Why did the CAR WIZARD get this 'dead' 2006 Charger Daytona? And what's the crazy surprise he found?

[@markchip1]

Over the years of watching the Wizard's videos, I've noticed his magical skills progressively develop to even higher levels - he used to tug on a wheel quite hard to ascertain the states of bearings & bushes... But in more recent videos he merely seems to just touch a wheel before being able to judge the quality of components. Truly a magician of the highest calibre!!!

[@swampcabbage3239]

So is that your real last name or a second job? 😅

[@markchip1]

@@swampcabbage3239 - real.

[@vincezab1]

Mark Chippendale is likely English, a gentleman of the highest calibre. In which case his comment is not a compliment, but rather a piss-take.

[@markchip1]

@E59 - Oh, dear God!! Check out R/Whooosh, why doncha!!

[@markchip1]

@@vincezab1 - or just a humorous insight, perhaps?

[@mph5896]

I bought a 2014 Hemi Charger off Ebay last month. Had a bent pushrod and the valve cover was off. Dodge dealer diagnosed it as a bad engine and quoted the seller $10k for a long block. Bought it for $2500 with 120k. Pulled the heads off it, and found 2 bad lifters. Put New cam/lifters, 1 pushrod and an AFM solenoid in it. Car is back and running like a champ. I went through it and replaced everything that needed to be replaced. Have $4k into it total including purchase price. Fun car to drive.🤩

[@lovellmills7959]

luckyyy

[@sgtmuffinbadger6147]

Nice dude

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

Glad to see things are going well for you. Great example how hard work and a bit of charisma, honesty, and skill can take you a long way!

[@roblambert9519]

I’ll

[@troyminer7]

Be

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@Issan Cali Reject LOL, I have little to no charisma either - but fortunately found a niche - find a niche and you can do really well in life - at least until the niche disappears...

[@brandaneakright6082]

I personally love the 2006-2010 dodge chargers , I’ve had 2 of them and I miss my last one. The intake manifold and the air intake is the same as the r/t, the difference between them are the tuning in the computer and the suspension. They’re great cars if they’re taken care of, but it is getting hard to find nice ones out there anymore.

[@jjlegend3922]

? So you like automatic sedans with less than 300ish Hp. Sounds like a Camry would suit you very well hun.

[@paintballpilot4139]

@@jjlegend3922 the rt makes well over 300 hp?

[@Dozav7]

@@paintballpilot4139 trolls gonna troll.

[@crazyfrank3866]

@@paintballpilot4139 also a camry doesn’t sound like this😂

[@paintballpilot4139]

@@crazyfrank3866 lol true

[@thomasfetters7877]

Great car ! I have a 2007 charger Daytona R/T my number is 358 out of 1500 that they made.Mine is a sub-lime color. I have over 300,000 miles on it same starter and hoses and it still runs great. I go to all the car showes here in Tennessee and Florida and I have over 40 trophies with a car show this weekend. Thanks for showing yours.

[@NVRAMboi]

You're one heck of an owner if all that is true. Pretty remarkable. Congrats!

[@ty1on106]

Idk what it is about daytonsa but all the ones ive seen forsale are all high miles

[@beitie]

That's awesome! I'm #3874 of the 2006 Top Banana's. Owned since new. Only 45,000 miles on mine.

[@rustyshackleford5157]

Charger owners are either the former or future Corvette owners apparently. 1st of 2 built on the 31st of April built in this color, with these floor mats and a glossy orange peel paint only on the gas tank lid.

[@gregblack4581]

They are great cars for us older guys who say ‘they don’t make them like that anymore’. And by the way thank god they don’t make them like that anymore . I remember 20 k on tires . My 65 gto felt like it would scrape the door handles when going fast in a turn . Just sold it a couple years ago but yes I wish I would of kept it . I had a 70 400 block -670 heads I think was the numbers . Headers , crane cam . Ran 13.2 in the quarter. My 2018 accord dead stock except for a tune runs 13.8 and gets 33 mpg .

[@Vynncent]

These Daytonas are awesome cars. A few mods like a different cam shaft and exhaust can really bring out even more performance. Fun fact, if you ever get a check engine light and codes come up, do the "key dance" and the codes will come up on the EVIC where the mileage normally appears; to do it switch it to on, acc, on, acc, on; it needs to be done fairly quickly though. There's other goodies in the EVIC if you hold the inner two down buttons (music note and the navigation one) on the steering wheel for five seconds; there's a digital speedometer, oil pressure, digital tachometer, and more! I'm surprised to see one of these without the REC navigation headunit, especially since I've grew up seeing them with it all the time. Something else to mention is that the DC jack in the center console is always powered, so you may want to relocate phone chargers and such to the DC jack in the pop-out ashtray (that one is switched). Another fun fact, the cubby next to the shifter is a "phone holder"

[@beitie]

I own #3874 with the same RAK radio and other option packages. Love my car.

[@jakejonesy9275]

🤣

[@peterkovacs8654]

3k is a deal! Nicely done! And you’ll have her right as rain in no time!

[@craigmorgan4676]

He sure will,just hope he can spin it for a profit!🤨🤔🤔🤨💪👍

[@robertbeirne9813]

@@craigmorgan4676 I think Wizard wants to hold on to it, as a future classic.

[@one_flew_over_the_cuckoos_nest]

@@robertbeirne9813 Yup.

[@megachonk9440]

"When you drive this car you're driving freedom down the road, lemme tell ya. 'Murica!" I always love this, because the Charger (along with the Challenger and 300) has only ever been manufactured in Canada exclusively, and the Hemi V8 engines are manufactured in Mexico.

[@Lexolo999]

I was about to post the same thing. Also, the platform is, from my understanding, half a 90’s E-Class and half a 90’s S-Class.

[@CarWizard]

Just being sarcastic. Lol

[@rwinstanley8668]

Owned by; Daimler, Fiat and Stellantis … ‘merica

[@robertball3578]

Sad, my 69 Dodge Super Bee was built in MICHIGAN. Real American cars. My current Chev pickup is made in Canada.

[@11sfr]

Well, Canada and Mexico are both free countries, too, and Canada and the United States were both once the northern and southern halves of what was British North America, before a disagreement resulting in it being partitioned in two

[@hotpuppy1]

Good pick. Remember that back in the 70's, Chargers, Cudas, Challengers (as well as any midsize GM with a big V 8 were just used cars that high school kids bought and tore up. Now they are worth BIG money just because there aren't many good ones left. This one will be like that. Do the cosmetics while parts can still be had. The door dent can be fixed via paintless dent repair. The plastic fascia breaks can be repaired. Clean it all up top to bottom. It won't be worth a huge amount, at least not for a few more years, but it IS worth keeping.

