Jaws is Elwin's Worst Game Yet?!

Well, here is all of Cary's thoughts and opinions on Stern Pinball's latest release. Cary goes over how he feels about it all. Is this Keith's worst? He hopes not...
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[@rexdeanrds]

To be honest the game (In my eyes) looks fantastic. The code will inevitably come to make it fantastic. I think STERN just royally Flubbed the release. Leaked images killing hype - Poor gameplay trailer killing hype - Odd and uninspired callout recording video killing hype. The professional trailer they released was the only uptick in hype I saw on pinside because it was just about the only part of this release that was professional.

[@Mechulus]

The leak did kill it for me initially, so I hope Stern finds out who did it and fires / bans them. The damage wasn't too great though as they released the gameplay soon after the leak. I liked the gameplay, but felt too many other elements (mostly covered by Cary) didn't live up to my hopes.

[@jeffb.7403]

I like that team Elwin is attempting to make different styles of games. He’s said he does not like upper playfields, but wanted the challenge of taking it on and building a fast diverter. I appreciate that it’s not a game that copycats previous installments. That said, this one seems like their weakest.

[@juniorjr.]

I think we need to wait for the code to get better before we can really judge and evaluate Jaws and think whether it's a good table or not.

[@theroguecybersoldier2629]

Code isn't going to make what's on the playfield worth the money

[@reffob-qr8kj]

@@theroguecybersoldier2629 this exactly I don't see the excitement in this playfield. hope to be proven wrong but I don't see it. feels flat to me.

[@heppo6]

It`s a pinball machine. If you put a steel ball on a table and the floor is level, it will not roll like it does in a pinball machine. A table is great to put a dinner plate on.

[@635mobile7]

The lackluster reading "jackpot"...."super jackpot"....Hillarious!!😅

[@-Gramps]

And Dreyfuss won an Academy Award for The Goodbye Girl….hoping he worked up a bit more enthusiasm for the final call outs.

[@nightsurfride]

@@-GrampsMaybe if he was given a large plate of mashed potatoes, it would “mean something” to him.

[@acemaker92]

My favorite moment is destruction jackpot in Godzilla. Everything goes black the highlight on the ball, the countdown. The suspension and tension when the ball falls for your 1 shot at all the points

[@Roca891]

I love that too! They do a lot with the lights and the callouts to build suspense. It doesn’t always have to be mechanical.

[@matthewmorton7386]

The pinnacle of stop and go gameplay. It was fun and the first couple times but once you’ve owned a Godzilla, it gets old real quick.

[@acemaker92]

@@matthewmorton7386 you are entitled to your opinion but I’ve owned a Godzilla for years and it never gets old to me

[@veganm8918]

Personal favorite epic moment on a pinball machine is destroying the castle during Battle for the Kingdom on Medieval Madness.

[@brandonwetzel4465]

My favorite moments in Pinball are from Ghostbusters when you get the Storage Facility Multiball and when you get to "We are ready to believe" and it ask you "Are you a God?"......amazing and why I still go back to Ghostbusters to play. The Scare feature when it happens is a fun little moment when everything turns off and she screams at you lol

[@foolishheartband3096]

Without doubt Ghostbusters to one of thee best Sterns. Needs a little tweaking like lowering the outlane post is a must.

[@TampaTec]

Medieval madness castle 🏰 destruction, Jurassic Park Trex eating ball, and demogorgan mode are best moments. Little disappointed Jaws didn't eat the ball considering Elwin team made Trex work well. In the movie Jaws the shark was eating people so I figured that the shark would eat balls. Not sure why he scrap that design 🤷

[@foolishheartband3096]

Totally agree. I would say that’s the biggest disappointment at first glance.

[@jcoolstar6762]

They tried to do that but it wouldn't work

[@ed150arcade2]

The best moment in pinball for me is during multiball in Whirlwind. "Get to the cellar!" And the clock is ticking. Timeless classic imo. I'll reserve judgment on Jaws until I play it. I do think the 3D glasses deal is cool 🤟 great vid as always!

[@TheDjFac]

Best moment is that T-Rex multiball scene with the shaker and T-Rex head both in sync with the video and this magic callout « T-Rex Multibaaaaall! » My daughter loves it!!!!!

