Carstairs SIREN G TEST! Carstairs Village's State Hospital Siren

[@Jaidencharlotte]

Imagine going to Carstairs and not knowing about the sirens and you end up thinking you’re being bombed

[@al66class59]

Same applies to basically anywhere with sirens! You always get ‘your neighbors must love you’ comments on videos if you owned a siren yourself 😂

[@al66class59]

You can buy some old sirens off platforms such as eBay

[@al66class59]

You asked why you can/would own one, I’m saying the reason one can be bought is because they’re sold on eBay and other platforms and reasons why you would is exactly why videos like this one exist; people are interested in things and will buy things they’re interested in

[@ianmclaughlin4043]

Shit day

[@ianmclaughlin4043]

Funny 5ho

[@scooby1992]

That pigeon made the right move !

[@torilink4630]

Gfjdmfg

[@mrmattandmrchay]

That is beautiful!! By the time it's reached full speed, it's already one minute and the sound it cut!! Very nice! I'm gonna give a link to this video in my next siren video at Forth (Climpy)

[@al66class59]

😂😂 nicely done Mr Xiong... This one’s a beauty Matt- probably has a better wind up than Bagshot, at nearly twice the run up length... (and now it’s ringing in my ears as I type this comment 😂) and that lady who happened to be staring oddly at you when you visited this siren was the one who later let me use her garden for camera security. Coincidences are real :p

[@JerriS.]

I wish I had my own 😔😔

[@SirenRecordingsofIowa]

​@@JerriS.I've found the hidden comment!

[@kaiaustin9319]

mrmattandmrchay is the siren man

[@al66class59]

Well, was - he hasn't done much by way of recording them recently, but it's fair to say if it wasn't for his Broadmoor series I wouldn't have got into them!

[@valrabellkeys9867]

Awesome video! CS8s are my favorite.

[@al66class59]

Thanks! I think they’ve got a certain character about them- with the rattling when the shutters close and the rotors start to wind down. If I’m honest, Ravenstruther’s GP12 was a beast! (I filmed it but haven’t uploaded it yet) I’m a big fan of yours btw :)

[@valrabellkeys9867]

@@al66class59 Thank you! I've always loved the HI-LO sound of the CS8. If I ever got to choose a mechanical siren, it would be that. Though the chances of me getting one ever is about 0, so what I'll likely do in the far future is just get a 3T22 and have it rewound for 50hz, 3 phase, 2880RPM.

[@al66class59]

You’d probably also need to adapt the damper timings in order to create that slower hi-lo sound that’s characteristic of the CS8. It’ll be the closest you get without hopping over the pond!

[@valrabellkeys9867]

@@al66class59 I'm pretty sure the RCM in a 3T22 can adjust the speed of the dampers, so I'd likely be able to control it like that, assuming it can go that slow. Otherwise, you are right.

[@MichalM]

This is very weird - they start up a lot slower than Broadmoor and sound awesome! However Broadmoor is the only place you'll hear the high low.

[@al66class59]

This is the slowest of the lot. The majority of the others wind up pretty quickly- but still on average it’s a bit slower than Broadmoor.

[@MichalM]

@@al66class59 It's way slower!!! I love it!

[@jezcolborne6329]

apparently in Canada the nuclear plant in Ontario uses KLAXON CS8 sirens for hi lo. Also in Wales they use a CS6 and a CS8 for the hii lo but its more of a CUCKOO sound as one tone is longer than the other

[@dodgydruid]

I did my training at an asylum in Essex and every friday the siren tests would happen. Different notes/playback for fire, riot on ward or escaped patient, us in nurses quarters off duty also had to assemble at assigned point to lend a hand in those emergency situations but were allowed to ignore the friday tests. I loved working in asylums and was very good at my job too but of course most were built on prime land and property maggots just itching to get abysmal housing estates on all of 'em.

[@al66class59]

Interesting! I suppose these sites probably have internal alarms for these scenarios, but some have external warning sirens too - like Carstairs. Closure of places similar to this has put unnecessary pressure on the remaining sites to deal with everyone who needs psychiatric care, but unfortunately that’s how the world works now. Everything is financially motivated and care quality suffers as a result. Really interesting tale, thanks for sharing it!