[@davuvnik]

I've got a 2009 RT and It's in pretty good shape, it had been taken cared of very well since it left the dealership, I'm the second owner and I may be selling it for 7000 or even 8000 in here in Mexico because it's in good shape. Right now It's being worked on, but unfortunately some spare parts are kind of hard to find here, and bringing them from the US can prove to be a bit costly sometimes, that is usually the last resource. However, I don't mind paying for the repairments, which doesn't mean I can try to lower the costs by any means necessary, because overall, it is still cheaper to maintain when you realize the longevity and fun that it brings to the table. You may pay, for example, 1000 or 2000 on repairs in case many things need fixing, or just preventive maintenance, but the car will ride smoothly for almost a decade. Having owned it for 5 years, I did nothing but the regular service and drove it in Mexico City, a quite harsh city for any car to stay in good shape due to the crazy bumps and uneven potholed streets. Unfortunately, I ended up flying (Dukes of Hazzard style) twice due to some bumps on the road that were basically camouflaged walls in the pavement positioned right at the end of a downhill street as in here some bumps are not signaled properly, and their dimensions are not standardized nor properly placed. In spite of that, The charger's been working fine for 5 years. In reality, I actually didn't have enough money back then to give it a more in-depth TLC. However, I always made sure the engine has been properly taken care for, but right now I am happily paying for the maintenance because I believe that the repair for 5 years of "a bit of" heavy use is well worth it, plus It was my first ride and I was learning all the tricks of the road. Now, I think that the chances for me to purposefully damage it or mistreat it are quite lower than at first, not that I wasn't taking care of it, I was, but my lack of expertise behind the wheel was still a factor, yet, I expect it to last for a long time with the proper care. My reason for wanting to sell it is just that I can see how it's getting harder to get spare parts, I am willing to pay don't get me wrong, but my fear is for the parts to end up unavailable for good, specially in here, and I am not in the business of hunting for spare parts, you can still get them. Nevertheless, being the first generation or chargers, I fear I may have to leave a perfectly good car to rust in a garage because one damn part may be out of stock. Note: If any of you know any good Mopar or Chrysler site that has global shipping, I'd greatly appreciate it

[@SUPERBOBESPONJA1000]

Heh another fellow mexican city, is nice to see those charger still good even with our pothole per 5 meter, currently trying to restore my grandfathers Valiant Volare 1979 with slant six 225

[@davuvnik]

@@SUPERBOBESPONJA1000 I know!, our moon-like roads aren't really keen on chargers or any car actually. That's a pretty nice ride you got there! hopefully you'll be riding it sooner rather than later!

[@draidt]

This car was from the Mercedes Benz ownership period and I bet it was made in Canada when quality mattered. I myself own a 2006 Chrysler 300 Canadian built and have had excellent service out of it. After Fiat took over it was a downhill slide.

[@Jonathan11225]

every Magnum,Charger,Challenger and 300 have been and still built in Brampton,Ontario,Canada along with the LH cars before them

[@Lucas-gu7sj]

they are still the exact same cars that they were 15 years ago

[@manfail7469]

bold saying that mercedes did anything except fuck over chrysler and then bail

[@charlesmoore2485]

@@manfail7469 yeah their lineup before 1998 was amazing right ?

[@patrickmartin3322]

The Mercedes era was actually a low point for Mopar quality in every vehicle but the LX cars

[@RichieRouge206]

I really like this, it’s a rare gem - a light resto: a good polish and fix the broken things is all it needs! So glad it’s fallen into the hands of the Wizard - it will live on! Awesome video

[@zachcorey1976]

Give a man a garage, and he will fill it. Love the videos and banter with mr. and mrs.wizard!

[@DavidVlogz]

Yes this 👍

[@gsilva220]

Hell, I don't even have a garage and already got 3 cars...

[@DavidVlogz]

@@gsilva220 same here lol

[@richardgalindo1364]

If you had to get a Daytona with mods, this is the one to get. Those goofballs removed the cats and the mufflers but left the resonator. After living the Dukes of Hazzard dream, they thought the engine was roached and sold it. Looks like the Wizard scored a win!

[@JW-ke9ed]

Actually, they left the stock suitcase muffler in the middle and deleted the resonators near the exhaust tips.

[@w.e.s.]

No dude those r the mufflers that "suitcase" ​ thing is the resonator@@JW-ke9ed

[@JW-ke9ed]

@@w.e.s. Wrong. Look up "resonator delete" on the LX cars. Blastin Bob's has been selling a resonator delete kit since these cars came out. I've owned my 2006 Magnum RT AWD since new and should know a little bit about these cars.

[@robertedwards6438]

I've tore down a few of those 5.7 hemi's lately and I like how they are set up. not too many sensors and simple wiring also. I may have to get me one as well!

[@NVRAMboi]

Not a bad way to spend your extra time since you have the talent.

[@derrickjohnson5219]

The older ones are because their cast iron blocks my 5.7 is a '14 Rt with 375 hp but an aluminum block and the dreaded vvt.

[@hellkitty1014]

These aren't bad. The 05-08s, I'd just replace the valve springs with those from the 6.1, which are of a different material but work on 5.7s. And of course, disable MDS.

[@derrickjohnson5219]

cylinder deactivation

[@jeffreybowd1249]

a lovely car like that would be such a great thing to own, personally I would fix it up while driving it around and get a bunch of fun. but that's just me.

[@methanial73]

Those engines are easily good for 400K miles as long as it's taken care of. Deboss garage did a tear down of the 5.7 or 6.2 with 350k and it was surprisingly in good shape. The bearings were like new! Some other channel has a pick up with really high miles with the 5.7. I wouldn't mind having a high miles 5.7/6.2 if it was taken care of.

[@gregkrueger331]

The biggest issue with these engines is dropping valve seats.

[@methanial73]

@@gregkrueger331 true, but it's fairly rare.

[@baileyhatfield4273]

@@methanial73 Basically just a rare rare oops issue, its overheating. Rather overheating and then cooling down, different metals used, pop there it goes. That's why rad hoses and a thermostat was done very soon after i bought my car.