[@jasontacoma2494]

The disco ball is a moment for me on deadpool when the lights go dim and the music comes on and disco ball is rolling its awesome.

[@ogrefade]

Deadpool battle ending positive or negative felt like a moment to me. So did the “boom button”. The call outs for the boom button are great.

[@Roca891]

I LOVE pinball moments and I do miss them. My favorites: Stargate- ship pops out of the pyramid NBA Fastbreak- shooting the ball in the hoop on the backboard Pub champion- jumping rope Rocky and Bullwinkle- pulling something out of his hat Jurassic park premium- getting the ball in the T-Rex mouth Addams Family- Thing grabs the ball Munsters- Spot pops out from under the staircase F-14 Tomcat- getting the flashing lights to go off on the top (I own this one it’s still my favorite!) Twilight Zone- too may to name but I love the magma flippers

[@liwfmusic8848]

They could have done more with the shark just popping up. Maybe eating the ball as a ball lock.

[@robertmachen4364]

They supposedly tried that and the mech did not work well.

[@TheFiftyQuid]

I'm so happy that someone else noticed the same video asset being used over and over and over again. At first I thought it was a glitch in the Matrix and I was having some weird deja vu. Dreyfuss needed a hype man for those callouts.

[@josephgumma449]

Looks like a safe playfield with little chance of a ball getting trapped. I love this game. Looks like there is a lot of opportunity for future code and fun challenges with insider connect.

[@afrocious8281]

I’m a part of the minority they loved Alice coopers night mare castle. Seeing the frankstein pop up and throw balls was cool.

[@tzd1960]

Alice Cooper is great game

[@Alpha67Wolf]

My favorite moment is in Godzilla when I am playing Mechagodzilla multiball and drained to the last ball and I have 10 seconds to hit the right spinner when the dude calls out "give him a knuckle sandwich!" and you hit the spinner and on the LED you get to see silver confetti and the back box starts flashing and you know that you are Terror of Mechagodzilla qualified. That is my favorite moment. ... but wait... I still have to make it to level 4 in to play Terror of Mechagodzilla Wizard Mode. Hit the scope and collect that Power-up and then shoot thru the building!!~ I have to say that just qualifying for Terror of Mechagodzilla is the best... but... Godzilla has a lot of special moments.

[@retrocjt]

I observe this issue continually in modern mass manufactures all over the US. Whether it be automotive, user tech, advertising, toys, and of course now pinball, manufactures are SCARED TO DEATH to do anything out of their comfort zone and that they aren’t SURE will be widely accepted. Just take a look at the vehicle lineups for different car brands. There are very few if any that stand out for something radical, unique and outside the box. I feel exactly what you mean when talking about the “moments” in a machine. There is a huge difference between a “moment” and a “gimmick” and I would consider a lot of what gets packaged into modern stern games as “gimmicks.” Whether it be the bobble head mini Deadpool, the Popping up of a shark, or anything else in a modern stern, it feels like it was just put there to make the audience point their finger at it the first time they see it and go “huh that’s neat” instead of being an integral and unique part of the gameplay. Some excellent examples I can think of are the Phurbas in The Shadow, the satellite in Sega’s Goldeneye, the Cryo-Claw in Demolition Man, The Time Expander in Doctor Who, among many many others. Those features are things that always wow players, are very visually interesting, add a challenging layer to the gameplay, and ABOVE ALL are integral features to the overall game and your scoring as a whole. I think the beauty of human creativity is being able to create a spectacle or “moment,” by learning through the trial and error process. Observing over time what did work and what didn’t work, and always experimenting to try and strike gold. However, if everyone is too scared to be creative and too scared to step on anyone’s toes, then we as a society will become bland and uninspired, only mimicking what others do. Thank you Cary for your insights and opinions, and not being scared to share your critiques. These videos and your talents are an inspiration. Thank you.

[@CaryHardy]

Thanks for your kind words. When you are as big as Stern - then you need to cater to the majority EVERY time and play it safe.

[@Maleko333]

Looks like a fun game to shoot to me...looking forward to seeing the code update iterations. Also, pretty sure Keith is saying "Terrible" cos he was glancing the left outside portion of the chum bucket captive ball, when he intended to hug the metal ball guide on the left...doesn't appear to be that difficult of a shot if you do that!

