Case 193: Suesan Knorr & Sheila Sanders

[@fineknots2354]

Even though I'm familiar with the majority of the cases presented on this channel, the way the stories are told makes it feel like I'm listening for the very first time. Great work!

[@OldSkullInn]

Casefiles is awesome, another solid narrator, though he is not solely cold case, and has a lot of things for people who are fans of the strange, dark, and mysterious, is MrBallen416. I'm particularly fond of the Places you shouldn't go and people who went anyway, playlist. Some are tragic, some. . . well, if you walk past maintained signs warning of a 98% kill rate ahead. . . that's on you, and I'm gonna laugh.

[@Frenchblue8]

@@OldSkullInn case files is awesome, but you haven't lived until you have experienced KZbin channel Lazy Masquerade. Don't let the great big scary avatar put you off, but on the other hand, don't go to the Face reveal video which only happened a couple of months ago, after 6 years! Go to lazy's playlist and pick your favorite sub genre~just as an initial warm up~ and let me know what you think, if you happen to think of it. 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@OldSkullInn]

@@Frenchblue8 Lazy is great, but has more paranormal than I want, so I don't watch as often as I did.

[@JohnGaltShadow]

@@Frenchblue8Lazy Masquerade is one of my favorites!

[@AMYV3]

Thank you. Although i have heard of this case many times. You seem to find new details that I’ve never heard before and the way you tell us the story is just incredible. Thank you Much love ♥️♥️🇨🇦

[@rkh7904]

What a horrifying life those poor children were subjected to.I was so appalled the boys were found culpable when they did what they did under duress and fear of being the next to die.

[@hueparis1163]

This channel should have at least a million subscribers. So good.

[@evdaribarovski5698]

Just want to add this story was narrated with compassion and empathy being such a difficult story to tell. Researchers amazing and I commend you. Wonderful team as always at Case File I too am surprised that by now you should have well over one million subscribers. You are a very good and unique podcast. I have listened to the majority of the cases presented. Thankyou

[@loriepaix6391]

Mr. Knorr was vocal at trial that Teresa had destroyed his children, but he also failed them. His job as a father was to protect them, but he was absent. Everyone failed the children, from their parents to the police and authorities to the schools. Sadly, it still happens today.

[@InfiniteTranscendence]

It is truly a shame how much of this happens today. It often takes a failure on many to act, but nowadays people do tend to take abuse a bit more seriously. I remember growing up that "beating" your kids with whatever objects you had lying around was considered good. Nowadays that trend seems to be changing. Robert wanted to stay in contact with his kids, but Theresa wouldn't let him. She kept moving, removed the phone from the walls, and let nobody inside of the home. She should have never been let off for the murder of her first husband; unfortunately the jury saw her a sweet and innocent woman incapable of doing that. Furthermore she was a mother and they are reluctant to punish mothers and put them in jail, which led to her having more kids that she ended up murdering. She was a very sick and abusive woman. Unfortunately the youngest daughter said to them they thought this was normal and not abuse for quite some time so when the authorities stepped in (after Suesan ran away) they said they weren't abused. Also the mother was in the room which made them scared to tell the truth. Just a sad story all around.

[@Flanneryschickens]

It's also a shame how the one daughter escaped and was put into foster care, begged not to be sent back to her abusive home life, and was sent back to be murdered

[@geesmash5717]

I have listened to every single episode of Case file and this case chills me to the core for the first time. Thanks Case File! Stay safe everyone.

[@willynilly2545]

The cannibal one in Germany got to me

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

The worst mother ive ever heard of without doubt

[@kimberini6465]

What a horrific life for these children!! Poor Suesan was abused, made to sell herself, shot, put thru surgery, led to infection, then sepsis, liver failure, renal failure, and then burned to death and left in a pit like garbage! At least she was barely conscious by the end. Sheila's treatment was not much better. Children are one of God's greatest gifts. I can't imagine the ability to do anything even close to these things. May they be at peace now and feel the love from God that they never got to feel from their mother.

[@SusanSez1]

My mom was a maniac. Very dysfunctional and mean. But, my God, this horrible woman takes the award. Shocking. Those poor kids.

[@LaserPeckford]

Excellent job! Don’t change anything! 🇨🇦

[@Keirnoth]

I'm a squeamish person and this was tough to listen to, but this is reality, and my squeamishness was offset by the boiling rage I had for this Teresa monster. She was the devil, not her daughter.

[@victoriapschen]

I feel bad for laughing at the ' board of education'

[@donnablack6280]

Having a narcissistic violent alcoholic mother myself, I can relate to this story. But you just shook me about the ice. I'd forgotten that. Putting ice on it to bring down the injuries before another school day.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

I hope you're okay. I dont know what to say but I wish you all good things in life.