[@rsvp-realscalevehiclesproj6965]

Love Mrs Wizard's "flight attendant" voice!! 👍🙂👍 You did well with this one for sure! Look around the used car marketplace, high mileage is far more common than it used to be. Our 2003 Honda Pilot has 258,000 and is going strong.

[@stingrayl82]

My mother had an '09 Charger R/T and I had a '14 R/T. Neither were perfect quality-wise but they weren't nightmares either and they were pretty fun to drive around.

[@danf4616]

What really is amazing is that there actually is a (newer) Dodge more than 10 years old and 200K miles that still runs! Rare! 😁

[@charlesjohnson756]

You are right though.

[@3daystodie]

They were built like junk and are junk full of plastic trash can material and wear out twice as fast the old ones still can be found and are being found quite a few are on KZbin but it takes longer than looking 5 minutes away at a local auction and more than 6 grand I see one every summer drive around its a 69 but it’s a plain Jane navy blue would make a good resto mod add the exhaust RT badges and valances and its in a state no one would look because everyone thinks everything is rusty here this car is not rusty would look great hell it looks good the way it does now better than that sick reject from a lemon factory and it’s not the same dodge that produced the 69 it was the real one not the newer bought out version

[@Karmy.]

My dad drives an '09 GC Close to 230K on it and despite the build quality being kinda crap it still drives almost like new

[@turbo1997hsm]

You must live under a rock. Almost every used Dodge on fb marketplace and craigslist has over 200k miles

[@jacob1423]

@@turbo1997hsm fr was gonna comment this, just ppl spewing none sense

[@Xandil]

"When you drive this car, you're driving Freedom." What a great line, laughed out loud when I heard that. One of the Big 3 marketing teams should pick that up.

[@reddog3544]

Great find! Desantis is coming out with a twin turbo inline 6. They can keep it. I have an 18 Charger R/T that has gotten 33 mpg on highway on cruise at 70 mph. That new 6 w/turbos is not likely to do that. Purchased mine in 2018 w/ a little less than 5000 miles for $28000.00. Have been offered $31000.00 after 4 years. Has 28000 miles in it. If I don't lean on it in town it will get almost 17 mpg. Myself being 79 years; love to hit the on ramp floored. Had another Geezer pal along and he said it relieved his constipation. Love the car. I believe it is very under rated. City police have them w/the 3.6. They say they are the 1st cars they have had w/ least trouble. Have fun Mr. Car Wizard. Enjoy your content a lot.

[@pckldplmfshcm]

Is he, now? I didn't know that dumb cuck had anything to do with automotive.

[@houseofno]

It's called Stellantis. Desantis is that crazy nut Florida governor whose claim to fame is going after Disney.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

@@houseofno Oh the irony.....and the alloy....

[@clardy01]

@@houseofno desantis is the nut?! 😆 ok groomer

[@planetwisconsin9901]

@@clardy01 No doubt Desantis is a hero!

[@Ravaniscool]

I actually like the black grill, it offsets the yellow! Congrats, nice car!

[@RealGyoukai]

I got me the same car Car Wizard for $3,000 and Clean Title and I got me a CBD vaporizer 😂206,000 miles and I had to replace a head from the infamous dropped valve and the front end is completely rebuilt and it’s getting a new bumper & head lights! I don’t know what I’m gonna do next but it’s definitely getting a hellcat motor in the near future! Then if it stops working and the block is clean I got a entire Hemi block to play with!

[@boomerd513]

I had a 2007 plum crazy Daytona #1370/1400. It was amazing! Lasted 240,000 miles on the stock hemi. Put a new hemi in it and eventually it got hit by a person and totaled it. I wish I still had it, such a cool car!

[@SmokeyBear464]

You’re the mechanic everyone dreams of! Love the channel and congratulations on the success!

[@Vekurus]

Right?! wished I lived so much closer, LOL!

[@davebarnessr.5805]

My wife drove the Gen one as you like to refer to it as ( 06 charger R/T ) for about 12?yrs. until I bought her a brand new Kia Telluride. However she rejected the idea of selling this car, so I e kept it and occasionally drive it. The car has never been wrecked and adult driven with 118000 miles on the untouched motor except for frequent oil change intervals. The only problem we ever had was a leaking water pump that was caught before the car ever got low on coolant a few yrs ago, so I went ahead and overhauled the entire cooling system, hoses, thermostat and also a new surpintine belt ( no better time to change one) I think I’m ready for new tie rods and struts. While the car has never been beat on , these roads now will wear out a tank, lol , great Vlog!

[@LOBrien_]

Did this car originate from Kansas? 250k and it's not crusty underneath at all, what a steal!

[@christopherlaflam6383]

I factory ordered a 2010 RT AWD. Best car I ever had. Kept it 10 years. Not a single issue in that time. Got top dollar at trade in (Caddy XTS Vsport) because it was tight as a drum and flawless inside and out. Love these things.

[@99Vood99]

Really cool car Wizard, thanks for keeping it out of the scrapyard. Fix up the missing/broken bits and you have a nice cruiser.

[@JW-ke9ed]

Great score, Wizard. Those seats are really nice and on par with the SRT8 seats. These cars are built on a modified Mercedes E class platform and the biggest concern with high mileage 2005-07 hemis are the valve seat drop issue. With the new heads, that motor should be good to go for another 250,000 miles.

[@RDEnduro]

I knew it wasn't a customers car when you peeled out into the shop. Because your the type of guy that respects your customers cars.

[@paul9874]

The car looks good and for $3K you don't have much into it. I would get together with Hoovie's detail shop and see what they can do on some spruce up on the doors and that engine compartment needs a good detail.

[@curtishardman8661]

You are getting quite a collection of mid 2000’s limited edition muscle “cars” with the Chevy Silverado ss and now this Daytona!

[@MTLbigJ]

Man....looking at this thing brings me back to when I was 18 and driving around in my dad's old Dodge Magnum. There is just something about these cars that have such a road presence. These cars were very powerful for the money back in the day. I'd kill to have an SRT8 in this generation

[@baileyhatfield4273]

My only problem is that with the 420 plus hp of the SRT8s in this gen, you're gonna just gonna grenade the transmission lol

[@MTLbigJ]

@@baileyhatfield4273 facts! They are literally ticking time bombs. Its such a shame these future classics are plagued with trans problems

[@chrishernandez2490]

Man, this is one of my main goals in life. To have the financial stability to just buy a cool car on a whim because its a good deal! Awesome find car wizard!

