1970 Chevelle SS396 vs 1970 Oldsmobile 442 W30 - Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race

[@CarsAndZebras]

So how about THIS match up?!??! 1970 was a great year for muscle cars, and these 2 are a prime example. I think that Chevelle is a little underrated at 350 horsepower, and that W30 can really move!

[@CarsAndZebras]

I shot this video myself last year, genius

[@davelowets]

@@johndillinger8482 😆🤦🏻

[@jeremythompson9122]

Both awesome rides but id take the 442 if I had to choose one. Always thought the Buick GS/GSX and Oldsmobile 442 were the best looking of the 1970-72 GM A-Bodies and also more rare than the Chevelle SS and GTO. And the 70 442 W-30 is probably my favorite Oldsmobile ever made. I always liked the 66-67 and 68-69 Chevelle SS body style better than the 70-72. I'd take a 69 Chevelle COPO 427 over any other Chevelle...even a 70 LS6

[@Dwayne6692]

We had the ‘72. Awesome car

[@andrewcannon587]

same here, i prefer the street torque over revy horsepower. 1970 and 1972 olds cutlass look the best of the '70 muscle car. I say 69 mustang boss look the best for 1969. I also like the buick GS stage 1 & 2. Olds and buick combine sport performance and luxury styling in 1 package.

[@lilmike2710]

Let's not leave out that sweet 1968 Hurst Olds 455. "The gentlemans hot rod". That particular car sent many a proud Chevy owner back to their garage for upgrades back in the day.

[@aaronbuehler1270]

Chevelle bodystyle was same 69-70. Wasn’t until 71 they changed over to corner blinker light.

[@catman9186]

Another driver to run the olds.

[@sharonw2475]

Bought a used 1969 SS 396 Chevelle in 1973, 350 HP, turbo 400 trans, 4.10 posi, and on the street I never lost a drag......and I ran anything that wanted to race, including GTO's, 4-4-2's, Road Runners, Corvettes and the easiest to beat was any Mustang from the Hi-Po 289, 390's, and the 428's. Those 396's were simply ass kicking machines.

[@jbtex784]

Seems to me that 4 speed was the advantage, switch transmissions and I believe the Olds would've won.

[@maximumcoverage5591]

Gears and driver. The chevelle got the light every time.

[@mason5540]

I think the rear gearing

[@jaylamb9546]

That is actually a good running 396, I was surprised by it.

[@zxtenn]

I am 65, in 1975 i worked at a Shell station in MA and someone who also worked there had a DEAD STOCK 70 396 Chevelle 4 speed with 331 gears, the best he got was high 14's at about 95 at Epping drag strip in NH on Grudge night, cost to race was 2 BUCKS!!!!!!! So i agree unless it was a 396/375 that was a better than average time and higher MPH

[@SealofPerfection]

@@zxtenn They are tuned and blueprinted. Makes a big difference.

[@treysf4154]

2 of my favorite muscle cars fight it out in a drag race

[@billcowie1708]

The Olds guy was babying it. I had a stock 70 W31(350) and I would 50/50 beat my friend in his 70 SS396. The W30 should be a close match to a healthy SS454.

[@historynerdneiledits]

Ye

[@wildestcowboy2668]

Neither of them are remotely close to the 426 hemi powered charger!

[@mattdavis5994]

The chevy 396 isnt no punk

[@vm2595]

@@wildestcowboy2668i guess you missed the video here, where the “hemi” gets smoked by the olds

[@jeremythompson9122]

Both of these are awesome rides but if I had to choose one it would be the Olds. The 1970 442 W-30 is my favorite Oldsmobile ever made. Their 500 lb/ft of torque was just brutal and besides being really fast they were also a really good looking and a really comfortable car to drive and ride in. Always thought the Olds 442 and Buick GS were the best looking of the 1970-72 GM A-Bodies

[@mattdavis5994]

As a 69 396 owner, their a force to be reckoned with

[@JackJetsNStuff]

Not much of a 396 fan but that was pretty qiuck

[@lilmike2710]

If the 442 owner would have prepped with a burnout I think it would have won handily. It lost traction through all shifts.

[@johnsmithth3318]

Yeah a couple of guys I grew up with (brothers ),1 with a hard top, 1 with a rag. Street drag all the time. Man those were the days

[@CarsAndZebras]

Now you lose your license for doing that! Haha

[@roberthaibi2304]

2 legends .nice to see these cars still alive Stock..............

[@timmotel5804]

2022: Great cars, great race. Thanks

[@Jakechad04]

Great uncle has a 72 Chevelle and damn are those old muscle cars good looking, wish I had one of those races where I lived

[@Ayaki6166]

Real CSR Classics !!!! I love vintage cars and vintage muscle cars. special i love 1968-1971 Oldsmobile 442 and Oldsmobile Cutlass.

[@dougmurray7684]

From the brief video, that Chevelle looks to be a super clean car. Hats off to the owner. Well done!

[@gary9426]

The '70 W-30 is one of the most underrated cars of the musclecar era..it was a beast! Maybe the pinnacle of Olds performance...

