I usually just roll my eyes at the jokes, but the Charmin Bears thing had me laughing out loud by myself for a while. Good one.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
eye roll = win for CZ
@chevyblue102 жыл бұрын
The cornball stuff is what I love most about CZ. It's what separates CZ from all the others.
@usasidekicks25682 жыл бұрын
I owned the same kind 69 Goat in the early 80s. Bought it for $800.00 primered with a black vinyl top blue interior Ram Air 400 Turbo 400 and factory rally wheels. It got up and went and kept on going! The sweet spot was the way it pulled hard from 40 to about 100 with gobs of torque. I miss that car I really do
@mrnobody31612 жыл бұрын
In Highscool I had a 1970 Monte Carlo 400 cu inch Turbo Jet sml blk V8 with highway 🛣 gears ⚙. Buried the needle many times driving to the mountains ⛰ to 🎿and 🚶♂️. The Stupidity of youth, good times.
@damienreilly80612 жыл бұрын
They are consistent, damn near identical runs all three times except for the GTO spinning on the 3rd race. Great races and really great cars! 🇺🇲🤙
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
👍
@bigthunder28602 жыл бұрын
The HIMIS make power on top end
@puddleduckist2 жыл бұрын
Both very cool cars, i own a 69 gto with a 455. Although the ram air 4's ran good the hemi was more powerful and not really a fair race in my opinion. But the gto still ran very strong.
@LoulovesspeedАй бұрын
Or the Cuda didn't. The 426 should have eaten that 400 GTO for lunch!
@63MacGuy2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I LOVE the finish line replay. I love GTOs but there’re not going to beat that Hemi.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
👍😎
@kennycamaro23612 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the Hemi… usually
@garybattaglia40092 жыл бұрын
I don't think I will ever look at a Pastrami sandwich the same way again....
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
And you shouldn’t
@jayschmahl92062 жыл бұрын
Great race and two incredible machines. I grew up in a family that drove Ford's, GM's, and Mopar's and the Mopar's will alway's be my first love. Back in 1973 one of my neighbor's drove a lemon twist Hemi 'Cuda...Lucky Bastard!
@samhaines82282 жыл бұрын
love these match-ups! great cars, run like they came from the dealership (very close to that anyway). Kudos to the owners, the event organizers and of course to the Zebra for these awesome videos!!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
@Wilson-cp4gx2 жыл бұрын
I love the channel. The Poncho was 3 tenths faster than I expected, but you would expect high 11’s from a street hemi.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Both impressive 👍
@Dogboy1960Ай бұрын
No you wouldn't. No stock issue "street hemi" was even remotely close to that fast. One interesting piece of the rules for this class is found in how racers must keep most things pretty close to stock yet they do have a lot of latitude concerning Compression. Allowed to go a full 1.5points over stock. That's a BIG DEAL for a "Street Hemi". With it's race specific head design these engines gave away a lot in the lower RPM range. That extra compression makes a big difference for the middle of the torque curve in the Street Hemi. The rules posted allow you a higher stall speed converter in the 727 3 speed......again another big advantage for a Hemi that makes most of it's usable power above 4,000RPM. The sooner it can get there the better for times. On better than available street tires from back in 1970 I'd expect a low 13 easily drops into the mid to high 12s.......getting down to high 11 as seen here......gotta imagine this racer is taking full advantage of rules allowing him to up that compression to 12:1 and he's probably running all of the allowed converter stall and probably grabbing as manyof the few extra cubic inches an over bore, within the rules will allow as well. Don't let anyone tell you those are stock issue intakes, heads or exhaust manifolds either. The fastest Racers in this class know all the tricks concerning porting and removing material inside for way more flow than the stock exterior suggests. Getting a low 13sec Hemi Cuda into the high 12s isn't a big effort. Getting it into the high 11s WITHOUT headers, slicks and a lot more cam........that's the Herculean effort that is pretty awesome and big part of why I'd never say, "high 11s are what you would expect from a street hemi". This racer knows his car and his stuff. He's punching way above his weight with this car and what I'd have expected.
@davidbattaglia23362 жыл бұрын
I appreciate both those cars and drivers. But I REALLY appreciate your astute observation with regards to the Charmin Bears. They’ve been outted!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Those dirty, dirty bears
@davidbattaglia23362 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras They edited that part out of the Goldilocks story. Or at least it was in Book 2: Goldilocks and the Poo-Playing Bears
@wtdonovan8 ай бұрын
How the hell did I miss this installment? This is so pure!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you join the “stock appearing drag racers” group on Facebook to support the owners of these cars!