[@vw5056]

I think he re-sells the cars. No way anybody would buy a car every two months.

[@chrishernandez2490]

@@vw5056 He does, he's stated before that he gets bored quick. I'm different though, I buy cars with the intention of keeping them for a long time.

[@funnypranker34]

My friend bought an 07 rt with 150,000 miles. I agree they are all destroyed when sold. He paid 4500 for the car with a bad ball joint, lower control arm and lateral arm, bald tires, interior falling apart, and straight piped with no mufflers. Once it’s fixed it’s been a great car. He Still need to do the power steering pump, it’s shot

[@kallanstedje5133]

Get all the parts for it you can now while you can! That car will definitely become more collectable and valuable if you keep it in roadworthy condition. You'll probably be able to sell it at a profit someday no matter how much money you spend on it!

[@Dozav7]

He’s got more than enough projects and not sure any collector is going to bother with a 250,000 mile hard-driven example for top dollar. Wizards plan to make cheap repairs and just drive it is sound.

[@reviewaccount469]

Mrs Wiz is right, WOW that is a lot of miles for a Dodge product! Mr Wiz is also right, WOW $3k is cheap for any kind of running car these days, even if it does have 250k on it. I would not be surprised if the mpg and cost of gas was the contributing factor for the seller to let it go at that price.

[@chassegallerie2910]

Well, to call this a REAL Daytona, you need to put on a big spoiler like the one on Hoovie's Superbird and find a custom pointy front bumper. Then it'll be a REAL Daytona! lol Also, Hoovie's a really bad influence on you, you're slowly getting a fleet of cars that can rival his! lol It's actually a cool car. I wouldn't be surprised tho, that except for the removed cats, the rest of the exhaust system is the one that was on it from factory (or at least they were replaced by factory ones when needed).

[@closewatcher8586]

I bought my 2006 Top Banana Charger brand new and still own and drive it. Garaged day and night since new with only 74k miles. It is in almost showroom condition. And I love it.

[@mc97z34]

We have 3 Chargers of this Gen in the family, I have a 2007 Sublime Daytona, moms got a 2009 AWD R/T and dads got a 2010 low mile retired police car Hemi Pursuit. The Daytona's share some suspension, brake, and cooling components with the police package cars and a freer flowing exhaust for like 5 more hp than a standard R/T

[@AustinDashes]

I'm shocked he bought a charger. They're actually really good! I had a 2013 charger police package with the hemi and 186k miles. Great running car. They last a long time. $3k is a nice deal on that. It looks clean.

[@YoungAmzn]

I have a 2012 police package for 2 yrs bout to be, got it at 95k miles for 5K now it’s at 110k miles.

[@AustinDashes]

@@YoungAmzn it's a baby still! Just breaking it in. Great price. I like that body style the best. The gen 2 from 2011-2014.

[@Ryan57Garr]

Dang I remember when I was in high school and visited a dodge dealership. There was a brand new yellow 2006 Charger Daytona identical to that one on the showroom floor. It was my aspirational car for a bit. At the time it was one of the coolest sedans! Time flies

[@beitie]

I hear ya there. In 2007 I was 23 years old, one month into a new job, and bought #3874 of these Top Banana's. Still own it today. Love my car.

[@vincentenk4449]

I've got an '06 300 C, which is basically a Charger R/T in a tuxedo & I LOVE it! I'm the 2nd owner & it's in amazing shape! I was in awe of the tech & luxury features it has for the 1st week. I did have the "suitcase" muffler & resonators removed & glass packs put on, but it's not too rowdy. Performance is more than adequate for me.

[@limbogt747]

How reliable are they?

[@vincentenk4449]

@@limbogt747 with the exception of what I've heard about the valve seats & MDS lifters, very, but DO NOT neglect oil changes! I do mine EVERY 3000 miles with Valvoline High Mileage & a Napa/Wix Platinum Filter & every other service add Motorkote. Do that with all my vehicles.

[@Celician83]

Just an FYI, the vinyl, spoiler, and grille are not supposed to be glossy, they are Matte from the factory, but most people when they got it oiled them up to a glossy look, usually if they waxed the car and got some on it, oiling it up was the only way to get rid of the white from the wax. I actually detailed these cars straight off the truck back in 2006, working at the local Dodge dealership. There were 3 special colors for 2006: Top Banana, Hemi Orange, and Plum Crazy Purple.

[@Celician83]

The top Banana cars came out second, and a lot of people came back and traded them back in to get the plum crazy Purple model. For some reason, the dealership I worked at got like 20 of these Top Banana model chargers, and 10 of the Plum Crazy Purple. We were actually trading cars with other Dodge dealerships to get more of them! The Marines from the local Marine Corps base couldn't get enough of them!

[@Sappy6517]

Don't forget Torred I have an 06 Torred Daytona

[@Celician83]

@@Sappy6517 maybe it was that instead of the hemi Orange. I remember the Torred now

[@Sappy6517]

@@Celician83 if I'm not mistaken I think the Hemi orange was 2007 color not 100% sure on that though I think torred is the rarest color for 2006 only 2,000 were made mine is number 977

[@Celician83]

@@Sappy6517 it was sooo difficult for me to believe how rare the special color Daytona Chargers were because there was literally an entire section of the dealership with nothing but those Chargers on the lot. Was actually funny that one of the Plum Crazy's actually escaped the craze and was on the lot from 2006 all the way til mid 2008, just sitting there. I imagine when they sold it they replaced the tires and battery cause it sat there so long untouched

[@davyrando1203]

6:35 Hey just a quick thing to note - the 5.7L Hemi was updated in 2009, and afterwards it was rated at 370hp. I have a black 2010 R/T Charger and I absolutely adore it.

[@streetpilot775]

Great video! I’ve got a 2010 Charger that I bought brand new off the lot, still have it. They ride and handle great, mostly due to the fact that they are all Mercedes underpinnings. I believe the front suspension is from a C class and the rear an E class, although I may have that backwards. The only downfall is they go out of alignment somewhat easily. You’ll know when the ass end starts dancing around at 80 mph. When my girl starts “twerking”, that’s when I know it’s time to get her to an alignment rack.

