Carving Layout | Let's Build a Kibler Woodsrunner Flintlock Muzzleloader Kit | Part 3

This video details my stock clean-up process using sandpaper and traditional wood scrapers. As an amateur builder, I go over my problems and how I fix them.
Follow along as I build a Kibler Woodsrunner kit for my friend. I've not had a chance to build one of these and when a buddy asked if I'd build one for him, I jumped at the chance.
Jim Kibler has made a great tutorial series on the step-by-step process to build one of these kits, I'll be following along with those and then deviating with my own attempt at carving and finishing. We'll be adding some period-appropriate carving to this piece that fits not only historically, but functionally with my skill level.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:09 Disassembly for Sanding
00:23 My Pin hack for the Kibler Woodsrunner
1:14 Lighting Trick
2:05 Sanding
11:41 Screwdrivers I use on the Kibler Woodsrunner
12:01 More Sanding
14:36 Scraper Overview
17:36 Scraping
26:10 Final Scraped look
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[@williamkrevey1098]

French curve tools are especially helpful and are inexpensive. Cheers! Stoked your building this one!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kbowen2251]

Finally got a chance to watch this and seeing the struggle with the rear spiral...i was about to make the comment to grab some flexible french curves. While you're at it grab some eraser shields! You'll thank me later.

[@genetoler2207]

I have learned a little about how to draw it on the stock from just watching you 'I now feel as I could maybe do this using circles and triangles to help me .

[@jacobwilbert1018]

Good stuff Ethan, its hard when you are literally trying to learn somethin or do something for the first time ever while openning that up to the entire internets criticism. But in that mountain of nonsense are little peices of info that are gonna flip the lights on n help along the way. 👍💙🇺🇲

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Jacob, I learn a lot from the comments about how I'm doing things so wrong, haha! But seriously it's a win-win for me. I love it. Hope it helps some!

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading I didnt mean to imply you were doing anything wrong. I just mean someone may have an easier, better way, that may be helpful to you. What works some people may not work for everybody. There may be several different ways to get to your destination. I f you get to where you were going, did you really go the wronh way?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Couldn’t agree more Jacob! It’s about the journey

[@kevinwhite4101]

Wow I learned a lot in this episode. I learned to invest in erasers and a good dark and lite colored pencil. And most of all take my time to figure out what I want it to look like b4 I start to draw. Thank so much

[@lyonforge3077]

Good video Ethan, instead of the circle gauge try french curves as a guide, too sharp of a corner behind the cheek rest going into the large circle element of the scroll. That's what I see. God bless.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

My eye didnt like that either, you had the line from the cheek rest and then it broke sharp north. It wasnt fluid, my eye just kept getting stuck on that very spot

[@brokentoe570]

This is were I stop. My hand and eye do not always communicate well. My hat is off to you all. Great video.

[@wvcruffler123]

Looks really good. Its intimidating to think of trying to freehand art because...well I suck at that sort of thing. But your process gives me ideas on how I can stay closer. Appreciate the time it took to lay all that out

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you, I like to freehand, and did freehand the sketch on paper, but wanted to show how someone could use a couple tools on the stock. Glad it helped even a little bit!!

[@JamesPassmore-z7r]

Drawing is the basis of all art. I forget who said it.

[@D_Boone]

When I have enough money to order one of these some day, I'm getting the CNC carved one for sure. 😅

[@gerald5344]

As I watched this, I was struck by how the existence of the CNC-option demonstrates how much Kibler understands his potential market -- that is, it includes people like me!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Absolutely.

[@danielmatzke6800]

Holding onto the circle template like its law and then ditching it is exactly what i would do get frustrated with result and go oh well. Its so nerve wracking to just free hand on such an already beautiful long rifle. Im tossing up if i should do some carving on mine when it comes in but that would be my first kit from scratch and not one im cleaning up. Lol. Just watching you work is impressive the patience you put into just the scetching of the designs.

[@98Kentuckian]

I've never done any carving like this. I'd like to learn someday. Looks good ! can't wait to see how it comes out

[@mylife6453]

When you do layouts of curves consider the Golden mean 1.618: 1. This produces the best proportion of features as the human eye sees this ratio as the most beautiful.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Totally!

[@gerald5344]

I recently refinished a Military Heritage dog lock blunderbuss, and decided to try my hand with a simple brass inlay cut from flat stock. I ended up going with a forward-facing geometric "V" with the point at the Golden angle (~137.5º). Doesn't look half bad. The fun part, though, was explaining to my kids: "I always wanted an angle with a shotgun."

[@jkrause365]

Quite elegant.

[@calhosmer8989]

You gotta have lock panels. It helps carry the eye through that area. Just my two cents.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Maybe I can swing em

[@jasonwilliams7457]

If your printout is to scale you could just cut them out and trace the outline onto the stock but looks good

[@leonardzydowicz3480]

Back in the day the fancy carved gun never sold at rendezvous.it was curly maple half stocks 32and 50.We got all the blanks from dixie, not what you got.how you gonna learn without throwing out a bunch of screwed up stocks. You did enough kits time to move up kids Hawken only came in maple sold in white.

[@Strutingeagle]

Who the hell are you and what did you do with Ethan? This is an impressive video, and you are definitely kicking butt with your skill set. Those are such nice rifles and worthy of your effort.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks man, that means a lot. Always trying to learn

[@stephengent9974]

Just use your drawing and transfer paper. Make life easier not harder. Also use a harder pencil for layout like a HB, it is more precise

[@jeremiahmccutcheon3234]

Ohh yeah

[@n.b.4168]

Scrolls are never circles, they are and ever expanding radius of a ratio of 1 to 1.6. If you want to make even sides make a drawing, cut it in half cut the outline then trace the outline on either side of your established center line. Taking an art or mechanical art class basics would help also.

[@waynehamilton2350]

A french curve template works better.

[@charleswatson7154]

What oil finish are you going to use?

[@DocLaw172]

Well now why didn't you teach this old fossil this BEFORE I carved my Woodsrunner? Not that I did a bad job on it, but it would have been a lot easier to do with your method.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

LOL, I don't know that anyone should follow what I'm doing, but maybe it'll spark your brain to do better ;)

[@DocLaw172]

I figured out your problem with the circle template and why the curve did not look good to you. In model railroading, we have a term for curves which I cannot remember right now, but it involves laying out the curves with diminishing radius so that the models do not abruptly hit the curve. Wide to tighter radius curves. your circle template does not allow for that. The wide to tighter circle is what you had with the natural drawings as opposed to using the template.

[@DocLaw172]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading, nonsense. Trust me, I'm a lawyer. You've taught me a lot in your videos.