@drugtrip]

Speaking of stories - the one you told about wound-ology and the Native American soldier has stayed with me and and I remember it at least once a week. ❤

[@izaaguilo]

Every archetype has it's positive and negative attributes but...I believe that at the end, what matters is how we choose to use that energy in our lives and others. I simply love your storyteller archetype. Thank you and Blessings 🙌 ❤

[@HealerWarrior101]

Great comparison of storytelling versus gossip, Caroline. I am glad you did it, since nowadays, unfortunately, so much damage is being done to people through mindless, malicious gossip by small minds.

[@wickedvvvwitch]

I'd love to hear a deeper dive into the shadow of the storyteller--specifically on lying/pathological lying, never feeling safe/adequate/comfortable enough with ones reality to disclose it truthfully.

[@cyndeetaylor]

I was listening to music, thinking about this: we GIVE attention because we WANT attention - we WANT attention because we GIVE attention. Laughing at the obvious! Great writers love great readers. Great readers love great writers. Then this video popped on my feed. The Universe is blowing my mind these days.

[@RaptorGirlkathy]

Thank you, Caroline..I needed this, now!! I was a professional journalist for decades, & I think it fed into my need to feel "clued in", be listened to and feel important. I felt a great responsibility in transmitting correct and objective information, but I must admit, it made me cynical & judgmental. I was working in Manhattan on 9/11, and continued as a street reporter, for a few more years, then inside as an All-News anchor, during which, I developed the "media mind." Eeek You helped me in Energy Anatomy, Why People Don't Heal, and the list goes on and on..I love the way you weaved these two archetypes together. Stay well 🥰🤗💚

[@sandraspidle5972]

Wisdom and truth is what I hear from everyone of your lessons, Caroline. Thankful that you have been showing up these last few weeks, I've needed your wisdom, not that I don't have wisdom inside of me, but looking at my situation from your paradigm is fuller. I recently named my Spirit, "Pure Worth", because it deserves my respect, my love, and I want to be conscious of my words, actions and attitude. Gratitude takes on a whole new meaning. You've helped me for several years, along with a few others, who teach what I need to hear, not just what I want to hear. To be honest, truly honest with myself (Spirit) is not a cake walk, in fact I have to turn around a lot in order to be worthy of this life, gift I've been given. Again, thank you for making us responsible to tell a story honestly as we can, with love.❤️🙏😺🙏🌹🙏

[@sherigreenwell7905]

I like to do what I call "White Gossip" - I make a point of passing on positive remarks and observations that will lift others up. I refuse to take other people's negative and destructive gossip on board, especially because it is usually unsupported by actual facts. When I receive information - including eZines, articles, videos like this one, etc - I always pause to think about who else would find the information useful / helpful and pass it on.

[@cyndeetaylor]

I've been practicing the same thing for the past few years. If it's something that makes me feel good to talk about, I do. If not . . . As another teacher I follow said "Taste your words before you spit them out of your mouth."

[@bellagrace947]

You have so much wisdom to share. Thank you

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

I love you! Thank you for the archetype playlist! I'm not wanting to send you bread. I want to send you a hug and a humidifier 😂❤❤

[@andersstromberg6025]

A Great storyteller you are Caroline.👍Myself, I try to stay away from gossiping as much as possible.

[@PilgrimagewithJesus]

God, my therapist and Caroline get me…..and that’s good enough.

[@scopeymosley8265]

Thank you Ms Myss❤

[@penseal.]

First time tuning in to your channel. Wow. What an incredible description. I've been contemplating gossip for two weeks now and couldnt get my finger on why it bothered me so. Seeing it as the dark side of storytelling makes so much sense. Your lecture has lifted a veil. Thank you

[@margueritebaca3921]

You reminded me of my Dad's favorite quote: Small minds discuss people Mediocre minds discuss events Great minds discuss ideas He exemplified that for me! Thank you Dad. I treasure the realm of creative ideas.

[@cyndeetaylor]

You cannot imagine how many times that quote has popped into my memory over the past couple of years.

[@avivashefa4430]

I feel blessed to have discovered you,Caroline. Always brilliant and your grasp of people and the universe is stunning!! I begin my day listening to one of your lessons and am always in awe of how much you know. I must, however, remind you that the gossip columnist was Heddy Hopper, not Heddy Lamar . The latter was an Austrian Hungarian born American actress who actually invented many things.

[@susanciambrone5784]

Wow … needed to hear this right now … as always, Carolyn is such a blessing in my life. 🙏🏼

[@melwillis6475]

Thank you for your enlightening teachings 🥰 I send great love and appreciation 🙏🏻🙌🏻

[@amyhodges959]

Ooooh thank you for that wonderful story!!