[@Leon-uj7pc]

That was a good price on that car. I agree with your mind set about not getting too deep with the cosmetic repairs and dumping a ton of money on a high mile car. I would suggest rather then replacing the missing belt moldings on the doors, you just remove the two that are left and maybe massage the drivers door to get the worst of the dent out. I think without the belt moldings, the car has a more cleaner look to it. In fact some versions of the 2006-2010 Charger don't have the belt moldings at all.

[@mikethatguy27]

This Charger has got TONS of potential! Set of SRT wheels would look great.👌

[@boilerhousegarage]

I was first like, "250,000miles! WIZARD!!" but you've convinced me this is actually a good investment. Just an idea, but how about taking off all the door mouldings and the small Hemi badge and instead have a long, black, vinyl stripe with "Hemi" instead, to match the curved one on the rear quarter? Also have the wheels painted black too, then it'll be a full-on black and yellow "Bumblebee" look!

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

That would destroy the originality that the Wizard aims for.....

[@boilerhousegarage]

@@JohnSmith-yv6eq Not really. Two door strips are already missing and vinyl stripes can be removed easier than fitting. Painting wheels black to even up the look of the car can also be reversed when/if "originality" ever matters to this apollo-mileage car.

[@WN_Byers]

Yes, really. 🤣 Now thank John Smith for your free education

[@boilerhousegarage]

You heard it here. Some vinyl decals would "destroy originality," apparently.

[@jmabs5096]

There's some ticking time bomb in that thing, but considering its to beat up to hell and back means the previous owner was pretty conservative and look like it's worth 3k all day long. This is something like wizard can afford when it does blow up, but not the average "vape bro" can afford

[@beitie]

I'm the original owner of #3874, and still own it today. My car only has 45,000 miles on it, and is immaculate. I have the exact same option package as you have with the same radio, heated seats and dual zone climate control. I love my car and care for it as best as I can. Tie rods are the #1 most common issue with these cars. I had to have mine replaced at around 25,000 miles, and I feel that the alignment has never been fully correct since. Over the last few months I've even been thinking about contacting you, and setting up an appointment sometime this summer, if you would be willing to look at the tie rods on mine, and perform an alignment. Could be a pretty good opportunity to see a very good condition example.

[@karltork6040]

Wizard doesn't have an alignment rack.

[@beitie]

@@karltork6040 :(

[@AJGreen-cn8kk]

So when did the Wizard turn into Hoovie? I'll really freak if Tyler starts turning wrenchs!

[@Wizeguy74]

Let's hope not. Thats a skill that he doesn't have.

[@chassegallerie2910]

From what I understand, before meeting the Wizard, Hoovie did fix certains of his cars. So, I think he can do it, but he rather not do if he has to.

[@samholdsworth420]

That yuppie can't turn a wrench get the hell out of here

[@Vhicken]

@@chassegallerie2910 Yes, he's stated before that he knows quite a bit about his old mercedes' (not sure which one). Also, when he swapped his porsche for the first time, he did help Wizard somewhat. It's just a lot easier to have Wizard fix his cars for him, and he can come across as an idiot on camera.

[@gnomiefirst9201]

That will never happen. Hoovie's losses have taught the Wizard what to stay away from.

[@one_flew_over_the_cuckoos_nest]

The Dodge Charger was reintroduced for 2006 with a limited production Dodge Charger Daytona package that included a sportier interior, classic high impact exterior colors, a rear spoiler, a front chin spoiler, a blacked out grille surround, rear quarter panel striping reading "DAYTONA" on either side, a blackout vinyl between the taillights on the decklid, and a black vinyl on the hood with the word "HEMI" cut out twice. Heritage R/T badges replaced the Stock R/T's chrome badges. A performance suspension with load-leveling rear shocks was also standard, as well as unique wheels. 2006 wheels were the stock R/T 18" wheels with charcoal grey painted pockets, and lower profile wider tires. 2007 to 2009 wheels are 20" chrome clad wheels. In 2008, the rear quarter panel stripes were removed, and replaced with a strobe stripe on the lower portions of the doors that reads "DAYTONA" towards the front of the stripe. The hood decal was also modified. The 2006-2008 Daytona gains 10 hp (7 kW) over the standard Charger R/T via a freer flowing exhaust system featuring a single pass center muffler, and a larger diameter stock air cleaner giving it 350 hp. The car also had unique engine management software that removed the stock R/T speed limiter. The 2009 features the new Variable Camshaft Timing HEMI, producing 368 hp (274 kW). These are the First Daytona's to wear a badge listing the number it was produced out of total production numbers. Color Year Units Go ManGo! 2006 4000 (US), 200 (CDN) Top Banana 4000 (US), 291 (CDN) TorRed 2000 (US), 200 (CDN) Sublime 2007 1500 (US), 150 (CDN) Plum Crazy 1400 (US), 120 (CDN) Hemi Orange 2008 1650 (US), 100 (CDN) Stone White 2009 400 (US), 75 (CDN), 12 unnumbered (CDN) Total 2nd gen. Daytona's 2006-2009 : 16.098

[@garyruark9506]

Nice. I had a 2007 Charger R/T with the Road and Track package. It was a dependable fun car with the small hemi like you have. Something happens to Dodge's of this vintage where the converters clog around 125k and the engines blow up. I know 3 people that happened to.

[@sgtmuffinbadger6147]

How did that happen? I have an 07

[@christiancooper9420]

06 R/T 345hp 390tq R/T road and track edition 350hp 390tq R/T limited edition models Daytona 350hp 390tq There were no differences in parts it was different tuning from OE only part that was different was the road and track editions had bucket seats along with the special editions. Wheels had black accents on inner spokes Standard R/T was all aluminum color. Front chin spoiler on special edition models Optional rear spoiler.

[@wickedmuffin76]

Instead of replacing the missing side moldings I would remove the ones on the rear doors, give it a cleaner look.

[@lovellmills7959]

did the same on my Trailblazer.

[@stephenreed3381]

That's exactly what I was thinking. I used to like the side moldings, but now I favor the cleaner look without them.

[@danbourg76]

Great score Wizzard! It's so true that most of these cars are completely clapped out and gone. This one is saveable for sure, I think it looks cleaner without the side moulding. I also think an interior mounted fog machine would be awesome to give it the vape cloud effect every time you step out of the car...