[@donnablack6280]

Thank you. I finally did it. In May I emailed her to contradict her opinion. I was 15 when she last physically assaulted me, but the verbal belittling has been ongoing. She hasn't spoken to me since I stood up for myself.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

@@donnablack6280 Good for you. We dont need toxic people, who ever they may be, in our lifes. Good luck and Godspeed on your journey through life.

[@andreamarshall911]

@@donnablack6280 holy cow sweetie my mom physically assaulted me last at 15 and booted me out of the house shortly after. I think at 15 we were finally big enough and had just enough teenage angst to fight back. Your comment about the ice brought back some memories of my own even though I haven't listened to the story yet. Ice, makeup, long sleeves, turtle neck on a warm day, thick banded watch, a bandaid and backup bandaid, getting the excuse ready so people won't think you're a terrible person who has rebuffed righteous punishment from authority or whatever. My birthday was the same day as this podcast release and I'm in my late 40s, still insecure, my spirit still wobbly, and I'm eeking out an existence just like anyone else. We are strong, we are amazing, and the love we give to people has to be well earned but the truest they'll ever experience. Much love to you and yours ❤

[@mlwsmp]

@@andreamarshall911 Yep. Life is hard. It doesn't ever get easier. I experienced a very traumatic event just last week. The processing never stops. It's kill or be killed by our own tortured thoughts. I have to constantly push away the thoughts that make me want to die and just focus on the feelings. It hurts, it hurts like hell, but I have to feel it, sober and deal with it. It's so easy to get sucked in to these thoughts that are programmed to protect at all cost even when the cost is life threatening. Trauma sucks. The impacts are lasting, but we march on with love. I never want to impart those feelings onto anyone else, ever. I'm in my early 40's and I struggle every day to stay mentally healthy.

[@gaylemc2692]

Your research is superb. Having lived in the area at the time I never knew such details. Terry was such a brave and resilient young lady. I hope she is doing well today.

[@KristinaJoyManaysay]

She died in 2011

[@howdareyouexist]

she died in 2011

[@gaylemc2692]

@@KristinaJoyManaysay I'm sorry to hear that. T y

[@lisas8244]

I have seen documentaries on this case before but never in such detail. This is absolutely insane! Just when I think it can't get more gruesome it actually does. Teresa was like the daughter of Satan. No human should be tortured and put through what poor Suesan was made to endure by anyone, least of all her own mother!!

[@nreynoldspaint2011]

What incredible story telling of this terrifying case. A true monster who deserves to live in prison, in pure misery getting the same treatment she did her poor innocent children. I live just outside Sacramento and I am shocked at this case, as well as the multiple other cases in this area you have also covered because I have not heard of any of them. I am beyond hooked on this channel. I can't wait to see what case is next up! One of my favorite channels for sure.

[@leeleemaster8517]

Casefile your voice is additive ❤

[@theoriginal7264]

Yes! This isn't a very known case! Thank you for doing this!

[@LACajuninNC1]

Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack covered the Knorr case, too. They had Terry on as an interviewee. This is the saddest case I have ever heard of. I hope and pray those kids, now adults can work through the he'll their mom put them through all those years. If I remember correctly, Terry saw her mom (before she was imprisoned). It didn't go well

[@Megatron113]

Reminds me of Sylvia Likens

[@katrinacarter2019]

Brave Terry was the one that kept speaking out ,it went well her mums where she should be

[@cathybassett6432]

Excellent weaving of the story right from the start. Thanks.

[@lousmith2529]

So many things. Sounds similar to I am David life story. How a mother can pick out one child, and then have the others assist or witness. Beyond evil.

[@lindc1070]

Some people should not have kids

[@willhanan5349]

Near the end of the podcast it is mentioned there was a memorial for Suesan Knorr near Truckee. I live near there and can't find this memorial. Locals don't know what I'm taking about. Does anybody have any suggestions?

[@katherine9109]

I thought they meant a memorial was held for Suesan - like, some kind of gathering. but, I wasn't listening that closely.

[@Frenchblue8]

All of a sudden the names~~ which had started to sound familiar~ all clicked in

[@LACajuninNC1]

As soon as he read the 1st 2 sentences, I knew what case he was talking about

[@IphieTheSlickBoss]

So all the children couldn't go to the authorities and have their mother arrested? But they were all going out almost daily. This is shocking!

[@cindyshirreffs2099]

Listened to most of these so now I play Casefile roulette, skim through real,fast and click on one

[@amandasiddle6571]

Perfect timing as usual cf and a nice long episode what more could a girl ask for ♥️

[@danrobinson572]

Great way to start a Saturday morning here in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania in America 🇺🇸

[@Frenchblue8]

Good afternoon, this time, Dan 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@danrobinson572]

@@Frenchblue8 same to you

[@danrobinson572]

@@Frenchblue8 did not hear from you yesterday morning when the episode came on ?

[@rileytherandom]

yes these ads are affecting my mental health

[@jerrymarshall2095]

The whole world and the psychos running it have most in a state of psychosis.I can bare these ads

[@katherine9109]

and poor Terry died young, too... what has happened with the boys?