[@xTHEmuffinMAN1x]

Love 60s-70s muscle cars, I will be restoring either one of these cars in the near future. I just can't decide which one. I will not be racing it that's for sure lol. You just gained a subscriber.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Through time I've definitely learned to appreciate those 442 W30s a lot more. The Chevelle is cool no doubt, but I like the uniqueness of the W-30. I know what you mean about racing... last year a gentlemen blew the motor on his 1970 Hemi Cuda. Think about how much money you lose then.

[@TheBb6prelude]

xTHEmuffinMAN1x that’s like having a hot girlfriend and not fucking her

[@sdushdiu]

Someone wake up the driver of the Olds! Those starts........

[@hugieflhr03]

The 4 speed definitely makes a difference but you can see the 455 torque chasing down that Chevelle towards the end

[@Ubotit_Unaymit]

Can it be a 442 with a 3 speed automatic? Just curious, because I thought 442 stood for 4bbl carb, 4 speed manual trans, and 2 wheel posi-trac differential.

[@paulciprus9582]

Ubotit Unaymit ...4 speed...four barrel...dual exhaust....learn it ....live it...know it....

[@daless3526]

In 1964 442 stood for 4 barrel carb, 4 speed and dual exhaust. Then in 1965 and beyond it was changed to 400 series engine (400,425 or 455 cu in), 4 barrel and dual exhaust. That's because they started offering automatics in the 442 in '65 and later years.

[@Ubotit_Unaymit]

@@daless3526 I almost had it. Lol. I love the 442, but my dream car is a GTO

[@rogermcgrady2019]

Something wrong olds

[@eeezymoney]

I love all of these old cars, but it's so shocking seeing how slow they are stock vs newer cars.

[@v.e.7236]

You cut the tie-breaker!?

[@CarsAndZebras]

Camera malfunction that year... $hit happens

[@jbr496]

I was expecting the Olds to be a little quicker. It's off 2 or 3 tenths from the 442 a friend of mine had.

[@davelowets]

Depends on his reaction time too. He could have been sleeping at the light.

[@scottjustscott3730]

Why no pit shots of the Olds? Was it a camera problem or did the guy just not want it to be on the youtubes?

[@scottjustscott3730]

Also why did that @$$hole accuse you of stealing content? Did you investigate to see if someone was stealing your stuff?

[@KevinDOdy]

Maybe a fake w30

[@vhp454]

Chevys 396 was a secret weapon for cars. Chevy never told the truth about any of its big blocks. I have seen many 396s set up correctly in camaros to dip into 11s with no issues.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

But a 1969 firebird could beat the well tune Camaro even with 1969 zl1 rare big block

[@SealofPerfection]

@@AlejandroP1980s I'm a Pontiac fan, but no...no Pontiac was beating a ZL1 Camaro.

[@ben2687]

Nice video. Honestly a great race and good pairing. Love both cars.

[@donaldkinder6716]

Chevy is still the king, of GM cars, drag racing

[@Christopher-mi6qe]

The 442 should have had the M21 in it. Would have won.

[@DanKoning777]

Pure Stock? Somethings not right here. Though the Chevelle was under rated in HP so was the HO. I raced many of these Chevelle's and never lost to one. Again, somethings not right here.

[@thefupalord9630]

Pure Stock is a drag racing series, genius. They allow mods.

[@bryankoehler8765]

Why are captions on ???

[@CarsAndZebras]

because you hit the “captions on” button

[@trertg7147]

😅 r/ old people KZbin

[@BigDaeD18]

I like both of these cars bro❤❤👊

[@chrisbrennan7797]

The W-30 would of smoked the chevelle if its REAL and dont forget the Chevy had 410,s I have beat many of all these cars because I've had almost every car they came out with new and original and my 70 W-30 automatic With the ow trans has beat them all with my 342 gears ,the perfect all around gear .I'm not being a wise guy I'm just being real.Ive had original W31,s w30, race cars with 456to323 s and 390 ,way to much on my last w30 automatic .the 390,a were acceptable on my 4 speed but that's that ! There is so much and I love them all but the Oldsmobile, are every thing from comfort ,handling ect! Was out yesterday ,a cool crisp day and had a friend in the car with me ,wish I had bvb a video of the day but I punched my foot to the floor at around 70 mph and left rubber not a chirp of gears,the car went to the sideways a little bit ,and the nose rose and she was gone and I j also have some good meats in the back 60 ,s i believe .thing can get scary .I always respect it or I could easily kill my self in my car

[@xanderbekkett4988]

Me Too. Gold 1970 442, W30 - 3.90 positrack - 2-1/4 " headers - HP secondary metering rods - 12.56 trap time - 104.78 MPH in 1971 (Aug.) at Bison Drag Strip near Winnipeg.

[@angeldanielgaritachea2192]

Vuelven ala vida 💯💯💯 soy fanático de esas carreras 👍👍👍👍👍

[@jeffiid4011]

They had a 375 hp 396 ,350, 325 hp maybe Athens 325 motor would be a good race

[@theexplodedguys264]

1:00?