[@WimlyDoon]

Wizard, I had a 2005 Dodge Magnum rt, had the timing chain snap on me at 100k! That's apparently an issue all the way to I believe 2011 on the hemi's. Keep an eye out, though if you have new cylinder heads.... It may've happened already, I always let these warm up for 5 mins in the winter

[@jeffduncan9140]

The timing chain, at least on the '12 + 5.7, looks about like a bicycle chain.

[@baileyhatfield4273]

Oh...yeah i hit rev limiter in the winter and just absolutely thrash my 06 Daytona....hmm.

[@BlooMule]

Between Jared and the Wizard, I'm glad I decided to hang on to my 09 R/T. Upgraded to a nav radio with backup camera, and it has everything I need now.

[@Madkalibyr]

Idk why I love these videos so much. I’ve never worked on a cars guts,but I love everything else about them lol I’ve only ever installed speakers, but Anyhoo, good to see the wizard and mrs wizard doing well

[@GSTocci]

I had a 5.7L Magnum for 10 years and loved it. Mechinically it was pretty excellent, though it had some electrical gremlins in it and the voltage was allover the place, especially in hot weather. No one was ever able to properly diagnose the issue.

[@kenpringle6568]

I occasionally hear the name, "Junior Mint" being used at times in some of your videos. He appears to be a giant!! 🤯😳😱 Wow!

[@NVRAMboi]

"Tiny" was already taken. :o)

[@joefurrer5428]

March of 2022 I just bought a 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8 6.1 Hemi 425 horsepower and 420 lb of torque so much fun with 8400 MI it was a garage Queen Never Seen Rain until I bought it and it's my everyday driver fully loaded runs like a brand new car everything on it was pristine but these cars need to be driven and not stored loved your video will be looking for more content.👍

[@LamontBoucherville]

Congratulations. I bought a 07 SRT8 charger too in February. Classic cars indeed

[@neilmurphy845]

How could someone think the engine is roached It sounds sweet as nut to me

[@judgegixxer]

I always thought this body style looked better than the current one. This one has an almost a 50's style C pillar, more aggressive front facia and overall more distintive look. The current version is more generic and boring. Good score Wizard.

[@JeepJL]

Your car that screams "America" when you drive it was built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada. :)

[@11sfr]

Which is still *North* America

[@JeepJL]

@@11sfr guess that’s true. Seeing as the HEMI engine is from Mexico. So I guess the U.S. is lucky to have such capable neighbours.

[@opera93]

Thanks, interestingly, with all my CANADIAN FRIENDS & siblings, postmpandemic:::kind of back to “”COUNTRY OF NORTH AMERICA..””We live in HELENA VALLEY, MT & , some work in CHESTER, SHELBY MT,& Hopefully, to CANADA, grateful for opening Border to travels….!,etc.

[@RBrown803]

Nice find. I stil have my 06 R/T. Bought the car new. Just crossed 315K miles on today's fill up. I also got a really solid score a couple weeks ago. Bought an 06 Durango 5.7 AWD for 2.5K. All that needed to be done was new tires, MDS sensor, water pump, radiator and associated gaskets.

[@timothyballinger6280]

Wow! I remember seeing them same cars on the show room floor! I fell in love with it but there was no way I could afford it until now! I really want one!

[@lovellmills7959]

A Go Mango Daytona One just sold at my local auction here in Cali for 2k!

[@henchicken1]

I am an original owner of an 06 go mango Daytona with 140,000 on the clock. And it is still pretty cherry! So there are some nice ones still out there... The car itself has been very reliable over the years. When I first bought it the gas tank had a recall which caused the car to stall when you topped off the tank. That was a pisser! The only other thing to fail wad the radiator recently went bust. That's it though a very decent and fairly easy to work on car!

[@plumcrazyswede]

I just love the "first gen" Daytonas. Looks so good. My Plum Crazy has only done 60000 miles. Too bad that it's missing the original 20" wheels. I've upgraded mine with the SRT8 20" ALCOA wheels.

[@kc0lif]

wow you had a 1970 daytona cool.

[@bruiser0159]

I was about to Say… 1st Gen was in 1970..🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@plumcrazyswede]

Hence the " "

[@lovellmills7959]

that's awesome that you imported the rarest color too Sweden!!

[@bigred5.773]

Congrats on the purchase it really was a steal. I have a 09 Chrysler 300c 5.7 vvt. Its such a badass cruiser with a bad ass rumble. Had an 08 droped valve seat and was such a horrible feeling . Definitely like the 09 hemi more. Has way more top end than the 05-08 hemis

[@DavidVlogz]

I have a 06 that turns on but sounds like lifters are bad or I hope it ain’t Rod knock

[@Celician83]

Common thing people would do to these things is park them backwards up a hill, fill the exhaust with water on a freezing cold day. Let the water freeze in the exhaust then crack them up and floor it. That busted up the baffles and shot the stuffing out the tailpipe. Probably why yours is so loud with the baffles still installed.

[@kimosabbe50]

Seriously? 😅 That's one of the craziest car mods(?) I've heard in quite awhile.

[@Celician83]

@@kimosabbe50 it works, makes the car WAY louder

[@mmmadog]

I do not mind somewhat loud cars but you should not be able to hear a car from 3 blocks away or the loud back firing.

[@StevenAndrews]

I bought a G8 last year in similar a situation. Struts were all roached and the prop shaft center bearing was destroyed. Other than that, it was in great shape. zero rust anywhere for 4k. put a little coin in to it and it's perfect.

[@TheNismo777]

Love the daytona! if you add a blower into the car, you would love it even more and thats a better profit in the end. I see these and newers ones running low numbers at yellow belly dragstrip few times a week. Alot of fun factor in these cars

[@JGL98]

Are u from dallas? Yellow belly is always a fun time!

[@TheNismo777]

@@JGL98 Across the pond, but I watch a twitch streamer called murda :)

[@JGL98]

@@TheNismo777 ohh ok 👌 hopefully someday u can visit yellow belly (:

[@TheNismo777]

@@JGL98 i surely will when this european situation calms down 🙂👍🏻

[@jamesa.7604]

I think you got a really good car, Mr. Wizard. Not a fan of that color because of a past history with cars that color but for the price you paid and your own mechanical skills, you got a winner. Didn't know Chrysler had killed the Hemi, that was news to me. Please keep us updated on what you discover as you drive this car. Hope you have many enjoyable miles with it!

[@damilolaakanni]

They're about to kill the Hemi. The Hemi and the new inline six engine will still be in production till 2023 at least.