[@dawnfreshour8425]

I just love watching your very helpful videos. I've benefitted from many of them. Thanks

[@Joy_Love_joy]

I really appreciate this. I will definitely listen again because I want to internalize all this great information.

[@shannongillespie1440]

Oh yes! Just in time for this. Thank you so very much for sharing

[@soniareyes4425]

Thanks! What a clear way to describe the gift of the storyteller!

[@A-Znation]

Thanks u actually answered my question about the narcissistic spectrum with ur final words on ur narcissistic archetype session … lol ur perspective is setting my Persephone free

[@sumtingwong8752]

Thank you Caroline, my eyes have been opened to the story teller… love this.

[@drishanadasilva463]

Thank you you have been an amazing blessing in my life❤

[@Terry-ye3gp]

Soul Food, Gathering Time!!! Thanks so much Caroline. Brilliantos!! Mwah.😊❤🎉

[@anitadai6143]

Thank you !

[@katie.the.cosmic.sailor]

I love all of your archetype videos and even have your archetype cards! I relate with the poet and was wondering if you could do a video on the poet! ❤

[@barbarajohnson1442]

When you mentioned the gossip columnist, I was reminded of a famous quote by the Count of Grandsailles: " Balls are given for those not invited" 😂 Thank you again for words and ideas to live by.

[@negcomas759]

I can not thank you enough, all love of the universe to you!! Best wishes

[@mannie2075]

So true 👌and thank you so much for remanding me!!😝 I feel it is so wrong into my guts 💪🏼❤️🙏✨👌

[@KimloveMuse]

I Love this series ♥️ I Love all your work. Thank you so much 🙏💫♥️As a Psychic Medium this helps me so much in my own work and life.

[@elisabethveltman5291]

I really enjoy and learn from these talks, thank you. Just an important note, Heddy Lamar was a famous actress and also an inventor. Her discoveries were used by the navy, and the precursors to the wifi and blutooth we use today. Hedda Hopper, I believe, was the gossip columnist.

[@elisabethveltman5291]

Also, your talks have helped sustain me and so many throughout difficult times with beautiful depth and interest. Thank you, again for being here.

[@antor2471]

Interesting story, reminds of “Detachment” where the Detachment is from the self-indulgent immediate help in priority to the efficiency of a solution creating a long-term base

[@sandraspidle5972]

Are you talking about, Hedda Hopper, maybe? I just read a documentary about Hedi Lamarr, I thought they said she was an Actress/Scientist. Just wanted you to know what I read, I could be wrong. Love you, always.❤️

[@marya6445]

I needed to hear this today. live in a Senior Retirement Community. We have more than our share of "Gossips". Both women and men have nothing kind to say about others. I try to isolate from them, but they come to my gate. I try to change the subject, but they are not interested in talking about things of interest. I love your term; social currency. It helps me understand why they do this and not to "feed the beast".

[@arzuozer5717]

The story is a story from the Holy Quran, the journey of Moses and the teacher of all prophets Hz. Hızır. Sure Kehf 18/71. Hz. Hızır is telling Moses, not to discuss his desicions he will made throughout the journey because he is not able to see the core and essence of the events, Moses prays to have enough compassion to understand the whole. Beautiful explanation and interpretation! Thank you for all your videos 🙏🩵

[@lisademers9581]

Fantastic information that helps me further understand the weapon of gossip. It’s interesting that many years ago, I dreamt of Jesus talking to me. It is the only dream, in my recollection in which a Jesus figure has appeared or spoken. The only clear message I remember was regarding gossip, or speaking about others when they were not present. The lesson was clear. Do not do it. It’s incredibly harmful to every party, mostly and including myself. There was a tremendous amount of gossip going on at my place of work at the time. I learned how to quickly and easily walk away and keep my mouth shut. Don’t give that crap any energy.

[@jasasyiken5561]

This is just my opinion. I do believe that whatever story that one is telling, is really a story to oneself. And how the story is articulated depends on the lens (perspective) of the story teller (or gossiper). It’s like building on fire metaphor Caroline shared before. Someone on the left and another one the right of the building, both tells a different story based on what they each see. The truth is that the building is on fire. Whether it’s a good thing, a dramatic scene, a bad thing…like the guru story, nobody knows why the building is on fire. Therefore the guy on the left or right are both just telling “their truths” not necessary “the truth” as the truth is unknown to the seer. When an event occur, by nature our mind goes into action for purpose of comprehension. One tells him/herself stories. Through this process, one gets to see his/her own lens ie perspective (whether +ve or -ve). Every story told is an opportunity to know oneself better. Like Charles Dickens’ story described in this video, is about his views which are influenced by his own experience. Readers only relates and we either like or do not like the stories told. I believe, when looking at the tabloids and gossips, it’s good to see our receptions to those stories. If we like all the malicious stories, we enjoy seeing others humiliated, criticized or punished in our relation to those kind of stories, it shows that we perhaps harvest some kind of anger or vengeance towards certain portfolio of people such as the rich or successful because we feel that there is injustice in our own lives. And the best story in this context is to see if we can change the stories within, to break the relation to those malicious or negative stories. If successful, we can become compassionate to the tabloid victims and gradually will no longer be addicted to negative and harming stories people sell us as their social currency. This is how the storyteller can use his/her gift to learn and grow. Those who look outside dreams. Those who look inside awakens. ✌️