[@marcosgallegos6242]

Agree - even FF Overlord captures the ball has light moments and even swings the ball around with a magnet to act like he is breaking out/attacking.

[@reffob-qr8kj]

Thank you Cary for keeping it real as always. I'm feeling the same about this one (and I love Elwin) I'm really missing Lyman Sheats today. I feel like he would have made this game something special.

[@meatpunch9144]

Damn I was just thinking about him and then read your comment and Googled him. I had no idea what had happened to him... So unfortunate...

[@thierrydelage1681]

Once you've released Godzilla, and placed the bar so high, it's difficult to top that. Same when you climb a mountain, once you've reached the top, you can only go down 😉

[@foxbodystang8587]

Who says Godzilla is the pinnacle of pinball? I had it six months and don’t miss it!

[@sverkerx]

The backglass on Capcom’s Big Bang Bar (1996) is quite first person perspective POV. Thanks Cary for your honest thoughts on the Jaws pinball machines!

[@darrellpilon3979]

As many know, Kevin Robert McNally ( Joshamee Gibbs in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise ) did an amazing job with the voice over work on JJP's POTC. Compare any of his call outs to this game with Richard Dreyfuss. Night and day.

[@RundlesRestos]

One of my favourite moments in pinball is Monster Bash with Frankenstein's Monster or having the Creech 'appear'. I completely agree with so many modern games catering towards tournament players and it just doesn't interest me.

[@ackerapple608]

Wizard of Oz produces the best moments in pinball. Melt the witch right off the bat, see if can bash the castle door open, try to get the monkey to capture your ball, and I bet you can get the house spinning but can you reveal the legs?!?!?! We are looking for a similar experience in Labyrinth 🤞

[@urapooptchi]

Jaws reminds me of Black Rose but that may be going a little far since I saw a lot of Black Rose pinball parted out and crushed. Yet to be seen if Jaws is on the level of crushable but seems a lot of people done passed. judgement...

[@matthewpilla4323]

CARY! I can't believe the moving "fin" target! THAT should be shaped like a FIN! Not a sticker on a target! I like the PRO shark better then the shark under boat mech. BUT I LOVE ELWIN, so staying positive. Hope to own a PRO one day.

[@stevendesmond2685]

Not so much a moment but more games really need magna save outlanes on both sides that can be earned through playing.

[@svenop]

I played the premium and it was fun to play. Need more time to determine if it is a buy. But the shots were fluid and fun. The upper play field would drain immediately for me though. There was an easy extra ball award to shoot in the video mode which was cool. Being able to catch the ball on the middle right flipper was new for me and a nice opportunity to stop and scan the playfield for what to work on next

[@MikeGervasi]

Whether I like a theme or game layout the pricetag makes all of them a "no". Stern and JJP really made pinball collecting a rich man's hobby. When I started buying they were $1500-$2500. $8k to $10k is larceny considering how much the games lack in comparison. They used to complain about the DMD on Terminator taking away from PF gameplay..now it's far worse.

[@robertisrael338]

Those call-outs are f*cking awful. This game could have been soooooo much better. The pro is absolutely ridiculous 🙄

[@afattori316]

But the upper playfield is a joke and bash Bruce to start a mode is lame also.

[@robertisrael338]

@afattori316 yeah I would have like to have seen the Orca integrated into the game better. Very underwhelming game, especially with all the hype they created.

[@robertisrael338]

@afattori316 Bruce should be a boss fight thing not a instant bash to start modes.

[@MarkP733]

I come here for the most honest opinion in pinball and stay to be reminded to top up my GFuel.

[@ryanp8021]

Dreyfuss should take a lesson from Ernie Hudson on recording callouts. His “SUPER TRIPLE JACKPOTTTT!!!!” in Ghostbusters has me smiling every time. I think all your concerns are fair but I’m going to wait to pass judgement. When Bond came out, the code was bare and the theme did nothing for me. Now it’s one of my favorite Sterns. It just took deeper code and the game “clicking” with me. As for best pinball moments…it is hard to describe how incredible The Addams Family multiball “its showtime!!!” moment was when the game first appeared in arcades. Just incredible. Its been matched and surpassed since but that was an iconic moment for a lot of players. In newer games, if I was going to show a non pinball player a cool moment, it would be the Godzilla building collapsing for multiball. I also enjoy when Stranger Things Premium goes to the Upside Down with the UV lighting etc at my local arcade.