[@xXcashXx3]

I would love to get a charger of that year but i dont want to deal with the valve drop issue so i rather get a 2009 or newer

[@thebiggestmac4202]

I think that these chargers are great cars, but i would rather have the face lifted model with the cool lightbar tailight

[@tomcraftdonkey2285]

@The Friendly Ghost The valve seat problem was a much bigger problem then the mds ever was. Really no harm in keeping it, and better gas mileage.

[@zephxiii]

@@thebiggestmac4202 Also ZF8

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@tomcraftdonkey2285 mds causes the valve seats to drop because of uneven cooling after you shut it off after a long highway drive of using mds.

[@ronsloan7662]

Hey Wizard, great find! You're right about the 1st gen ones being non existent in decent shape. That's a nicely optioned one as well. They're all built in Brampton, (Toronto) Ontario. I always liked those. It's going to be really nice when you're done with it. Im amazed at how minty those wheels are. Have fun with it and I'm looking forward to more videos on it.

[@brianwaldo2642]

The Wizard is not concerned about the price because he knows he’ll get that back with Hoovies next visit 😂. It’s hard to believe that a Dodge product has actually made it to 250k miles. It belongs in a museum.

[@sanangelo7926]

If it doesn’t have a Cummins in it then it should have died a long time back

[@chynacash3138]

I see these things with pretty high mileage for sale alot on FB Marketplace. My mother has a 4cyl Avenger with over 150k I'm pretty sure, and I personally had a Dodge Nitro a couple years ago that had almost 200k when I sold it and still ran fine. In my opinion just keep the oil changed regularly with quality oil and these last just as long as anything else as long as it doesn't have the 2.7L in it.

[@ianberry5562]

Scotty Kilmer has really ruined the car scene on KZbin. It’s possible for a non Japanese car to make it to very high miles. The care from owners is often more important than the brand it’s from

[@darrylmac6150]

@@ianberry5562 amen, I live in Ireland and its common place to see all sorts here with 300+ thousand miles. I just don't understand how 200 is high milage, personally every car should do that at least. A machine just needs to be maintained, as well as properly operated

[@oliverdelgado6952]

@@ianberry5562 Scotty#1

[@69Dartman]

I have my lil sisters old 06 Charger RT and it had 91500 on it when I got it. 5.7 makes 350hp and is surprisingly quick and gets hideous mpg, 12 in town. I really like it and would love to drop the bigger engine in it. The factory exhaust is actually very mellow when just motoring around and gets louder when you jump on it to remind you it's a hemi and ready to party. My factory owners manual claims 350hp for the RT, 340 for the regular hemi, I thought the Daytona had a bigger version but I haven't fully researched it. If you want to have fun turn off the traction control, if you really want to have fun turn it completely off by turning the key to start while going over 5mph and after 5 seconds it will chime and say ESP base and then it will try to kill you 🤣 Mine only has RT on the decklid, nothing on the grill but obviously some did get it. Take it out somewhere safe with everything turned off and get used to how violent it can try to swap ends on you. They make high performance rebuild kits for the Nag1 that will give you upgraded parts and clutches and a shift kit. Lil sister sold me mine for 3k too because she wanted a Subaru and my Neon had finally killed itself at 189k on it so solved my car problems. Mine has the same scrapes on the rear bumper same spot because she couldn't see behind it and hit a pole. Enjoy it, they are a blast to play with and surprisingly quick for such a heavy pig.

[@mg1822]

3K?! That's like a couple trips to the grocery store😄Also, should've bought a 4 cylinder if you wanted something quiet...It's got a Hemi...it's going to be loud.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

Millions of $ are spent in research to eliminate NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) by the OEM. Bubba-ing the exhaust is throwing away all that research..... usually making things worse...and illegal at the same time....

[@mph5896]

I have a 2013 with the HEMI. Its whisper quiet. Mufflers are like 30lb each. I am wizards age, I want piece and quiet😂

[@itsnotme07]

There are a few nice ones....you'll have to go to the Chrysler Nationals in Carlisle, PA in July to find them....they probably won't sell though. Enjoyed the beginning...probably close to Mrs. Wizard's real reaction. Haha. Didn't know about the end of the Hemi....thanks for that news.

[@slymes]

Wizard i have a question for you; i have a 2007 charger R/T (its AWD which is neat) but what ive noticed is i have a bit of a transmission seal leak. its only got 124k miles so i obviously want to take care of it, but i just want to know what the correct way to check transmission level is on these motors as there's no dipstick, theres only the little black cap that says "for dealer use only". i work in an oil shop so i can fill my transmission up for free its just a matter of knowing exactly how much there should be in it. any idea? i dont want to take it to a dodge dealer for them to check the level, id rather just fill it myself. just concerned of overfilling it of course. any info helps :)

[@thebaerittos2930]

A specific dealer dipstick measuring in mm and measuring the transmission temp then charting it using a graph are how we check it at my shop

[@dannylim3318]

The transmission oil is usually checked by the dealer using a computer with the fluid level and temperature taken into consideration. You can buy a specialty dipstick (Miller No. 9336) and do this yourself. Follow the instructions included and it should be fine, although having a scan tool to check the fluid temperature helps.

[@slymes]

@@dannylim3318 okay sounds good thanks man. i called both of my local dealers and they told me to drive it up to temp and get it between 20-30 millimetres on my dipstick so that’s what i did. i’ve already noticed less slipping, and i only put half a litre in so i guess as long as i do that every month or so i should be fine. appreciate the response :)

[@slymes]

@@thebaerittos2930 i will eventually do that at the dealer, i just wanted a decent temporary solution. called the two local dealers and they said drive it up to operating temp and check it with my dipstick, aim for around 20-30 millimetres on the stick so that’s what i did. like i told the other guy, i already noticed less slipping and it just feels a bit smoother and that’s what matters to me. i got the car about a month ago, and found some slight transmission leaks when i took it into my shop so i just wanted to make sure it was good, especially cus the previous owner probably didn’t check it over the past year lolll

[@hellkitty1014]

Very very common problem on the NAG1 trans. They actually had a recall on it back in the day. It is the seal on the bottom on the trans that is leaking.

[@michaelperson3897]

Wizard you are genuine and nice . I'm glad everything is going well for you .

[@herbiehusker1889]

The splitter guard covers the whole car.