[@maryshirren4865]

Thank you ❤

[@stratovation1474]

Brilliant!

[@sharandhillon1138]

I was gossiping today and this video drops 😳 sorry 🙏🏽 lesson learned 😅

[@cefrench7106]

Ain't nothing more painful as being the target of a malicious gossip. Embellished lies and slander.

[@maryoanna]

That was interesting, thank you! Would it be possible to focus a little more on the story teller whose stories don't only use people (like the gossip) but also contain symbols, signs and surprising ways for bringing collective patterns to the light? Could you please elaborate on that part as well, possibly through another archetype like the poet or the visionary? I'd be very much looking forward to such a video as well 🪄🤓😍 Thanks in advance for your consideration 😊

[@thestudentat101]

@0:59... “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” -Eleanor Roosevelt *️⃣That quote sums up a lot for me.

[@mysticat7652]

Hedda Hooper Hollywood gossip columnist. Heddy Lamar '40's movie star.

[@amyrosenold-music-healing-yoga]

If i recall correctly, Hedy Lamarr went down in history not only as a beautiful actess, but as a spy in WW2.

[@jg3094]

Hedda Hopper was the gossip, not Hedy Lamarr (a beautful and highly intelligent woman-read her bio!).

[@jessicakreimermanlew3825]

I think you meant Hedda Hopper, not Hedy Lamarr. Hedy Lamarr (/ˈhɛdi/; born Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler; November 9, 1914[a] - January 19, 2000) was an Austro-Hungarian-born American actress and inventor.[2] She was a film star during Hollywood's Golden Age.[3]

[@revk-squared9046]

It’s 18:60. Very interesting.

[@suecooper9011]

What the gossip can't see is their boomerang.

[@sheilahalvonik8977]

You are so beautiful. I am grateful for you.

[@anndelorge8451]

Learning about archetypes from you is right in there with Course in Miracles for me. I am curious if there is a Gardener archetype and if so, can you offer some resources of info about it? I can’t find anything about it. One author compared it to an architect and that’s all I could find. Thanks.

[@Lilrumbles]

Hedley Lamar- Mel Brooks

[@carrietetzlaff8941]

Thanks again:)

[@chitownRonnie]

Heddy Lemar was a starlet.... HEDDA HARPER, she was the gossip columnist., I love your content and I love your archetype deck ❤️❤️❤️

[@loribrack6251]

Hedda HOPPER was the gossip columnist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedda_Hopper

[@boplo1]

“That’s Hadley!” Harvey Korman as Hedley Lamar.

[@user-qo8gp9eq4p]

Question for the community and for Caroline. How interested would you be in the Archetypes on Kings & Queens?

[@MazeyDaze]

Do you mean gossip columnist Hedda Hopper rather than the actress Hedy Lamarr?

[@maureendrennan9328]

I was similar as a child(biographies, documentary and my community in my village and school.

[@amotherofcolour5989]

A good example of this archetype is Wendy Williams. The way she told a story just memorized her show, just hot topics alone. But also had so many negative side effects to those around her.

[@betaren21]

I see a mean gossip as a social bully.

[@revk-squared9046]

There’s a story in Quran about Moses and a Teacher. Very similar to the Guru story.

[@maureendrennan9328]

Books and educational stuff.

[@johnburke3445]

Hedy Lamarr a gossip???? Don't think so (she was an actress and an inventor). Perhaps CM meant to say Hedda Hopper (who was a gossip columnist)?

[@bowenalignzknott582]

How do we see our 'history' how do I discern that truth. To see clearly?

[@rwhorton44]

Hedda Hopper...not Hedy Lamar, she was an actress and intellectual.

[@jonhinson5701]

Do you mean Hedda Hopper instead of Hedy Lamarr?

[@lesleyhumphrey6498]

Careful Caroline. I think you meant Hedda Hopper.

[@imaniwilson1848]

To Caroline’s Team: Please post a correction of Caroline’s mistaken reference to Hedy Lamar vs. Hedda Hopper. I’m sure it was an innocent mistake, but it deserves to be acknowledged and corrected. Thank you!