[@VforVideographer]

Not sure if it’s truly first person, but the backglass on high speed always made me feel like I was part of a ride-along. 😄 Ghostbusters storage facility multiball prob my fav moment. All lights turn off except red flashers, the danger alarm starts ringing, and the firehouse lights up on the playfield, simulating that movie moment so well.

[@yeahyeahyeah489]

TMNT premium gets a lot of wows from my guests when they see for the first time the balls come out of the van and spin on the pizza!

[@MrHOOCHOO77]

Regarding "Moments", you can't go past Stern's Star Wars Premium/LE and its Hyper Loop shot, especially when the shot is to destroy the Death Star. That shot is on another level, also helps if you're an OT SW fan, I have yet to experience something that beats it.

[@davidcohn7531]

I owned a Bally 8 Ball machine. Called it the drain game and it had no moments got rid of it 25 years ago for 500 bucks in great condition. I know they are thousands today but I still do not regret selling it. Had a the Williams Black Knight moments with the Magna-Save and multi-ball got rid of it 25 years ago when I rolled it over. I regret that one because I could buy bigger displays today. Own the Game of Thrones premium for 7 years now. Moments everywhere, Winter, Hand of the King. Super Jackpots. Still have not got to the Iron Throne after 7 years no interest in getting rid of it. I have the Jurassic Park Premium with the expensive over priced topper and I agree it is the T-Rex throwing the ball is the moment. To me the game flow, theme, and moments are what prompt be to buy or like a game. Thank God for the Pinball Expo too. I would never buy a machine without playing and seeing it in person.

[@ericmiller3708]

Tournament players aside; I think there are two other types of pinball machine players out there. The first is the individual who plays for the toys, gimmicks, and the like. The other are those who are captivated by the theme. I'm one of those players who enjoys pinball for the theme, artwork, and sound effects. An example is Bally's Embryon. There are no super exciting "moments," if you will. However, it's the bizarre sci-fi theme that captivates the player and brings them into that world.

[@HAUB]

Thx for your opinion. Most points I agree. Design,.... even if I personally like the "cool" callouts. And of course it will be a good shooter. But: I personally like the way they present shark in the Premium and LE. For just this short time (just like in the movie) we are able to see shark. For me that makes it a "Moment".

[@CaryHardy]

Yea, but as of right now - it's a very basic "moment". Coding still needs some work to make that hit to the shark feel like it does more. Better light effects or something.

[@RetroRalph]

I totally get the moment experiance. I get giddy every single time I destroy the building and get multiball on Godzilla. Then the blue oyster cult music starts and it’s freaking exciting every time!

[@jschlarb]

Cactus Canyon’s translite has a first-person perspective. Cool to see it here on the Premium.

[@OTTOgraphd]

Jaws looks decent but, yeah, looking forward to casual player vids. I'm an Elwin fan and hope to own Godzilla one day. Fav Pin Moment: Williams 'High Speed' multiball w/ rotating beacon ... and jackpot. * drops mic *

[@MrVideo814]

Excellent news everyone. We were wrong. I really was looking forward to a Jaws pinball theme. However, I cancelled my Jaws LE order after seeing the initial videos. Thankfully, I decided I had to give it a chance and reordered it. I just got it yesterday and am happy to say IT IS AMAZING! Shots are fantastic and updated code is awesome. The LE cabinet is spectacular and upper playfield is worth it. I enjoy Cary's videos but realized on the second one that he was not a Jaws fan. I don't care how great or lousy a pin is, if you're not a fan of the theme in the first place it will never stand a chance.

[@psteady6726]

The ringmaster on CV is a great moment- even Gilligans has a moment with the lava seltza volcano shot. Jaws is a bit meh after watching the stream- might be below AIQ

[@foxbodystang8587]

Medieval madness - castle destroyed TAF - thing and multi ball SHOWTIME! Stranger things - bashing the dermagorgon and the upside down. These are all moments

[@gwildor8543]

No interest for me due to the theme, but will definitely play on location. Happy for everyone whose dream theme is Jaws. Now bring on mine!