@flyonbyya2 жыл бұрын
I went for the first time this year, and although I found the collection of classic muscle in action amazing…I was quite disappointed and unsuccessful in locating the great Zebra faced one.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
I was there, but I’m very sneaky. You probably recognize this matchup from this year.
@aschuppe2 жыл бұрын
Great races! Unbelievably consistent! Those are two beautiful cars, first gen real top of the line muscle cars.
@charlesdalton9852 жыл бұрын
Another very close one on paper. The stats, stock, put this tight. Let’s see who took better advantage of the rules and who is the better driver. I’m going to go with the Cuda, thinking the GTO might be too steep in gearing. What the heck, it’s a guess. Looking forward to this one,. As always, thank you 🌮 🌮
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@charlesdalton9852 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras Great race - as consistent as those times were, both drivers know their cars. Thanks again.
@mjs28s2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what they look like on paper. These are not 'as produced' else they would be running in the 14's or maybe high 13s if lucky.
@69Dartman2 жыл бұрын
@@mjs28s True, but none of the cars stayed factory stock for long if the owners were playing with their cars. There are cheap and easy things you can do to any car if you know your car well and it goes up from there if you have the money and just want to go fast. Both those cars were super consistent.
@spaceflight10192 жыл бұрын
Just guessing, but the biggest change is that neither car is running OEM tires. The Cuda ran on Goodyear Polyglas bias-ply tires while the Goat ran on Uniroyal Tiger Paws bias-ply tires. The first item on the go-fast list back then was a set of wider cheater slicks.
@srt8rocketship2412 жыл бұрын
Damn great old school muscle. Cuda looks cool but i want either one.
@deebo472 жыл бұрын
Great race! Thanks C&Z!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@timmotel58042 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Very close. Love um both. Thanks
@John1Brady2 жыл бұрын
Both these cars are very well "prepared"... they are FAST!
@charlesbear58672 жыл бұрын
Had a 68 goat, ragtop with a 400 under the hood. Wish I still had it
@calebrose46072 жыл бұрын
these two cars seem very consistent in the quarter mile, both running high 11s and low 12s. that's pretty quick
@randyrobey5643Ай бұрын
It looked like the Pontiac driver had slightly quicker reaction times, but the Cuda was just a little faster.
@68dart2 жыл бұрын
Awesome , No surprise here , Thanks C&Z
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnwilkerson21952 жыл бұрын
Very close race though
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great race! 👍
@stephenwilkinson83962 жыл бұрын
Absolutely AWESOME !!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
👍
@brianr5665 Жыл бұрын
Both beautiful cars. Kind of expected the outcome. But all an all an awesome race! Glad to be able to see it.
@plymouthdie-castreplicas2 жыл бұрын
Incredible times... Totally love the '70 Hemi 'Cuda. The king of Mopars!
@sergiojacquez22772 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Cuda, but my favorite Mopar is a 69 roadrunner
@plymouthdie-castreplicas2 жыл бұрын
@@sergiojacquez2277 Great taste, sir. The '69 model year RR is the most badass! Mainly the A12 version.
@scrapplepig9 күн бұрын
My car would be 70 or 71 Challenger, very close to the Cuda.
@plymouthdie-castreplicas8 күн бұрын
@@scrapplepig Yes, they are siblings. Love these cars♥
@131601Ай бұрын
It’s unbelievable they actually run both those rare cars ! We thank them for it as well as the Zebra !
@archiebunker60592 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, that's a Royal Pontiac, that's why he was right on the heels of the Mopar 👍💪
@TheKillerMarine2 жыл бұрын
Still lost GM was taking the L way back then like they do today
@archiebunker60592 жыл бұрын
@@TheKillerMarine Chevrolet has won more motorsports races than any manufacturer in the world.
@CaptainFALKEN Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Ford went in to Le Mans, something new to them, won four years in a row and then left like it was nothing.
@jangofett82102 жыл бұрын
That intro is fire. Reminds me of something😏😏
@leonardwashington99972 жыл бұрын
Back in the day..real muscle 💪 Cars keep on bringing them back👍!!
@allanwhite97162 жыл бұрын
Great idea adding a camera down by the finish line.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
👍
@scott707072 жыл бұрын
Lets not kid ourselves,,,neither car is completely stock under the hood. Youre not going to recurve the dist and rejet the carb from stock and run 115 -117 mph.Stilll love the race though. Im a pontiac guy so I was happy to see the ETs and mph that close between the cars.