[@marynanceschellenbach3359]

Oops! Hedda Hopper, not Hedy Lamarr

[@usernameida]

I love you😍🙏Eat bread💪❤️

[@annlarson3723]

It was Hedda Hooper not Heddie Lamar

[@tom99790]

What archetype would be the primary one that runs Trump? Bully?

[@nyu3492]

Narcissist

[@tom99790]

@@nyu3492 I know this is a psychological diagnosis, but doubtful that it is an archetype. Are you sure?

[@nyu3492]

@@tom99790 I didn’t think so either but Caroline did a video recently on narcissists. It doesn’t matter… this is a very power hungry guy who feels horrible about himself if he is not on top of the world. For me it’s more interesting how many people are mesmerized by such an obviously incompetent person. I guess there are no good alternative candidates for them so they project their hopes and desires onto him.

[@claudiaoprean7433]

💙💚🧡💜💚💛🧡💙🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@marjcsb8672]

Carolyn Myss I love your work so much one time I listen to a tape of yours “Anatomy of the Spirit “ at least 100 times. However, I’d encourage you to reconsider only sharing the idea that Hedy Lamarr may have introduced gossip by listening to her story. I believe she was a misunderstood woman, and today she would’ve been far different I think gossip was used by her to protect herself when she came to Hollywood, perhaps that got out of hand she did invent a technology that might be behind all of our cell phones, and helped Howard Hughes to design a faster airplane. I don’t think many people care about that, but being a wannabe geek, she’s been one of my Heroes. I’m sorry that she may have disappointed the world in someway. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYKlkINunNuNY8U

[@marjcsb8672]

I still love ❤️ all your work, and look forward to every single new episode that you publish🏠. I consider you a genius in your work and you have helped me to sort out numerous spiritual questions… Including your book on archetypes, which turned out to be a predictive exercise in my life.

[@miriamceornea97]

I'm sorry but the story of the murderer that was not saved from drawning to me makes not sense, how do you NOT know that if you would have save that person that was almost to loose their life., they might have almost experience the "horror" or death on himself in a a way that is not "natural" death but is caused by something exterior, altho obviously you bring it on yourself, might have not changed his mind or heart....?! to say, do not help anyone because they might be people that cause harm, dose not seam like a grate teaching at all. It is like an eye for an eye and this is not the teaching or CHRIST at all, dose not mean that we should be foolish and support peoples hurtful behavior but I once had that, a man with his head bent over a bench in the train, I could have signalized that to the train driver, they could have called an ambulance and seen if the man was doing good, might have been a druken person, might have been someone on drugs ecc. but the point was, I could have done something and still have decided not too, because in my head I also thought, someone else will, which probabbly did but why did I not do it? to be it was to not "bother" other people on the train, I was more afraid of people negative reaction because they had to get to work and stopping in the middle of the rail road would have blocked or delayed the trains and this is why but the shame that I felt for not having done it KNOWING I could have, man that was something I sometimes think about this day, I don't beat myself up for that but there is not excuse to what people might have done in the past that should stop anyone from caring and act nice or do whatever is needed, what if in that moment it was God acting throw me giving me guidance and I just decided to bypass it, what if that guy that toll the men in the story was also not his consciousness speaking to him, I fully understand not getting overly aggressive or desperate if not able to have help more in certain situations but it is NOT an excuse.

[@miriamceornea97]

one more thing, in Austria that is even called "unterlassene Hilfeleistung", which means that if you had the mean and capacity to do something but you just watched and avoided it and you get called in as a witness and they find out that you did nothing, you actually can get a jail sentence for it

[@user-ns9zc5wx6i]

Then what is Christ about? We turn the other cheek, we forgive, we feel compassion and empathy?

[@naturelover1284]

the snoop gets offended and feels she has found something out about you if you don't want to tell her all, and she snoops more. YES, SHE! SHE concentrates on all statistics which have to do with your private area. That is why vulgar men call it a money maker. SHE is just as vulgar though it is long, and played out and covert.

[@spawnkie]

Perhaps inappropriate and machiavellian, I will find the gossip and feed them misinformation. It is a credibility thing.

[@DonnaPiaVocci]

a wise person once said helping a person, perceived as deserving, may interrupt their karma. choose wisely. the karmic narrative is key and only accessible by way of trust in the larger cosmic reality of that person, and necessitates detachment of one's bias in perception and understanding derived from that filter. the gossip(ers) has/have followed me from a very, very young age. if history is any teacher much of the motive is based in envy and jealousy. they find pleasure in my challenges instead of focusing on living a full satisfying life base on what gratifies them. seems a total waste. sad.