[@cactneir]

That's because dodge can build some good engines. The hellcat. Powerful V8. back in the 2000s if you solely wanted reliability just look for the 2.4L 4 cylinder timing chain engine. Unfortunately dodge weak point is the transmission. But back in the 2000s there's not much electronics preventing you from letting the P.O.S. transmission break and replace her with 1 of your choice. However out of the 3 money pits I'm definitely team dodge. Best looking car models with most horsepower for your dollar until $100k

[@Vacationtime247]

Question for a Dodge mechanic on the 3.5 DOHC V6 that came in these era Chargers & Magnums. Violent sudden overheating. Fans do kick on. Coolant system pressure test done, holds pressure. Blue die head gasket 'sniffer' test done, passed. But let it idle or drive for a while and it'll get up to temp. But suddenly it'll start puking out it's coolant guts and the temp will spike. My guess is that there's a cracked head or block. Expands when hot to allow exhaust gasses to escape (causing overheating) but cools enough and seals for it to pass the pressure test. Anyone ever tear one of these motors apart to find the root cause? Tried some searches, but most were just suggestions and none difinitive. VT247

[@stephenhayes3765]

Try pulling a vacuum on the cooling system and see if it holds vacuum. When does it overheat? At idle, or when driving? Can you see coolant flow when running? Has the thermostat ever been changed? Is the water pump noisy? Start basic and make sure it’s the engine and not something in the system first

[@retributionaura]

Probably not very helpful because it’s nearly impossible to check, but have heard of plastic impeller failure on some Chrysler water pumps. No sign of leakage but impeller broken or stripped, so it does nothing. To verify gotta remove it so like I said, not sure it’s helpful.

[@mph5896]

@@retributionaura Yup. I have seen the plastic impellers come apart on the water pumps. I had an old Police Intrepid (2004)with the 3.5l HO the city gave up on. Car would run hot, but would cool down if you turned on the heater full blast. Checked everything externally including chem block check. pulled water pump and it was new. Pulled heads to check anyways for a head gasket and found plastic water pump impeller stuck in the input passage to the head blocking flow of Drivers side head. Thats where the thermostat sat down low.

[@budlanctot3060]

3.5L v6 is NOT DOHC. It's a SOHC. As for overheating, I've owned at least a half dozen of those in LHS's and Police Pursuit Intrepids. I have run across the stripped out impeller on a brand new MOPAR brand replacement water pump. I've also bought at auction an Intrepid with a history of overheating. That turned out to be an incorrectly replaced thermostat. The thermostat was installed BACKWARDS. The t/stat also has to be oriented a precise way, too. In all fairness to the previous mechanic, the t/stat is a real PITA to replace because of its location. These engines also are difficult to bleed-out the air which can be trapped in the heads, etc. Consult the intrepid forum for various bleeding procedures.

[@Adierit]

Might want to stick a camera down into the cylinders, they noted a new head from the Valve seat issue, if they just slapped a new head on you could have damaged cylinders hiding in there. Does it smoke any? I bought an 05 Durango for 500 bucks that had a dropped valve seat that cracked the piston in half. Had to tear it down and rebuild it.

[@repairvehicle]

I wonder how many engines and transmissions has been replaced in this car before reaching 200k miles.

[@jasonw3303]

All of them

[@scootypuffjr.]

One fewer than it needs

[@slymes]

honestly probably the original motor, transmission im not so sure of though lol

[@ozarkliving7263]

@@scootypuffjr. very true, very true

[@bullittbob2140]

I really like seeing you get cars like this one that just need some TLC and a little wrenching to make them something fun without breaking the bank. I would like to see you do a gen 4 mustang as they are getting pretty hard to find now that are not roached out....Thanks for the great content and please keep it coming!!

[@Lousasshol]

here in ca i see a lot of bruthas driving these in ghetto

[@old666guy]

Wiz - I think you are missing the air dam assembly that goes under the engine. All the performance LX platform cars have it to reduce air drag underneath. Good luck! I had 206K miles on my '06 Magnum when it dropped a valve seat. Loved the car. Replaced it with a '18 300 V6. Not the car the hemi was but suitable for an old man...

[@mikenormandy9250]

I love how Wizard keeps buying vehicles he tells us to AVOID AT ALL COSTS! - Love this channel!

[@pooolish334]

He never said to avoid the 5.7 hemi, only the 3.5 V6

[@hellkitty1014]

@@pooolish334 which is weird because the 3.5 is actually a good engine. Now the 2.7...ugh.

[@Derek8487]

He's a car wizard with a shop though.. we ain't lol.

[@mikenormandy9250]

@@pooolish334 Or just FCA/Stellantis/Dodge/Ram IN GENERAL

[@joshfowler197]

The 5.7 hemi and eventually srt 6.4 is going away but the ram 2500-5500 6.4 hemi is staying for fleet applications. Also my experience as a dodge tech, just putting converters back on might give you the desired exhaust level.

[@sccarguy8242]

The opening scene… you can absolutely tell Mrs Wizard is a teacher.

[@somebodysomeone8213]

In the past, I wasn't ever a fan of these Chargers and all...now, for the last year or two, I've driven 3 different Chargers a ton, and they've grown on me. They seem pretty reliable. I'm taking ownership of one this week- bought a 2012 Charger Pursuit V6, black with tint and very stralthy looking. Great running car. Ride and handling are solid. V6 engine in this one is extremely responsive- feels quicker than the 2011 Charger Pursuit HEMI I've driven a ton, though it definitely builds up more torque to accelerate a bit better if you put your foot in it. The V6 is shockingly quick if you wanna wake it up and punch it, and it has solid acceleration all the way up to as fast as ive driven it before (80 easy, flows smoothly up to 100ish, also), and gets 28mpg. Good cars, whether with the 3.6 V6 or 5.7 HEMI V8.

[@somebodysomeone8213]

That HEMI is a stump pulling monster, though. Put your foot into the pedal and the beast roars to life and happily pulls and pulls

[@scootypuffjr.]

That thing is hideous. I would beat it like a rental car.

[@NVRAMboi]

Like a Subaru with an automatic?

[@senseisoisauce2563]

Glad I found this video! I have the same car except the green one. Sub lime Daytona 21-1500 from 07. I can't wait to build it, I'm aiming for full internal rebuild and a whipple. I'll never let mine go ever till I die, mine isn't destroyed and is nice. I got mine at 174,000 miles 3 years ago. Shame people destroy them.