@johnnystafford18262 жыл бұрын
Both good drivers I would say, the times consistent. The Hemi just had a little more that day is all. The results could be different on another day. Damn good racing is what that is!
@GregZentTrumpetManАй бұрын
Yeah, nfw those cars were running 115 and 117 in quarter with stock machines.
@illegalmachine2 жыл бұрын
The PA guy said that's BK "Mr Six Pack". I was literally emailing with him last week about a cam for my 383 Super Bee!
@matthewblank2142 күн бұрын
That Ram Air lV is a true 445 hp motor with headers and that came from George Delorean himself,tough to beat on the street but the 428 with round ports heads was even better
@alainverse332 жыл бұрын
Comment des voitures de 50 ans arrivent encore à nous faire autant rêver ? Il y a du génie dans ces bagnoles assurément 😉👍 J'ai un Ram Hemi 2004 et déjà, je kiffe alors j'imagine même pas ces bijoux😍
@davidpayne27032 жыл бұрын
Thank You C & Z - Luv that Tor-Red Cuda
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mannyr.27562 жыл бұрын
I enjoy that very much it was a really good match even though the Hemi had him on all three runs.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good race!
@lilredexptsc2 жыл бұрын
My god that intro killed me. You just get better and better my guy.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to pick up on it…. or maybe nobody is willing to admit they recognize it 😁
@67GTV2 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras Cudos on the upgraded video editing, C&Z! Your humor always cracks me up. Those non-narated videos seem so empty. The finish line camera is a great add-on! Can that cameraman stand closr to the finish? It would be great to see them cross at the line. Regardless, I am no longer squinting to see the finish line. 😀🤘🍀 67GTV
@1563smb2 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome race for sure both cars are way cool.
@jasonkrause67782 жыл бұрын
That GTO Gave that cuda a run for its money Both Outstanding Cars !!!
@louiskats51162 жыл бұрын
Goodday C & Z, Absolutely awesome, the old saying " It takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar ". The Goat tried & man low 12's is extremely respectable but a Hemi good try. Regardless of the outcome, awesome muscle cars to admire all the same. Dig the finish line camera work fantastic intresting how much of a distance less than a half second is. You are talk a car length. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting! Thanks for watching!
@southbound19692 жыл бұрын
CRIKEY!
@policeofficer942 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS!!! You make me so happy C&Z!!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@spartynation70212 жыл бұрын
Wow the pure stock guy's got there S''t together. These cars are approaching 'super stock' style performance only on street tires. Kudos on the vid.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jimwhite1061Ай бұрын
I didn't know that 400 gto could run like that. Everyone knows those Elephant cars run good, but low 12s for that gto surprised me.
@Welcometofacsistube2 жыл бұрын
From the dawn of time to the ends of the earth as its always been, it takes a mopar to catch a mopar
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be the same without you
@Welcometofacsistube2 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras nor you brother
@bunk-bn9eo2 жыл бұрын
I think the LS6 is the "stiffest" competition.
@awalk562 жыл бұрын
Delighted your narrative is back.
@seventybuick2 жыл бұрын
Those are not stock.
@charlesr.aliffjr.4050Ай бұрын
Ya think? 🙄
@ronnietippett1075 Жыл бұрын
surprized how good of run the underdog Pontiac gave the big bad Hemi great race
@SUMM3RY2 жыл бұрын
The gto is just BEAUTIFUL
@gary94262 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great matchup...should be pretty close!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
definitely an interesting race!
@davidbattaglia23362 жыл бұрын
Love the looks of that GTO. Even as a kid, I loved the Pontiac nose. Family friends had a Tempest in the early 70's. Sweet looking car!
@willk.illyouii55832 жыл бұрын
The hemi"s were also cantankerous, and the 440 was more reliable on the street.
@zubitron52 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Hemi was a monster when properly prepared but it took more expertise than the normal person had.
@willk.illyouii55832 жыл бұрын
@@zubitron5 the average idiot would blow up the original hemi showing off for his friends!!💔
@1badhaircut2 жыл бұрын
@@zubitron5 My dad had several - the ‘66 did need some lifter adjustments but the later ones had zero issues. I’m guessing that modified and beat-on cars created that myth but from our experience- it was a friendly beast. The ONlY complaint was mpg but gas was cheap. Today, even Jay Leno complains - but that’s all for show.
@PetrolheadAEHG2 жыл бұрын
Is this 1/4 mile racing? I can't understand how both cars are over a second faster than in the original tests, but it's incredible to see them run so close, great video.