[@ZLDSmogless]

It runs up nearly the same speed as it runs down!

[@al66class59]

I know right!!

[@TheOfficialDorianelevator]

E. P. I. C. sounds like a carter. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.

[@CliffNark]

Basically the same thing as a Carter 1H

[@TrainsAreReallyCool]

All of the British dual head sirens sound the same because they all use the same 10/12 port ratio.

[@TheOfficialDorianelevator]

@@TrainsAreReallyCool 5 month late reply, and im talking about RPM, this one spins at a slower RPM than most CS8s resulting in a carter sound, if it spun at its normal RPM it would sound like a castle castings.

[@DSPrints_]

This one has got heating elements under the rotors

[@killerdeamonking]

For cold weathers.

[@ATK_J.Y.S_I.N.D_Offical]

2:04 Winding Up...

[@Vigilance108]

this siren has somewhat ended up like Siren F because the high tone shutter is jammed open and the low tone shutter does pulse which it isn't supposed to do.

[@kennyscott5147]

In 1976 when I was 15 I spent 18 months in carstairs. Now I really am mad, ha,ha,ha.

[@al66class59]

Ah, ok. Must’ve changed a lot since 1976!

[@DonaldDuck-hl2zs]

@al66class59 This Siren Has A Slow Startup Like The Bagshot Depot Siren Or MrMatts Favorite Siren From Broadmoor

[@annabelletabile4912]

I think maybe to broadmoor hospital to many for sale cs8 sirens

[@MardekSirenen]

Wow what a great recording :) I want to ask if I could use the audio for one of my videos to explain the siren signals of the State Hospital. I would link your channel and name you in the video description. ^^

[@al66class59]

Yeah absolutely, go for it! Let me know when it’s out and I’ll take a look!

[@RODALCO2007]

Awesome!

[@MichalM]

Love this video!

[@al66class59]

I was disappointed not to be able to hear a CS8 for myself but then again I wasn’t ever going to regret going to the Ravenstruther siren...

[@MichalM]

@@al66class59 The siren in this video is a CS8! Did you not record it yourself?

[@al66class59]

LEft the camera in the garden of a neighbour (as the video says I think)

[@al66class59]

Plus I’m afraid my next free Monday isn’t until October. I have plans to film this autumn’s Portsmouth Docks Test however- but I’m still yet to find where the sirens actually are!

[@MichalM]

@@al66class59 Same here! I WILL be there during half term, if not earlier!

[@razrramonel4077]

Although I do not have a You Tube Channel, I am a siren enthusiast myself, I have Tornado Sirens from here in Jefferson County, Kentucky United States of America, 4 Federal Signal, & 1 Whelen (2-2001's, 1-Thunderbolt, 1-2T22 {Omni-Directional}, & 1 Whelen Vortex 4004).

[@al66class59]

Now THATS cool!

[@robinausbayern1999]

This siren sounds like it's on a VFD!

[@al66class59]

Yeah it does a bit! Would be interesting to find out why it runs up so slowly.

[@robinausbayern1999]

@@al66class59 Maybe the motor needs to be fixed.

[@al66class59]

COuld be, maybe it’s running on single phase supply, maybe something in the control box ha s broken... we’ll never know

[@kramler]

for a moment i thought my tinnitus was back

[@battytec]

This one sounds alot slower than others. I don't think it is running at full power.

[@MichalM]

Edit: I agree, the note is much lower, and power is being applied slowly on startup.

[@al66class59]

If it has star-delta, it’d be using only the delta mode most likely, as that allows for higher speed running but less power is put through the motor. I doubt that the council would wire it incorrectly.

[@al66class59]

Although yes it sounds like it’s seriously underpowered

[@MichalM]

@@al66class59 Indeed, and isn't it the hospital not the council?

[@al66class59]

Who knows 😂

[@transporttechnologykent5829]

Do you know when these particular sirens were built?

[@al66class59]

not sure, as they were in production by secomak then klaxon from the early 50s right up until 2004. very difficult to give a precise date but id say late 70s-early 80s for these ones

[@transporttechnologykent5829]

@@al66class59 Wow! I thought they stopped making these in the 70s! I wonder if the GP8s are the same age, like the ones in Grays oil refinery.