[@toedrag-release]

Ok so the dialogue was sub par but the table looks great alot of nice shots a very useful side flipper. I like it I'm excited to play it

[@JVSOUSAE]

I like the moving drop target fin, is it a first? Kind of wish it was in the shape of fin instead of a decal. Perhaps the target plastic and metal back support can be trimmed.

[@jpres11]

Love that idea.

[@joshasbury5239]

Johnny Mnemonic's translight artwork is first person, so Jaws wasn't the first to do it 13:53

[@jeffblackattack]

TMNT had a moment with the spinning pizza multiball, but that's about all it had

[@jpres11]

Ha been waiting for this video! Agree with your points. Game looks fun, but not enough for me to buy it currently. Theres just something about the back left shots that seem underwhelming especially after shooting the spinner.

[@thomask2416]

Moments from games i own/owned. Pinbot eyeball locks, tmnt pizza magnet, jp trex mech.

[@jimspagg5496]

I figure they thought it the gave Dreyfuss direction he might get up and tell them to f off and walk lol.

[@CaryHardy]

at his age and experience, probably. lol

[@dsarg9582]

Remember the Godzilla stream when he barely talked and walked off like a G at the end?…..

[@lobo2k]

And best moment i think lotr capturing the ball in midair. Magic and still crazy

[@kevinpinball]

The Brian Allen Cactus Canyon back glass is from a first person point of view. The guns are the players hands. Right?

[@Ikthog]

Godzilla Premium definitely has plenty of moments - but I agree that they need to make the shark a lot more of a big deal in the actual gameplay, as you don't see it most of the time in Jaws Premium. I personally think the Shark Hunter minigame is a fun addition and something I'd like to see more of (I realize the "serious" pinball players want nothing that takes you out of constant pinball flow, but I like little gimmicks like this). Honestly my biggest gripe with Sterns (and Jaws is no exception) is the lazy design of the LCD video elements - compared to Jersey Jack and some others, who put a lot of thought and care into the video elements, Stern is often just stringing together video clips with simple type overlays and calling it done. That's definitely most of what Jaws has so far.

[@lamontcranston1003]

I appreciate you giving your honest opinion. Subbed.

[@afattori316]

Spooky is definitely improving on each release. Huge jaws fan but not impressed at all. Waiting for Loony Tunes gameplay reveal and play on location before I make a decision on it. Will do the same for jaws, but pro seems the way to go used.

[@browe]

Looks like Pulp Fiction might be a new pin with several great under-the-glass moments. Cannot wait to try it!

[@Chong-pi6wo]

Moment from a classic for me, thing in Adam’s family taking the ball away. I thought there was a chance they were gonna have that but with jaws and that would have sold me. Game looks better than I thought it would, but truth be told I just can’t buy every pinball machine that comes out…

[@jth1670]

100% agree with your thoughts. Not interested in the theme in the first place. Never really liked those movies. Then pictures came out and I was like...not again. Like Godzilla(which I think is just Ok), it has a completely empty center of the playfield. I'm not a fan of those tables with shots only on the sides and the back. That's a reason why Godzilla is not a 1st tier game for me. At least, the shot wrapping around the magnet is fantastic. On Jaws, didn't see a shot that as a kinetic little something. The right mini flipper is interresting cause you can hold the ball and shot the targets. But, another old school thing. Drop targets that hide a RUBBER band. Come on, so old school. Please use drops to hide a path, a lock, a vuk, etc...Then you can clearly see all the thoughts going into points strategy. Like you said, it's more for tournament or strategy players. I prefer games with more linear path towards the end and where points can be a secondary objective. JP is the best for this in my opinion from KE. Here are my thoughts, but I know I'm in the minority not liking that much Godzilla. So I may be wrong about jaws and I not played it obviously.

[@svenop]

Waiting to see your thoughts after the full gameplay live stream

[@jasonschmidt1278]

So whiney

[@lennyleonard4193]

It reminds me of Monster bash, but MB is better with real sculpts. Drac track…Frankie bash

[@Mechulus]

When I first saw it, I thought it was a Multimorphic. There's very little in the bottom 2/3 of the machine. Jaws doesn't eat the ball?!? And this from the guys that made a T-Rex eat and thrash a ball around before spitting it out. They've done worse (I'm looking at you, Led Zep), but with this IP they could have done so much better. Watching the gameplay, I got the impression that it was slowed down too much due to all the trapping shots and video modes. Disappointing, but I will still play it in the wild. I want to be wrong. Stranger Things grew on me, so there's hope.