@paulplack4902 жыл бұрын
If the rules are the same as they were a few years ago, the Pure Stock riles allow overbores to .060 and compression increases of as much as 1.5 points. I assume it's to allow tolerances for rebuilds and milling heads/decks to get them flat, but there are obviously side benefits!
@mailiang12 жыл бұрын
In the day, I ran a stock 67 Goat with the 3:55 rear, and a few tweaks, at Raceway Park, NJ. It did high 13's with traps around 105-107 mph. Nice et's, but those cars ain't exactly stock.
@ThePaulv122 жыл бұрын
You might be interested to know what a 426 Hemi actually made. Nick's Garage did a test on his 'Keeper' (which he sold LOL) and it was as OEM as a Hemi could possibly be in 2018/19 or whenever the motor was rebuilt. It had OEM exhaust manifolds, manifold pre heater flaps and piping, OEM distributor and Carter carbs, intake comp etc. All that wasn't OEM was the +.030" overbore. So it made 492 HP @ 5800rpm IIRC. This shows the potential of the stock Hemi. So 2, 1/8th primary tube 4 into 1 headers, the Vanke mod to the intake and a rejet would likely net you 80-100hp over stock. Then you could put a Racer Brown solid lifter flat tappet camshaft in it you could be sniffing at 600hp. The lowish factory power rating of them actually adds to the mystique.
@goneshootin612 жыл бұрын
Much better match up than the last video !
@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene2 жыл бұрын
Me and my husband LOVES these videos, aside from the races, we love the jokes and evil laugh lol. (We sometimes skip it if it has a FoRd in it.)
@mileswoods2 жыл бұрын
I had a 69 GTO the same color and i still miss it TODAY
@mrkemblegilstrap2 жыл бұрын
Great cars! Great racing. I'm extremely impressed with how well they ran. I watched it twice to try to find the cubic inches of the Pontiac. I'm a Mopar guy and am not familiar with specs on a ram air 4. 389? 421? 455 are my guesses, lol.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
400 cubic inches, briefly listed in the lower right corner 👍
@samhaines82282 жыл бұрын
I believe it's 400 c.i.d.
@mrkemblegilstrap2 жыл бұрын
@@samhaines8228 thanks guys! I guess I was too busy looking at the motor, lol. Obviously I don't know anything about Pontiacs, doh!
@samhaines82282 жыл бұрын
@@mrkemblegilstrap I don't know too much about Pontiac engines either to be honest. They seem to come in displacement sizes different from other GM manufacturers.
@mrkemblegilstrap2 жыл бұрын
@@samhaines8228 I heard that! We had a 326(?), in a Catalina 2+2, back in the 60s. I'll never do a search on anything except Mopar because I don't want 100 million suggestions on cars I consider the "enemy ", lol
@benkrom27372 жыл бұрын
After launch cars seemed to stay relatively same distance from each other. Definitely torque of the hemi won this race
@dragginwagon4062 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@johntempest2672 жыл бұрын
Looked to me as though the races were settled in the first 60 ft. Two awesome cars/drivers.
@Y3nk02 жыл бұрын
'69 RAIV GTO = cream jean dream
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
😎
@futon022 жыл бұрын
Mr six pack has a hemi too???? JEALOUS. Great races by two of my favorite cars
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Yup 😎
@Colt-tf6xf Жыл бұрын
It was so close, it might have been the driver. Hole shots are everything.
@jedzcutz89212 жыл бұрын
What we're looking at is about a quarter of a million worth of cars being driven the way they were designed....doesn't get any better!
@haromaster60862 жыл бұрын
always entertaining. thank you
@ivanmarkovicxxx2 жыл бұрын
I am building a street 301T Pontiac stroker. As I understand, the 301T short-deck block was basically a retooled RA V 303 TA bottom end. I would love to come race it when it's done, but it's hardly stock any more. When I pop the hood however, it will look just like a stock 301 (with emissions removed), & shorty headers.
@watchthetriple82242 жыл бұрын
Good racing!!!
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice match-up!
@watchthetriple82242 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras glad the guys race them instead of making them garage queens. Enjoy the videos.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Not many on the roads now!
@bdogjr77792 жыл бұрын
SHAKER hood scoop let the HEMI breathe🔊🇺🇸
@TheDatadrew2 жыл бұрын
It's just not enough to lose twice in your Pontiac.... 3rd time is the charm!
@soldierski16692 жыл бұрын
The GTO is running essentially what it would off the dealership. The 426 is not.
@1badhaircut2 жыл бұрын
A RamAir 5 455 was designed but never produced - probably because GM knew the party was over. It would have corrected inherent breathing limitation and given hemi-like power.