[@al66class59]

@@transporttechnologykent5829 again they vary but id say probably similar

[@TheTechnologymachinery]

sounds like a carter.

[@al66class59]

Anything sounds relatively like a Carter if it spins at 2850rpm with a 10+12 stator hole combination. I can assure you that this one however is made by Secomak.

[@perhaps3990]

You should do carnwath siren it is loud

[@al66class59]

Have you been before? The problem with it is the primary school; you can’t really go in term time or you’ll get someone complaining. The only day you can really do it safely is July, and I didn’t have enough cameras for that.

[@perhaps3990]

Will you do it when you have a chance but?

[@al66class59]

If we go next year there’s a chance I will, as well be in Scotland at around the same time. Long way off yet though. Then again there’s also the Lanark Police Station one to think about!

[@hmsirensandfirealarms]

@@perhaps3990 i have done Carnwath check it out

[@HuongTran-cr6hz]

2:04 siren start

[@dennisbrill5336]

I love all sirens, but the STH & STL 10s are my favorite! ☘️🤓

[@al66class59]

Ah, cool! I quite like those too

[@YamahaMusicsirenRse2-3s]

This is so good

[@EvilNeuro_IITPP]

The siren kinda looks like its doing the "Hi-Lo" tone

[@taffytop]

What is the point of not editing off the first 2 minutes of dead air ?

[@al66class59]

The point is that I can add information about the system, the siren signals, what siren is shown etc. Those who don’t want to read that can skip to the siren itself. If you watch Mrmattandmrchay’s videos, he does something similar before the siren sounds in his videos- albeit he voices them over. I only have this clip, so can’t make it as interesting as he does.

[@tomtrainspotter7231]

Cold War Siren am I correct? Awesome sound 👍

[@al66class59]

Cold War style alright. Should be able to put a date on the siren’s manufacture in February :)

[@Thunderbolt_7026]

It’s a jail siren but Cold War

[@al66class59]

@@Thunderbolt_7026 Clue's in the name Carstairs state *hospital*. Contrary to popular belief this isn't a prison. Unsure of date of manufacture but it would not have been used for air raids during the Cold War so probably isn't a Cold War siren either, even if it dates from that era.

[@Thunderbolt_7026]

@@al66class59 it was made for a jail siren but some people use it for other things like fires for example

[@al66class59]

Yes, sirens like this can be used for fires, but as I’ve said before this isn’t a prison or jail. It’s a hospital.

[@susansorrentino6130]

why does it sound so low pitched and louder

[@al66class59]

I don’t know for sure, but there’s multiple reasons why it might be slower/lower pitch, however I expect it’s to do with the power supply. As for being louder- well, it’s the same sound output as any other CS8 on the network.

[@progen91enjoyer]

That's a pretty old siren. It sounds like it's been through a lot of trouble since the last few tests, over here in Broadmoor our klaxton's run the hi-lo tone and yours run the attack tone. Sadly we only have about 8 or 7 sirens left, so your lucky Edit: it kinda sounds like a castle castings

[@al66class59]

This siren is roughly the same age as the CS8s on Broadmoor. It too uses a special, one off signal- this isn’t attack, as that would be more of a constant wailing- not sure what this signal is called. You’ll be disappointed to know there’s a maximum of three sirens left in situ at Broadmoor, and none of them work any more- the network was decommissioned in November.

[@progen91enjoyer]

@@al66class59 I know. Siren K got removed completely, but mrmattandmrchay got to see the shutters. And siren K is the one on the mall in Camberley

[@al66class59]

@@progen91enjoyer Yes, he saw the shutters of siren K, the car park siren, when it got removed. All sirens except for F, G and maybe M have been confirmed as removed (I'm guessing J has- nobody knows about that one)

[@al66class59]

This signal has never been used elsewhere as far as I’m aware so it probably wouldn’t have a proper title as such, but what do I know lol.

[@al66class59]

@Miguel Rodriguez fair enough. I've got no name for it and because I am not aware of any other networks to use this I tend to refer to it as the 'carstairs signal'. Rampton similarly uses a unique signal (45 on 15 off but varies based on how far the siren is from the hospital due to communication signal times) and that also has no official name.