[@k-chilla3015]

Good video! Turtles has moments 😉

[@tntamusements]

It may be a big hit...who knows???

[@CaryHardy]

Only time will tell!

[@kylecallis77]

Best artwork I seen on a stern since franchi was there.Rush was bad but this totally was done well great comeback.

[@0osha]

Oh and it gets better (or worse). Ask around about the code being locked until a certain time & date.

[@Gnomesain]

Pretty funny to complain about an overused clip from a 10 minute clip in software version "not released anywhere yet". So weird that people seem to want a game based on Jaws, a 1975 slow burn thriller, to somehow play like it's a marvel explosion fest. It's gonna be hella fun, and might even have different pacing than the 8 million games that alrrady exist. If you think this doesnt play enough like old balley williams, go play those.

[@PubeStache]

When are you going to start reviewing pinball machines on youtube?

[@Gnomesain]

@PubeStache good point, until I do the same thing I'm commenting on I shouldn't comment on... wait a second I think I stumbled on an irony loop. Carey is fine dude, he's a big boy and can take some teasing. So can Elwin. So can I. Personalky I think I'm gonna love Jaws, and if I don't, watch for my KZbin show reviewing KZbin commenter in quarter 4, 2024!!!

[@-COZ]

I might get a pro for location. Need to play it first and see how I like it

[@panthercitypinball]

Agree with your take here Cary. I had a spot for a first run premium and let it go after seeing the gameplay video. Overall the game just feels meh to me. The shots are great I'm sure and it will play well but it just didn't grab me or wow me in any way. Jaws to me is about the unknown and suspense. I didn't get any sense of suspense in this game. The shark pops up from the boat and just sits there until you bash it. I wanted times where the shark attacks from no where and there's a jump scare moment or at least have the shark on some sort of timer where it doesn't just sit there like a trained dolphin waiting for you to bash it. Seems like a step back from Godzilla to me for sure. I will be watching the gameplay stream this week and reserve the right to change my mind but for now that's where I'm at.

[@juniorjr.]

Jaws does seem like a promising game, considering Keith Elwin designed it but I think we need to wait for the code to catch up before we can really judge the game as it is. Also it feels more like a homeowner's game rather than a location game considering how difficult it's gonna be.

[@robertisrael338]

Code can't fix the mechs and physical pieces that are there

[@juniorjr.]

Unless the third party mods have a way around that.

[@robertisrael338]

@juniorjr. true but at $terns prices it's absolutely ridiculous you have to fix/finish the game for them with mods. Look at other companies in the price range or even lower. Look at TCM and Looney Tunes, custom sculpts and toys. The Jaws game just kinda looks cheap im my opinion compared to others. Labyrinth is loaded and has so much for the money. If their prices for these games were lower than yes I'd be fine with buying one and modding it. As it stands though it's asinine.

[@glennhabas776]

“The power of the sun in the palm of your hand!!” Now that’s a moment! The butt hurt fan boys in the comments are cracking me up! As a tournament player I see your point. However, there are certainly many of us who also appreciate those moments. The problem is that moment, seen 1000 times, loses it’s impact, and then you’re just waiting 10 seconds for the damn building to come down. 😂. Great stuff as always. We shall see!

[@shabazz18]

Bad theme, bad layout, but hey... OMFG ELWIN IS THE BEST. No. This makes back to back turds (Bond 60)

[@richm.7373]

Your reaction to this gameplay video is valid. Theres nothing wowing in this game. No physical ball lock for mult ball!!!??? What??? Maybe it’s just me but I think virtual ball locks suck. Physical ball locks are such an easy way to make a moment in any pinball game. They missed out on that opportunity here because there are NO other wow moments in this game. I think a ball lock tied into a video with the shark pulling down the yellow buoys could’ve easily been a good pinball moment. Sigh…. I’m sure Jaws will be fun to play but there’s no real pinball magic in this game or any real wow moments. Very underwhelming release for the Elwin team. Very disappointing.

[@Srt8Adam]

I’ve never seen jaws but I love me some waterworld so excited to play it!