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been interesting to see!
@bunk-bn9eo2 жыл бұрын
The parts are out there for the V. The real issue for the V was for it to really get the most out of it - it needed more cid's. We're talking close to 500 cid to really get it to breath. 455 was the most they had to play with - and yes, the timing was terrible with the 70's closing in. There is a 69 GTO out there with a RA V. Look around on KZbin or Google.
@soldierski16692 жыл бұрын
GM never liked PMD beating up Chevy. They took away the tripower (but not chevy) they refused the motor redesign (SD) and limited Forged Rods. The "V" would have been just better than the 4 in power, only way to make it "friendly" would be to de-tune it, those ports have no velocity at low rpms. At the point you start swinging 600+hp the rods come into play, after Forged rods you start knocking on the 850hp -ish limit if those blocks and that after snapping off lifter bores with high lift cams that support those heads. In the end, those heads needed the SD block..
@dougsholly9323Ай бұрын
You just can't give up 26 ci to a hemi and win. Still solid performance... from both cars. Dipping into the 11s in the Cuda got me a little sticky below the belt too...
@daleliske9757Ай бұрын
Both, absolutely great cars, my hat's off to running them both to their potential. At your Initial expense.
@jim-er8in Жыл бұрын
Hey Love the finish line replay so cool !!!!!
@wattsmichaele2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and awesome. Thank you!
@PatrickSeanEarl2 жыл бұрын
Now that was a nice match up
@dennisjoseph6292 жыл бұрын
Rare with bench seat and column shift. Awesome..
@user-wy7ox2ms2t9 ай бұрын
I can't belive that ram air iv has a column shift and a bench seat.
@jayrowe64732 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd get Rick Rolled in a C&Z Video... or did I.
@CaptainFALKEN Жыл бұрын
Lmao at the narration. Keep it up, man. This video is awesome
@kennycamaro2361 Жыл бұрын
Charming bears was killing me dude!
@joebuzz27582 жыл бұрын
Love all the commentary in these videos lol 😆 That damn bear! 🐻 🤣 😂
@timothyburleigh682 жыл бұрын
That little extra weight in the GTO held it back. I'm sure if you put thicker tires in the back the GTO would have got a better time. Still a impressive run.
@LORISSABOOBMAN11 ай бұрын
Dropped something in the Cuda motor lots of smoke blow by at the end.
@steelpenguin12 жыл бұрын
If you don’t get a jump on a 426 you can just forget it because they continue to walk other Muscle cars. Those Hemi’s loved to rev at high speeds. A 440-6 was actually faster off the line, the 426 had the top end.
@gary94262 жыл бұрын
The RAIV 400 was also a great top end motor....I think C&Z said this Poncho has run in the 11's....must have had an off day or something..getting beat three times by that Plymouth was definitely impressive!
@kevinmcduffie1092 Жыл бұрын
They didn't walk 🚶 the Cuda 440 supercommando! They couldn't beat it! Only time I know of it being beaten was by a '69 Camaro Z28 302!!
@randallgreen67462 жыл бұрын
It doesn't get much closer than that.
@michaelwallace79722 жыл бұрын
That's not just a Ram Air IV GTO, it's a Royal Bobcat car. Think Yenko. Delivered to them from the factory, they tune up the car and then deliver it to the costumer.
@kevinmanning48802 жыл бұрын
Great race, both drivers are very consistent. The story about, "Blackbird" and "Silver Bullet". Black Bird did eventually beat Silver Bullet. The Ram Air V is something to be reproduced.
@ericmurphy36802 ай бұрын
Good racing like both cars, I would like to see repeat of both cars, but with equal horsepower. The cuda is 56 horses more so it's always going to beat the less horsepower.
@jimhall54722 жыл бұрын
That Mopar is a beautiful beast!
@tomgeorge30232 жыл бұрын
The Hemi is about to eat a goat
@CarsAndZebras2 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@GarlicKnot52 жыл бұрын
Definitely can tell the drivers know what they’re doing
@stevesosebee58602 жыл бұрын
I love that ‘Cuda !!!
@joshbrekke6374 Жыл бұрын
RamAir V Tunnel Port could/would take the Hemi. By a lot honestly. Two Very Awesome cars, very consistent!
@chevyblue102 жыл бұрын
Out of all the cars I've seen matched up on CZ, I think I like this pair the best. I think I'll go buy a scratch off with this last dollar. Wish me luck. You'll know I won if you see me on CZ racing both these.
@RailFanRob2 жыл бұрын
Why are the times so much quicker than the original tests from years ago...