[@katrinacarter2019]

Oh really what age and from what caused her death ,how sad

[@pearlkenna5745]

Thanks 😊

[@bluechurch776]

This is the worst case of child abuse I've ever heard. She was jealous of her girls, so she killed them. She is a demon on earth.

[@Ирина-ш1й7й]

I really enjoy your podcasts! Thank you for your work!

[@NinjaStroll]

Even though those brothers got a reduced sentence for being accessories of murder and being brainwashed, it still doesnt excuse why they never let anyone know. You would think once they moved out they had the common decency to let authorities know about their sisters abuse and murder. They can act like victims but were part of the abuse and murder too

[@redbeki]

This case is too horrific to listen all the way through.

[@crone-dr2re]

The introduction screech... 🙀

[@nancychisholm5399]

Perfect timing....first view (according to the notification) and the bodum of coffee ready to go. Thank you Casefile and team!

[@ktcooki276]

You need marital vows with that Bodum of yours, Nanc'!😆

[@nancychisholm5399]

@@ktcooki276 it is truly a perfect pairing LOL

[@AMYV3]

Let’s 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 guys

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Let's go Brandon

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Half way in, Jesus Christ! Theresa surly brought hell to her children. The fury I feel listening to this is nameless. >:(

[@jennklein1917]

Jennifer watched this video 😮

[@KristinShoots]

it’s NEVER EVER EVER a mannequin 😉

[@KaitlinLuksa]

Teresa's treatment of her children is horrific, but I'll admit I did chuckle a bit at "the board of education."

[@cdrwin]

Omg the horror 👽

[@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt]

Great commercial you did for daily harvest !

[@knarkstyx]

just in time for bed time!!

[@susanwright186]

😢

[@brendajstevens3719]

👏👏👏

[@hemanthasumathipala463]

Theresa may be crazy but others ?

[@shirleythompson2068]

🥺💜💛💜💛💜🕊🕊

[@Aozziegamer99]

I really enjoy your podcasts. Just one minor point would you please use the English pronunciation of the word route. I realise that you have an American audience that you need to appeal to. However I’ve never heard an Australian pronounce the word route as rout. Thank you.

[@AMYV3]

I always think of them as being the same either or lol. ☺️🇨🇦

[@bbjjbb61]

Really? Lol

[@Aozziegamer99]

It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

[@ktcooki276]

Nah, deffo route!🇬🇧

[@Aozziegamer99]

@@ktcooki276 Ha ha. Long live the Commonwealth.

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Well genetics are much more important than upbringing so I'm not surprised that her brother is horrible as well (I'm talking about the mother)

[@littleredsubmarine]

Can we get a rest from crimes against children, please? 🙂

[@MrHandoverfist]

really rather depressing...

[@3_up_moon]

It is a sad reality that women and children are weaker and often victims because of this.

[@donnablack6280]

You should listen to more of this story about narcissistic mothers, of which my mother is one.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

@@donnablack6280 I'm with you Donna. We must never turn our backs on children suffering in thehands of narcissistic abusive mothers.

[@moinmoin1293]

I like these kind of chases the most, because it gets you the most insight into human cruelty in my opinion.

[@Loralanthalas]

Clifford is/was absolutely a horrible human being.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Bill and Bob as useless as "Bill och Bull" but worse.

[@geteffedcretins]

Why does the hosts voice sound so robotic and oddly scripted compared to the first 109 episodes? Like he enunciates really weirdly.

[@jacqui7672]

Gonna listen to some of the old ones and compare.

[@jacqui7672]

Your right. Perhaps it is a different narrator?

[@romystumpy1197]

I thjnk because he naturally speaks quickly,like in his sponsors sections,and I don't quite pick up what hes saying,I prefer his slower pace.

[@howdareyouexist]

theresa is a strong independent woman that all girls should look up to

[@LACajuninNC1]

You mean the daughter, Terry right?

[@VladRadu-tq1pg]

terry i hope...otherwise you re just a corny edgelord

[@MrHandoverfist]

come on, I like your videos, but this stuff is just kinda gross....animal and or 😬🙄😒children are just too much...lame and horrifying over interesting or fascinating...😑

[@dr.claudiafinch1088]

You didn't have to listen or comment you know. He's not doing it for the thrills or the gore either. He's stating it in a matter of fact tone so as to avoid that and to show respect for the victims and their families.

[@elle9543]

@@dr.claudiafinch1088 Moreover, children are more vulnerable being younger, smaller, weaker. I listen to Casefile to try and understand crime. That's my motivation. The more stories, the better But, then, I wanted to be the next Clarice Starling...

[@awkwardautistic]

Maybe you shouldn't listen to true crime.

[@nataloves]

lmao go back to watching Scooby-Doo, this is the real world

[@Keirnoth]

He WARNED you at the beginning of this broadcast.