[@aaronhouser3711]

The old spice clip was my main takeaway. Love to play but not own.

[@rexdeanrds]

Bounty ... Super.. Jackpot ...

[@SteveRogers-o8v]

The start of the briefcase multiball in Pulp Fiction is a great moment

[@erico201]

I think Johnny Mnemonic would be considered to have 1st person POV backbox artwork as well…maybe??

[@CaryHardy]

oh nice! Forgot about that one.

[@lobo2k]

100% with you Cary. Glad i can keep my money. Might be ok dunno. Nothing has wowed me and lol that dreyfuss video is hilarious

[@jhendrix23]

With the cost of everything now of days, you really need a theme that talks to you and keeps you coming back. Im a big fan for audio and call outs. Yes, the flo of the game as well. As of now, this game doesn't do it for me. If it speaks to you and this is your theme, go get it... it's your money, you work for. Spend it, how you like.

[@heppo6]

I saw the callout recording session earlier. When I did, I was wondering if it was just dry humor, because the zero interest in making the callouts was actually funny. If that was it, it is NOT funny, just awful. I have been waiting so long for Keiths next game. When it was confirmed to be Jaws, I felt just sad. I hoped that awful theme was put on some other designer. So far, the machine is a dissapointment, but hopefully it is fun to play. Iron Maiden and Godzilla are my favourite machines. Next time make something fun with endless possibilities please. Example: Futurama or Animal House.

[@dangerdonk6670]

I feel like this is largely the opinion of many on pinside as well. Something is off with this pin, nobody has quiet yet figured out exactly what it is.. but we all feel it.

[@jasontacoma2494]

I think a LOT of it is the shark is so underwhelming it pops out you bash it and it goes back in. The entire pin in based around "JAWS" and the shark on the pin feels wasted.

[@mtlarsen1125]

Interesting video, it appears it has started quite a discussion, which is likely what you were aiming for. I thought maybe we would see a reduction in these type of videos, since there shouldn't need to be a rush to judge as Jaws will be readily available for whoever wants to purchase one. I'm personally glad we are past the buy sight unseen or miss out phase of the hobby. This type of video seems to be all we get for new releases, as most content creators tend to lose interest shortly after launch. Not a judgement and it's likely more of a reflection of the viewers than the content creators themselves.

[@marshallriggs5692]

The three assets of this game r the yellow barrels,Orca and JAWS it seems like they were after thoughts 3D glasses REALLY?

[@ToyStoryFan5000]

Showtime TAF best moment

[@ParkerHill1]

I agree, it doesn't look like his best.

[@thebrokebrick7755]

Also not overly excited. Will play on location. No desire to own at home at the moment. Glad to be looking elsewhere. Game seems forced. And it's a suspense thriller theme... shouldn't it build? It gave Elwin Jaws under the boat in about 20 seconds...

[@andrewlee88]

PREEECH!!! Thirsty pinsiders are going to jump down your throat on this...

[@CaryHardy]

Bring it. I got a deep throat....wait.

[@andrewlee88]

​@CaryHardy sounds like you've said that before... lol! but i agree with your review completely. The shots will feelng great but man.. those call outs... these are bad as hearing whats in a jjp game. These actors are spending way too much time infront of slot machines as their 'gaming' reference material. ...

[@paulmurphy4925]

Nothing on the 3d glasses?..... yukkkkk

[@robertisrael338]

So Stern is just a Tournament players company now basically.

[@afattori316]

Pretty much. Shots look tight also

[@reffob-qr8kj]

My feelings exactly.

[@robertisrael338]

Look how much real-estate Grogu took up in Mando and did absolutely nothing. Just a waste. With stern its all about get it build cheap and fast and get it out the door for the most profit.

[@jUSTsOMEwIZARD]

Wahhhhhhhhhhh 😂

[@snextime]

I’m so glad your calling it a machine. There is a table discussion going on now.

[@CaryHardy]

don't.....just don't....lol

[@darinswift490]

Oh snap!

[@d-party4]

Moment for me: Elvira HOH when beating Gappa Angry. Game went nuts! Didn’t expect that

[@darinswift490]

So not this years Godzilla huh…..?

[@CaryHardy]

Might be awesome. We shall see. Just not feeling it right now.