[@tubedude4859]

you mean a 70 chevelle 396 /402 .the y may have said 396 on the block but were bored 30 over from GM. in 1970 .A little game GM played .Why do i know this ? because I am a historian who worked at the plant >

[@impalaman9707]

If the 442 had the same wheels as the Chevelle, it would be a much cooler looking ride. Wouldn't necessarily make it faster, but it would make it look faster to lose those "granny" wheels!

[@depprjd]

No comparison, 442 needs standard or 396 needs automatic transmission

[@MrSteve280]

Something is up with the Chevelle (I owned 2 back in the day). No L34 ever made ran mid 13s in showroom trim. Even L78 and LS6 Chevelles would barely do that.

[@vjakejan]

Not totally true! I still have my 1970 L34. I still have the best time slip in the quarter at 13.86 104mph. But was never able to hit that again. I'm a terrible driver. I will admit at the time I had 4:56 gearing! Yes it mostly took the L78 to hit low 13s and 12s. Not into that with my age now so car is restored totally back stock right down to bias tires. And it for sure is a ss396 with build sheet and sales documents with original engine/trans.

[@MrSteve280]

@@vjakejan 104mph with 4.56 gears would put a L34 well over red line and the totally mismatched to the stock cam. You were able to do what no automotive magazine of the time could do. Motor Trend, Feb, '66: '66 SS396, 360 hp, 4sp, 3.31 posi; 15.5 at 89 mph. Cars, May, '66: '66 SS396, 360 hp, M20 4 sp, 3.73 posi; 15.85 at 91 mph. Motor Trend, July '67 (3 car test): '67 SS396, 325 hp, Powerglide, 3.07; 15.9 at 89.5 mph. '67 SS396, 375 hp, 4 sp, 3.73; 14.9 at 96.5 mph. '67 El Camino 396, 325 hp, Turbo 400, 2.73; 15.7 at 90 mph. Car Life, Jan, '70: '70 SS396, 350 hp, Turbo 400, 3.31; 15.5 at 90.42 mph. Motor Trend, July '65: '65 Z16 SS396; 4 sp, 3.31; 14.9 at 98 mph. Motor Trend, Dec, '69: '70 LS-6 SS454, Turbo 400, 3.31; 13.85 at 97.5 mph. Car Craft, Jan, '71: '71 LS-5 SS454, Turbo 400, 3.31; 14.35 at 97.08. I raced Chevelles in 1972-73, both 4 spds, the stock '69 L35 ran mid/low 14s and the 70' L34 ran either side of 14 with no power equipment. Both were 3.73 rears.

[@matthewblank214]

What, i have been around some cool cars along my journey and being a Pontiac guy for years those 396 cars gave me fits. My dad had a bone stock 69 Judge ra 3 and 4spd, i raced it and cruised looking for prey, the 396 was the only engine the could outrun me on the top end floor. 428 ford, 351 clevland, 440 6 pack, w30 and amx 390 among others lost repeatedly at the muscle car national back in 1989. So much depended on traction, todays tires are leaps and bounds better for strong holeshots

[@MrSteve280]

@@matthewblank214 Engines required proper tuning and gearing back then. Polyglas tires, tall rear ends, and being limited to 3-4 speeds didn't suit engines like RA3s (I had a '68 RA Firebird at one point). I've been in cars with all of the engines you mentioned including Hemis and there were dogs and there were runners. Although I never owned one, I was always impressed with the '68-'71 340 Mopars in regards to consistency.

[@matthewblank214]

For sure, tuning is very big and a reason why the Royal Pontiac guys were so successful. Having the right amount of total adavnce and come in at the right rpm, gears, jetting, cooler air, blocked off heat risers, gives you a great shot at out running another non prepared car no matter what brand

[@bigthunder2860]

The chevelle is sweet

[@adriandelfabbro8875]

3 speed automatic? lol stop it

[@Riley_Mundt]

How is the Olds a 442 if it has a 3-speed auto instead of a 4-speed manual? Wouldn't it be a Cutlass?

[@robintaylor1490]

Not sure which year it was that the brought in the automatic to the 442, but my 1970 W30 442 was a Hurst automatic with a dual gate shifter. Beat lot's of chevelle's 396,454 auto's and 4spds.

[@Riley_Mundt]

@@robintaylor1490 I was under the impression that 442 specified a Cutlass with a 4-speed manual, 4-barrel carburetor, and dual exhausts.

[@robintaylor1490]

@@Riley_Mundt yes, when the 442 first came out that's what it stood for. When it changed I'm not sure exactly, 1970 for sure.

[@mikestout5079]

At first it was 400 cu inch four spd duel exhaust.

[@robintaylor1490]

@@mikestout5079 exactly right .

[@jonrichardson7848]

I know one thing he wouldve beat my 67 442

[@deancall85]

But that is a 69 Chevelle, not a 70.

[@rsstrazz6261]

??? It's a '70, different body, roof, rear quarter windows, dashboard, etc.

[@mikestout5079]

It's a 70 for sure.

[@davelowets]

Blue one was a 69, green one was a 70

[@nicholasnelson3791]

My stock Taurus sho does these numbers 😂 it did 13.2 stock 1/4.. funny hearing these old heads hate on new cars & the “computers”.. lmao

[@dhill5057]

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