[@tobytrainspotter]

Awesome video! That was interesting to hear. I have seen other videos of sirens from different countries, but this is the first one I have heard in the UK! Haha that bird at the start got scared by the movement from inside the siren. Is that a train I can hear in the background towards the end of the video around 07:10. Sounds like a Pendolino.

[@al66class59]

Thanks Toby! You always wonder whether any bird can be stupid enough to stand on the siren at 13:00 😂 I don’t know about the end- can’t remember how close the line was! I know at Ravenstruther we were very near (you could see trains every so often) but it may well be based on the fact this is in Carstairs relatively near the station.

[@tobytrainspotter]

Haha yeah 😂😂 Ah ok. I expect it is from the station then.

[@al66class59]

If I’m honest I spent more time finding somewhere to leave the camera than listening to the background noise- mainly because the other siren we went to looked a bit unreliable and likely to break so I wanted backup 😂 I’ll put the Tesco express up at some point-we saw it near Carstairs (just south of the station)

[@tobytrainspotter]

Oh right haha 😂

[@johnang700]

I miss CS8 Hope They Paint The CS8 New I Think Thats A Great Idea The grey colour is Old I think they need to paint it new right

[@al66class59]

For the hospital, as long as the siren works, the cosmetics don’t matter. Just look at the Ravenstruther siren for example!

[@johnang700]

Oh

[@dangerousnoodle3730]

2:04 is when it starts anyway great vid!

[@al66class59]

indeed, thanks

[@dangerousnoodle3730]

@@al66class59 np

[@JJP_SirenProductions06]

@@al66class59 I tried using Google earth and I can't find them :(

[@al66class59]

If you use street view and look in the right places they’re easy enough to find

[@annabelletabile4912]

Hey how to buy the cs8 sirens

[@obalarms]

They’re discontinued now

[@1000BT]

sounds like the motor is gonna go soon

[@al66class59]

could be on single phase, could be on a VFD, could just be dying, but it does the job.

[@ghousted865]

ur a tbolt 1000t u belong to usa

[@joelneiltrinidad6339]

Starts at 2:04

[@annabelletabile4912]

if i its new year i use your video to record the siren in my sound box and i have freinds my freind car is noise and my record its full 9999999 volume i can.t heard

[@ssrd276]

Very nice!

[@al66class59]

Thanks! (Sorry for late reply)

[@calum1741]

What are the point of these sirens??? Is it a warning device???

[@al66class59]

Yep, so if someone escapes Carstairs hospital (it’s a high security psychiatric meaning the patients are dangerous) then the public get some early warning that they need to find somewhere safe.

[@immortalgamingyt6182]

I'm scared even though I live in America

[@ghousted865]

When a prisoner escaped, a klaxon cs8/boomdoor siren will sound

[@VonnaWasser]

How many port ratio it is?

[@Eights_Coronel-864]

10/12 port

[@claudehermann9300]

Pourquoi un démarrage lent ?

[@al66class59]

Je ne sais pas pour sûr mais je pense que c’est sous-alimentée. Je crois que il reçoit 240v et pas le 415v que le moteur a besoin de.

[@Jeagles]

Nice! Are you going to put all the ones you filmed on yt?

[@al66class59]

Ravenstruther next week, as it’s a complex edit and will take time. Will have to see about others

[@joelothian378]

Sounds like a V8 engine slowing down

[@al66class59]

It does a bit! Or some old aircraft engine.

[@GlennHootVlog]

Scared birds fly in a moon for what

[@yeongsuma]

This thing is an absolute brute! Probably just about pips siren D as my favourite!

[@al66class59]

Thanks! I was disappointed to not hear a CS8 myself, since I missed broadmoor on numerous occasions, but I have got to say Ravenstruther was by far the best experience of my life ignoring trains. What a magnificent sound to hear that thing rattle itself to bits 😂 (I filmed it obviously but haven’t yet uploaded- hopefully will soon)

[@yeongsuma]

al66class59 unpopular opinion but I’d sooner do this one than Ravenstruther. CS8s just have more character!

[@al66class59]

Fair enough, then again Ravenstruther is one you don’t want to miss-ever!

[@Ewout761]

me: *watching this video* KZbin: control your music

[@al66class59]

oof XD

[@Geaccw-ps6xm]

Motor is probably about to die or about to give out...

[@al66class59]

Or its underpowered,

[@Geaccw-ps6xm]

@@al66class59 maybe. Cuz the windup is slow so maybe it is underpowered. But super fast shutters maybe they are not underpowered but overpowered

[@twmax4137]

3:06 british thunderbolt

[@serbianknights4988]

Between 1995 and 1998 we have every month in Yugoslavia sirene test for warnings from air strike. I wondering what will happen next WTF war sirene!

[@pizzaheister13]

i like this sound :D

[@immortalgamingyt6182]

2:04 I was startled just like the bird was, lol

[@al66class59]

I think everyone was 😂

[@johnang700]

It’s sound like Cold War and scare the bird

[@al66class59]

That’s likely because it’s got the same 10-12 port ratio as most other sirens here in Britain. Not just sirens but also any other loud sudden noises will scare birds :)

[@rarleyposting5546]

worlds slowest windup

[@al66class59]

Far slower than any other I’ve heard certainly!

[@laelipz736]

Hey you cook him up it's called roasting it's something when you roast people because of their look

[@sirenealertedu1ermercredid256]

Klaxon cs8

[@al66class59]

This is Secomak I’m pretty sure, but yes it’s the same design :)

[@sirenealertedu1ermercredid256]

@@al66class59 siren G

[@majoboto6544]

2:04 siren started and the bird are scared

[@BernardoAmaral-e4s]

ceara eas alarm

[@nigelbranthwaite8471]

Would this sirens be sound if the unthinkable was to happen,ww3.

[@al66class59]

Probably not. These sirens would definitely not provide the adequate warning that big cities would need, and it’s controlled by the NHS- so I doubt that it would.

[@Elliotgh2]

Secomak cs8 siren

[@GlennHootVlog]

Oh good is not replace

[@a.j.kocialski2679]

A call to arms for all men.

[@freek123]

Very slow startup

[@catsbyondrepair]

2:03 bird goes oh shit

[@Geaccw-ps6xm]

This thing has a very nice runup!

[@al66class59]

I agree!

[@deadfreightwest5956]

In my youth in the US, every Wednesday at noon (or was it 1pm?) the city's air raid sirens would do a test. Never had such a system for loony bins here. Reagan disbanded them, realizing the republican party needed more voters, lol. Not sure when they stopped the air raid siren tests. There was a siren in my neighborhood that would sound to call the volunteer firefighters to the station, too.

[@al66class59]

New Zealand is known for its fire sirens- there’s a couple here in the UK, and I heard of some in the states, but it’s cool that sirens like these can be used even when the larger networks are disbanded :)

[@DK-cy5mt]

The US still has high security hospitals

[@daisysantos8028]

bird rides on carstairs

[@yaman1776]

Big Ben: I'm So Loud. Klaxon CS8: Hold My Oil And Silence Your Bells While I Sound Old Chap.

[@ABRAM-HC]

Lucky the bird got off

[@nophi3015]

Help😳, the Morlocks come..........☠

[@ghousted865]

Alert-All Clear Attack-Wail Fire-Hi-Lo

[@al66class59]

Maybe in the states, but signals mean different things here and often depend on the network

[@otchimolega1584]

Бедный голубь

[@fredlohmann1448]

LOOKS LIKE A STERLING TO ME!

[@al66class59]

I can guarantee you it isn’t! I see the similarity though- twin rotor with tubular air intakes on either end.

[@ghousted865]

And it have no roof

[@yaman1776]

This Is The One That Failed

[@al66class59]

one failed? was unaware of that

[@yaman1776]

@al66class59 This Is A CS8 Like The Ones At Broadmoor And They Can Fail Because They're The Same Design

[@al66class59]

Yeah true, though I’d not heard of one on this network breaking before.

[@yaman1776]

The Siren Where I Live Is A Federal Signal 2001 SRNB

[@gabebrutal1874]

Proper

[@torilink4630]

That was my

[@ThatOneRailfanYT]

NOBODY CARESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@al66class59]

You clearly don’t, so why are you here 😂

[@VonnaWasser]

Doge seen better days when it was still 2010

[@ms.hudson5636]

Klaxon cs8